Umineko no Naku Koro ni Episode 10 Discussion

Keykeyoh said:
Bea's laugh about 7 min in sounded really bad >.>

Zekses said:
Compared to the game Beato in the anime is ugly and has no charm (

Monad said:


Ha ha! Yeah, in the VN she really looks like a witch. Ugly as hell. Not that the others look very good.

PsychFreak said:


Are you kidding me? This was slowest paced episode so far of the season. If you look at the first few episodes, now that's what you call rushed.

The preview looks good and it looks like they'll leave some important stuff in next episode, but I still have a feeling it's going to be rushed into the ground. Guess we'll just have to see how they handle it :/

Denwa said:

say that to my face and not online and see what happens
Not sure if you're trolling..

MarthX said:
Keep in mind that "Resurrection" is really short. It could be done in a minute or less.

Monad said:




And yes she is ugly in the VN. If that's not ugly then wtf is it?

Frostwake said:
Thats my problem too, its pretty obvious magic exists at this point, and that makes the show worthless

I mean, wasnt the whole fun seeing Battler try to prove that everything happened without magic? Well if magic exists he already lost and I dont see the point of the anime at all

Some witch kills a bunch of people over and over with random magic, weeee

Unless they pull an higurashi and explain the magic as delusions of people -.- maybe theres also a secret virus here and people start seeing golden butterflies after lvl 5 rofl

noteDhero said:
Nope, because I'm at the point where I'm looking at it from both sides since I'm not satisfied with the presentation of magic in the show, and I yet still believe that magic was the cause of the initial murders. As you can see from my posts in this episode and I think maybe the last two, I've been more concerned about what is said regarding where people are and what they are and aren't saying.

To me, the whole show is over-wrought and trying too hard to be cerebral with the "turning the chessboard around," blurry, undefined, inconsistent narration, meta-world, Schroedinger's cat and other thought experiments while doing a terrible job at the most important things like 3 dimensional characters, coherence, and focus.

DeathfireD said:


I have to agree. I came into this with an open opinion knowing that there would be both mystery and "magic". I knew from people's reviews of the VN that I would end up falling into one of two category's....or at least I thought I would. Up to this point I've been trying to see things from both sides, more so from the non-magic side since the majority of the VN fans are for magic and I just wanna be different from them ;P, but right now both seem to be doing a piss poor job of what they where intended to do. The "magic" just isn't attention grabbing or believable and is tossed in as a cheap way of trying to kill what little mystery there is. The mystery is almost moot, every time we're in a position where we should have to "think", magic gets tossed in making the mystery seem almost non existent or just plain laughable. As of right now I'm still pretty much in the middle and feel this show is doing a horrible job of getting me to truly choose a side. I'd also like to see other situations that don't require a locked room, flying butterfly's, or Battler just saying "ahhh I'll never accept you ahhhh". I'm pretty sure if he solved one locked room riddle he would probably win the game since it seems that's all Beo~ has going for her right now.

4saken_762 said:

I think the VN players were saying too much to make you misunderstand something. Yes, there are two sides: anti-fantasy and anti-mystery, but there is no choosing here. I'm sure that noone will truly choose the anti-mystery, because the magic scenes may be fun to watch, but it'll be ridiculous if something like that actually happen.

Second, if you think that Umineko is something that should encourage you to solve the mysteries, you are wrong. It is totally opposite. It seems that Ryuukishi purposely tries to discourage the his fans to do that. After all, Umineko is a challenge from him to them, if they give up, that'll be his victory.

And you underestimated Beato too much, this is just the beginning. There'll be non "closed room" mysteries later, and they are the hardest to solve, to the point it seems impossible for human to commit the murders.

Valandis said:
Lambdadelta is like that with Houjo Satoko?

mangastar said:

And in the VN Beatrice really told Battler that he was incompetent in red letters? But wouldn't that be an opinion, and therefor making everything else she says in red questionable?

Zekses said:
Red is always truth but only to a word. You may imply quite a lot more things than really happened from those red truth.

Example : The chapel can`t be locked without the key.

Reads : You have to insert the key into the lock to lock the chapel

Actually : There might exist a second lock somewhere in the house that closes it as good. No one said that you have to use the lock on the front door, you imagined it yourself.

NeloDeath said:
That's kind of leaving logic and substituting arbitrary reasoning.

snakea said:
its getting interesting, it reminds so much of 1st season of higurashi just because i havnt got a clue whats going on and why it reapets it self, but its still gd.