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Jun 2, 2022 9:33 AM
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We all know that Kurumi is the first spirit conceptualized by the author.

She is the first spirit who wasn't sealed, and had the first dark arc.

DAL was like a widget waifu of the week series until she came to shake things up with her gothic dress and bloodbath.

Kurumi is also a plot enforcer as she has a different goal from Shido. When Westcott and Elliot don't do their bits, she is the one who is instrumental for uncovering DAL lore.

All these reasons, and add the spice of yangire nature, the franchise has milked her appeal to death.

While many will come to DAL just for her, it also means that everything else is hurried by the studios; increasingly so, as the seasons go on and makers became desperate for sales.


S1 and S2 blu-rays present a significantly better anime than their TV aired counterparts, but I wonder how many even cared to see that?

S3 made a mediocre presentation of the best arcs (till then) - Origami Angel and Origami Devil. It destroyed the fan favorite Itsuka Disaster Arc.

Now, as the top reviewer here has correctly pointed out, they went through the motions for the Nia and Mukuro arcs to make way for Kurumi arcs.

NOTHING MAKES AN IMPACT. Not Westcott's twisted villainy. Not Mukuro's emotional issues, Nia's suffering, Shido's characterization - you speak of it.

If they adapt both Refrain and Ragnarok in the rest of the four episodes, it's all gone. Down the drain.

Vol 16 onwards is peak DAL, not the "Kurumi show" advertisement that Geek Toys is making it out to be (They even made an EARLY adaptation of DAB, whoa!)

Now, this might sound like a rant, but these are my raw feelings.

This was a really nice show which had a ridiculous premise but had it's own charm and surprisingly deep hidden story backed by continuous foreshadowing and development . Now it's a One Spirit Show.

Kurumi is in my top 5 favorites from the novel, so obviously I don't dislike her. The title here just presents a sad irony.
"All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo
Jun 2, 2022 10:47 AM
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Why were blu-rays for S1-2 that much better?
Jun 2, 2022 10:54 AM
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On another note: i’m in agreement with you. The impact and emotional appeal is not quite as there as it was in prior seasons. OST, character expression, vibrance, movement.. it feels flattened. Nia and Mukuro’s love feels contrived and forced. But, do consider that as a LN reader, your opinion will be naturally hyper critical, especially compared to the anime-onlies. As one who hasn’t read the novels myself, I am still enjoying the season for its lore exposition and continuity. S3 had a plethora of issues. I may just read the novels myself to experience the true story. This is the sad reality most LN readers face with time constraints on adaptations, ones that novels don’t have.
Not every LN based series will have the blood, sweat, and tears poured into it that Re:Zero, Mushoku Tensei, and Monogatari had.
Jun 2, 2022 11:22 AM
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slugdirsh said:
Why were blu-rays for S1-2 that much better?


Yep. They have the additional Director Cut scenes and there's some good care shown for the material here and there. The pacing feels very good too, especially S2 where this (and the stupid non-canon first episode) was responsible for the pseudo-downgrade from S1.

S3 is a mess. Just J.C. Staff smashing down another sequel adaptation.

Edit: 86 nailed the LN adaptation with a new director. Let's hope it's a sign for better things to come.
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Jun 2, 2022 3:30 PM
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I swear I’m the only one that doesn’t really like her. She’s my least favorite
Jun 2, 2022 3:35 PM
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slugdirsh said:
On another note: i’m in agreement with you. The impact and emotional appeal is not quite as there as it was in prior seasons. OST, character expression, vibrance, movement.. it feels flattened. Nia and Mukuro’s love feels contrived and forced. But, do consider that as a LN reader, your opinion will be naturally hyper critical, especially compared to the anime-onlies. As one who hasn’t read the novels myself, I am still enjoying the season for its lore exposition and continuity. S3 had a plethora of issues. I may just read the novels myself to experience the true story. This is the sad reality most LN readers face with time constraints on adaptations, ones that novels don’t have.
Not every LN based series will have the blood, sweat, and tears poured into it that Re:Zero, Mushoku Tensei, and Monogatari had.

as someone who is anime only and who fricking adores kurumi i 100% agree with this the new season just feels ridiculously rushed. I feel like nia could be my second favourite spirit if she was given the proper character arc she deserves but no she barely got an episode... I feel like mukuro got a bit more but I still feel like the story was missing alot
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Jun 2, 2022 3:54 PM
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Ngl, Kurumi was the sole reason why i watched this show.

& speaking about her & her show,
I treat every other female character in this show like "i know they have an arc but i dont care."

Tohka had a decent introduction & 1st impressions but her character was thrown out of the window after that.

Nia couldve been great but other than that, i know she was there. One & done.

Interesting premise but most characters didnt deliver.

A literal carry job is going on here.
I feel bad for my Waifu.
Her back must have hurt so bad.
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Jun 2, 2022 4:04 PM
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Ragnarok isn't getting adapted in the last 4. It is has been leaked by ep titles. The pacing for S1 is no different from S4. S1 covered 4 lns and truncated Yoshino's. S1 had issues with animation like the can flying down the street which look unpolished. RZ covered 15 lns in 4 cours so its pacing is more or less the same as DAL.

This post doesn't consider context. A1 is highly unlikely to go all the way for 86 and give a season for every 1-2 ln volumes. A1 is guaranteed to leave it in the corner in favour of Sword Art Online. 86 had disappointing disc sales, and I don't think its lns sales can put it above SAO. The same thing people said about 86 people said about A1's Magi adaptation. Now in 2022 magi fans are crying for another season regardless of the studio.

The anime scene is that competitive. Most shows cannot go past 2 cours and can barely adapt 5 lns before being dropped. If the anime goes at a sluggish 1-2 lns per season and doesn't bring in profit, production committees will drop it. DAL is on its 4th season and managed to get more than halfway through 22 volumes which is considered an extremely difficult feat for a ln series. DAL already has more scales figures than Overlord, Mushoku, Konosuba, Tensura so it's anime already performed well. When it comes to ln series, any boycotts is just going to hurt chances of another season and people will then be crying for another season regardless of studio.

Peter Payne from Jlist (someone who is deeply knowledgeable and works with anime) already acknowledges it as a major franchise. https://blog.jlist.com/your-friend-in-japan/why-is-date-a-live-so-popular-here-are-six-reasons/. R/anime, mal scores, and ANN scores are also a poor reflection of the health of a show. Once again, look at Magi. Anime is more niche in the west than it is in parts of Asia. The west is primarily dominated by hollywood, especially disney's star wars and marvel.
Jun 2, 2022 10:15 PM
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icefirestone23 said:
Ragnarok isn't getting adapted in the last 4. It is has been leaked by ep titles. The pacing for S1 is no different from S4. S1 covered 4 lns and truncated Yoshino's. S1 had issues with animation like the can flying down the street which look unpolished. RZ covered 15 lns in 4 cours so its pacing is more or less the same as DAL.

This post doesn't consider context. A1 is highly unlikely to go all the way for 86 and give a season for every 1-2 ln volumes. A1 is guaranteed to leave it in the corner in favour of Sword Art Online. 86 had disappointing disc sales, and I don't think its lns sales can put it above SAO. The same thing people said about 86 people said about A1's Magi adaptation. Now in 2022 magi fans are crying for another season regardless of the studio.

The anime scene is that competitive. Most shows cannot go past 2 cours and can barely adapt 5 lns before being dropped. If the anime goes at a sluggish 1-2 lns per season and doesn't bring in profit, production committees will drop it. DAL is on its 4th season and managed to get more than halfway through 22 volumes which is considered an extremely difficult feat for a ln series. DAL already has more scales figures than Overlord, Mushoku, Konosuba, Tensura so it's anime already performed well. When it comes to ln series, any boycotts is just going to hurt chances of another season and people will then be crying for another season regardless of studio.

Peter Payne from Jlist (someone who is deeply knowledgeable and works with anime) already acknowledges it as a major franchise. https://blog.jlist.com/your-friend-in-japan/why-is-date-a-live-so-popular-here-are-six-reasons/. R/anime, mal scores, and ANN scores are also a poor reflection of the health of a show. Once again, look at Magi. Anime is more niche in the west than it is in parts of Asia. The west is primarily dominated by hollywood, especially disney's star wars and marvel.


S1 BD has episodes over 24 minutes.

Also these are more plot heavy episodes.
RZ has bigger arcs, so they rushed Arc 3 and somewhat managed with Arc 4 using 29 minutes eps using lack of personnel.

That is dedication.

Regarding 86, you can take a look here: https://www.reddit.com/r/EightySix/comments/oxrt1g/comment/h7p0s7f/

Otherwise agree, what sells is unpredictable
Laplace_kunJun 2, 2022 10:19 PM
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Jun 3, 2022 3:27 AM

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Laplace_kun said:


S1 BD has episodes over 24 minutes.

Also these are more plot heavy episodes.
RZ has bigger arcs, so they rushed Arc 3 and somewhat managed with Arc 4 using 29 minutes eps using lack of personnel.

That is dedication.

Regarding 86, you can take a look here: https://www.reddit.com/r/EightySix/comments/oxrt1g/comment/h7p0s7f/

Otherwise agree, what sells is unpredictable


S1 was just the encore ova. It didnt give time to expand the runtime for main series.

Rz still got criticized for animation downgrade in s2 as well as omitting novel parts so it is not immune.

86 undersold dress up darling and world's end harem. It's night and day the merch 86 got and sao gets. Dal iv is getting more or on par # of scaled figures with sao alicization esp recentlgly.
Although there is hope for 86, i suspect a1 will drop 86 like magi.

Having popular characters is important for getting audiences which is why dal iv is tracking on anime corner, topped ami ami hot blu rays for weeks. There is a reason why venom succeeded and morbius flopped. People will stick with shows if they like the characters.
Jun 3, 2022 3:34 AM

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icefirestone23 said:
Laplace_kun said:


S1 BD has episodes over 24 minutes.

Also these are more plot heavy episodes.
RZ has bigger arcs, so they rushed Arc 3 and somewhat managed with Arc 4 using 29 minutes eps using lack of personnel.

That is dedication.

Regarding 86, you can take a look here: https://www.reddit.com/r/EightySix/comments/oxrt1g/comment/h7p0s7f/

Otherwise agree, what sells is unpredictable


S1 was just the encore ova. It didnt give time to expand the runtime for main series.

Rz still got criticized for animation downgrade in s2 as well as omitting novel parts so it is not immune.

86 undersold dress up darling and world's end harem. It's night and day the merch 86 got and sao gets. Dal iv is getting more or on par # of scaled figures with sao alicization esp recentlgly.
Although there is hope for 86, i suspect a1 will drop 86 like magi.

Having popular characters is important for getting audiences which is why dal iv is tracking on anime corner, topped ami ami hot blu rays for weeks. There is a reason why venom succeeded and morbius flopped. People will stick with shows if they like the characters.


I said S1 had 24+ min episodes in BD.

Rz did the long episodes DESPITE the lack of personnel and COVID situation. That's adaptational dedication.

DAL will be forgotten mostly except for a one waifu show. I wasn't ever really talking about sales mind you; even glorified porn can sell well. If people hear something is uncensored in BD version, they'll rush to buy them.
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Jun 3, 2022 6:38 AM

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Rz did the long episodes DESPITE the lack of personnel and COVID situation. That's adaptational dedic

DAL will be forgotten mostly except for a one waifu show. I wasn't ever really talking about sales mind you; even glorified porn can sell well. If people hear something is uncensored in BD version, they'll rush to buy them.


That isnt the case. Dxd hero had terrible sales drop. Showing a censored version didnt help at all. In fact, it jusy turn off viewers fron giving it a shot. This is why hard ecchi is in decline. Dal wont be quickly forgotten considering how long it has managed to run, how kadokawa featured it in the light novel expo, the sheer amount of merch and promotion.
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icefirestone23 said:
Laplace_kun said:
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Rz did the long episodes DESPITE the lack of personnel and COVID situation. That's adaptational dedic

DAL will be forgotten mostly except for a one waifu show. I wasn't ever really talking about sales mind you; even glorified porn can sell well. If people hear something is uncensored in BD version, they'll rush to buy them.


That isnt the case. Dxd hero had terrible sales drop. Showing a censored version didnt help at all. In fact, it jusy turn off viewers fron giving it a shot. This is why hard ecchi is in decline. Dal wont be quickly forgotten considering how long it has managed to run, how kadokawa featured it in the light novel expo, the sheer amount of merch and promotion.



"Dal won't be quickly forgotten"

Well I hope so...

And give your sources
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Jun 3, 2022 8:52 AM
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Laplace_kun said:
We all know that Kurumi is the first spirit conceptualized by the author.

She is the first spirit who wasn't sealed, and had the first dark arc.

DAL was like a widget waifu of the week series until she came to shake things up with her gothic dress and bloodbath.

Kurumi is also a plot enforcer as she has a different goal from Shido. When Westcott and Elliot don't do their bits, she is the one who is instrumental for uncovering DAL lore.

All these reasons, and add the spice of yangire nature, the franchise has milked her appeal to death.

While many will come to DAL just for her, it also means that everything else is hurried by the studios; increasingly so, as the seasons go on and makers became desperate for sales.


S1 and S2 blu-rays present a significantly better anime than their TV aired counterparts, but I wonder how many even cared to see that?

S3 made a mediocre presentation of the best arcs (till then) - Origami Angel and Origami Devil. It destroyed the fan favorite Itsuka Disaster Arc.

Now, as the top reviewer here has correctly pointed out, they went through the motions for the Nia and Mukuro arcs to make way for Kurumi arcs.

NOTHING MAKES AN IMPACT. Not Westcott's twisted villainy. Not Mukuro's emotional issues, Nia's suffering, Shido's characterization - you speak of it.

If they adapt both Refrain and Ragnarok in the rest of the four episodes, it's all gone. Down the drain.

Vol 16 onwards is peak DAL, not the "Kurumi show" advertisement that Geek Toys is making it out to be (They even made an EARLY adaptation of DAB, whoa!)

Now, this might sound like a rant, but these are my raw feelings.

This was a really nice show which had a ridiculous premise but had it's own charm and surprisingly deep hidden story backed by continuous foreshadowing and development . Now it's a One Spirit Show.

Kurumi is in my top 5 favorites from the novel, so obviously I don't dislike her. The title here just presents a sad irony.

not gonna lie, idk why people hate s2 so much, it was amazing lel

if s3 never existed, and now s4 is made on s3 i might have been able to put it to one of the best harem series

now, since kurumi was "introduced early" which was like 99% not necessary, it does make me think that the world doesnt only revolve around this one mc

its an appeal that not much anime have

now while i do agree with you, i do think date a live is way overrated, especially with the nia arc (not including when they got sucked in Beelzebub) and mukuro arc

i also feel like mukuro is just a filler, idk why

i dont dislike date a live, in fact i read the whole LN, and just think, why this series?
theres like a million other better series, but why date a live?

if they by any chance, remake s3, ill def watch it and probably give it a high 8 / low 9
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at the end of the day they still treat anime as an advertisement platform for fans to buy the original source material.
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I swear I’m the only one that doesn’t really like her. She’s my least favorite

same lol

i dont really get why people like kurumi

i used to think her as "oh shiny eyes" lol
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KayShawn258 said:

same lol

i dont really get why people like kurumi

i used to think her as "oh shiny eyes" lol


Because yangire, some "dangerous and aggressive" girl tendencies and "less vanilla" are traits that catch the view of the common viewer faster. Also she's "unconquered" unlike the other girls.

Though I'd take the villainy of Westcott over her grey nature any day.

Origami is more complex character.

Even the semi-anime original Mayuri has better design than Kurumi.

Shido's character development, backstory and versatility makes him a better MC to follow.

The Yamai twins are more entertaining in terms of screen presence.

But Kurumi will take spotlight for the reasons above and because the author uses her as a lore unpacking device.

However, I'll believe you'll like Kurumi more through the current arc and the next arc.
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Laplace_kun said:
KayShawn258 said:

same lol

i dont really get why people like kurumi

i used to think her as "oh shiny eyes" lol


Because yangire, some "dangerous and aggressive" girl tendencies and "less vanilla" are traits that catch the view of the common viewer faster. Also she's "unconquered" unlike the other girls.

Though I'd take the villainy of Westcott over her grey nature any day.

Origami is more complex character.

Even the semi-anime original Mayuri has better design than Kurumi.

Shido's character development, backstory and versatility makes him a better MC to follow.

The Yamai twins are more entertaining in terms of screen presence.

But Kurumi will take spotlight for the reasons above and because the author uses her as a lore unpacking device.

However, I'll believe you'll like Kurumi more through the current arc and the next arc.

ngl, i like origami way more

and i hate kurumi more after her arc lol

especially when her mysteries were told
Jun 3, 2022 9:37 AM

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KayShawn258 said:

ngl, i like origami way more

and i hate kurumi more after her arc lol

especially when her mysteries were told


Fair, lmao. How about Rinne?
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Jun 3, 2022 9:40 AM
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Laplace_kun said:
KayShawn258 said:

ngl, i like origami way more

and i hate kurumi more after her arc lol

especially when her mysteries were told


Fair, lmao. How about Rinne?

Jun 3, 2022 10:49 AM

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Completely agreed! Like most fans here I was drawn to this anime by kurumi's design and character but as time passed she became my least favorite character in the show. She ruins it and ruins the community especially the anime only. Its like nothing is important in this series except for here
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I don't see how Kurumi destroyed the franchise.

I think the major if in this post was if Ragnarok is adapted this season, which I highly doubt unless geektoys is determined to label themselves incompetent. If Ragnarok is adapted this season, I'd say that's pretty much the end of the DAL anime lol... Pretty much sets us up for a 18-22 s5 if s5 ever happens.

I agree that s1 and s2 had significantly better productions than s3 and probably s4. Really depends how geektoys handles the bd, which I'm not holding my breath for. That being said, overall post seems more like its about how geektoys and production will destroy DAL not Kurumi if anything.

And even if geektoys plays the most incompetent Ragnarok adaptation card this season, Kurumi would probably be the only thing keeping the series afloat at that point... well, "afloat".
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Laplace_kun said:
We all know that Kurumi is the first spirit conceptualized by the author.

She is the first spirit who wasn't sealed, and had the first dark arc.

DAL was like a widget waifu of the week series until she came to shake things up with her gothic dress and bloodbath.

Kurumi is also a plot enforcer as she has a different goal from Shido. When Westcott and Elliot don't do their bits, she is the one who is instrumental for uncovering DAL lore.

All these reasons, and add the spice of yangire nature, the franchise has milked her appeal to death.

While many will come to DAL just for her, it also means that everything else is hurried by the studios; increasingly so, as the seasons go on and makers became desperate for sales.


S1 and S2 blu-rays present a significantly better anime than their TV aired counterparts, but I wonder how many even cared to see that?

S3 made a mediocre presentation of the best arcs (till then) - Origami Angel and Origami Devil. It destroyed the fan favorite Itsuka Disaster Arc.

Now, as the top reviewer here has correctly pointed out, they went through the motions for the Nia and Mukuro arcs to make way for Kurumi arcs.

NOTHING MAKES AN IMPACT. Not Westcott's twisted villainy. Not Mukuro's emotional issues, Nia's suffering, Shido's characterization - you speak of it.

If they adapt both Refrain and Ragnarok in the rest of the four episodes, it's all gone. Down the drain.

Vol 16 onwards is peak DAL, not the "Kurumi show" advertisement that Geek Toys is making it out to be (They even made an EARLY adaptation of DAB, whoa!)

Now, this might sound like a rant, but these are my raw feelings.

This was a really nice show which had a ridiculous premise but had it's own charm and surprisingly deep hidden story backed by continuous foreshadowing and development . Now it's a One Spirit Show.

Kurumi is in my top 5 favorites from the novel, so obviously I don't dislike her. The title here just presents a sad irony.

Really, why did you waste your time writting this rant?
Did they even given hints that they were gonna cramm 2 volumes in 4 episodes? Yes this season is rushed, like most DAL's seasons are, yet 4 volumes is doable and it was clear they were going for that from the start, so again, POINTLESS rant.

And POINTLESS click bait title, here I though you actually had something interesting to comment.
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Really, why did you waste your time writting this rant?


Why did you waste your time reading the "rant" and writing a useless reply to it? At least I know what I am doing, and my time is in my hands.


Did they even given hints that they were gonna cramm 2 volumes in 4 episodes? Yes this season is rushed, like most DAL's seasons are,


Most DAL seasons? Well technically wrong

yet 4 volumes is doable and it was clear they were going for that from the start, so again, POINTLESS rant.


Not POINTLESS (you don't have to write in capitals just because you got frustrated), because adapting Ragnarok too wasn't the only issue presented in the post.

And POINTLESS click bait title, here I though you actually had something interesting to comment.


It's not a click bait title, if you have problems in comprehension skills, my condolences.

Now don't waste my time writing useless shit.
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Laplace_kun said:
Playcool said:

Really, why did you waste your time writting this rant?


Why did you waste your time reading the "rant" and writing a useless reply to it? At least I know what I am doing, and my time is in my hands.


Did they even given hints that they were gonna cramm 2 volumes in 4 episodes? Yes this season is rushed, like most DAL's seasons are,


Most DAL seasons? Well technically wrong

yet 4 volumes is doable and it was clear they were going for that from the start, so again, POINTLESS rant.


Not POINTLESS (you don't have to write in capitals just because you got frustrated), because adapting Ragnarok too wasn't the only issue presented in the post.

And POINTLESS click bait title, here I though you actually had something interesting to comment.


It's not a click bait title, if you have problems in comprehension skills, my condolences.

Now don't waste my time writing useless shit.


I assure you I wasted must less my time reading than you did writing, but what was annoying is that I expected you to write something about the title that I could think about, that presented a valid argument, which you didnt.

Did not consider the rest you said because I dont agree 100% on it, but I gotta say Nia arc needed to create more impact for sure, and it did NOT as much as the LN did, so wasted potential there.

" It destroyed the fan favorite Itsuka Disaster Arc."
It is statements like these that made me read faster and avoid referring to your other points, that volume is far from being a fan favorite, wtf you are talking about?!
Origami's is better, and if I had to call anything fan favorite, it would be Kurumi's right now.

From the episodes we got, it is clear your worries about them cramming Ragnarok here are invalid.
Considering at episode 10 was still at the halfway point in percentage of Vol 16.

So yes, it was POINTLESS for you to create a post and rant about that, it is clear with the pacing they are going that this is gonna end on Refrain.

I don't think Kurumi destroyed the franchise at all, and I expected a more valid argument from you, so pointless. Wait, forget to say POINTLESS.

Ragnarock won't be adapted this season, simply, also, even S3 had at least 4 volumes adapted, so this pacing is nothing new, but indeed an episode for a volume on III was RETARDED.
"Most DAL seasons? Well technically wrong"
Sorry, let me correct that, all DAL seasons are really rushed when compared to the source material, there are worst causes of course, but great pacing was never a strong suit for the anime adaptations for DAL.

Now, maybe I could have worded some stuff there better to be less confrontational, but you really baited me with a promise of something actually interesting to discuss and then wrote that... but I do understand that for fan-favorite adaptations, emotions can sway easily, but again, never it was hinted that they were gonna adapt Ragnarock, so you should have been more patient on that front and not jumping the gun right at the very start of vol16.
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Playcool said:

I assure you I wasted must less my time reading than you did writing, but what was annoying is that I expected you to write something about the title that I could think about, that presented a valid argument, which you didnt.


That first line screams of naive edginess because you forgot the time you wasted writing your reply.

I did exactly that and displayed the reasons behind Kurumi's popularity growing. Made it more obvious as the reply sections increased. Obviously I wanted people to think on it and they did. Unlike you.


" It destroyed the fan favorite Itsuka Disaster Arc."
It is statements like these that made me read faster and avoid referring to your other points, that volume is far from being a fan favorite, wtf you are talking about?!
Origami's is better, and if I had to call anything fan favorite, it would be Kurumi's right now.


I didn't say it's the better written arc, I said it's a fan favorite. And I have experience of DAL fandom for years to know that.


From the episodes we got, it is clear your worries about them cramming Ragnarok here are invalid.
Considering at episode 10 was still at the halfway point in percentage of Vol 16.

So yes, it was POINTLESS for you to create a post and rant about that, it is clear with the pacing they are going that this is gonna end on Refrain.


This post was made at a time when they went from 3 episodes per volume to 2.5 per volume and I was yet to see the future teases. It's you who is wasting time on the outdated part of my comment which I have already reached a closure in the forum itself. It's POINTLESS.


I don't think Kurumi destroyed the franchise at all, and I expected a more valid argument from you, so pointless. Wait, forget to say POINTLESS.


Your comments have been POINTLESS. "I expected a more valid argument from you" - forget about that, you are the one arguing against my viewpoint, so you were supposed to be more valid in your statements and not spamming POINTLESS to convince yourself


Sorry, let me correct that, all DAL seasons are really rushed when compared to the source material, there are worst causes of course, but great pacing was never a strong suit for the anime adaptations for DAL.


I meant rushed according to the usual LN adaptation. S1 and S2 does partly that with the Director Cut. S3 did this shit down to perfection by adapting a whole volume in one episode. The newer volumes have denser material and so obviously 3 episodes aren't enough. Two Mukuro volumes in five episodes really show what arc they are desperately trying to reach.

so you should have been more patient on that front and not jumping the gun right at the very start of vol16.


Ok I agree on the patience part, but that is barely a point against my so-called clickbait title here. They ended up using the most number of episodes for a single Kurumi volume and adapted DAB beforehand, so the point stays.

It's remarkable how you are blind to huge no. of fans everywhere who don't care about anything but Kurumi in DAL. What are you fighting against by writing this? Have YOU made any statements for or against the topic of discussion except for grazing it superficially and using a tunnel visioned perspective?
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