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Days: 68.8
Mean Score: 7.23
  • Total Entries453
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Overlord II
Overlord II
May 18, 2018 7:51 PM
Completed 13/13 · Scored 7
B: The Beginning
B: The Beginning
Mar 2, 2018 10:43 AM
Dropped 10/12 · Scored 4
No Game No Life: Zero
No Game No Life: Zero
Feb 27, 2018 3:40 AM
Completed 1/1 · Scored 5
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Yuureitou
Yuureitou
May 20, 2018 3:45 PM
Reading -/80 · Scored -
Bastard!!: Ankoku no Hakaishin
Bastard!!: Ankoku no Hakaishin
May 1, 2018 3:46 PM
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Eden: It's an Endless World!
Eden: It's an Endless World!
May 1, 2018 3:29 PM
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Jex Jan 14, 2018 4:41 PM
Popularity is irrelevant.

It must be a coincidence that you analysed the characters. I have also analysed those characters but came to a much more unfriendly conclusion.
Jex Jan 14, 2018 2:10 PM
You care about popularity rather than accuracy and truth. Huge logical fallacy.

I’m relevant enough to you because you’re writing long responses and spending your time replying.
Jex Jan 14, 2018 1:16 PM
>But it's her character
>But it's his character
>But it was necessary
>But it's for comedy
>But it's for a mature audience

Your arguments are all trying to justify the degeneracy, not that there was none.

If you had bothered to do research you would know that my other issues with the show are not as you described. You don't seem to care about being accurate or being correct.
Jex Jan 14, 2018 2:33 AM
You did acknowledge it.

>"Riko being strung up naked or being unclothed"
>It was a form of punishment involving shame--a more severe one.

Sexual humiliation. This is fetishism.

>"common dick jokes involving Reg"
>those scenes had the main intent of bringing attention to Reg's partial organic body

Of which his genitals, weren't necessary to point to. His mouth and ears would be just as fine. Why did was the focus on his genitals? Fetishism.

>"Riko urinating herself frequently"
>It's totally natural for it to have happened; you're meaning to say it shouldn't happen because you consider it distasteful--but because you consider it sexual, when it's only because it's dirty.

Then why did Nanachi make fun of Reg regarding that scene? Nanachi is clearly fetishising the situation.

>"a direct statement about arousal involving Reg and Riko"
>Yeah? It's a natural thing, having to do with Reg's personality (and age)

They fetishise the innocence of Riko with her curiosity of Reg's genitalia.

>"Mitty having an inherently fetished human character design"
>Right. Unfortunately writers have to do this

Acknowledged that characters are fetishised and sexualised. You forgot you made this comment when you stated that you only acknowledged Maruruk was fetishised.

>The author might be sexually interested in young fictional characters, yeah.

Yes. He is sexually interested in the idea of children. He fetishises them. That's pedophilia.

I've already made the arguments with evidence. You have poorly rebutted this evidence. You've still not made any comment on my other issues with the show which are also important. I did not compare Monogatari with Made in Abyss. I compared the defense of Monogatari with the defense of Made in Abyss.
Jex Jan 13, 2018 11:06 PM
Fetishism occurred in the show. You are being willfully ignorant. You acknowledge that Maruruk is fetishised, yet you don't want to admit that the show fetishises children.

You have not argued against my point that sexualising and fetishising children, even fictional children, is pedophilia. You've acknowledged how the characters have been fetishised. You've also opted to point out Maruruk, who is fetishised. You are aware Maruruk is fetishised. Essentially, you're making the Monogatari defense where you try to excuse degeneracy with poor explanations, character attacks and irrelevant pseudo-philosophical bloviation. You're not making a good argument that it's not degenerate because you've acknowledged it as so.
Jex Jan 13, 2018 5:08 PM
Ideas are real. The ideas of Made in Abyss are real. The message of it is real. The purpose for it is real. The intention for it is real.

My evidence is not weak. You're choosing to disregard it, probably because you like the show. You went with emotions first and are trying to justify it. Look at everything first and form your opinion based on that.

Natural occurrences and the fetishism of natural occurrences aren't quite the same thing. You should know this but you're being willfully ignorant.
Jex Jan 13, 2018 12:48 AM
Your weak attempt at applying an irrelevant logical fallacy won't divert my focus. It's not a well thought out diversion.

I'm applying morality in regards to a show that exists in real life.

I have not mentioned religion once.

Digibro and The Anime Man are not experts.


You're making the mistake of thinking that because Made in Abyss is fiction that nothing matters. This is not the case.

I have already given evidence and reason as to why Made in Abyss has the sexualisation and fetishisation of children. You are pretending that this doesn't exist, possibly because you like the show. That's a bad way to argue. If Made in Abyss was condemning the sexualisation of children, I would not criticise it for the sexualisation of children because it would already have done so. In saying so, if Made in Abyss truly were condemning the sexualisation of children it would not fetishise them. If you do not acknowledge the fetishism, which should be clear to you having read my examples, you are lying to yourself that the show is not degenerate.
Jex Jan 12, 2018 10:16 PM
No matter whether someone is attracted to children or the idea of children, it is still pedophilia and completely indefensible. A producer who sexualises children for profit is not a decent person. Does it make money? Yes. It's also wholly immoral.

You're taking a postmodern stance on the issue by saying that the circumstances matter, instead of principle. This means you probably don't have principles. And even if we take the stance of context being paramount, there are no circumstances in which the fetishisation of children is a good thing.

Consensus means nothing. Digibro is a postmodern hack who think K-On is the greatest anime. Digibro decides whether he likes something or not and then tries to justify why it must be good. The correct way to form critical judgement is to look at everything it does and form a judgement from that. The Anime Man clearly has no standards and makes up reasons why the things he enjoys are good.

I have noted that rarely do people attempt to argue against my other points against Made in Abyss, which you may have read, and instead try to argue that sexualising and fetishising children is somehow not a problem.

Concede that the fetishisation of children is a bad thing and that the creator of Made in Abyss is a pedophile.
Jex Jan 12, 2018 6:20 PM
Pedophilia is the attraction to children. The writer of Made in Abyss is attracted to children. He has the mindset of a pedophile. No normal person would draw sexualised children.

Yes, happening every 3-4 episodes is common.

You're suggesting I'm ignorant for not simply accepting the sexualisation of children and you're trying to justify it with false arguments. But they had a reason for doing so. But they had to make money. But it's "natural". But it's fine in the context of the story. But it's fine if they don't show genitalia. But it's fine because the sexualised drawings of children aren't real children.

Don't make excuses. Own up that you like a show that sexualises children and was created by a pedophile.
RWFC Dec 19, 2017 11:30 PM
Casshern should be higher on your list!
Calal-Chan Oct 25, 2017 9:17 AM
See now I agree with you Shigurui is seinen. Granted I have not seen it but it was published in a seinen magazine. I also do have NHK on my plan to watch list someday XD
Calal-Chan Oct 25, 2017 1:11 AM
While I still disagree with how you view it I in no way care about my forum image lol I just enjoy a good debate XD
Calal-Chan Oct 24, 2017 11:23 PM
So I am gonna be honest with you. You can believe me or not. I had a whole thing typed that covered my side of the debate. Then I had a part saying we should agree to disagree since seinen is such a broad topic. Then I stated we shouldn't even be fighting since we both like the show. Then I went to my desktop to find an adorable pic of Nanachi. While doing so I closed out of chrome and lost everything I typed. So I guess I will just send the pic of Nanachi and move on with my life since I guess sending that message would have been a mistake anyway. I will note however that saying "You don't wanna admit that you're wrong" is really bad to do in an argument. It is something that is usually used as a cop out and makes the person who said it seems like they are bad at debating or were put into a corner and had nothing else to say. Anyway, enjoy this cute Nanachi as I honestly feel the debate is pointless at this point and we should just agree to disagree.

Calal-Chan Oct 24, 2017 8:59 PM
I said to leave a comment on my profile since we derailed the thread XD Also you seem to be looking at seinen wrong. It isn't a rating it is a demographic. I thought I made it clear that seinen isn't something that means mature. It simply means what it is targeted for. You seem to just not understand what demographic means. Probably won't continue this conversation because at this point I would be going in circles. Do some research on your own time XD

Thanks for the conversation though :)
Jagd84 Oct 7, 2017 12:30 PM
People like him argue in bad faith. They make up their mind about something intentionally disregard anything that challenges that viewpoint. It's like other dude Lawson who also full of his he when through every episodes complain about the show. Both him and other guy are just attention whores at the end of the day.