DelRey Withdraws From Japanese Manga Publishing
According to Anime!Anime!, Kodansha and RandomHouse announced that DelRey will withdraw from the publishing of Japanese manga and Kodansha USA will take over their titles from December 1st. DelRey and its parent company RandomHouse will support Kodansha USA as a contract distributer.
Anime!Anime! says it'll be beneficial for DelRey to become a contractor of Kodansha instead of sticking to the risky business to sustain only 10% market share.
Source: Anime!Anime!
Anime!Anime! says it'll be beneficial for DelRey to become a contractor of Kodansha instead of sticking to the risky business to sustain only 10% market share.
Source: Anime!Anime!
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Waffocopter said:
Yeah, you really can't compare shows like Eureka or 24 with non-tv anime releases. I'm fairly sure that anime companies pay the tv stations for the privilege to air their stuff.
Yeah, you really can't compare shows like Eureka or 24 with non-tv anime releases. I'm fairly sure that anime companies pay the tv stations for the privilege to air their stuff.
I've read anime companies tend to offer their shows for free according to Christopher MacDonald from Anime News Network.
Christoper MacDonald, ANN Editor in Chief said:
Its not Bandai, Viz, Funimation, etc... that decide what goes on TV. Its the TV networks.
So short answer: Those shows aren't on TV because TV networks don't want them.
The TV networks put the shows on that they feel will bring them a lot of viewers and, more importantly, generate revenue. Its important for anime fans to realize that if you put the best anime ever made on during prime-time network TV, it won't generate anywhere near the number of viewers as what the Networks have on right now. Its also important to understand that networks and specialty channels will always favor content they own over licensed content. Even if its cheaper to get the rights to an anime than it is to produce an original show, the original show has more revenue opportunity since the network/channel will make money off the DVD and merch sales related to the original show. This is why Adult Swim shows Robot Chicken and Aqua Teen Hunger Force instead of anime.
Networks & Channels don't chose content because its good, they chose it because it will bring in viewers and make them money. Naruto certainly does that a lot better than Lodoss War.
Don't forget that 24/7 anime channels have been attempted in North America. They didn't get enough viewers to be profitable.
Also worth noting that TV networks/channels don't always pay for the content. A lot of the anime that was shown on TV before was paid for by the anime companies. They paid to get the shows on TV in order to promote the DVD sales (this is the way it works in Japan too). It depends on the show, some shows the networks/channels pay for, other shows the anime companies pay for.
Short version of the explanation: TV Networks don't want anime because it doesn't make them enough money.
Its not Bandai, Viz, Funimation, etc... that decide what goes on TV. Its the TV networks.
So short answer: Those shows aren't on TV because TV networks don't want them.
The TV networks put the shows on that they feel will bring them a lot of viewers and, more importantly, generate revenue. Its important for anime fans to realize that if you put the best anime ever made on during prime-time network TV, it won't generate anywhere near the number of viewers as what the Networks have on right now. Its also important to understand that networks and specialty channels will always favor content they own over licensed content. Even if its cheaper to get the rights to an anime than it is to produce an original show, the original show has more revenue opportunity since the network/channel will make money off the DVD and merch sales related to the original show. This is why Adult Swim shows Robot Chicken and Aqua Teen Hunger Force instead of anime.
Networks & Channels don't chose content because its good, they chose it because it will bring in viewers and make them money. Naruto certainly does that a lot better than Lodoss War.
Don't forget that 24/7 anime channels have been attempted in North America. They didn't get enough viewers to be profitable.
Also worth noting that TV networks/channels don't always pay for the content. A lot of the anime that was shown on TV before was paid for by the anime companies. They paid to get the shows on TV in order to promote the DVD sales (this is the way it works in Japan too). It depends on the show, some shows the networks/channels pay for, other shows the anime companies pay for.
Short version of the explanation: TV Networks don't want anime because it doesn't make them enough money.
Oct 13, 2010 1:42 PM by Hypeathon
Hypeathon said:
That's probably because other TV shows have gained back all of the money by running on television and earning ad revenue on television networks. So it wouldn't take long for a TV show to have made all it's money after it's released on DVD.
Anime is probably a different story though. Anime DVDs have to gain all of their money back from the DVD sales alone. They hardly have the support of teleivision networks on their sides or ad revenue from commercials on television. Though commercial ads from streaming sites are a different matter which is why your fucking skittles and geico commericals exist if you ever watch anything on sites like Funimation or Crunchyroll!
supersonic124 said:
Are you fucking kidding me? $40 is a lot of money for 9 episodes. Ive seen TV shows on DVD with 20-30 episodes for $20 and under.
Are you fucking kidding me? $40 is a lot of money for 9 episodes. Ive seen TV shows on DVD with 20-30 episodes for $20 and under.
That's probably because other TV shows have gained back all of the money by running on television and earning ad revenue on television networks. So it wouldn't take long for a TV show to have made all it's money after it's released on DVD.
Anime is probably a different story though. Anime DVDs have to gain all of their money back from the DVD sales alone. They hardly have the support of teleivision networks on their sides or ad revenue from commercials on television. Though commercial ads from streaming sites are a different matter which is why your fucking skittles and geico commericals exist if you ever watch anything on sites like Funimation or Crunchyroll!
Yeah, you really can't compare shows like Eureka or 24 with non-tv anime releases. I'm fairly sure that anime companies pay the tv stations for the privilege to air their stuff. Japanese dvds are so expensive because those and merchandise (and overseas sales, I guess) are the only ways to make money.
I personally enjoy the Geico commercials on Funimation. >_>
Oct 13, 2010 8:39 AM by Waffocopter
Hypeathon said:
That's probably because other TV shows have gained back all of the money by running on television and earning ad revenue on television networks. So it wouldn't take long for a TV show to have made all it's money after it's released on DVD.
Anime is probably a different story though. Anime DVDs have to gain all of their money back from the DVD sales alone. They hardly have the support of teleivision networks on their sides or ad revenue from commercials on television. Though commercial ads from streaming sites are a different matter which is why your fucking skittles and geico commericals exist if you ever watch anything on sites like Funimation or Crunchyroll!
supersonic124 said:
Are you fucking kidding me? $40 is a lot of money for 9 episodes. Ive seen TV shows on DVD with 20-30 episodes for $20 and under.
Are you fucking kidding me? $40 is a lot of money for 9 episodes. Ive seen TV shows on DVD with 20-30 episodes for $20 and under.
That's probably because other TV shows have gained back all of the money by running on television and earning ad revenue on television networks. So it wouldn't take long for a TV show to have made all it's money after it's released on DVD.
Anime is probably a different story though. Anime DVDs have to gain all of their money back from the DVD sales alone. They hardly have the support of teleivision networks on their sides or ad revenue from commercials on television. Though commercial ads from streaming sites are a different matter which is why your fucking skittles and geico commericals exist if you ever watch anything on sites like Funimation or Crunchyroll!
That's too bad for them, they should get a better business model then. Until prices go down they won't see any of my money.
Oct 13, 2010 8:26 AM by supersonic124
supersonic124 said:
Are you fucking kidding me? $40 is a lot of money for 9 episodes. Ive seen TV shows on DVD with 20-30 episodes for $20 and under.
Are you fucking kidding me? $40 is a lot of money for 9 episodes. Ive seen TV shows on DVD with 20-30 episodes for $20 and under.
That's probably because other TV shows have gained back all of the money by running on television and earning ad revenue on television networks. So it wouldn't take long for a TV show to have made all it's money after it's released on DVD.
Anime is probably a different story though. Anime DVDs have to gain all of their money back from the DVD sales alone. They hardly have the support of teleivision networks on their sides or ad revenue from commercials on television. Though commercial ads from streaming sites are a different matter which is why your fucking skittles and geico commericals exist if you ever watch anything on sites like Funimation or Crunchyroll!
Oct 12, 2010 5:48 PM by Hypeathon
Waffocopter said:
9 episodes for a $40 non-thinkpack DVD? I'll be willing to pay an arm and a leg for that. I hate thinpacks with a passion.
9 episodes for a $40 non-thinkpack DVD? I'll be willing to pay an arm and a leg for that. I hate thinpacks with a passion.
Are you fucking kidding me? $40 is a lot of money for 9 episodes. Ive seen TV shows on DVD with 20-30 episodes for $20 and under.
Oct 12, 2010 10:26 AM by supersonic124
well news r news
Oct 12, 2010 6:11 AM by Mr_Gutts
dang that sucks =(
i get shugo chara from them so i hope it wont be affected much!!!!
good thing most of my manga are from shojo beat and tokyopop ^^
i get shugo chara from them so i hope it wont be affected much!!!!
good thing most of my manga are from shojo beat and tokyopop ^^
Oct 11, 2010 5:30 PM by CrystalLake
Hypeathon said:
Something tells me every manga company would charge you $1 a volume instead of $10 for 10 chapters and there would STILL be some weird complaints regarding an entitlement-complex.
Something tells me every manga company would charge you $1 a volume instead of $10 for 10 chapters and there would STILL be some weird complaints regarding an entitlement-complex.
That's because if they charged them $1 a volume instead of $10 for 10 chapters there would still be some weird complaints regarding an entitlement-complex.
also when did they start charging 20 dollars a volume? Maybe your stores suck in wherever you live as they're about 10.99 for every Del Ray manga I've seen.
Oct 10, 2010 7:52 PM by kkslider5552000
Waffocopter said:
I hate thinpacks with a passion.
I hate thinpacks with a passion.
You make it sound like DVD thinpacks grew arm, legs, and physically abused you while having you chained and locked up inside a basement or something.
Oct 10, 2010 7:08 PM by Hypeathon
Tsubasa, XXXholic, Negima, Ghost Hunt, Faust and Zaregoto? Don't leave me? And...I'm still waiting for Kara no Kyoukai.
9 episodes for a $40 non-thinkpack DVD? I'll be willing to pay an arm and a leg for that. I hate thinpacks with a passion.
supersonic124 said:
Sure they have a dub but you gotta pay an arm and a leg to get them.
Kantarou said:
With the exception of the Gurren lagann movies, R.O.D is a re-release and Durarara!! WILL have a dub, along with other bonuses.
With the exception of the Gurren lagann movies, R.O.D is a re-release and Durarara!! WILL have a dub, along with other bonuses.
Sure they have a dub but you gotta pay an arm and a leg to get them.
9 episodes for a $40 non-thinkpack DVD? I'll be willing to pay an arm and a leg for that. I hate thinpacks with a passion.
Oct 10, 2010 5:06 PM by Waffocopter
*heavy sigh* After Air Gear starting to coming back from August, this have to happen. Del Rey got tons of awesome series they have in their sleeves.
This better not effect my recent collection of Code: Breaker.
I hope this joint or whatever stuff make stuff better instead of worse.
This better not effect my recent collection of Code: Breaker.
I hope this joint or whatever stuff make stuff better instead of worse.
Oct 10, 2010 1:19 PM by -shinigamikid-
This sucks.
They're one of the best and most quality manga publishers I've seen. :I
Ah well. Better grab what I've been meaning to buy while they're still on the shelves...
They're one of the best and most quality manga publishers I've seen. :I
Ah well. Better grab what I've been meaning to buy while they're still on the shelves...
Oct 10, 2010 12:52 PM by SoneAnna
nseika said:
Being unfamiliar with manga publishing in the US, does every licensor there tied up with a Japanese publisher ?
Like, one company only publish Kodansha, other publish only Shueisha/Shogakukan, etc ?
Being unfamiliar with manga publishing in the US, does every licensor there tied up with a Japanese publisher ?
Like, one company only publish Kodansha, other publish only Shueisha/Shogakukan, etc ?
Yes, that's pretty much exactly how not just every manga publisher in America operates, but so does every Anime company in America as well. Since they're getting all of this stuff from the Japanese which originally belongs to them professionally, that includes consulting Japanese companies for permission on every title they acquire and probably even every little procedure they make.
Sabinlerose said:
Positive: The company who charges 20 fucking dollars for a single book is out.
The negative: Knowing the new company, its going to cost 30.
Positive: The company who charges 20 fucking dollars for a single book is out.
The negative: Knowing the new company, its going to cost 30.
Something tells me every manga company would charge you $1 a volume instead of $10 for 10 chapters and there would STILL be some weird complaints regarding an entitlement-complex.
Maora said:
I'm okay with Del Rey Giving all their Japanese manga to Kodansha USA, but than one Kasumi manga and two two X-Men Mangas? Will they release then (Del Rey) or are they douchebags and only ever thought about putting the readers in a permanent cliffhanger.
I'm okay with Del Rey Giving all their Japanese manga to Kodansha USA, but than one Kasumi manga and two two X-Men Mangas? Will they release then (Del Rey) or are they douchebags and only ever thought about putting the readers in a permanent cliffhanger.
I think you're referring to the X-Men: Misfits and Wolverine manga, both of which were cancelled since April because not enough people bought the graphic novels." And surprise, surprise, this is actually quite common in the comic industry in general.
Oct 10, 2010 11:33 AM by Hypeathon
As long as i can still buy manga i dont give a shit who publishes it.
Oct 10, 2010 11:08 AM by musashi7
Positive: The company who charges 20 fucking dollars for a single book is out.
The negative: Knowing the new company, its going to cost 30.
The negative: Knowing the new company, its going to cost 30.
Oct 10, 2010 10:57 AM by Sabinlerose
Please tell me Sayonara, Zetsubou Sensei won't get any mess ups...
Oct 10, 2010 9:12 AM by Silverfan
So are they still going to publish titles under Del Rey 'til December? Guess I better get the rest of Mushishi while I still can.
Oct 10, 2010 8:38 AM by Touka
I'm okay with Del Rey Giving all their Japanese manga to Kodansha USA, but than one Kasumi manga and two two X-Men Mangas? Will they release then (Del Rey) or are they douchebags and only ever thought about putting the readers in a permanent cliffhanger.
Oct 10, 2010 6:55 AM by Maora
i hope that the serie will still continue ,,, SR,suzuka and so on,,, it so much that delrey had doing good job,,,,
can anyone here explain what will happen from now on,,,
-_- ,, please
can anyone here explain what will happen from now on,,,
-_- ,, please
Oct 10, 2010 5:54 AM by enerjak
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