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Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & DVD Rankings for Jun 29 - Jul 5

by tsubasalover
Jul 7, 2015 1:58 AM | 108 Comments
Here are the weekly Blu-ray & DVD rankings for June 29th - July 5th

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Blu-ray
*1. 31,157 31,157 Uta no☆Prince-sama♪ Maji Love Revolutions Vol.1 (CD Bundle)
*2. 10,791 10,791 Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova DC Limited Edition
*3. *6,245 *6,245 Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Vol.5 Limited Edition
*4. *2,548 23,279 Code Geass: Boukoku no Akito 3 - Kagayaku Mono Ten yori Otsu Limited Edition
*5. *2,042 12,911 Kantai Collection Vol.4 Limited Edition
*6. *1,699 *1,699 Aikatsu! 3rd Season "Akari Generation" Blu-ray BOX Vol.2 (eps.127-139)
*7. *1,464 *1,464 Mamoru Hosoda Animation Works 2006-2012 Limited Edition (incl. Toki wo Kakeru Shoujo, Summer Wars & Ookami Kodomo no Ame to Yuki)
*8. *1,416 *6,897 Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season Vol.3
*9. *1,345 14,659 Sword Art Online II Vol.9 Limited Edition
10. *1,167 *1,167 Kamisama Hajimemashita◎ Vol.3
11. *1,147 11,163 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku Vol.1 Limited Edition
12. **,974 **,974 Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova DC Regular Edition
13. **,940 *7,717 Hibike! Euphonium Vol.1
14. **,849 *9,535 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Vol.2 Limited Edition
15. **,795 *6,813 Angel Beats! Blu-ray BOX Limited Edition
(cut-off 795)


DVD
*1. 18,120 18,120 Uta no☆Prince-sama♪ Maji Love Revolutions Vol.1 (CD Bundle)
*2. *1,572 *7,242 Kuroko no Basket 3rd Season Vol.3
*3. *1,217 *1,217 Summer Wars Special Limited Edition
*4. **,978 **,978 One Piece 17th Season "Dressrosa" Vol.13
*5. **,804 **,804 Naruto: Shippuuden "Ninkai Taisen - Uchiha Obito" Vol.4
*6. **,771 81,958 Stand By Me Doraemon Limited Edition
*7. **,760 **,760 Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova DC
*8. **,744 *3,649 New Prince of Tennis OVA vs Genius10 Vol.5
*9. **,741 **,741 Kamisama Hajimemashita◎ Vol.3
10. **,669 **,669 Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata Vol.5 Limited Edition
11. **,645 **,645 Ookami Kodomo no Ame to Yuki Special Limited Edition
12. **,639 **,639 Pri Para Vol.10
13. **,594 *5,928 Funassyi no Funafunafuna Biyori Vol.1 "Nashi, Kourin Nasshi~! Funafuna Ver." Limited Edition
14. **,484 35,878 Tonari no Totoro
15. **,479 *2,267 Code Geass: Boukoku no Akito 3 - Kagayaku Mono Ten yori Otsu Limited Edition
16. **,478 *2,414 Kantai Collection Vol.4 Limited Edition
17. **,444 *3,486 Owari no Seraph Vol.1 Limited Edition
18. **,395 *3,099 Sword Art Online II Vol.9 Limited Edition
(cut-off 395)


Preliminary DVD & Blu-ray Sales Rankings for Spring 2015 (First Volumes)

*1. 49,277 Uta no☆Prince-sama♪ Maji Love Revolutions (2015/07/01)
*2. 19,371 Kekkai Sensen (2015/06/17)
*3. 11,478 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku (2015/06/24)
*4. *8,776 Hibike! Euphonium (2015/06/17)
*5. *8,598 Show By Rock!! (2015/06/24)
*6. *6,228 Owari no Seraph (2015/06/24)
*7. *6,217 Sidonia no Kishi: Daikyuu Wakusei Seneki (2015/04/29)
*8. *5,957 Hello!! Kiniro Mosaic (2015/06/24)
*9. *5,275 Nisekoi: (2015/06/24)
10. *5,135 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka (2015/06/24)
11. *3,092 Tesagure! Bukatsumono Spin-off Purupurun Sharumu to Asobou (2015/06/24)
12. *2,601 Plastic Memories (2015/06/24)
13. *2,524 Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu (2015/06/26)
14. *2,142 Gunslinger Stratos: The Animation (2015/05/27) *
15. *1,756 Houkago no Pleiades (TV) (2015/06/24)
16. *1,730 Triage X (2015/06/26)
17. *1,667 Ninja Slayer From Animation (2015/06/24) *
18. **,968 Re-Kan! Volume 0 (2015/06/17)
19. **,934 Mikagura Gakuen Kumikyoku (2015/06/24)
20. **,817 Etotama (2015/04/15)
21. **,786 Ore Monogatari!! (2015/06/24)
22. **,453 Danna ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken 2 Sure-me (2015/06/19) *
* - partial sales


Not Yet Released
Kyoukai no Rinne (TV) (2015/07/15) [DVD]
Gintama° (2015/07/22)
Punch Line (2015/07/22)
Arslan Senki (TV) (2015/07/23)
Grisaia no Meikyuu (2015/07/23)
High School DxD BorN (2015/07/24)
Shokugeki no Souma (2015/07/29)
Denpa Kyoushi (TV) (2015/08/26)
Grisaia no Rakuen (2015/08/26)
Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo (TV) (2015/08/26) [BD-Box/DVD-Box]
Takamiya Nasuno Desu!: Teekyuu Spin-off (2015/08/28) [BD-Box]
Teekyuu 4 (2015/08/28) [BD-Box]

Source: Oricon Youtaiju, Someanithing

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yay zoku is selling well.

Jul 20, 2015 4:28 AM by GodlyKyon

tsubasalover said:
Here are the weekly Blu-ray & DVD rankings for June 29th - July 5th
Preliminary DVD & Blu-ray Sales Rankings for Spring 2015 (First Volumes)

*1. 49,277 Uta no☆Prince-sama♪ Maji Love Revolutions (2015/07/01)
*3. 11,478 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. Zoku (2015/06/24)
*4. *8,776 Hibike! Euphonium (2015/06/17)
*5. *8,598 Show By Rock!! (2015/06/24)
*6. *6,228 Owari no Seraph (2015/06/24)
*8. *5,957 Hello!! Kiniro Mosaic (2015/06/24)
*9. *5,275 Nisekoi: (2015/06/24)
10. *5,135 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka (2015/06/24)
12. *2,601 Plastic Memories (2015/06/24)
19. **,934 Mikagura Gakuen Kumikyoku (2015/06/24)
21. **,786 Ore Monogatari!! (2015/06/24)
22. **,453 Danna ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken 2 Sure-me (2015/06/19) *
* - partial sales


People saved up all of their money for UtaPri. God save us. Such a meh 3rd season and yet... Well, I am very happy for Hibike, Oregairu, Kiniro Mosaic, Show By Rock etc. Overall, my favorite anime sold well so I am very happy. Plastic Memories could've done better though. And Mikagura did bad, but it was expected. The adaptation wasn't that good anyways.

Jul 19, 2015 3:07 AM by TragicRomance

Kotobukii said:
j0x said:


not just that genius name calling but also the other reply of your with fucking stupid arguments remember that?


I called your argument stupid, because it was stupid. I didn't call you stupid.


ye that argument of mine that Japan hates Madhouse? i already said it was a joke

Kotobukii said:

j0x said:


a show can be successful with just 5000 disc sales? source for that, i think its getting unfair that im the only one providing sources to what im saying on this thread when i talk to people here


It depends on the show, but yes. A show can be successful with a 5k average.

Look at this guy's site
http://www.someanithing.com/sales-faqguide
and go to 'What's the break even point for anime' and it goes on about how it depends on certain circumstances and a success for one series can be different for another. Also 'how are sequels determined' may be of use too.


i actually know that site very well

and also this came straight from a japanese otaku http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=762061

look im looking for a reason why Madhouse went bankrupt and the only good reason so far is the low disc sales of their anime and a youtuber said that Madhouse did fund some of their anime that flopped too on disc sales like Redline said by this video https://youtu.be/-AHo-_XEV6E?t=1m45s

thats why im connecting the low disc sales to how Madhouse went bankrupt and continue to have poor sales, this recent works like Ore Monogatari and Death Parade shows that too, that is also why i compare them their disc sales to other popular studios and they are like the last studio on that list in terms of disc sales

Jul 8, 2015 3:07 PM by isekai

j0x said:


not just that genius name calling but also the other reply of your with fucking stupid arguments remember that?


I called your argument stupid, because it was stupid. I didn't call you stupid.

j0x said:


a show can be successful with just 5000 disc sales? source for that, i think its getting unfair that im the only one providing sources to what im saying on this thread when i talk to people here


It depends on the show, but yes. A show can be successful with a 5k average.

Look at this guy's site
http://www.someanithing.com/sales-faqguide
and go to 'What's the break even point for anime' and it goes on about how it depends on certain circumstances and a success for one series can be different for another. Also 'how are sequels determined' may be of use too.

Jul 8, 2015 2:58 PM by marx-chan

Kotobukii said:
j0x said:
@ToG25thBaam

@Kotobukii

no, Madhouse do not have a lot of anime hits, for an anime to be called a success it usually have to get 10,000 disc sales per volume, source - http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=296000


Madhouse has four 'hits', only 9 other studios have the same amount as hits or more, most studios on that list are lucky to have one hit let alone four, so by comparison, they're looking fine.

A 'hit' is different than a success. A show can sell 5k and still be a success, but it's not a hit. Plenty of shows have sold under 10k per volume and have gotten multiple seasons, so obviously, 10k is not the marker for where a series suddenly starts making money. Saekano doesn't have 10k per volume sales, but it's already got a S2 announced, Sekaiichi Hatsukoi sold way less than 10k and got two seasons. JR sold less than 10k and got 3 seasons, Project K didn't sell 10k and it's gotten a movie, and another season. There are plenty more series with less sales than that that got multiple seasons and were considered 'successes.'

Also, did you even read this?
this "10,000 copies" means the sales to the retailers, not to the individual customers.


We only know sales to customers, not how much was shipped, so for all we know they could have very well shipped 10k copiers to retailers.


err i do not know about that maybe its language barrier, but i read that as 10,000 average disc sales as hits

a show can be successful with just 5000 disc sales? source for that, i think its getting unfair that im the only one providing sources to what im saying on this thread when i talk to people here

Jul 8, 2015 2:43 PM by isekai

Kotobukii said:

Report me cause I sarcastically called you a genius? Please.

How am I supposed to know that? I'm not a part of the studio. The only people who really know why they went bankrupt is Madhouse themselves.


not just that genius name calling but also the other reply of your with fucking stupid arguments remember that?

and ye so you do not know then why Madhouse went bankrupt and that is my question and why i still reply to this thread you know

Jul 8, 2015 2:40 PM by isekai

j0x said:
@ToG25thBaam

@Kotobukii

no, Madhouse do not have a lot of anime hits, for an anime to be called a success it usually have to get 10,000 disc sales per volume, source - http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=296000


Madhouse has four 'hits', only 9 other studios have the same amount as hits or more, most studios on that list are lucky to have one hit let alone four, so by comparison, they're looking fine.

A 'hit' is different than a success. A show can sell 5k and still be a success, but it's not a hit. Plenty of shows have sold under 10k per volume and have gotten multiple seasons, so obviously, 10k is not the marker for where a series suddenly starts making money. Saekano doesn't have 10k per volume sales, but it's already got a S2 announced, Sekaiichi Hatsukoi sold way less than 10k and got two seasons. JR sold less than 10k and got 3 seasons, Project K didn't sell 10k and it's gotten a movie, and another season. There are plenty more series with less sales than that that got multiple seasons and were considered 'successes.'

Also, did you even read this?
this "10,000 copies" means the sales to the retailers, not to the individual customers.


We only know sales to customers, not how much was shipped, so for all we know they could have very well shipped 10k copiers to retailers.



im not trying to be a genius here im looking for answers you know, you are the one going on with the unneeded insults here im tempted to report you so if you do not have any answer at all then just stop baiting already

and you still did not answer why Madhouse went bankrupt then


Report me cause I sarcastically called you a genius? Please.

How am I supposed to know that? I'm not a part of the studio. The only people who really know why they went bankrupt is Madhouse themselves.

Jul 8, 2015 2:38 PM by marx-chan

rederoin said:

so if im wrong im looking for a good answer as to why they went bankrupt then if not for those weak disc sales

I actually do not really care if they even went bankrupt, or why.


your replies add nothing informative so i will just quote this and say i care that they went bankrupt because i like their shows but im not a blind fanboy that cannot see why their anime do not usually sells in japan

Jul 8, 2015 2:34 PM by isekai

j0x said:
rederoin said:

They are popular in the west, that does not mean they are popular in the east..


you want a source on common sense? I mean, I could explain why things are different in the west and east... but I though everybody already knew that.


1. i know that thats why im looking for answers if they fund a lot of series for them to go bankrupt

They also have to spend money on other things, not just the few anime that they do fund.


2. i know that like source materials like boost in manga sales can make funding for anime real

So why the focus on disc sales?


3. isnt Hunter X Hunter 2011 funding due to Nihon TV that aired that anime too? since the time they where acquired of that TV station is also the time range when they announced the Hunter X Hunter 2011 remake correct me if im wrong, also Hajime No Ippo maybe 100+ episodes in total but now a days its just seasonal and 2-cour show rather than another 50-70 episodes like the first season, so their maybe difficulty in funding there and its not like they ran out of source material to animate as well seeing the manga has 1000+ chapters already

So you acteally get they do not fund everything they animate?



4. yes but that is because of the boost in manga sales and its easy to speculate that the manga creators/publishers will go and fund anime for the same anime studio again

Your point?




so if im wrong im looking for a good answer as to why they went bankrupt then if not for those weak disc sales

I actually do not really care if they even went bankrupt, or why.

Jul 8, 2015 2:31 PM by rederoin

Kaioshin_Sama said:
j0x said:


see my post above i agree with the bolded parts

and so why Madhouse went bankrupt then? they went bankrupt because their works did not sell well right?

and i already explained that Japan hates Madhouse maybe a wrong wording so i change it to Madhouse works are not the best sellers because they do not ponder to the otaku market as you said


They don't really have to is the thing. They have enough clout and experience that they can get daytime TV contracts and they won some pretty high regard during the Satoshi Kon era. His passing was a pretty bit setback for them but they've pulled together and even recently had a spin off studio in Mappa which is in a similar position of being able to land various contracts like Garo and Bahamut and even attract talents like Watanabe and Sato. Big publishers like Bandai and Aniplex also obviously like working with them or they wouldn't land the likes of Terror in Resonance or One Punch Man either between Madhouse and Mappa. Hunter was also a huge land for Madhouse that gave them 3 years of honest work ended only by it catching up to the manga


well according to this video https://youtu.be/-AHo-_XEV6E?t=1m45s MAPPA was created or split with Madhouse because of the Madhouse bankruptcy situation, and now MAPA works like Terror in Resonance and even Bahamut did not sell well even Punchline i bet will not sell well too, but ye MAPPA is still starting so that may change but so far their are no major hits from them yet

and Bahamut will be out of MAPPA too, Cygames its creator made its own anime studio http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1360982

im not following much new shows from Madhouse but i heard their original anime Death Parade flops so hard too

and still looking on why they went bankrupt in the first place, my guess is the low disc sales compared to other studios

the Japan hates Madhouse maybe a joke but there is some truth in it like you said their anime usually are not otaku pondering

Jul 8, 2015 2:29 PM by isekai

j0x said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:

Its like you're just not listening. Madhouse does not typically make shows intended to sell discs. Quite often they are not aiming at the otaku buyer market. When they do shows like NGNL or Mahouka its absolutely no coincidence they suddenly chart because those are light novel adaptations and within the sphere of what they buy. I really don't see what's hard to understand about this or my above explanation


see my post above i agree with the bolded parts

and so why Madhouse went bankrupt then? they went bankrupt because their works did not sell well right?

and i already explained that Japan hates Madhouse maybe a wrong wording so i change it to Madhouse works are not the best sellers because they do not ponder to the otaku market as you said


They don't really have to is the thing. They have enough clout and experience that they can get daytime TV contracts and they won some pretty high regard during the Satoshi Kon era. His passing was a pretty bit setback for them but they've pulled together and even recently had a spin off studio in Mappa which is in a similar position of being able to land various contracts like Garo and Bahamut and even attract talents like Watanabe and Sato. Big publishers like Bandai and Aniplex also obviously like working with them or they wouldn't land the likes of Terror in Resonance or One Punch Man either between Madhouse and Mappa. Hunter was also a huge land for Madhouse that gave them 3 years of honest work ended only by it catching up to the manga

Jul 8, 2015 2:02 PM by PeacingOut

Kaioshin_Sama said:

Its like you're just not listening. Madhouse does not typically make shows intended to sell discs. Quite often they are not aiming at the otaku buyer market. When they do shows like NGNL or Mahouka its absolutely no coincidence they suddenly chart because those are light novel adaptations and within the sphere of what they buy. I really don't see what's hard to understand about this or my above explanation


see my post above i agree with the bolded parts

and so why Madhouse went bankrupt then? they went bankrupt because their works did not sell well right?

and i already explained that Japan hates Madhouse maybe a wrong wording so i change it to Madhouse works are not the best sellers because they do not ponder to the otaku market as you said

Jul 8, 2015 1:52 PM by isekai

j0x said:
rederoin said:

They are popular in the west, that does not mean they are popular in the east..


source? because the crunchyroll old news i posted for @ToG25thBaam said differently

rederoin said:

You also keep forgetting a lot of important things.

1. Madhouse only benefits from disc sales if they actually fund the series
2. a series does not need disc sales to be profitable
3. They animated multiple day time shows, 2 of which got over 100 episodes, 1 still ongoing and HxH only ended because it reached the end of the source material.
4. Chihayafuru and kaiji both got sequels with low disc sales, showing us they where profitable enough that they though that a S2 would be profitable again.


1. i know that thats why im looking for answers if they fund a lot of series for them to go bankrupt
2. i know that like source materials like boost in manga sales can make funding for anime real
3. isnt Hunter X Hunter 2011 funding due to Nihon TV that aired that anime too? since the time they where acquired of that TV station is also the time range when they announced the Hunter X Hunter 2011 remake correct me if im wrong, also Hajime No Ippo maybe 100+ episodes in total but now a days its just seasonal and 2-cour show rather than another 50-70 episodes like the first season, so their maybe difficulty in funding there and its not like they ran out of source material to animate as well seeing the manga has 1000+ chapters already
4. yes but that is because of the boost in manga sales and its easy to speculate that the manga creators/publishers will go and fund anime for the same anime studio again

maybe people do not like saying Japan hates Madhouse, so i can rephrase that by saying the anime works of Madhouse usually does not sell well compared to other popular studios in japan (not the entire world) that is the only reason i can think of right now on why they went bankrupt

so if im wrong im looking for a good answer as to why they went bankrupt then if not for those weak disc sales


Its like you're just not listening. Madhouse does not typically make shows intended to sell discs. Quite often they are not aiming at the otaku buyer market. When they do shows like NGNL or Mahouka its absolutely no coincidence they suddenly chart because those are light novel adaptations and within the sphere of what they buy. I really don't see what's hard to understand about this or my above explanation

And yeah I think there actually is some truth to mecha being a niche within a niche these days and just something people don't like. I can't count the number of times people say they won't watch a show because it has mecha in it but then what if they were to replace a show with Bishoujo fighting instead I guess its fine.

edit: I think you're catching my drift now.

Jul 8, 2015 1:48 PM by PeacingOut

Kaioshin_Sama said:
Well its not like Madhouse is unpopular in the East they just don't make a lot of disc seller type shows. They have sn unusually strong following on MAL though for sure. Likewise there are some studios that are popular in the East and pretty well known even outside of otaku circles that aren't so much here if not outright hated like Sunrise.


exactly, Madhouse anime works are not seller type shows in Japan, and ye Sunrise is really hated outside Japan because mecha sucks blah blah blah

Kaioshin_Sama said:

A good example of how Madhouse gets by would be a show like the exceptionally popular in Japan Ace of Diamond which has deals for cross promotion with baseball teams and other merchandise keeping it on television indefinitely. It will also never make a disc ranking cause its over 100 episodes long and just not that kind of show. With rare exception disc sales are for late night anime of the 12-24 episode a pop variety as usually one of the only means of supporting it.


yep i do not know much about Ace of Diamond but if its being shown on morning slot TV program then its easy to say that the TV network is funding it

if a longer series seemed possible, the TV networks would pay most of the cost, and support the show with commercials.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05

Jul 8, 2015 1:47 PM by isekai

rederoin said:

They are popular in the west, that does not mean they are popular in the east..


source? because the crunchyroll old news i posted for @ToG25thBaam said differently

rederoin said:

You also keep forgetting a lot of important things.

1. Madhouse only benefits from disc sales if they actually fund the series
2. a series does not need disc sales to be profitable
3. They animated multiple day time shows, 2 of which got over 100 episodes, 1 still ongoing and HxH only ended because it reached the end of the source material.
4. Chihayafuru and kaiji both got sequels with low disc sales, showing us they where profitable enough that they though that a S2 would be profitable again.


1. i know that thats why im looking for answers if they fund a lot of series for them to go bankrupt
2. i know that like source materials like boost in manga sales can make funding for anime real
3. isnt Hunter X Hunter 2011 funding due to Nihon TV that aired that anime too? since the time they where acquired of that TV station is also the time range when they announced the Hunter X Hunter 2011 remake correct me if im wrong, also Hajime No Ippo maybe 100+ episodes in total but now a days its just seasonal and 2-cour show rather than another 50-70 episodes like the first season, so their maybe difficulty in funding there and its not like they ran out of source material to animate as well seeing the manga has 1000+ chapters already
4. yes but that is because of the boost in manga sales and its easy to speculate that the manga creators/publishers will go and fund anime for the same anime studio again

maybe people do not like saying Japan hates Madhouse, so i can rephrase that by saying the anime works of Madhouse usually does not sell well compared to other popular studios in japan (not the entire world) that is the only reason i can think of right now on why they went bankrupt

so if im wrong im looking for a good answer as to why they went bankrupt then if not for those weak disc sales

Jul 8, 2015 1:39 PM by isekai

Well its not like Madhouse is unpopular in the East they just don't make a lot of disc seller type shows. They have sn unusually strong following on MAL though for sure. Likewise there are some studios that are popular in the East and pretty well known even outside of otaku circles that aren't so much here if not outright hated like Sunrise.

A good example of how Madhouse gets by would be a show like the exceptionally popular in Japan Ace of Diamond which has deals for cross promotion with baseball teams and other merchandise keeping it on television indefinitely. It will also never make a disc ranking cause its over 100 episodes long and just not that kind of show. With rare exception disc sales are for late night anime of the 12-24 episode a pop variety as usually one of the only means of supporting it.

I think there's still a fundamental lack of understanding for how the production committee system works for all of this and people think every studio makes or profits directly from disc sales. Like I can count on one hand studios that are they're own publishers in Sunrise and A-1 and even then not necessarily always. UtaPri and Cross Ange for example weren't published by the studios direct overhead but King Records.

Jul 8, 2015 1:38 PM by PeacingOut

@ToG25thBaam

any source saying that Madhouse is not a known/popular studio in japan? ok they are not the bigger studios out there in terms of employee numbers but they are still popular/known, just that their anime works does not usually sell in japan that does not mean they are not popular there, this is an old poll but it ranked Madhouse at number 6 among anime studio popularity - http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/08/02/poll-japanese-fans-list-their-favorite-anime-studios

@Kotobukii

no, Madhouse do not have a lot of anime hits, for an anime to be called a success it usually have to get 10,000 disc sales per volume, source - http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=296000

look at other studios even the not so newcomer A1-Pictures it has more hits than Madhouse and have reach 30,000+ disc sales

im not trying to be a genius here im looking for answers you know

and you still did not answer why Madhouse went bankrupt then

Jul 8, 2015 1:19 PM by isekai

j0x said:


the point is Madhouse is one of the bigger and popular studios out there and their anime works does not sell well like other popular studios are


You realize popularity in the west doesn't mean it's popular out in the east, right?

j0x said:

you can make excuses all you want and thats what i call a stupid fucking argument, im looking for a reliable reason why Madhouse works (that again is one of the bigger studios out there) are not selling well and why they become bankrupt


How am I making excuses when you're the genius who honestly can't even look at our own link that you shared and see that Madhouse has had plenty of shows that sold well? Just because Madhouse doesn't have a show that sold 20k (Something that is extremely rare for any studio) doesn't mean it's hated. How can you honestly think that's a reasonable train of thought?

Plenty of shows for other studios have flopped too, you gunna go and start claiming Japan hates them as well?

Jul 8, 2015 7:43 AM by marx-chan

UTA NO PRINCE SAMA JUST SLAYED THE CHARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jul 8, 2015 6:25 AM by Machination

j0x said:
thats obvious that a lot of anime studio does not sell well, but the point is Madhouse compared to other big or popuilar studios did not even have 1 anime that sold like 20,000+ disc sales, the closest they got is Card Captor Sakura and thats from 1998

im not exaggerating see this and compare it to other popular studios like Gainax, Sunrise or even Ufotable - http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=781179&show=20#post37

so that joke that Japan hates Madhouse has some truth in it, and no one yet have answered why Madhouse went bankrupt other than the Reddit interview i link from a Anime Producer that says, for anime projects that will not sell well the anime studio themselves funds those projects
You've lost me. Is that because you're under the assumption that Madhouse is actually a popular studio? If so,
rederoin said:
They are popular in the west, that does not mean they are popular in the east..
You also keep forgetting a lot of important things.
This. Sorry to say, Madhouse is mad hyped on MAL, and in the west.

j0x said:
that is not part of their job though as an anime production, try reading about how anime production committee works, the marketing aspects are not mainly part of the anime studio but other investors, they may make anime trailers and anime magazine posters and thats about it, their job is just to animate/draw
We're not talking about anime production though. I know studio is only responsible for the animation, but we are talking about how to make Madhouse's anime sell, and for that, they need a good business plan. (not the animators of course -_-)

Edit:
j0x said:
the point is Madhouse is one of the bigger and popular studios out there and their anime works does not sell well like other popular studios are
And no, Madhouse is not one of the bigger studios out there.

Jul 8, 2015 5:34 AM by ToG25thBaam