New Series from the Author of OreImo to Debut on Dengeki Bunko

gonna wait for the translations but man the author must really a big siscon.

At some point I stopped caring about this crap. Seriously, I really would like to find an explanation as to why the Americans love their action movies so much, or why kids are entertained by animation, or why people enjoy what they enjoy.

Nyah, there is a large cohort of yuri fans among male anime fans too.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e137/Shadowspirit90/Motivation/Incest.jpg

Female anime fans are obsessed with homosexuality. Male anime fans are obsessed with incest.

Perhaps psychological and pop subculture sociological explanation would be more relevant? Or in short, this is just another aspect of moe, in a way it is not much different from chuunibyou moe for example.

At some point I stopped caring about this crap. Seriously, I really would like to find a philosophic explanation why the Japanese love their incest anime and manga so much.

Which is why i never talk about my personal hobbies to other people, unless they're interested, do know me personally, or in message boards

Actually most people know they don't physically exist. But I don't really see much of problem coming out of it as long as they can tell reality from fantasy.
Well, if even being an anime fan after a certain age is already a social stigma and not supposed to be disclosed, I would say that having a waifu is even less of a problem given the task of hiding their anime hobby first and foremost.

LOL, with the same premise or with the fact that she isn't a true imouto?



Right, it may do(that depends on how they treat the waifus, of course)

One thing is for sure, these kinds of people who treat characters as real are in real life. I have no idea of the individual events that they experienced that led them to this, but I have a few problems with it:
While the idea of a waifu, someone who will never betray you, sound appealing, it does not physically exist. I can go into this deeper, but the idea of why that's a problem is pretty evident.

Second is the social stigma. I mean, if it's unveiled to others, you're in pretty big trouble unless your social circle is accepting of your belief.

Good job!

*SLOW CLAPS* Completely agree!!

They aren't even blood related. She became his sister 1 year prior.
We're more likely to get a decent ending now, but I've lost a lot of interest.

Geezus, the siscon is strong in this one. I thought he might try something different after the disastrous ending of volume 12.

Fuck, even the synopsis sounds similar...

-The brother that serves the imouto
-The two are into light novels (part of the stereotypical otaku set)
-A rival that's also into the business and is really good at it

Wow, that's basically Kirino, Kyousuke, and Kuroneko summed up already.

It'll be like reading/watching OreImo all over again, but with different names!

It is actually one reason often mentioned by otaku about why they prefer 2D girls than 3D ones. I can really see their point.

Those 2D waifus probably cost far less to maintain than a real woman anyway, so I fail to see why otakus can't afford their hobby........

I think Amiluhur puts it better than I could have. And this is indeed the picture I get from reading Japanese forums and news. Basically they have the financial means (so less likely to be students) but not much of burden (no family or kids need to support, perhaps even living with his parents), and they are willing to spend a big proportion of their income on their hobby.

A lot of people, even those in Japan, have not really met or talked to a real Japanese "otaku". I have. And over the many years spent in Japan I can say that most of them are just normal chaps, and the big difference is only the passion and commitment they have towards their hobby.

and the legend continues

Again extremely reasonable criticisms from where I'm sitting. This is the sort of thing I mean when I keep saying in certain discussions that it kills a show dead for me when obvious pandering gets in the way of basic logic, character development and storytelling. It's not okay to me when a show just clearly disregards everything in order to depict a certain result on screen. In this case the incest relationship starting up and Kyousuke having to reject the entire cast that's suddenly head over heels for him one by one and trying to flatter and portray otaku in the most positive light it can. Though I'd argue the show always had problems with basic behavioral logic when it came to anything to do with Kirino. Basically the entire world and every character gets put on hold whenever she had a meltdown in the first season and the result always seemed to be about characters coming around to her position and realizing she was "right" and they were "wrong" using some bullshit contrived logic such as "oh we were just hating on her happiness and talent" or, "I failed to understand her feelings" and her being a tremendous whiny bitch of a character apparently just being completely alright in the long run. I've honestly rarely seen scenarios and resolutions so contrived even with regard to light novels, it went beyond just being simplistic and into the realm of "in what world does any of what anybody is saying make any sort of sense even in the context of the already contrived situation".

The irony I'm sure is lost on many who don't think about these sorts of basic things is that because it fails to get the basic things down like making the cast actually tolerable in their interactions and personalities it manages to make them otaku look like anything but decent functional human beings.

But anyway it'd be funny if this really is the author taking a mulligan on OreImo. If he can manage the same kind of story without all the bullshit that made OreImo a complete laughingstock of a story it might not be completely terrible. I doubt I'd still ever watch it, but it'd be an improvement for the guy however dubious.



Fucking this a thousand times. Not only is it irritating to have to sit there for moments on end listening to characters prattle on about a hobby that while I am interested I have no desire to hear dissected by fictional characters while I am partaking in that hobby, but quite often shows that are about these things are atrociously terrible or don't even seem to care about the basic storytelling things. What is the point of this medium self-fellating itself about this. I mean some shows do it better than others admittedly like WataMote which was extremely tongue and cheek and anything but flattering about it and thus kind of refreshing, but for the most part it's one of the things I least enjoy about modern late night anime. I consider scenes that focus on these sorts of things dead minutes and shows that abuse it tend to be quick drops.

Also to be fair I think very few anime are actually about these things, but lately they always seem to be the most popular top selling ones and it's a worrying trend as the last thing I want from the future of anime are tropey anime that are all about tropey anime characters talking about anime tropes trying to be all self-aware and meta and just failing miserably at being funny or insightful and having anything else interesting happen cause they're too busy wanking off to the audience instead.



I'm sort of playing devils advocate here a bit and sort of not, but personally I'm more or less accepting of tropeness in anime nowadays as long as the story and characters are functional in some capacity and I can gain some enjoyment out of watching it. It's the shows that are both tropey and pandering and fail miserably at the basic storytelling things by drowning in trying to self-aggrandize (I'm using that term because I believe you're sort of right about the light novel side of the industry being a little too in bed with a specific niche of it's fans) otaku culture and whatever the hottest new fad is that I can do without.

Regarding Ojou-Sama characters, yeah there's a lot of them, but I swear to god for the most part they seem better than most as far as moe inspired female characters go these days. Not sure if it's just because it's a popular character trope and hence writers are trying a little more with them to make them interesting lately but I find that's one of the few tropes evolving beyond it's roots of butt monkey/haughty laughing girl. I swear half the time I find the token Ojou-sama the best written female character in any given show, though admittedly this is usually a comparative standard to the rest of a given cast and nothing more.

I agree though it seems like one sub-set of the anime fandom in Japan seems to have way too much influence nowadays. I guess these niche fetishists really are the only ones willing to spend that much money on Blu-Rays and the like cause honestly it probably takes a very special kind of person to be willing to blow that much money on anime in a country with a cost of living as high as Japans.



It's worth mentioning that this is honestly a fair, logical and IMO probably accurate point. Long running shows aside from Gintama which is now broken up into 13 episode chunks are really hard to justify charging average Blu-Ray prices for and expecting people to collect every episode.



This honestly sounds kind of plausible actually.

I loved OREimo (even the ending) so can't wait for this! i'm pretty sure it'll get an anime adaption and i already can't wait!! lol plus the little sister looks adorable

Honestly, given how much anime merchandise costs in Japan, it stands to reason that the majority of the real buying market is going to be not-so-different from the average importer: single young adults with full-time jobs who choose to spend lots of money on their hobby rather than on other priorities. These purchasers hardly have a single-minded focus or interest based on the widely varied sales of shows in all sorts of genres. (Look at the top-selling shows of 2012/2013. Hint: they're not all "moe".) The only thing the purchasers have in common is being able/willing to spend a lot of money on their hobbies (at least for one or more shows).

Anyway, all that to say, it's sort of fun in a way that people create this image of otaku culture that's so crazy and eccentric, but the truth is almost always much more boring/mundane than the many anime blogs would have you believe. The stereotypical "otaku" isn't actually what runs the market; the people with the money do.