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Japanese Anime Producers State TAF 2011 Is Impracticable

by dtshyk
Dec 21, 2010 5:59 AM | 60 Comments
The Association of Japanese Animations (AJA) released a statements about Tokyo's Anime and Manga Regulation Ordinance, which passed the metropolitan assembly on December 15th. AJA stated that the ordinance violates the freedom of expression and they endorses the manga publishers' opposition to the regulation.

As the management administrator of Tokyo International Anime Fair (TAF), AJA wants a smooth holding of TAF 2011 but the quality of the festival will significantly decline due to the boycott by the ten manga publishers. AJA said "We are not authorized to make a decision on the cancellation of TAF, but it'll be practically impossible to hold TAF unless the situation gets improved." TAF 2011 is scheduled to be held this March.

Consequence of the boycott anime withdrawn from TAF are masked

AJA is a group of sixty anime producers such as Studio Ghibli, SUNRISE, Aniplex, Bandai Visual, GAINAX, Satelight, Toei Animation, BONES, MAD HOUSE Studios, Production I.G., Studio DEEN, Geneon, Studio Pierrot, J.C.Staff, GONZO.

Sources: GIGAZINE, AJA

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will the gov stay put and watch

Dec 28, 2010 10:56 AM by Mr_Gutts

klowdz said:
I like fanservice but i think people are forgetting about it's purpose,in a way. If you see the same character take her top off every ep, that's not fanservice.


But don't you think the creator should be the one who gets to decide what that purpose is? Not some preacher or politician who takes the task upon themselves to make the decision for everyone else what the purpose is?

Kids are vulnerable. Kids aren't as capable of making good choices as adults. They need to be protected to a certain degree. We're in agreement up to that point.

The problem is that life is in color and laws are in black and white. The solution doesn't fit the problem. Every kid is different, and every example of fanservice is different. The law can't take all those factors into account, and doesn't work that way.

All laws can do is restrict what artists are allowed to write or draw, or forbid them to sell it, which is basically the same thing. That's a big restriction on free expression and creativity just for the sake of keeping an unknown number of curious kids from finding out about sex before they're ready to, and a poor substitute for real parenting.

At the end of the day, the only ones who can protect children from harmful influences and raise them properly are their parents.

Dec 28, 2010 8:51 AM by case649

Precure would be banned under the tyrant's bill. OH NO HE DIDN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ishihara, I hope you die a terrible and painful death.

Dec 24, 2010 2:45 PM by Hoppy

This municipal law can regulate "all mangas and anime".
There is no detailed definition at all.
The work that disappears is decided in feelings of the person who inspects it.

The child's distinction is not significant to the adult if regulated because of the distribution system.

Dec 24, 2010 12:39 PM by siokan

This is what I think
(blantanly stolen from GG fansubs)

And yeah, sometimes it feels right, sometimes ecchi may fit, but in most if not all cases those scenarios happen on things not meant for kids, right?

I like fanservice but i think people are forgetting about it's purpose,in a way. If you see the same character take her top off every ep, that's not fanservice.

And teens think about sex all the time and of course they would like to have it too. Even though i had first at a 'young' age, I was mature enough to know how do it and not just rush into it. Parents aren't trying to stop their kids from having sex, but they want them to be safe and all that bla bla.

If you put a lot of ecchi and fanservice into shows for kids, they will think it's normal and that's where the problem arises.

The bill may be destructive but it doesn't mean it is wrong. It still needs work but i think the main idea lies there somewhere :P

Dec 24, 2010 10:52 AM by Klownzie

The problem on one side is that sometimes it just feels right for the story to have some nudity etc. and when the author is not allowed to use it, the whole situation starts to look somewhat unhonest. I have encountered such forcefully (to my sight) censored scenes some times - it spoiled the emotion at a certain degree.

But there is other side - some works use nudity and fanservice JUST to get some viewers/readers. Which, I think, is wrong, because it only lowers the quality of the story. (I'm not talking about things, where ecchi is the main dish.)

But there is a third side too - a quite good story can be discontinued when trying to avoid using ecchi without necessity. Because a big part of the audience prefers to see more fanservice if the stoty is only "decent". And it is not even a problem with the bill!

Judging from above, I think the bill in action will be quite desctructive for the industry. And it won't be any help for the boys' healthy development too. Because every healthy boy in his teens is interested in seeing naked girls and having sex - what's the problem with that? It's wrong if they are NOT interested :)

And my main point is the following:
People don't turn into otakus because of nudity in manga or anime, or any other porn. It's the problem with socializing and the government should seek ways to solve that, rather than making some questionable bills.

Don't you think that would be logical?

Dec 24, 2010 4:17 AM by selfDemanDeD

psy-p said:


oh, I get your point
you think that sex is wrong and that a little and swift nudity is porn, but this is not
sex is very right and natural and a little fanservice harms no one
it just needs responsability like all things

and if the childrens do idiot things after the parents talk to them it's all childrens fault, but if the parents don't even bother to talk they will take 99% of the fault.


I don't think sex is wrong and im ok with the ocassional fanservice (ie : Winry in FMA:B once in the wole anime, that's fanservice) but i don't think is right to have fanservice in every couple of eps. Don't get me wrong, I like that but like you said it needs to be done with responsability, which some people don't seem to get.

I see the bill as a way to impose that responsability into people rather than just hope they are as responsable as they should be.

And the problem is that even if parents talk to their kids and the kids know what's right and wrong, chances are they are still gonna see nakedness on places they shouldn't and that's what im concerned about.

Dec 23, 2010 12:08 PM by Klownzie

klowdz said:
@psy-p

Yes, you are right. Parents should talk about all that stuff to their kids and chances are they will keep doing those things even if they know they are wrong,they are teenagers, but they DO know that that is wrong and that is what matters. Parents will just lose credibility when they talk to their kids about what's wrong and what isn't if they see all those 'wrong' things everywhere.

It's like smoking, smoking is really really bad but since it is sold everywhere and lots of people do it. Even if you talk to your kids about how wrong smoking is, there is a high chance that they will do it, be it permanently or not, unlike pot which is 'bad/wrong' and there is a lower chance kids will do it.

So, if we make cigars/cigarretes illegal companies won't make money but we know we are making people a bit healthier at least. Though deal for people who like smoking, but they shouldn't in the first place.

@paladin65536

I'm quite confused now..every single taku thinks the bill is wrong and all the anti-otakus think is right, right? Yet i am an otaku and i think is right. I think im looking at this in a whole different way...weird.

Parents can't known for sure what their kids are doing all the time, but knowing that porn is not everywhere and can't be got as easy as getting a candy it's a relief.

With no restrictions and artist is free to do whatever he wants, that doesn't mean he is using his creativity at full power. Restrictions shouldn't help an artist be creative, but they usually do since they later manage to find another ways to tell the same message.



oh, I get your point
you think that sex is wrong and that a little and swift nudity is porn, but this is not
sex is very right and natural and a little fanservice harms no one
it just needs responsability like all things

and if the childrens do idiot things after the parents talk to them it's all childrens fault, but if the parents don't even bother to talk they will take 99% of the fault.

Dec 23, 2010 7:13 AM by psy-p

@psy-p

Yes, you are right. Parents should talk about all that stuff to their kids and chances are they will keep doing those things even if they know they are wrong,they are teenagers, but they DO know that that is wrong and that is what matters. Parents will just lose credibility when they talk to their kids about what's wrong and what isn't if they see all those 'wrong' things everywhere.

It's like smoking, smoking is really really bad but since it is sold everywhere and lots of people do it. Even if you talk to your kids about how wrong smoking is, there is a high chance that they will do it, be it permanently or not, unlike pot which is 'bad/wrong' and there is a lower chance kids will do it.

So, if we make cigars/cigarretes illegal companies won't make money but we know we are making people a bit healthier at least. Though deal for people who like smoking, but they shouldn't in the first place.

@paladin65536

I'm quite confused now..every single taku thinks the bill is wrong and all the anti-otakus think is right, right? Yet i am an otaku and i think is right. I think im looking at this in a whole different way...weird.

Parents can't known for sure what their kids are doing all the time, but knowing that porn is not everywhere and can't be got as easy as getting a candy it's a relief.

With no restrictions and artist is free to do whatever he wants, that doesn't mean he is using his creativity at full power. Restrictions shouldn't help an artist be creative, but they usually do since they later manage to find another ways to tell the same message.

Dec 22, 2010 7:05 PM by Klownzie

I don't like fighting. The result will be bad for both sides. I want all people involved compromise and find the way out of this. Giving obvious and detailed examples would be the best solution.

Dec 22, 2010 6:14 PM by majoringram

maybe all the good series will be 18+ rated, or maybe this will stop the bill forever! lets see how this gonna end

Dec 22, 2010 10:46 AM by Banjo

klowdz said:
Being creative means being able to make great stories WITH the restrictions.

IMO, is not right for,specially, shounen animes/mangas to have fanservice. They are targeted at kids/teens which shouldn't be getting that kind of things so early and so often.

Now...I'm sure lots of teens have had sex, watched porn and extreme violence movies but it doesn't that we should just let them read/watch whatever they want just because some of them are doing it anyway.

The bill is trying to protect people from things they shouldn't be watching/reading. Yes it means companies will complain, it means sales for some mangas/animes will lower. But it also means that people (parents) are sure their kids aren't watching things they shouldn't, yet at least.



inteligent people know that you can't be sure what your childrens are doing when they are out of your sight.
this kind of thing just negates reality, it's not some teenages that do it is the major part of them
they need that their parents talk to them, but with this kind of thing the parents will think "they don't know about it so I don't need to talk"
but in truth they know and they are doing it, without the needed advice
this is just hipocrisy and lazyness.


there are no restrictions about what authors can write, they can write about anything they want
but this doesn't mean that is alright.
the series will sell less, the companies will get less money and the mangakas will be harmed as consequence (canceled series, non- published series...)

Dec 22, 2010 9:34 AM by psy-p

Dont tell me this means that a lot of the anime series will be halted because of their boycott!!!! (gasps)

Dec 22, 2010 6:36 AM by blue-y

i saw this last week on sankaku thought is was just some typikaly bs from sankaku but now omg wtf is going on. :/

Dec 22, 2010 2:17 AM by SetsunaFZero

dtshyk said:
AJA is a group of sixty anime producers such as Studio Ghibli, SUNRISE, Aniplex, Bandai Visual, GAINAX, Satelight, Toei Animation, BONES, MAD HOUSE Studios, Production I.G., Studio DEEN, Geneon, Studio Pierrot, J.C.Staff, GONZO.


wow xD

@topic

NO COMMENT <>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Dec 22, 2010 12:42 AM by Eternal_Shield

klowdz said:
psy-p said:
klowdz said:
I wonder why people are making such a fuss about this. It has been like this in Hollywood and people just live with it. How many kids/teens have seen R rated movies? I don't mean porn but R rated nevertheless.

While it may give a bit of problems, the people who created manga/anime will learn to live with it and who knows, maybe it will improve some works.Now they won't rely on nudity and things like that for comedy.

And how will it limit creativity? If you have less things to write about or whatever, then you have to do your best to make something worth reading/watching.


If i got something wrong let me know on a comment so we don't go offtopic :P



this bill don't restricts creativty, it restricts the public that will buy the mangas and animes
if fewer people buy, fewer money comes
if a story will not bring money then it's canceled or don't is published
simple like that

and the mangakas have the right to write about what they want and use what they want in their stories.


but in truth humans have a wierd logic.
a 16 years old guy can wattch scenes with blood, shoots, death and violence even this things being horrible things in reality,
but he can't see scenes with nudity and sex even when he already did it himself or will do soon and many times in his life.
it's very very weird.
(in some places you can drive and vote with 16 years!!!!)
[I don't want to discuss it (here)]


Being creative means being able to make great stories WITH the restrictions.

IMO, is not right for,specially, shounen animes/mangas to have fanservice. They are targeted at kids/teens which shouldn't be getting that kind of things so early and so often.

Now...I'm sure lots of teens have had sex, watched porn and extreme violence movies but it doesn't that we should just let them read/watch whatever they want just because some of them are doing it anyway.

The bill is trying to protect people from things they shouldn't be watching/reading. Yes it means companies will complain, it means sales for some mangas/animes will lower. But it also means that people (parents) are sure their kids aren't watching things they shouldn't, yet at least.


Uh...not really. Unless the parents do away with their internet connection and keep their kids out of school, there's really no way they can "be sure" their kids aren't watching porn of some kind. I mean, porn is always one search away on the internet and in schools porn can be borrowed from friends. Heck, even with these restrictions, there's probably still a way to get it easily, if the kid had a mind to.

Every good intention Ishihara mouths is an ineffective way to positively effect Japan's youth, though it's a very effective way to make himself look good to Japan's anti-otaku demographic (a rather large group, considering the stigma otaku have in Japanese media.)

P.S.
Being creative doesn't mean you can write good stories despite restrictions, that's just the sign of a good writer. The restrictions only choke the story - they'd be far better if the writer's ideas were allowed to be fully expanded upon.

Dec 22, 2010 12:31 AM by Paladin65536

Well pretty much all the major anime is out of TAF, unless they get them back somehow theres no point in holding TAF at all. I agree with some parts of the bill but geez its restrictions are way too much.
So FUCK THE BILL, FUCK ISHIHARA AND FUCK THE GOVERNMENT!

And why is Ben 10: Alien Force so popular >_>, IMHO it sucks ass. Ben 10 was great though ^^;;

FIGHTO~!

Dec 21, 2010 11:27 PM by Aozure

psy-p said:
klowdz said:
I wonder why people are making such a fuss about this. It has been like this in Hollywood and people just live with it. How many kids/teens have seen R rated movies? I don't mean porn but R rated nevertheless.

While it may give a bit of problems, the people who created manga/anime will learn to live with it and who knows, maybe it will improve some works.Now they won't rely on nudity and things like that for comedy.

And how will it limit creativity? If you have less things to write about or whatever, then you have to do your best to make something worth reading/watching.


If i got something wrong let me know on a comment so we don't go offtopic :P



this bill don't restricts creativty, it restricts the public that will buy the mangas and animes
if fewer people buy, fewer money comes
if a story will not bring money then it's canceled or don't is published
simple like that

and the mangakas have the right to write about what they want and use what they want in their stories.


but in truth humans have a wierd logic.
a 16 years old guy can wattch scenes with blood, shoots, death and violence even this things being horrible things in reality,
but he can't see scenes with nudity and sex even when he already did it himself or will do soon and many times in his life.
it's very very weird.
(in some places you can drive and vote with 16 years!!!!)
[I don't want to discuss it (here)]


Being creative means being able to make great stories WITH the restrictions.

IMO, is not right for,specially, shounen animes/mangas to have fanservice. They are targeted at kids/teens which shouldn't be getting that kind of things so early and so often.

Now...I'm sure lots of teens have had sex, watched porn and extreme violence movies but it doesn't that we should just let them read/watch whatever they want just because some of them are doing it anyway.

The bill is trying to protect people from things they shouldn't be watching/reading. Yes it means companies will complain, it means sales for some mangas/animes will lower. But it also means that people (parents) are sure their kids aren't watching things they shouldn't, yet at least.

Dec 21, 2010 10:54 PM by Klownzie

wow all those major popular anime not at the TAF really will effect them greatly, i mean wow i don't even know any of the anime that are left except Astro Boy,Afro Samurai (i think?), Pac-Man (wow really?) and Ben 10( why is that there anyway?).

Anime like Beyblade,Yu-Gi-Oh,Naruto,Bleach, One Piece,Kimi Ni Todoke,Pokemon, Pastiserie,Keroro Gunsou, Rainbow,Fairy Tail, Transformers,Major,Tamagachi (lol), Inuyasha,Detective Conan,Dragon Ball,that guy from those mystery games (i forgot his name)

So yeah those are all the anime titles i know the rest that were left out i don't know their names but other than those three i mentioned above i doubt that many people will know as much anime as they could have if the popular anime were there.

In other words...the Tokyo's Anime and Manga Regulation Ordinance should just be changed so that they don't lose great anime that are really popular, and the fans are probably pretty pissed off right now. so yeah the AJA (i know most of those producers) have a good point, the attendance at the TAF is going to be not that great at all.

Dec 21, 2010 9:43 PM by rpn101

whoa there are some big names going into this and lol that poster got emptied

Dec 21, 2010 9:34 PM by Neverarine