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Jun 29, 7:09 AM
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Do you people complaining about "diversity" realise that the average anime has no white people in it at all?

American comics are complete crap, but more diversity can make them a little less crap.
@logopolis
I guess you haven't read any American comics.
Like those who denigrate manga just because they are Japanese.
Jun 29, 7:13 AM
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This isekai is definitly better then all Others isekai that Camel Out so far in recent years
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Maruseru93 said:
This isekai is definitly better then all Others isekai that Camel Out so far in recent years

So mushoko tensei,re zero, konosuba and so many others are just third grade isekais huh
Well sums up the average person who likes these soulless cashgrabs
Jun 29, 7:26 AM
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Raptor1986 said:
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sure, while Disney's failure is being flaunted, in the meantime we are witnessing 3 of its films that could become the highest-grossing films of 2024.

only dragon ball, naruto and one piece are as strong as anything coming from hollywood.

What are the titles then could you let me know about it?
Also they ride on their previous successes while not being innovative or just plain boring with tropes nobody is interested in.
@Koyorides_

Inside Out, Deadpool and Mufasa.

Hollywood has its problems I don't doubt, but believing that anime can become an obstacle or a rival.
My boy, these are weeb reveries.
Jun 29, 7:26 AM
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Complaining about diversity in a place that's made for absolute weebs and social outcasts (here) is an irony that isn't lost on me. Jfc, OP, be real right now. Being a transphobe and racist won't make society look at you any better, you're still an otaku and you don't get any more clemency 🤣
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Raptor1986 said:
@Koyorides_
sure, while Disney's failure is being flaunted, in the meantime we are witnessing 3 of its films that could become the highest-grossing films of 2024.

only dragon ball, naruto and one piece are as strong as anything coming from hollywood.

What are the titles then could you let me know about it?
Also they ride on their previous successes while not being innovative or just plain boring with tropes nobody is interested in.
@Koyorides_

Inside Out, Deadpool and Mufasa.

Hollywood has its problems I don't doubt, but believing that anime can become an obstacle or a rival.
My boy, these are weeb reveries.
Jun 29, 7:29 AM
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Raptor1986 said:
@Koyorides_

Inside Out, Deadpool and Mufasa.

Hollywood has its problems I don't doubt, but believing that anime can become an obstacle or a rival.
My boy, these are weeb reveries.

Deadpool is riding on its previous successes mufasa and inside out are decent but you can know the reason why they are actually getting some revenue
Jun 29, 7:30 AM
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VelCake said:
Complaining about diversity in a place that's made for absolute weebs and social outcasts (here) is an irony that isn't lost on me. Jfc, OP, be real right now. Being a transphobe and racist won't make society look at you any better, you're still an otaku and you don't get any more clemency 🤣

I don't care about diversity in anime,rather in Hollywood titles masquerading as a anime
Also I'm not an outcast like you,I have freinds both online and offline that agree with me so cope and seethe
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L + Raito + the anime is by wit Studio and it's actually good
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YahiyaX777L said:
L + Raito + the anime is by wit Studio and it's actually good

Yeah it's made by wit and the writers for the story are actually good but it still seems there are restraints to the anime
Also you seem to be blind too because I said the anime is good for me?(Maybe book a appointment to a eye clinic)
Jun 29, 10:06 AM

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Jun 29, 10:55 AM
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Not a fan of this westernization of anime anyway, feels kinda like colonization. When done with passion, like Edgerunners, it's tasteful. This just feels like it's purely made for money. The commoditization of art is already a problem in the west and I fear it's spreading in the east now too.
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Not a fan of this westernization of anime anyway, feels kinda like colonization. When done with passion, like Edgerunners, it's tasteful. This just feels like it's purely made for money. The commoditization of art is already a problem in the west and I fear it's spreading in the east now too.
@sk8brd_h sure sure why not.

If for decades Japanese productions have been publishing yet another Godzilla film, yet another Go Nagai robot remake, yet another Dragon Ball movie/tv show or yet another Saint Seiya spin-off, or yet another isekai copypasta....and why because of westernization.

Maybe everyone likes to earn, and if they don't the market dies.

If there is an anime about Suicide Squad it's because it interests both parties.

Whoever talks about colonization in this case, better keep quiet, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Made with passion Edgerunners?
with Trigger they imposed yet another loli, because we know that without lolis in the middle they don't attract many otaku.
Tell me if this isn't doing it for money?

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Dije said:
Discord people seems to agree with you OP


Well yeah wouldn't expect WIT going from titles like AOT and vivy fluorite eyes song and several other good titles to this diversity inclusion cashgrab
Unless they keep the anime formula they will be just another hyped up anime that dies out in the end
Even the best of animes get criticism DC is just a small player in this game
@Koyorides_ this show is gay
Jun 29, 11:55 AM
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Cersil said:
Someone smoked way too much while creating this

Is that all you can say from what I typed?
Sounds about right
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sk8brd_h said:
Not a fan of this westernization of anime anyway, feels kinda like colonization. When done with passion, like Edgerunners, it's tasteful. This just feels like it's purely made for money. The commoditization of art is already a problem in the west and I fear it's spreading in the east now too.

Yep same, and the people defending this are even worse
Jun 29, 11:56 AM
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Landonime said:
@Koyorides_ this show is gay

Well yeah because DC actually has those characters haha
Jun 29, 11:57 AM
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Landonime said:
@Koyorides_ this show is gay

Well yeah because DC actually has those characters haha
@Koyorides_ haha I know xD
Jun 29, 12:16 PM

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Cersil said:
Someone smoked way too much while creating this

Is that all you can say from what I typed?
Sounds about right
@Koyorides_ I didn't even read it, I'm about this anime. I mean it's purely commercial work I get it but I like to see it as mocking western comics. There were some funny moments but other than that whole show make my stomach hurt fr. Ending goofy af, that's pretty cool tho that they made zoomer Joker but what the point if he's gone, all he did drove a car with piano (the hell?). That dude Rick Flag my favorite character so far, he's like most normal character idk, obviously Harley and Clay dude pretty cool too but what about John Cena on peacemaker xdd? I'm sorry, had to let it all out...
Jun 29, 12:27 PM
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slugdirsh said:
The point of entertainment is to entertain, which this show has done well in so far. You’re overthinking it.

completely agree with you mate
Jun 29, 2:54 PM
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@Koyorides_ this show is gay
@Landonime

I'm guessing you've seen very few anime if you've never encountered a gay character.

However, those who often repeat "diversity inclusion cashgrab", I read a too veiled racial/homophobic thought.
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@Landonime

I'm guessing you've seen very few anime if you've never encountered a gay character.

However, those who often repeat "diversity inclusion cashgrab", I read a too veiled racial/homophobic thought.
@Raptor1986 what's a homosmexual
Jun 29, 2:59 PM
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sk8brd_h said:
Not a fan of this westernization of anime anyway, feels kinda like colonization. When done with passion, like Edgerunners, it's tasteful. This just feels like it's purely made for money. The commoditization of art is already a problem in the west and I fear it's spreading in the east now too.

Yep same, and the people defending this are even worse
@Koyorides_
so Kohei Horikoshi, the author of MHA, is the worst for you?
He always said he was a fan of Marvel and DC and, inspired by comics, I started my career in comics.

Unfortunately weeb kids like you live in a bubble.
Jun 29, 3:03 PM
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Landonime said:
@Koyorides_ this show is gay

Well yeah because DC actually has those characters haha
@Koyorides_

clearly your problem isn't DC, or why they made him an anime series.
But why some problem with gays.
Jun 29, 3:03 PM
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Landonime said:
@Koyorides_ this show is gay

Well yeah because DC actually has those characters haha
@Koyorides_

clearly your problem isn't DC, or why they made him an anime series.
But why some problem with gays.
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Raptor1986 said:
@Koyorides_
so Kohei Horikoshi, the author of MHA, is the worst for you?
He always said he was a fan of Marvel and DC and, inspired by comics, I started my career in comics.

Unfortunately weeb kids like you live in a bubble.

I still think most of you can't read
I said as of late because I liked Marvel until endgame and some standalone films from DC like the joker
Jun 29, 3:07 PM
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@Koyorides_ haha I know xD
@Landonime

no one in the Suicide Squad is gay.

Gay characters in DC comics are less than 5%

Don't talk about things you don't know, and I guess you're the first to whine if someone criticizes your favorite anime.
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Raptor1986 said:
@Koyorides_

clearly your problem isn't DC, or why they made him an anime series.
But why some problem with gays.

You are making up situations in your head now lol
I explained my position all over this thread and I'm not willing to waste more time in this
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Raptor1986 said:
@Landonime

I'm guessing you've seen very few anime if you've never encountered a gay character.

However, those who often repeat "diversity inclusion cashgrab", I read a too veiled racial/homophobic thought.

Lol can't handle the truth so you turn to whining?
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@Landonime

no one in the Suicide Squad is gay.

Gay characters in DC comics are less than 5%

Don't talk about things you don't know, and I guess you're the first to whine if someone criticizes your favorite anime.
@Raptor1986 what is anime
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Cersil said:
@Koyorides_ I didn't even read it, I'm about this anime. I mean it's purely commercial work I get it but I like to see it as mocking western comics. There were some funny moments but other than that whole show make my stomach hurt fr. Ending goofy af, that's pretty cool tho that they made zoomer Joker but what the point if he's gone, all he did drove a car with piano (the hell?). That dude Rick Flag my favorite character so far, he's like most normal character idk, obviously Harley and Clay dude pretty cool too but what about John Cena on peacemaker xdd? I'm sorry, had to let it all out...

Yeah and I also said I'm not against this anime because it's decent,I think you can read before you make a conclusion for yourself
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slugdirsh said:
The point of entertainment is to entertain, which this show has done well in so far. You’re overthinking it.

It has done well because the studio is wit and it's writers are making good mangas,not because of DC(It's decent in my eyes and pretty generic in some parts and tired tropes in others)
It's games and movies and it's entire studio is a flop so they turn to anime like it's a saving grace and a cope from reality for the company and its "fans"
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ijavi said:
slugdirsh said:
The point of entertainment is to entertain, which this show has done well in so far. You’re overthinking it.

completely agree with you mate

This isn't entertainment tho,it's still a way for DC to remain relevant
It's one thing to say a story but desperate cashgrabs should not be respected
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Art seems good enough but not sure if the story gonna be anything deep, considering the source
Suicide Squad is a terrible movie / franchise in general, so to make a good story out of it might be a tall order.
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There are thousands of koyorides_. texasdes. They watch anime but don't actually care about it besides it being a product. Yeah, anime are just ads for light novel and manga sells in Japan, but within the last decade anime has slowly started to change. More studios have been doing original creations or giving more niche manga/light novels a chance to be made into a production. DC has been giving b tier anime studios work for years. And Warner brothers have been working with anime studios before you were even born. But original works like this are nice because this would have easily just been one of the many straight to DVD DC movies (those are average at best, but some are really decent) but they didn't. I think their last DC anime was Batman Ninja? That animation studio was only known for the jojo intros, relentlessly praised by weebs. Yeah, now they are working on Sandland for the cgi. I expected a Dragon Quest anime before seeing Sandland get adapted. If you had shown me Dungeon Meshi in the past and told me trigger made it, I wouldn't have blinked, but I would have been shocked how well it was doing with viewers.

I live for this experimental shit. If you didn't understand what Space Dandy or Chainsaw Man (I fucking hate chainsaw man as a show) were doing and how cool it was, then you just aren't a fan of anime as a whole. I love anime when it's actually trying. I love it when Japanese studios allow creative collaboration from other countries at different career levels. It's more common than you think, and it usually leads to some amazing stuff.

For a site made to keep track of what anime or manga you have watched and read, I would think discussions about the industry and the artist, voice actors, directors etc. would be encouraged.
Not another person taking time out of their day to make a thread about western influence putting their dirty desperate diversity enabling hands on my precious pristine Japanese anime.
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Wevi said:
There are thousands of koyorides_. They watch anime but don't actually care about it besides it being a product. Yeah, anime are just ads for light novel and manga sells in Japan, but within the last decade anime has slowly started to change. More studios have been doing original creations or giving more niche manga/light novels a chance to be made into a production. DC has been giving b tier anime studios work for years. And Warner brothers have been working with anime studios before you were even born. But original works like this are nice because this would have easily just been one of the many straight to DVD DC movies (those are average at best, but some are really decent) but they didn't. I think their last DC anime was Batman Ninja? That animation studio was only known for the jojo intros, relentlessly praised by weebs. Yeah, now they are working on Sandland for the cgi. I expected a Dragon Quest anime before seeing Sandland get adapted. If you had shown me Dungeon Meshi in the past and told me trigger made it, I wouldn't have blinked, but I would have been shocked how well it was doing with viewers.

I live for this experimental shit. If you didn't understand what Space Dandy or Chainsaw Man (I fucking hate chainsaw man as a show) were doing and how cool it was, then you just aren't a fan of anime as a whole. I love anime when it's actually trying. I love it when Japanese studios allow creative collaboration from other countries at different career levels. It's more common than you think, and it usually leads to some amazing stuff.

For a site made to keep track of what anime or manga you have watched and read, I would think discussions about the industry and the artist, voice actors, directors etc. would be encouraged.
Not another person taking time out of their day to make a thread about western influence putting their dirty desperate diversity enabling hands on my precious pristine Japanese anime.

Im a fan of anime not western corporations you can keep your seethe thread to yourself
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Ventus_S said:
Art seems good enough but not sure if the story gonna be anything deep, considering the source
Suicide Squad is a terrible movie / franchise in general, so to make a good story out of it might be a tall order.

True, although the anime is quite decent because of studio wit and authors who have written good mangas like re zero
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@Koyorides_ that is NOT what otokonoko means lmfao

Otoko means man and I know my japanese
Please cope and seethe
@Koyorides_

Clearly not if you think otoko no ko means man in a dress

Yes otoko is man. otoko no ko is a boy. no ko is literally used to say a child child-men = boy. That's why onna no ko is a girl. Oshi no ko is the child of my oshi (the idol I support). Nothing to do with trans people or dresses.

If you want to say they call men in dresses boys, fair enough. but it does not mean man in a dress. I think the word you are looking for is probably okama
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annabloem said:
@Koyorides_

Clearly not if you think otoko no ko means man in a dress

Yes otoko is man. otoko no ko is a boy. no ko is literally used to say a child child-men = boy. That's why onna no ko is a girl. Oshi no ko is the child of my oshi (the idol I support). Nothing to do with trans people or dresses.

If you want to say they call men in dresses boys, fair enough. but it does not mean man in a dress. I think the word you are looking for is probably okama

There are several names to trans people in japan,and all of them indicate towards them being a man wearing a woman's dress
Im talking about mainly anime and this is a common theme throughout
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annabloem said:
@Koyorides_

Clearly not if you think otoko no ko means man in a dress

Yes otoko is man. otoko no ko is a boy. no ko is literally used to say a child child-men = boy. That's why onna no ko is a girl. Oshi no ko is the child of my oshi (the idol I support). Nothing to do with trans people or dresses.

If you want to say they call men in dresses boys, fair enough. but it does not mean man in a dress. I think the word you are looking for is probably okama

There are several names to trans people in japan,and all of them indicate towards them being a man wearing a woman's dress
Im talking about mainly anime and this is a common theme throughout
@Koyorides_

There are not that many names for trans people in Japan, and very few indicate anything about them wearing women's clothing. The technical term for transsexuality would be seibetsu henkan (which translates to change of sex). Transjendaa is also used.

In terms of rude/slang words you have okama, and okege. Okama is usually used in anime when they use transsexuality as a joke. It is also used to reger to effeminate men/ behaviour that is seen as girly.

If you mean that in general, men dressing up as women is used in comedy; definitely, but there's a distinct difference in men dressing up for comedy and being trans.

I'm not going to argue Japan is very trans positive, it isn't. But more in the sense that it isn't much of a topic that gets discussed, and when it does, most people don't care, because they let people be who they are. I'm sorry the terms used in Japan don't fit your bias.

TLDR: men dressing up as woman is used as a joke in japanese culture, yes. But they see this as fundamentally different from people being trans. If you don't see the difference, that's on you.
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annabloem said:
@Koyorides_

There are not that many names for trans people in Japan, and very few indicate anything about them wearing women's clothing. The technical term for transsexuality would be seibetsu henkan (which translates to change of sex). Transjendaa is also used.

In terms of rude/slang words you have okama, and okege. Okama is usually used in anime when they use transsexuality as a joke. It is also used to reger to effeminate men/ behaviour that is seen as girly.

If you mean that in general, men dressing up as women is used in comedy; definitely, but there's a distinct difference in men dressing up for comedy and being trans.

I'm not going to argue Japan is very trans positive, it isn't. But more in the sense that it isn't much of a topic that gets discussed, and when it does, most people don't care, because they let people be who they are. I'm sorry the terms used in Japan don't fit your bias.

TLDR: men dressing up as woman is used as a joke in japanese culture, yes. But they see this as fundamentally different from people being trans. If you don't see the difference, that's on you.

Yes there are less trans animes because japanese anime relies on its own audience not the west
It's also the reason why it still makes good stories,not some high IQ thing that you can't understand when you compare it with Hollywood titles
My own views on trans or any unbiological relationships kept aside, japan in general does see trans people or gay people for what they are
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@Koyorides_

There are not that many names for trans people in Japan, and very few indicate anything about them wearing women's clothing. The technical term for transsexuality would be seibetsu henkan (which translates to change of sex). Transjendaa is also used.

In terms of rude/slang words you have okama, and okege. Okama is usually used in anime when they use transsexuality as a joke. It is also used to reger to effeminate men/ behaviour that is seen as girly.

If you mean that in general, men dressing up as women is used in comedy; definitely, but there's a distinct difference in men dressing up for comedy and being trans.

I'm not going to argue Japan is very trans positive, it isn't. But more in the sense that it isn't much of a topic that gets discussed, and when it does, most people don't care, because they let people be who they are. I'm sorry the terms used in Japan don't fit your bias.

TLDR: men dressing up as woman is used as a joke in japanese culture, yes. But they see this as fundamentally different from people being trans. If you don't see the difference, that's on you.

Yes there are less trans animes because japanese anime relies on its own audience not the west
It's also the reason why it still makes good stories,not some high IQ thing that you can't understand when you compare it with Hollywood titles
My own views on trans or any unbiological relationships kept aside, japan in general does see trans people or gay people for what they are
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japan in general does see trans people or gay people for what they are


Which is?

But yes, Japanese anime focuses on it's own audience, most of Japan does not care about the world outside Japan at all. But you've clearly never read Japanese literature if you think pretentious high IQ stuff is a Hollywood thing and not found in Japan
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annabloem said:
Koyorides_ said:
japan in general does see trans people or gay people for what they are


Which is?

But yes, Japanese anime focuses on it's own audience, most of Japan does not care about the world outside Japan at all. But you've clearly never read Japanese literature if you think pretentious high IQ stuff is a Hollywood thing and not found in Japan

Men or women according to their biological gender
It's common in Asia and Africa
Im not saying animes do not have yuris or yaois or whatever,but it's a clear influence from the west because it wasn't that much popular as it is now
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ijavi said:
slugdirsh said:
The point of entertainment is to entertain, which this show has done well in so far. You’re overthinking it.

completely agree with you mate

This isn't entertainment tho,it's still a way for DC to remain relevant
It's one thing to say a story but desperate cashgrabs should not be respected
@Koyorides_


"but desperate cashgrabs should not be respected"

the reason why 99% of the anime that come out each season is made.

In order to attack Western production, the worst hypocrisies come out
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Ventus_S said:
Art seems good enough but not sure if the story gonna be anything deep, considering the source
Suicide Squad is a terrible movie / franchise in general, so to make a good story out of it might be a tall order.

True, although the anime is quite decent because of studio wit and authors who have written good mangas like re zero
@Koyorides_

what lol?
it is clear that the author of re zero has only seen the Suicide Squad films and has not read any albums.

The anime series presents the film version with all the strengths and weaknesses, even the other world is nothing new in comics.
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Raptor1986 said:
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"but desperate cashgrabs should not be respected"

the reason why 99% of the anime that come out each season is made.

In order to attack Western production, the worst hypocrisies come out

The difference between anime and western corporations is that one atleast brings out storytelling and one does it only for the sake of profit with cheap inclusivity sprinkled on top
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@Koyorides_

what lol?
it is clear that the author of re zero has only seen the Suicide Squad films and has not read any albums.

The anime series presents the film version with all the strengths and weaknesses, even the other world is nothing new in comics.

Even then the story is decent when it can become actually good,this is clear that DC themselves are trying to be safe edgy so that rider fans like you will come to defend them no matter what
Artist restrictions is going to end their hopes of making anime faster than they will understand
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title,a desperate cashgrab

Doesn't this describe most anime though?
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bro changed usernames. I wonder how many accounts and usernames this person goes through.
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@Koyorides_ "In anime trans people are otokonoko meaning men in female dresses"

"meaning men in female dresses"

Exactly, they are men in female dresses

But that's not what a trans is... That is what a otokonoko is, not a trans, as far as I know, it's people who one gender in another's body, or was it ones that just change their, or both, it's confusing, but sure as hell not what you said
@CrunchyCrobat @texasdes He doesn't know Japanese. Otokonoko means boy, not trans. He's clueless don't argue with him.
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