Mushoku Tensei II: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu Part 2 Episode 11 Discussion

Jun 24, 5:06 AM

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And with that, after 10+ years of smelling her panties, he finally gets it at the worst possible opportunity.

What a fucking trip it was. He went to save his parents. He returns with an arm missing, a dead father, a mentally disabled mother, and a new wife. Can't wait to see the reaction from the girls at home.

Jun 24, 5:18 AM

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very fascinating episode
challenging morals and political correctness
if all parties involved are happy, i wonder if it’s truly wrong?
how bad to think lol

Jun 24, 6:04 AM

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Rudeus was beyond sadness.
Roxy came in to comfort him as she thought she is the only one capable to "heal" Rudeus at that time.
Rudeus was in "vulnerable" state and they spent a night together.
Rudeus kept reminding himself to be faithful and Elinalise kinda encourage him to "marry" Roxy.
Now he will be asking Sylphiette who is currently pregnant for her permission to marry Roxy..
Truly following his father footstep.
I remember somewhere he kept blaming his father being not faithful and yet....
Too many morally wrong in this ep. I guess its norm in their isekai world.
Next ep is final.

Jun 24, 6:09 AM

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I'm gonna be honest, I felt worse seeing Roxy hurting than when Paul died. She's just so endearing. Especially when she says "Rudy" like she's prolonging the last syllable.

Jun 24, 6:25 AM

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AokiHan

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2 words "New Wife"

Jun 24, 6:39 AM

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14% hated this episode? what? it was great

Jun 24, 7:42 AM

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18927

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14% hated this episode? what? it was great

@Mr360AttAck It wasn't. Roxy went from being a shy but likable character to a lying bitch who took advantage of Rudy's depressed state to fuck him, despite knowing he has a wife and an unborn child. Falling in love with him because he saved her, especially in such a lame way, would never change her character that much. Defending this by some people is beyond ridiculous. Are you sad because your dad died? I'll fuck... sorry, "comfort" you. Their later conversation is straight-up outrageous. She'll give him an answer after he's received approval from Sylphy. Excuse me? Maybe wait for approval before you fuck him, bitch? I have nothing against polygamy in this world, but it wasn't executed in a proper and friendly way

Jun 24, 7:48 AM

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me when anime epicaly encourages bigamy
Yea it makes sense for the character and storry with how its been set up, i wont pretend it doesnt
But im not happy about it

Jun 24, 9:15 AM

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lessfull

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@Mr360AttAck It wasn't. Roxy went from being a shy but likable character to a lying bitch who took advantage of Rudy's depressed state to fuck him, despite knowing he has a wife and an unborn child. Falling in love with him because he saved her, especially in such a lame way, would never change her character that much. Defending this by some people is beyond ridiculous. Are you sad because your dad died? I'll fuck... sorry, "comfort" you. Their later conversation is straight-up outrageous. She'll give him an answer after he's received approval from Sylphy. Excuse me? Maybe wait for approval before you fuck him, bitch? I have nothing against polygamy in this world, but it wasn't executed in a proper and friendly way

18927 said:
It wasn't. Roxy went from being a shy but likable character to a lying bitch who took advantage of Rudy's depressed state to fuck him

From what I know, they fucked up badly in adaptation. Rudy was essentially a walking corpse for a month, almost no eating or drinking if no one forced him to. So Elinalise persuaded Roxy to give him a comfort, which is actually pretty understandable. At tought times physical intimacy is extremly soothing. So essentially Roxy even though did it for herself, she wouldn't do it if there were other way to help Rudy (she tried to talk sense to him for a month).
And after the deed they there much more sane and didn't do anything else.

Jun 24, 9:50 AM

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18927 said:
It wasn't. Roxy went from being a shy but likable character to a lying bitch who took advantage of Rudy's depressed state to fuck him

From what I know, they fucked up badly in adaptation. Rudy was essentially a walking corpse for a month, almost no eating or drinking if no one forced him to. So Elinalise persuaded Roxy to give him a comfort, which is actually pretty understandable. At tought times physical intimacy is extremly soothing. So essentially Roxy even though did it for herself, she wouldn't do it if there were other way to help Rudy (she tried to talk sense to him for a month).
And after the deed they there much more sane and didn't do anything else.

@lessfull
Clarification: It's not Elinalise who persuaded Roxy. There was a conversation where Geese asked Elinalise to help Rudeus by sleeping with him. Even tho she wanted to help him she refused because she didn't want to betray Cliff and ruin his marriage with Sylphie. Roxy heard the conversation and convinced herself that she can help Rudeus since others said it normally helps. In LN you could feel that she sacrificed her first time (it's a huge deal considering she is a hopeless romantic) fully aware she is most likely getting tossed aside after he gets better. So she was mostly gaslighted into doing the deed. In the anime without bar conversation scene prior and them completely changing the whole scene it really looks like she is there to jump at the chance rather than trying to help him without any regard about herself

EllifeinJun 24, 10:05 AM

Jun 24, 9:55 AM

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@lessfull
Clarification: It's not Elinalise who persuaded Roxy. There was a conversation where Geese asked Elinalise to help Rudeus by sleeping with him. Even tho she wanted to help him she refused because she didn't want to betray Cliff and ruin his marriage with Sylphie. Roxy heard the conversation and convinced herself that she can help Rudeus since others said it normally helps. In LN you could feel that she sacrificed her first time (it's a huge deal considering she is a hopeless romantic) fully aware she is most likely getting tossed aside after he gets better. So she was mostly gaslighted into doing the deed. In the anime without bar conversation scene prior and them completely changing the whole scene it really looks like she is there to jump at the chance rather than trying to help him without any regard about herself

@Ellifein Jeez, now I don't like how it went in anime even more :(

Jun 24, 10:03 AM

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@Ellifein Jeez, now I don't like how it went in anime even more :(

@lessfull Yea,believe me i am not happy about it either.
This was the episode that I was looking to the most cause the chapter legit had made me cry when I was reading it especially his talk about Paul and realization that he missed his parents from the old world and will never have the chance to visit their grave
I really don't understand why they cut the bar scene,it's such an important one and would only take a minute or two at most while explaining Roxy motivation and give another look at the complexity of Elinalise character

If you are interested how it was described in LN scroll back to my previous messages,I had quotes there

EllifeinJun 24, 10:28 AM

Jun 24, 10:08 AM

#263

Alzeana

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This episode made me uncomfortable as hell.

10/10

Jun 24, 10:36 AM

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Cinema, cinema cinema cinema 🚬🗣🗣🗣‼‼‼

It left me speechless, I didn't even realize that 20 minutes had already passed hahaha

Jun 24, 10:44 AM

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@Mr360AttAck It wasn't. Roxy went from being a shy but likable character to a lying bitch who took advantage of Rudy's depressed state to fuck him, despite knowing he has a wife and an unborn child. Falling in love with him because he saved her, especially in such a lame way, would never change her character that much. Defending this by some people is beyond ridiculous. Are you sad because your dad died? I'll fuck... sorry, "comfort" you. Their later conversation is straight-up outrageous. She'll give him an answer after he's received approval from Sylphy. Excuse me? Maybe wait for approval before you fuck him, bitch? I have nothing against polygamy in this world, but it wasn't executed in a proper and friendly way

@18927 Understandable opinion. She took advantage which is true. But, Rudeus was depressed and also have a hunger strike there. Something needs to be done. You can totally argue she can just talked with him which she had done by the way or give him some food, but seeing his situation, he doesn't seem to want to listen to anyone, not even his goddess. She did what she did and after that he started moving again probably the end result of what she intended anyway, I see as she try to support him to fill the loss in his heart as a stopgap and she okay with being that. The actions of Roxy actually have a lot of nuance that didn't portrayed as good as it supposed to be. Probably due to a lot of contents being cut. How I really hope they put an extended runtime for this episode alone.

As for things after, I think pretty much as intended context-wise, agreeable or not is still up in the air as like the other questionable contents in previous episodes.

Edit: not to justify anything just to bring up that Roxy's intention is never one dimensional.

niknasrJun 24, 11:01 AM

I cannot bring myself to rate anime that I have completed below 5. Well, it just because I have use up my precious time to watch it. so, the worse you will get from me is 5 (changes may apply)

Jun 24, 10:49 AM

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Iron47

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2nd wife arc is peak

I LOVE AQUA!!!

Jun 24, 10:59 AM

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Yeah I don't know how to feel about that. But it is only fiction, so it was good xD

“Do what feels right in your heart. You will be criticized either way.” (Eleanor Roosevelt)

Jun 24, 11:12 AM

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Aokiw

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ADULTERIO É O CARALHO

Jun 24, 12:49 PM

#269

MashuHachi

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ayooo roxy??? rudy got tons of explaining to do once he gets home lol

why am i so well drawn into time travel stories?
do i really have that many regrets?

Jun 24, 1:27 PM

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@Gabu-sama bro it's just one episode, you do realize there is a reason for the damn 1 vote being available right? if people only watched and loved everything why the need for a voting system at all?

@StateofOhayo My bad, I interpreted that you were one of the people coming back every week just to drop a 1 and talk shit.

Jun 24, 2:30 PM

#271

DoobieSam

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I do not like what Roxy did at all

Jun 24, 3:00 PM

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KelvinNazrey said:
fuck mannn this episode bad af, i think this is the worst episode adaptation, they cut a lot important stuff and they show a bad one, fuckkkkk i never dissapointment like this, the worst episode in the entire MT tbh,

Mannnn they cut a fucking lot even rudy monolog even like Rudy monolog about Paul and his parent and rudy tell about his past life to roxy, why they should focus on roxy but they not even show it good like novel, mann i hope i can punch the person who write the script for this episode.

i cant even watch this episode for 5 min, i really dissapointing, this episode should solved about all issue like Rudy relationship with his parent, Roxy situation etc, but they show noneeeeeeeeee, fckkkkkkkkkkk

I cant even read this post without my eyes bleeding, thanks for being cringe as fuck. Keep yourself safe

Jun 24, 3:20 PM

#273

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I would like to see someday a spin off about Roxy´s adventures while she was away trying to rescue Paul´s family, she literally went through so many hardships but is not mentioned a lot in the anime.
She went through a lot, poor girl.
And never had a "peace" moment since Rudeus was transported to other place.
Rudeus and Roxy need each other, I can´t imagine Rudeus without Roxy. Or Roxy without Rudeus.
Sad to think there is only one episode left.

Jun 24, 3:23 PM

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I would like to see someday a spin off about Roxy´s adventures while she was away trying to rescue Paul´s family, she literally went through so many hardships but is not mentioned a lot in the anime.
She went through a lot, poor girl.
And never had a "peace" moment since Rudeus was transported to other place.
Rudeus and Roxy need each other, I can´t imagine Rudeus without Roxy. Or Roxy without Rudeus.
Sad to think there is only one episode left.

@Mione48 I haven't read it so don't know if it is what you've asked for, but here you go: https://myanimelist.net/manga/115498/Mushoku_Tensei__Roxy_datte_Honki_desu

Jun 24, 3:27 PM

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@Mione48 I haven't read it so don't know if it is what you've asked for, but here you go: https://myanimelist.net/manga/115498/Mushoku_Tensei__Roxy_datte_Honki_desu

@lessfull Oh my God!! Is a manga?? I hope it will be anime someday,thank you!!

Jun 24, 3:59 PM

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@StateofOhayo My bad, I interpreted that you were one of the people coming back every week just to drop a 1 and talk shit.

@Gabu-sama It's okay; if there are people like that then F 'em honestly, there are shows I love dearly and still give bad reviews to some episodes, I mean I'm not trying to push my ideals or beliefs on anyone else but you know some episodes I love, some I don't, that's just how it goes but yeah if people rank a 1 on every episode you gotta ask why they're still around. I'm sorry I don't always rank episodes or give comments so I didn't know about the review bombs. I sincerely didn't like this episode but loved other ones. I just don't know why people would target this show specifically.

Jun 24, 5:00 PM

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Roxy began a broken romance with Rudy. It's one of the realest, but most somber loves to have. Rudy also sees himself becoming Paul. A fantastic aftermath. I'm eager for the next episode!

Jun 24, 6:46 PM

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macrod25

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"Whaddaya know? We are the same..."

That last line broke me.....

Jun 24, 7:07 PM

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Happy second wife!

My Candies:

Jun 24, 8:08 PM

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Interesting episode, I hope I can express my thoughts well.

Roxy knew that Rudeus was or is in a weak physical/psychological state and clearly took advantage of that situation but not to hurt him or anyone else, I think in her own way she wanted to help him (sexual way hahaha) and to be with the person she loves for a moment
Both she and Rudeus are not free of guilt, both knew what they were doing but with all the bad that exists it is not the worst, I clarify that this does not mean that what they did was right or that it justifies it... it is simply not the worst
I don't think it's necessary to clarify why it was wrong what happened, but just in case I clarify that Rudeus pledged full loyalty to Sylphie and Roxy knew about it.... point
Now the issue of having more than one wife, I don't care as long as they ALL know and agree, they can do what they want with their lives as long as they don't hurt others or themselves

PS: We will see what Sylphie thinks, she already knew what Rudeus is like so maybe she is prepared for such a situation

Jun 24, 8:35 PM

#281

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I cried 😢 what a masterpiece

Jun 24, 9:00 PM

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LangleyAsuka

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Can't believe Rudeus said "Oh fuck, after this extended defense of the ethicacity of polygamy and the clarification its widespread social acceptance, it can't be helped, guess I'll have to get two wives then.

Jun 24, 9:06 PM

#283

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After an incredible and splendid chapter 10 of this part 2 of the second season of Mushoku Tensei, everyone comes to a horrible chapter 11 where Rudeus is unfaithful to Sylphitte with Roxy, and the anime romanticizes it so stupidly that it is laughable.

APPLAUSE TO MUSHOKU TENSEI FOR ROMANTICIZING AND ENCOURAGING INFIDELITY!!

(Not to mention that it ruins all the development and redemption that Rudeus had until now...)

Jun 24, 9:53 PM

#284

Accelise_

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My man is ready to explore Roxy's dungeon

lettuce<3

Jun 24, 10:32 PM

#285

Unoriginality

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Wow this episode is really that controversial.

Jun 24, 10:46 PM

#286

Kiryotsu

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The junxtaposition of this episode is really doleful...

Jun 25, 3:03 AM

#287

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man's come a long way from worshipping roxy's panties to getting inside them.

i've always wanted this to happen and i want even eris added to the count if we ever get to meet her.

i wonder how sylphie's gonna react. i mean roxy and sylphie aren't total strangers for one. would be really interesting.

The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama.
Feeling half happy, half sad.

Kawaii waifus
and precious
best girls <3333

Jun 25, 7:01 AM

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Can anyone even blame Roxy? A player's gotta play and if opportunity presents itself, well, you gotta grab it by the balls. Plus, look at it this way, we can get a threesome episode now.

Jun 25, 8:56 AM

#289

davidyodo24

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Oh my god this episode!!
This has to be one of the most controversial episode of Mushoku Tensei right??

Elinalise be like: have you heard about Polygamy?? LMAO

Bruhh WTF Rudy??
Why not just add Eris to your Harem huh???

So in the end, like father like son.
They are the same 😭

davidyodo24Jun 25, 6:44 PM

Jun 25, 9:29 AM

#290

MiamoreCash

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Probably the worst episode of Mushoku Tensei so far. Rudeus didn't stop for even a second to think about his pregnant wife and just straight up cheated on her with Roxy. It doesn't matter if she took advantage of him, he's a grown-up, married man and should take responsibility for his actions, but we all know that he never truly will. He'll get his harem where everyone will be loved "equally" and everyone will live happily ever after. Such bullshit.

Jun 25, 9:50 AM

#291

pansz

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cool episode, I really like Sylphie, but I love Roxy too much

Jun 25, 10:04 AM

#292

icathiano

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In episode 11 the protagonist cheats on his wife.

Jun 25, 10:40 AM

#293

Yuna03

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Nice, emotional and sad

Jun 25, 10:56 AM

#294

Ranxomare

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Harem time? Amazing, he didn´t lost the time!!!
kekeke

Jun 25, 11:34 AM

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Lubatori

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CÓMO LE VAS A METER LOS CUERNOS A SYLPH ASÍ

Jun 25, 12:43 PM

#296

Domeey6

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Fck that peace of gargabe mc

Jun 25, 3:16 PM

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JuanPBM

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I'm really angry with Rudeus. That's it. That's the reasoning behind my score. Nothing wrong with the episode itself I guess, but I need to express my disappointment somewhere.

Jun 25, 3:23 PM

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CosmicJobo

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bro............

Jun 25, 3:31 PM

#299

huzlie

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Holy fuck I haven't cringed like this for a long time

So basically Roxy came to a dude who just lost his father, knowing well that he's married and waiting for a child, said a bunch of comforting things and fucked him because she's selfish. Rudy didn't stop her, didn't blame himself once for doing this, forgot about his dead dad cause he down bad.

It's been a 7 for me before this episode, now it's barely a 5.

Jun 25, 3:34 PM

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@Mr360AttAck It wasn't. Roxy went from being a shy but likable character to a lying bitch who took advantage of Rudy's depressed state to fuck him, despite knowing he has a wife and an unborn child. Falling in love with him because he saved her, especially in such a lame way, would never change her character that much. Defending this by some people is beyond ridiculous. Are you sad because your dad died? I'll fuck... sorry, "comfort" you. Their later conversation is straight-up outrageous. She'll give him an answer after he's received approval from Sylphy. Excuse me? Maybe wait for approval before you fuck him, bitch? I have nothing against polygamy in this world, but it wasn't executed in a proper and friendly way

@18927 trueeeeee

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