| Seems like japanese media in general is more perverted than other countries’ media like western. They even have established genres like ecchi and harem when in western media we don’t use or market those tags. Other media has sex comedies and stuff like that as well, but it’s more of a niche thing; in japanese anime, it’s a major genre. Is anime too perverted? ADD-ON: A lot of people seem to say that there is actually more sex going on in western media in general. But to me, there seems to be more fetish stuff going on in anime. Panty shots. Boob groping. Hot spring episodes. Fetishized school uniforms and swimsuits. Character designs and personality tropes. The list goes on. I would say that fetish stuff like this are far more perverted than actual censored or behind-the-scenes sex happening in western media. |
skapuppetFeb 2, 2023 1:56 PM
| Idk, I see plenty of horny stuff happening on western TV shows all the time. |
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| Almost every tv show has people having sex in them so I don't know about that. |
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| Western media is more open about sex than any other media. |
| Rosa Umineko Drip The Witch of Badassery. |
| I personally dislike the overruse of the same uncreative dirty jokes. "Haha funny, his nose is bleeding and you can see her rack." I love dirty humor but most animes keep using the same gimmicks. Prison School had an extreme amount of dirty jokes but it was funny because they had more creativity. On the other side, the use of "fan-service" in Fire Force was aboslutely distasteful. |
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| It's more perverted than my nation's media, that's for sure. Even though we were notorious for having topless 'Page 3' Girls in some of our Daily papers (only one of them still does that). My Country has gone very censor-heavy over the years. |
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| Western media is much more perverted...... |
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| There is this HBO TV show called The Deuce, nothing in anime comes close to that. |
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| too pedoey too. completely obsessed with sexualizing (pre) pubescent children. especially girls. and their shoving it down our throats too. |
| I say it's not perverted enough, we barely see some sensual scenes and gods forbid we see panties and nipples |
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| Yes and no. I think anime is more associated with being horny by the public than other media. I mean, hot anime girls, hentai, and other "perverted" anime type stuff is literally a part of meme culture. Sexual fanservice is kind of associated with the image of anime, despite there being plenty of anime that aren't like that. That being said, I do also think that the culture around anime, whether it be just the anime community or Japan itself, are a lot more accepting of such types of content. There is plenty of sexual fanservice in western media, whether it be sex comedies, beach movie type stuff, adult shows, and even some cartoons (most of which being in shows targeting teenage boys, such as super hero shows). However, particularly in cartoons, it is more scarce, and often not as explicit. And there certainly aren't genres such as ecchi. I don't think there is much demand for a show solely about fanservice in western media. Anime seems to be the only media where sexual fanservice is fully embraced, and considered its own genre. I'm not an expert on this or anything, and there are prob some shows or niche genres in western media that I don't know about. But I think the fact that I don't know much about perverted western media, yet I very quickly came into contact with sexual fanservice type content in anime, shows something about anime. I'm answering yes and no, mainly because while sexual fanservice seems to be more embraced by anime, it certainly exists in western media too, anime often gets all the blame for fanservice despite this. Edit: There is also a difference between western fanservice and anime fanservice. Western media is more open about sex, yet is less willing to sexualize characters. Obviously, the kinds of sexual content you will run into in these medias will be different because of this. So, trying to compare them is kinda hard anyways. |
fyrflysFeb 2, 2023 12:36 PM
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| Yes. You know it's bad when even anime like One Punch Man that are overall well received have grown women looking like children. |
| Certain characters maybe. But as a whole, western media is way more perverted than anime. Especially since in anime it’s usually presented as perversion (eg: nobody watches BnHA and thinks mineta is someone to emulate) whereas in western media it’s often presented as the norm. |
skapuppet said: Seems like japanese media in general is more perverted than other countries’ media like western. They even have established genres like ecchi and harem when in western media we don’t use or market those tags. Other media has sex comedies and stuff like that as well, but it’s more of a niche thing; in japanese anime, it’s a major genre. Is anime too perverted? As someone who has been exposed to Japanese media all throughout my life, Japan is far more lax particularly with women's panties being shown even for live action TV shows made for kids. I remember watching a TV show in Japan in the 80s called "Space Sheriff Shaider" where the actress "Naomi Morinaga" played the role of a girl named "Annie" who was the classmate of one of the main character of the series. In almost every episode she was in you would get to see her panties shown briefly in almost every action scene she was in.   Simply seeing a girls underwear on Japanese TV being briefly flashed was no big deal. Anime is no more perverted than it has always been. Japanese live action TV and movies use to be far more perverse than they are today. |
ColourWheelFeb 2, 2023 1:33 PM
| Nope, most anime are pretty tame even stuff like To Love Ru. |
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| What anime are you watching? Depends on the series as well as the tastes of the individual. Take Ikkitousen, perversion is the focus, with fights being second and third being story. However, there are series like Kaiji that avoid any "perversion". |
| You could say it is.. Considering viewers complain about it as much as they do.. In my experience shows from other countries tend to show sexual elements when it serves the narrative or a character's development.. Its purpose is not always to titillate.. And it is not necessarily made in a way to appeal to a (very) specific viewer demographic.. Japanese animated works on the other hand tend to use it to an obsessive degree.. Revolving much of their themes, narrative and even characterizations around it.. Sometimes having sexual elements in practically every scene.. And its purpose is almost always to titillate the viewer.. I'm guessing it's because the Japanese Animation Industry caters predominantly to a heterosexual (male) viewerbase.. Whereas the entertainment industries in other countries tend to appeal to other demographics as well.. |
| See, the real question is: Why isn't anime more perverted ? |
| I'd say anime is easily more perverted/deviant than western media as a whole, but I wouldn't say it is "too perverted", because that implies I want it to be less so. Anime is fine the way it is. The medium scratches a lot of itches. There is a lot of perverted anime out there (most anime has some level of echhiness in it), but there's also a lot of anime that have no perverted/deviant elements. If you're sick and tired of consuming perverted stuff in anime, I reckon you search out the more mature series. |
tchitchouan said: See, the real question is: Why isn't anime more perverted ? You are right my friend, anime needs more ecchi. In my mere opinion, "perverted" can mean different things to different people... In the opinion of some fanatics a few seconds lesbian kiss in a cartoon is the end of humanity and for others a panty shot is deadly. |
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| I've seen music videos that are at least 90% filled with ass right in your face. Compared to that, most fan service I've seen is tame. |
Absurdo_N said: lol, who thought that a small and wholesome and pure lesbian kiss could get people so upset, that's like nothing. if i were in charge of an anime i would make all my female characters raging lesbians who have sudden urges to kiss and fondle each other every minute or so for no apparent reason, they're just like that.tchitchouan said: See, the real question is: Why isn't anime more perverted ? You are right my friend, anime needs more ecchi. In my mere opinion, "perverted" can mean different things to different people... In the opinion of some fanatics a few seconds lesbian kiss in a cartoon is the end of humanity and for others a panty shot is deadly. |
tchitchouan said: Absurdo_N said: lol, just a wholesome and pure lesbian, that's like nothing. if i were in charge in anime i would make all my characters raging lesbians who have sudden urges to kiss and fondle each other every minute or so. You are right my friend, anime needs more ecchi. In my mere opinion, "perverted" can mean different things to different people... In the opinion of some fanatics a few seconds lesbian kiss in a cartoon is the end of humanity and for others a panty shot is deadly. Beautiful words, I wanted more anime like this. |
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| I'd argue it's not perverted enough. We almost never see anime as degenerate as we once did like with the To-Love-Ru Franchise. The only thing that has replicated that to a smaller degree was Megami-ryou no Ryoubo-kun. which mind you came out back in 2021 |
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| no it is perfectly balanced, as all things should be |
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| I think people grossly exaggerate the perversity of anime. You won't be exposed to it unless you go looking for it. the majority of my 250 completed are pretty much clean. The ones that aren't completely pristine, the pervy content is relatively tame. But don't misunderstand, it's not as if I drop anime the moment it shows boob physics or anything, baka. Some shows can have that and still manage to be wholesome. |
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| Western media will always be more sexual and perverted than Japanese media. Starting off, Japanese porn literally has censorship. |
"Nobody could laugh at someone who's trying their hardest" -Machio- |
| when even your hentai is censored... |
| i think the problem is that japan does it in a way that it's distasteful a good example is using a character that's clearly too young to be used as "fan service material" showing some 14 year old's underwear or something :/ |
skapuppet said: Seems like japanese media in general is more perverted than other countries’ media like western. Depends on the country but you're probably from USA and don't know better. There is nudity and sexual content here on TV all the time even during daytime and it's probably the same for most European countries. |
| Anime isn't perverted enough, it should go far and further beyond the current point it is at. IMO saying that anime is too perverted just means your weak and don't know true perversion |
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luminouspaint said: To me, and a lot of other people I imagine there is no problem with thisi think the problem is that japan does it in a way that it's distasteful a good example is using a character that's clearly too young to be used as "fan service material" showing some 14 year old's underwear or something :/ of course there'll always be people who want to consume content which sexualizes any age of anime gals or boys and for those who don't they can simply not watch them I mean it's a win for everyone really |
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| Nah. I mean, there's plenty of perverted stuff happening in anime, but I don't think it's out of place too often. Ecchi deserves to exist, and there's non-ecchi anime that use ecchi fanservice in a reasonable manner. There are sometimes that it's uncalled for, but that isn't the bulk of the lewd stuff happening in anime. |
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luminouspaint said: All I'm seeing is someone who can't separate cartoon fiction from reality, because the reality makes them uncomfortable. i think the problem is that japan does it in a way that it's distasteful a good example is using a character that's clearly too young to be used as "fan service material" showing some 14 year old's underwear or something :/ |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Yuu_Kanzaki said: That's a terrible argument, Japan has some truly NSFL porn, all because they need to compensate for said censorship. Western media will always be more sexual and perverted than Japanese media. Starting off, Japanese porn literally has censorship. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: i'm not tho... 💀 i'm just against pedophilia lmao just bc it's not "real" doesn't mean it's not feeding the idea of pedophilia but if u like seeing it go ahead nobody stopping uluminouspaint said: All I'm seeing is someone who can't separate cartoon fiction from reality, because the reality makes them uncomfortable. i think the problem is that japan does it in a way that it's distasteful a good example is using a character that's clearly too young to be used as "fan service material" showing some 14 year old's underwear or something :/ |
luminouspaint said: Boring. You're just reskinning a decades old "video games cause violence" argument. Your logic is antithetical to the entire concept of sexual fantasy. LostSpectre said: i'm not tho... 💀 i'm just against pedophilia lmao just bc it's not "real" doesn't mean it's not feeding the idea of pedophilia but if u like seeing it go ahead nobody stopping uAll I'm seeing is someone who can't separate cartoon fiction from reality, because the reality makes them uncomfortable. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
luminouspaint said: What he^ said. If you were born in the 60s, you would have been in the "video games cause violence" gang.LostSpectre said: i'm not tho... 💀 i'm just against pedophilia lmao just bc it's not "real" doesn't mean it's not feeding the idea of pedophilia but if u like seeing it go ahead nobody stopping uAll I'm seeing is someone who can't separate cartoon fiction from reality, because the reality makes them uncomfortable. |
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| In quantity and overall I would say yes, but the content is more explicit in western media. |
| I think anime is more fetishistic but also more prude than general media. For better or for worse there is a special anime culture around how sexual scenarios play out in anime but to answer your question, I actually think most anime is very tame with this stuff. |
LostSpectre said: idk why y'all so mad that i used an example concerning kids lol there are better things to worry about + it's a slippery slope to think that one logic will apply to anotherluminouspaint said: Boring. You're just reskinning a decades old "video games cause violence" argument. Your logic is antithetical to the entire concept of sexual fantasy. i'm not tho... 💀 i'm just against pedophilia lmao just bc it's not "real" doesn't mean it's not feeding the idea of pedophilia but if u like seeing it go ahead nobody stopping u Say-My-Name said: What he^ said. If you were born in the 60s, you would have been in the "video games cause violence" gang. i never said it'll directly affect everyone for presenting fanservice like that but it's still not a good influence anyway also i thought this forum was supposed to be for discussions but y'all are just shitting on ppl for having different opinions lol |
luminouspaint said: There is no slippery slope, it's the same rudimentary logic as far as fantasy is concerned. There's nothing to discuss, your argument is objectively flawed. LostSpectre said: idk why y'all so mad that i used an example concerning kids lol there are better things to worry about + it's a slippery slope to think that one logic will apply to anotherBoring. You're just reskinning a decades old "video games cause violence" argument. Your logic is antithetical to the entire concept of sexual fantasy. i never said it'll directly affect everyone for presenting fanservice like that but it's still not a good influence anyway also i thought this forum was supposed to be for discussions but y'all are just shitting on ppl for having different opinions lol |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| That's like asking "are men too tall?" while ignoring the fact short men exist. Just look at shoujo series and (most) kid's shows. And you're claiming western media has no fetishy stuff when Totally Spies is infamous for it.  |
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