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Dec 9, 2022 3:22 PM
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Something that's funny and a joke in anime but would very likely get a series banned in America or Europe.

I'd say 99% of romance anime tropes. Men in drag as a joke probably wouldn't fly.

The big one i see some, but not relatively common is the relationship between Lucoa and Shouta from Dragon Maid or Aki and Sunohara in Sunohara House. It's pretty funny but a writer in America doing this storyline would very likely not get away with it.
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Dec 9, 2022 3:28 PM
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The existence of strong perverted old men never exists in western media.
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Dec 9, 2022 3:36 PM
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Stealing bras and panties as a recurrent joke wouldn't fly well in the west.
Dec 9, 2022 3:55 PM
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Definitely skirt flipping (deliberately). Don't even think I've seen that in anything other than Anime.
Dec 9, 2022 4:17 PM
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Anything loli related and probably anything to do with little sister complex stuff

So pretty much eromanga sensei lol
Dec 9, 2022 4:17 PM
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Actor Tom Hanks got his start in a sitcom about cross dressing you know. Maybe today it would ruffle some feathers but it wasn't always this way.

Anyway, age gap romance is not something you can really get away with over here. Especially ones between a teacher and a student. I've seen teacher x student pop up in more than just a few anime and it's weird how it's never really portrayed as an issue. Cardcaptor Sakura is a notable example.
Dec 9, 2022 4:30 PM
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epidemia78 said:
Actor Tom Hanks got his start in a sitcom about cross dressing you know. Maybe today it would ruffle some feathers but it wasn't always this way.

Anyway, age gap romance is not something you can really get away with over here. Especially ones between a teacher and a student. I've seen teacher x student pop up in more than just a few anime and it's weird how it's never really portrayed as an issue. Cardcaptor Sakura is a notable example.


I agree with this one. Mainly some attributes of teacher-student relationships that is very prevalent among most shoujo back then. Other examples are Fruits Basket and Marmalade Boy.
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Dec 9, 2022 4:35 PM
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Some jokes/tropes don't fly all that well in Japan either, although as a matter of fact Otaku culture in general is quite looked down upon in Japan. The "x complex jokes" always seem more like insults than jokes, mother complex jokes might as well be deep social commentary, considering how prevalent it apparently is in Japan.

The reason why the "loli content" an afterthought of the moe culture even flies is because of creators fighting for freedom of expression, and even then it barely flies above the forthcoming censorship laws, none of this would fly in the "west" because the laws are stricter.

Some of the jokes/tropes in older anime don't really appear all that much in new anime, like the "pervy old man" and "pantie stealing" jokes/tropes, although it's not like these tropes/jokes were depicted as good things even then. Although if you look at old American movies they weren't all that much different, all things have context. Kind of reminds me of how the City Hunter Movie: Shinjuku Private Eyes even jokes about the "Mokkori" jokes being out of style. Although even the old City Hunter anime censors some of the content from the manga. If you also look at Lupin III from the 60's to now, Lupin III's on screen antics have somewhat calmed down recently.

I never personally saw the men in drag thing as anything all that funny, and don't even know if it's supposed to be something for the audience to laugh about. From what I can remember even before the 2000's there are anime that treat these elements of the story with respect, even as important plot elements. Although humor in general isn't all that "funny", if all you do is punch down.

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When a boy act all girly and other characters call him 'one' which means a sissy man basically.

Or anything that involves the 2 real scientific genders, sexual orientations, age, age gap.
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Dec 9, 2022 7:15 PM

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epidemia78 said:
Anyway, age gap romance is not something you can really get away with over here. Especially ones between a teacher and a student.

I agree. I've seen students crushing on their teachers, but an actual relationship was treated as scandalous when it happened in Mean Girls.

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Men in drag as a joke probably wouldn't fly.

The Fairly OddParents did it.

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Dec 9, 2022 7:25 PM

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Slapping/other. This may be used as comedy, but no way you could get away with it in the west.







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Dec 10, 2022 12:36 AM

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Men in a drag isn't that uncommon even in modern TV shows or movies. Only real difference I guess is instead of the joke being "oh shit I thought you were a woman, now I'm disgusted" it's either dude doesn't look good just weird or drag stage character.
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Actor_Irelend719 said:
Mainly some attributes of teacher-student relationships that is very prevalent among most shoujo back then. Other examples are Sailor Moon, Fruits Basket, and Marmalade Boy.

There was a teacher-student relationship in Sailor Moon? I don't remember there being such a relationship.
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Gorilla jokes... Lebum lames will have you ejected and cry for 3 decades
 

Dec 10, 2022 2:28 AM

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everything, almost every comedy anime trope there is
Dec 10, 2022 2:34 AM

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I want everything that's acceptable in anime/manga to magically be acceptable in the U.S.

I want to see school girl figurines and loli manga on shelves, etc.
Dec 10, 2022 3:03 AM
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I want everything that's acceptable in anime/manga to magically be acceptable in the U.S.


i'm afraid it doesn't work that way, historical and cultural values are what dictate what's acceptable or not in a given society.
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i'm afraid it doesn't work that way, historical and cultural values are what dictate what's acceptable or not in a given society.

That's why I said magically.

That or force people who disagree to leave the country and move to other countries.
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Tanya852 said:
Actor_Irelend719 said:
Mainly some attributes of teacher-student relationships that is very prevalent among most shoujo back then. Other examples are Sailor Moon, Fruits Basket, and Marmalade Boy.

There was a teacher-student relationship in Sailor Moon? I don't remember there being such a relationship.

I think that's meant to be a comment on age gaps. Sailor Moon is younger than her boyfriend, and the gap is larger in the classic anime than the manga.
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Dec 10, 2022 12:13 PM

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TheBlockernator said:
What's a joke or trope common in anime that you could never get away with in The West?


Basically all the perverted humor revolving around the sexual humiliation of female characters in even the typical PG-13 seasonals across all genres.

Anime is the only Medium were you will have girls groping each others breasts, guys walking into a room while one of the female cast members is changing, even simply a situation where a girls panties is exposed to another character. This is regardless if the scenes are explicit or not because sometimes it's just implied where only the character gets an eye full of anything.

This is not something that one can typically find happening often in western mediums.
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A lot of stuff being mentioned here was/is acceptable in the 'west', just not very popular anymore

tchitchouan said:
Stealing bras and panties as a recurrent joke wouldn't fly well in the west.


panty-stealing was a very popular recurring joke in american 80s movies, like revenge of the nerds and the subsequent copycats. A lot of the pervy 'anime' tropes have been done in stoner comedies, 80s teen movies, sitcoms etc. as well, I think it's more a matter of those jokes going out of style with audiences in recent years since they've been done to death (how many 'hot tub time machine' and 'the hangover' movies are there)

epidemia78 said:
Actor Tom Hanks got his start in a sitcom about cross dressing you know. Maybe today it would ruffle some feathers but it wasn't always this way.

Anyway, age gap romance is not something you can really get away with over here. Especially ones between a teacher and a student. I've seen teacher x student pop up in more than just a few anime and it's weird how it's never really portrayed as an issue. Cardcaptor Sakura is a notable example.


teacher-student relationships were pretty commonplace in mid 2000s teen shows, pretty little liars and degrassi both have student/teacher relationships that were played straight (i.e., not condemmed by the narrative). buffy might've as well (not sure). nowadays i think it'd be more controversial though, but shows like riverdale (i think) have had student/teacher relationships pretty recently, it's definitely falling out of fashion though

the whole sister complex or lolicon thing in anime would be the main one i'd say wouldn't fly in western countries- but it doesn't really fly in Japan either. the average japanese person isn't an otaku, and they'd find anime tropes as childish or as uncomfortable as the average western person. if there was a trope that REALLY would get a series banned in the west, it wouldn't be licensed and distributed in western countries in the first place, i don't think the standards between japan and western countries are all that different, the question is the difference between otaku/non-otaku audiences, which are pretty similar in both parts of the world for the most part.

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