The Devil Is a Part-Timer! (light novel)
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Maou x Emi
77.8%
546
Maou x Chiho
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156
702 votes
Jun 22, 2022 12:18 PM
#51
IFA1 said: . So, now I'm stuck with how to remove/delete "Plan to Watch" status from my Anime list for the Second season. BTW, is there any way to do so? 1. If you're using browser on mobile device. Go to that Anime page. Press the status list. You'll see "Edit Detailed Info", click on it, then there will be a "delete" option. Click on it and it'll ask whether you want to delete that series or not. Confirm and it's done. 2. On Desktop, Go to the Anime page. Below the main Anime poster to the left, you'll see "Edit Details". Click on it, rest is the same.. |
ShadowXBlasterJun 22, 2022 12:33 PM
Jun 22, 2022 12:20 PM
#52
Jun 26, 2022 11:21 PM
#53
| The Anime won’t get that far |
Jun 26, 2022 11:34 PM
#54
Mattinator95 said: To Be Honest, I don't care anymore. It's one of the series I've decided to leave behind...The Anime won’t get that far |
Jun 27, 2022 8:21 PM
#55
| tbh i was shipping alciel and maou the whole time with maou and emi as an acceptable backup (gay people are used to the ship they like best not being endgame so i'm still gonna watch the season lol) I agree chiho's whole deal feels like a highschool crush. not to mention the questionable morals of a practically immortal being paired with a minor. interesting that no one brought that up 🤨📷 I know its just a couple years between emi and chiho which is why i'm also hesitant with emi/maou but to be fair anime sexualizing minors and having morally questionable relationships isnt anything new. but yeah im excited for a new season! i just found out about it!! i've loved this anime for so long so im psyched |
Jun 30, 2022 11:05 AM
#56
| Honestly i didn't care with which girl Mao would had end up except one thing, not Chiho, any other character but not Chiho, because she is the worst character, a uninsteresting, childlish, jealous, possesive character, i honestly hated her. But i had the intuition than the author would go that way at the moment where Chiho got her bullshit power to do her intervention against Gabriel. It's was a litteral bullshit shut you're mouth it's magic deus ex machina moment and the author make me laugh on how he ridiculized himself trying to justify this bullshit. "It's because Chiho is frequently in contact with Mao" Yes nice job, in that case everyone at Mao job have magic power, Emi best friend have magic power, every one at Emi job have magic power. That shit didn't had any sense, any logical explanation, it's was just a deus ex machina to keep Chiho "relevant" because she was starting to falling behind. At this moment as a creator of lore myself in RPG(Paper RPG) my writing intuition told me "Oh no it's smell like a bullshit ending is in his way". And surprise i was right, the worst is that the author actually made a whole dev between Emi and Maou later, make him get more and more closer from each other and clearly was leading to Emi x Maou even for people that wasn't rooting for Emi but at the end no. Bullshit out of nowhere Chiho come back and get put with Mao. The Author receive death threat for this, it's something that shouldn't happens but in my country we have a quote that say "You shouldn't shoot the ambulance, but sometimes the ambulance is really looking for it" And it's exactly what happens, sometime Japanese writer, this one or the one with the 5 twin manga, seems to really look for trouble. Because i will say this, as a writer or creator, no you can't do whatever you want, specially the way the author of Hataraku did. He litterally show to everyone a ending and specially to the fan of the Emi ship what they wanted to see and give them hope before taking it back Respect it's a two way road and he litterally spit at their face, shouldn't be surprised to get shoot after. For me it's really look like Chiho is a self insert High School crush of the author and he projected her in Chiho and himself in Mao. |
Jun 30, 2022 6:05 PM
#57
| I like that the majority of people in the poll picked Maou x Emi lol I've been in love with this ship since I started watching the anime back when I was in my teens, so to hear them not be together is quite disappointing. It's just like Bleach all over again. But maybe they won't adapt another season till the end? For like maybe, another 9 or so years? lol I'll probably be in my 30's when that happens haha So I guess we'll just have to cherish every Maou x Emi moment they show us in anime (bc let's face it, there are more moments with these two than with Chiho) and hope they don't go for the LN ending ;; |
Jul 1, 2022 11:38 AM
#58
| I could care less about who he ends up with. I’m just watching this anime to have a good laugh. |
Jul 1, 2022 5:27 PM
#59
| it's like the writer trying to fix his mistakes by making a sequel for the novel lol unless the writer just don't give a syit even after getting death threat,i think mao x emi is most likely going to happen in the sequel |
Jul 1, 2022 9:10 PM
#60
Kritoveris said: Giving death threat is completely unacceptable and wrong. Just because the author didn't do what they were expecting, they should not have resorted to such thing. That's disrespectful, even for themselves as a person. That's all I can say for them. it's like the writer trying to fix his mistakes by making a sequel for the novel lol unless the writer just don't give a syit even after getting death threat,i think mao x emi is most likely going to happen in the sequel Honestly, I don't care anymore. I've moved on from this series. I've already expressed my disappointment and I am not expecting anything from the author anymore. But still, can you tell me that what is this SEQUEL thing about? Are you talking about it's Manga getting the sequel? |
Jul 3, 2022 10:29 AM
#61
| ah this shitty post again. maou get both if you don't know the meaning of the ending, its perfect ending already just what the f@ck people arguing at ? if you really want logic chiho is the best girl because she love him from the very begining and care about maou. not like emi who hate him a lot and try to kill him with any chance she can get. think again 0ssh0le. we already get a perfect ending where maou get both chiho and emi so what to argue here ? please ship wars make anime bad, i mean really really bad . weeb trash gtfo, he is demon lord harem ending = perfect ending, he get both for the best of the world. if you still don't get it ? get a real LIFE AND LEARN WHAT IS POLIGAMI THAT EXIST & REAL. i mean think about it the hidden massage in this novel series, did you really want to rejected a girl that actually love you, care about you then choose a killer and hate you ? even in real life ? wow you are the worst kind of human being. |
RedCobra75Jul 3, 2022 10:47 AM
Jul 3, 2022 7:38 PM
#62
| I watched season 1 a long time ago. but now I can't remember what happened in season 1. what now? I don't have time for a rewatch. |
Jul 3, 2022 9:38 PM
#63
KinjiKido said: I am not sure about that!! If it doesn't bother you much that whom Maou ends up with, and also assuming that you at least remember key moments from Season 1 like why Emi hated Maou or the introduced characters, then go for Season 2. The Anime focuses more on RomCom.I watched season 1 a long time ago. but now I can't remember what happened in season 1. what now? I don't have time for a rewatch. But whether you watch S2 or not is totally up to you. This post is just a heads up for the future... |
Jul 3, 2022 10:17 PM
#64
Read the your own comment again. Though I doubt you yourself would understand. People like you just act all rightful by bending the words to your satisfaction. Real life you said? Ever seen a Demon Lord, Hero, Magic, Parallel World in real life? Even if you haven't, do you expect a girl, who lost her father because of someone if not directly by them, to love that person straight out? And how often they get acquainted to be having such interactions to begin with? And you call me a worst kind of human being. Well, unlike you, I have feelings, so I'd feel the same way as Emi. You're telling me that Poligami exist and is real! Huh?! You don't even know that "ATTRACTION" is a thing and most School students go through that phase! And that "ATTRACTION" is not love. Not everything is love!! I could go on, I have proper reasonings to back up my thoughts. Not like you, whose little ego got hurt because someone put out their thoughts with proper reasoning and people agree with it. Who came with a new account specifically made for commenting such rude things to people whom you don't agree with. Me?! Get a life? I am not the one here being toxic and telling people what to think, what to learn and whatnot about real life. If you want that much reality, don't watch Anime. Or at least, try not to embarrass yourself. And since you don't even have a real argument to begin with, I am not gonna bother replying to you. Take it however you want, as your Victory or a reason for again replying with something rude and toxic... |
ShadowXBlasterJul 4, 2022 1:13 AM
Jul 3, 2022 11:16 PM
#65
| This is why shippers are looked down upon. Christ, the main plot isnt even about the romance. Its the action and comedy first and foremost. |
Jul 4, 2022 1:08 AM
#66
DGemu said: This is why shippers are looked down upon. Christ, the main plot isnt even about the romance. Its the action and comedy first and foremost. It's a Romance & Comedy!! Check the genre tags!! |
Jul 4, 2022 6:29 AM
#67
ShadowXBlaster said: novel sequel,what else ? the writer will still continue the story even when the end already seem like ''perfect'' ending for the story,i think you could tell his reason to continue the story againKritoveris said: Giving death threat is completely unacceptable and wrong. Just because the author didn't do what they were expecting, they should not have resorted to such thing. That's disrespectful, even for themselves as a person. That's all I can say for them. it's like the writer trying to fix his mistakes by making a sequel for the novel lol unless the writer just don't give a syit even after getting death threat,i think mao x emi is most likely going to happen in the sequel Honestly, I don't care anymore. I've moved on from this series. I've already expressed my disappointment and I am not expecting anything from the author anymore. But still, can you tell me that what is this SEQUEL thing about? Are you talking about it's Manga getting the sequel? but i'm the same with you,i don't care anymore with this series,the fact the writer made such dumb decision to make mao n chiho a thing,even though it's very obvious majority of fans wanted mao to end with emi,he should've know his decision will cause disappoinment to majority of fans. i also don't care if mao n emi will eventually end up together in the sequel,because the fact she will be his 2nd wife just bother me |
KritoverisJul 4, 2022 6:37 AM
Jul 4, 2022 6:34 AM
#68
RedCobra75 said: yea ''perfect'' ending but guess what ? this novel is getting a sequel cause it's like the writer trying to fix his dumb mistake. heard vol 1 will release this month if im not mistakenah this shitty post again. maou get both if you don't know the meaning of the ending, its perfect ending already just what the f@ck people arguing at ? if you really want logic chiho is the best girl because she love him from the very begining and care about maou. not like emi who hate him a lot and try to kill him with any chance she can get. think again 0ssh0le. we already get a perfect ending where maou get both chiho and emi so what to argue here ? please ship wars make anime bad, i mean really really bad . weeb trash gtfo, he is demon lord harem ending = perfect ending, he get both for the best of the world. if you still don't get it ? get a real LIFE AND LEARN WHAT IS POLIGAMI THAT EXIST & REAL. i mean think about it the hidden massage in this novel series, did you really want to rejected a girl that actually love you, care about you then choose a killer and hate you ? even in real life ? wow you are the worst kind of human being. |
Jul 6, 2022 3:29 AM
#69
| I understand your feeling quite too well. The disappointment of loving something, and yet betrayed by it can hurt a lot. I've read and dropped the novel at volume 16. I believe it was when the author decided to pull Chiho to Ente Isla and give her Deus ex Machina power. That was the point where I thought "Uh oh... Are you going to this route, dear author-san?" I wasn't there when the fuse of disappointment in the community were lit up by the ending, but I will never be there either. Yes, the story really built up the chemistry between Maou and Emi. An honest relationship where they are not hiding anything from each other and can banter with each other without getting hurt by it. Of course you have to take my preference towards Maou and Emi's character into account, but I think they can become (and have always been) a good couple. Well... For it to be dashed by the ending, sadly. ---------------------------------- I also have the same, or much worse disappointment with another series, Gotoubun no Hanayome by Negi Haruba. Ever since the finishing of its publication about 2 years ago, I have always wanted to write the same rant as you. Heck, I still have the draft file in my computer right now! But alas, I couldn't finish it as I'm so filled with rage and disappointment with how it ended as I write it and decided to stop writing as it won't help anyone, including myself. Yes, I loved Gotoubun no Hanayome. I was mostly there to discuss it with the Discord community on weekly basis whenever a new chapter came out. I had fun with the community, bantering with each other for our preferred girls, and I had a very good time while reading and engaging with the community about the series. But alas, my love was dashed by the ending, yet again. It was almost the same case as Hataraku Maou-sama where the author literally throws every single plot development up until the ending out of the window just to throw an "unexpected" ending, which turned out to be an utter BS of an ending, in my opinion of course. It was as if the author throws a prank at me and says "Hah! You didn't expect that, did you?" And worse, they did that just for the sake of giving a surprise without putting much substance into it. I don't know if you have read Gotoubun no Hanayome or not. Moreover if you root for the winner girl, then our opinion simply differ. I beg you to not argue with me about how the winner girl deserved to win. I've had enough of that. ---------------------------------- So yeah... It does happen. Getting disappointed by an author. I'm a creative myself, and I understood all too well that not everyone will like what you create. In that case, I can emphatize with Wagahara for pulling a shocking ending to his novel. And I can understand if he doesn't care whether the community like the ending or not. Especially so if he actually like Maou x Chiho pairing and have always planned for Chiho to have such a ridiculous plot device. Lastly for the anime. I will keep watching it for the comedy and Maou-Emi lovely banter. I humbly suggest you to do the same since I see both of us to have a similar reason of loving Maou and Emi. Thank you for reading my rant. 😁 |
Jul 6, 2022 11:18 PM
#70
I knew about that as well. Long ago, I checked it's spoilers too! This is one aspect of Harem Anime I hate the most. I don't know in what sense or for what satisfaction the authors get, that they decide to make such things. Most Harem are "love marathon" with a number of girls where in the end, MC ends up with one girl and others get hurt, but due to the plot, they end up compromising and we end up with this over the top obvious line "Yea, they are happy so I guess I should be too. For Them!!" Though I haven't read it's manga either (I've only watched the anime), but even if it ended with a ship that I liked, I would've felt bad for others nonetheless. And honestly, there are lot of things I want to write so much about but since it takes to much of thinking and sequencing, I always end up losing interest and motivation and I am like "Ahh, screw that!!" Even when I wrote this long Article, I lost motivation so many times but when I remembered again the discussions from other people and realized that how big my disappointment was and that it just wasn't me, I thought that I had to do it. I knew that people were disappointed but I never saw an single one explaining as to why in detail. That's why I wrote such a big one. It also helps reducing toxicity. |
Jul 7, 2022 6:08 AM
#71
ShadowXBlaster said: I knew about that as well. Long ago, I checked it's spoilers too! This is one aspect of Harem Anime I hate the most. I don't know in what sense or for what satisfaction the authors get, that they decide to make such things. Most Harem are "love marathon" with a number of girls where in the end, MC ends up with one girl and others get hurt, but due to the plot, they end up compromising and we end up with this over the top obvious line "Yea, they are happy so I guess I should be too. For Them!!" Though I haven't read it's manga either (I've only watched the anime), but even if it ended with a ship that I liked, I would've felt bad for others nonetheless. And honestly, there are lot of things I want to write so much about but since it takes to much of thinking and sequencing, I always end up losing interest and motivation and I am like "Ahh, screw that!!" Even when I wrote this long Article, I lost motivation so many times but when I remembered again the discussions from other people and realized that how big my disappointment was and that it just wasn't me, I thought that I had to do it. I knew that people were disappointed but I never saw an single one explaining as to why in detail. That's why I wrote such a big one. It also helps reducing toxicity. Judging from the poll results we're not alone in preferring Emi over Chiho. It's a shame the creators don't just do multiple endings, it would likely result in a lot more sales if they keep all the fans happy. |
Jul 7, 2022 5:50 PM
#72
| I'm also surprised this even got a S2 considering how badly the LN turned out to be and how much hate the author got. |
I may make you feel but I can't make you think. |
Jul 9, 2022 11:17 AM
#73
Pred8r said: @zaidRANGER @MizuXArt I've not watched erased but I've heard about it a lot Why was the ending bad ? I'm curious Don't really mind spoilers as I won't be watching it So there's a grown-ass male MC who has the ability to go back in time in order to "make things right". One day he goes WAY back in time, when he was just a little kid. When he was a lil kid (10yo), bunch of kids got murdered in his town, so he begins his quest to save them. The first victim is a female MC. Male MC eventually saves the girl (and several other kids too) from getting murdered. As we're expecting a happy end, the murderer is revealed. He traps male MC in a car and drowns it in the river. The murderer reconsiders killing the MC shortly after and saves him instead. But, the male MC spent too much time under the icy waters and is in coma for 10 years (may be more, don't remember). He finally wakes up when he's the same age he was before the huge time jump. While at the hospital, male MC is greeted by the female MC who's MARRIED AND HAS A KID! Lots of people got pissed about this as they expected the girl should've loved the MC and waited for him. I personally think these people are too bitter and missed the point of the show. 1) Male MC never intended to have romantic relationship with the girl; he was purely focused on saving her. 2) He never expected her to be indebted to him or something. 3) The girl liked MC but she's a grade-schooler ffs, love was out of question. This was also shown clearly. 4) Male MC kept reminding himself that he isn't a kid, but a time-traveling, grown-ass man in a child's body, whose main mission was to save the kids, not to groom a little girl so she'd become his gf/wife in the future! Seriously... people wanted a grown-ass man (in a child's body) to end up with a 10yo girl! 5) Male MC was in a coma for a long time and pretty much only his mom kept believing he would wake up one day. Expecting the female MC to be "loyal" to a guy who may have never woken up is beyond cruel! 6) Just because male MC saved the female MC, doesn't mean female MC had to fall in love with him. 7) Female MC is happy in the end and male MC is happy for her. Not a single hint of shame or guilt or disappointment in each other; only gratitude and relief and joy from both sides. At this point, people are too bitter they didn't get a cliche ending. Honestly it's sad how quite a lot people expected these two characters to end up together given the circumstances. |
Jul 10, 2022 12:10 AM
#74
| Wait wait wait what. Are you for real? He ends up with Chiho?? Oh thank god I can actually watch this series now. I was totally planning on skipping it because I hate MaouxEmi from the bottom of my heart and thought it was gonna happen... |
Jul 10, 2022 12:33 AM
#75
| Why would popularity be relevant? Who cares if Emi is more popular or not? LN's aren't written by committee, pairings shouldn't be decided by who is more popular. |
Jul 10, 2022 12:41 AM
#76
Saku_k said: Who cares?! You must still be half asleep to be asking that question!! And did you even read carefully? After all the build up, which was supposedly hinting towards the relationship between Maou & Emi, the conclusion was different. So if you're just writing for yourself just be upfront about it and how about you not bait your supporters by showing them something else and providing them a totally different thing. And if you do, then don't argue if people are disappointed and complain..Why would popularity be relevant? Who cares if Emi is more popular or not? LN's aren't written by committee, pairings shouldn't be decided by who is more popular. And yes, the answer to your question - "Why would popularity be relevant?" I don't even know why would you ask such an oblivious question, but they are popular because people like them. Simple enough? Like whom? Maou&Emi!! And there is obviously more development for them than anyone else... |
ShadowXBlasterJul 10, 2022 12:49 AM
Jul 10, 2022 12:49 AM
#77
ShadowXBlaster said: Saku_k said: Who cares?! You must still be half asleep to be asking that question!! And did you even read carefully? After all the build up, which was supposedly hinting towards the relationship between Maou & Emi, the conclusion was different. So if you're just writing for yourself, how about you not bait your supporters by showing them something and providing with a totally different thing. And if you do, then don't complainWhy would popularity be relevant? Who cares if Emi is more popular or not? LN's aren't written by committee, pairings shouldn't be decided by who is more popular. But you are only upset because you prefer Emi. If the situation was reversed you wouldn't care as much because the pairing you prefer got chosen. And it's not like there wasn't build up with Chiho either. She has been in love with Maou since the beginning (I know you like to just call it "attraction" instead). |
Jul 10, 2022 12:58 AM
#78
Saku_k said: And it's not like there wasn't build up with Chiho either. 16-17 volumes, that must be a dream... - Through interactions with each other, you get to know each other, start opening up to each other and start building feelings for each other. - Just because someone looks good and is nice to you makes you fall in love with that person. I like the former one. It feels genuine. As for the latter, just for that reason, if someone can say it's love, I don't think you know there are words like "AFFECTION", "ATTRACTION", "OBSESSION" etc. that have completely different meanings. And that's the point. You people want me to believe that Chiho is best for Maou because that for some reason, she was always in love with him... And you didn't even gave an answer to the previous arguement... |
ShadowXBlasterJul 10, 2022 1:05 AM
Jul 10, 2022 1:06 AM
#79
Haltija said: Wait wait wait what. Are you for real? He ends up with Chiho?? Oh thank god I can actually watch this series now. I was totally planning on skipping it because I hate MaouxEmi from the bottom of my heart and thought it was gonna happen... Ah yes,the classic "She is best cuz she was in love from the beginning!" That your kind? |
Jul 10, 2022 1:08 AM
#80
ShadowXBlaster said: Saku_k said: And it's not like there wasn't build up with Chiho either. 16-17 volumes, that must be a dream... - Through interactions with each other, you get to know each other, start opening up to each other and start building feelings for each other. - Just because someone looks good and is nice to you makes you fall in love with someone. I like the former one. It feels genuine. Affection is also a thing!! While the former might sound nice, it isn't particularly realistic. Attraction is the most important thing in love. I could have the most amazing interactions with someone, get to know them real well, open up, blah blah blah. But if they are a guy, I will never fall in love with them, because I am not attracted to men. That is the reality. Regardless, you are implying that none of that ever happens with Chiho, which is simply not true. Furthermore, you never even read the LN, so your entire argument is entirely irrelevant. You never experienced this so called "bait and switch". You never read all this supposed build up towards Emi x Maou. You watched the first season of the anime, read some spoilers, found out the girl you liked didn't "win", and got upset. If you liked Chiho more after watching the first season, read that Maou ended up with Chiho, then you would be happy and not care about any of this other stuff. You're just salty because you like Emi. We've all been there, where the girl we like didn't get the ending we wanted. it's just the way things go sometimes. |
Jul 10, 2022 1:36 AM
#81
Saku_k said: Salty So I am wrong because I didn't read the LN?! LoL Everyone has different preference. Something might be realistic to others but not to you and same the other way around. Likewise, same could be said for you. Alas=Ramus part must be joke and lie since I haven't read the LN. Even if I hadn't known all of this, and had I watched the Anime till the end if it were to ever reach there and had same ending as LN. I am sure you'd still be putting me in the wrong for not following the original source material and that "Your disappointment is due to your own lack of information!" Why? Because here in this series, your ship won!! Predictable... And FYI, I didn't just read some 2 line spoiler and wrote all of this, I went through a lot of discussions that LN readers were having, a lots of posts and articles before I wrote any of this. Putting it this way and calling me salty wouldn't change the fact that majority of LN readers were disappointed by the way the LN ended. The former one sounded good and that's what I want to see. If I wanted some real life lessons, I wouldn't be watching RomCom Fantasy with a Demon Lord, Hero and all of that... This argument can go on forever. Because if you think I am that guy who is posting all these comments and arguments baselessly, you are wrong. I've got good reasoning for my arguments. Didn't must copy pasted what I've found in Internet just like that... Anyway, I am sure you still have something to say, and I am also sure that I've got pretty much a decent answer to it!! |
ShadowXBlasterJul 10, 2022 1:41 AM
Jul 10, 2022 1:55 AM
#82
ShadowXBlaster said: Saku_k said: Salty So I am wrong because I didn't read the LN?! LoL Everyone has different preference. Something might be realistic to others but not to you and same the other way around. Likewise, same could be said for you. Alas=Ramus part must be joke and lie since I haven't read the LN. Even if I hadn't known all of this, and had I watched the Anime till the end if it were to ever reach there and had same ending as LN. I am sure you'd still be putting me in the wrong for not following the original source material and that "Your disappointment is due to your own lack of information!" Why? Because here in this series, your ship won!! Predictable... And FYI, I didn't just read some 2 line spoiler and wrote all of this, I went through a lot of discussions that LN readers were having, a lots of posts and articles before I wrote any of this. My point is, that you were upset before you read all of those spoilers, for the sole reason that the pairing you wanted didn't happen. The Alas=Ramus etc stuff doesn't matter. You didn't read those volumes and think to yourself "oh, this must mean that Emi is going to win!", only to be disappointed when the series finished. Your liking of Emi, your preference for her, is not based on those events. You read that Emi didn't win, got upset, then read more spoilers and decided to use those reasons after the fact, to justify your disappointment. So even if that stuff never happened, you would still be upset at the end if Emi didn't win, because you wanted her to win from season 1. Furthermore, keep in mind that the stuff you are reading online, is written by people who wanted Emi to win. They will only write their point of view, and ignore or play down anything that might suggest Chiho would win. Putting it this way and calling me salty wouldn't change the fact that majority of LN readers were disappointed by the way the LN ended. The former one sounded good and that's what I want to see. If I wanted some real life lessons, I wouldn't be watching RomCom Fantasy with a Demon Lord, Hero and all of that... If the majority prefers Emi, then of course the majority will be upset if she doesn't win. It doesn't matter how they arrive there. The author could've written several more volumes focusing only on more relationship building between Chiho and Maou. They would still be upset, because it isn't the ending they wanted. |
Jul 10, 2022 2:16 AM
#83
Saku_k said: Furthermore, keep in mind that the stuff you are reading online, is written by people who wanted Emi to win. They will only write their point of view, and ignore or play down anything that might suggest Chiho would win. The only extent to which I've heard people supporting Chiho is that she was always in love with Maou and didn't tried to kill Maou. Throw all the other development aside, give Chiho some more twisted plot advantage and end Maou & Chiho in a relationship. Like seriously?! Saku_k said: The author could've written several more volumes focusing only on more relationship building between Chiho and Maou. That too, and at least, it would have been acceptable. What were all those volumes about if Chiho was the main focus to begin with. Chiho could've been the main focus with the author introducing Emi as a character who learns about Maou and her thoughts towards him change just like the character Suzuno Kamazuki. I don't remember seeing someone shipping Maou with Suzuki. All this farce could've been avoided, but well, author had another plans. And they weren't even least bit good... Anyway, this seems to be a good point to conclude our discussion. |
ShadowXBlasterJul 13, 2022 12:01 AM
Jul 12, 2022 7:12 AM
#84
ShadowXBlaster said: Haltija said: Wait wait wait what. Are you for real? He ends up with Chiho?? Oh thank god I can actually watch this series now. I was totally planning on skipping it because I hate MaouxEmi from the bottom of my heart and thought it was gonna happen... Ah yes,the classic "She is best cuz she was in love from the beginning!" That your kind? I can't stand female tsunderes. The idea that the dark lord would end up with some random fast food girl is infinitely more entertaining than the seen-a-million-times tsundere story. |
Jul 12, 2022 8:24 AM
#85
Haltija said: I can't stand female tsunderes. That's your personal taste. You like CHIHO, great!! I didn't wanna do this, but seems like it's time to brag. The poll is there for a reason. So here it goes - Majority of people liked MAOU & EMI, because they liked the development between them, and they consider that EMI is really good. And since MAOU & EMI did not end up together despite it was looking to go that way, there was a backlash because people were hugely disappointed. There's that. I am not gonna bother anymore, cuz facts will be facts!! And I've got proof for that... |
ShadowXBlasterJul 12, 2022 8:31 AM
Jul 12, 2022 10:34 AM
#86
ShadowXBlaster said: That's your personal taste. You like CHIHO, great!! I didn't wanna do this, but seems like it's time to brag. The poll is there for a reason. So here it goes - Majority of people liked MAOU & EMI, because they liked the development between them, and they consider that EMI is really good. And since MAOU & EMI did not end up together despite it was looking to go that way, there was a backlash because people were hugely disappointed. There's that. I am not gonna bother anymore, cuz facts will be facts!! And I've got proof for that... Yeah if tsundere fans gravitated towards this series because they thought they were gonna get a tsundere romance, I'd imagine they'd be disappointed. And people like me might've dropped it, thinking a tsundere romance was gonna happen. So thank you for making the thread, otherwise I probably wouldn't have known I can keep watching. |
Jul 12, 2022 11:34 AM
#87
Keep making yourself feel better that way... Anf FYI, it was supposed to be romance between Maou & Emi. Majority of the volumes highly implied that and were about them. Thank the author for ruining it for majority of the supporters who were supporting the series from the beginning thinking that author would end the series in a way he was highly hinting for so long, decided to please you people instead. Reason? You didn't like Tsunderes!! Had those volumes rather focused on development for Chiho, it would've been acceptable. And him, along with this work of his, wouldn't be in this position in first place without the supporters that he decided to screw over... |
ShadowXBlasterJul 13, 2022 12:04 AM
Jul 13, 2022 9:29 AM
#88
If the series implied Maou x Emi as much as you claim, then wouldn't it be logical for tsundere fans to have gravitated towards it? :DD |
Jul 13, 2022 11:09 AM
#89
Haltija said: If the series implied Maou x Emi as much as you claim, then wouldn't it be logical for tsundere fans to have gravitated towards it? :DD Are you for real? The fact that you even said that is just utterly ridiculous and laughable!! If they like Emi, they are Tsundere lovers?! And if the series implied that, only Tsundere lovers will watch it?! Seriously, I am so amazed by your thinking that I don't even know what to say anymore!! It's too hard for you to understand anyway, but I will complete my sentence! The author disappointed the many people who supported him throughout the years buying his work. He played a fast one on them. Result? Ratings for this series dropped and his next series failed! But I am sure that you hardly care since your excuse seems to work here "He was writing for himself and did what he wanted." Great, since you wanted to write for yourself, you can read yourself. Ain't no one trusting you and supporting you. You got into that position you're in because of your supporters, whom you decided to screw over. The fact that the author did what he did to his supporters who brought him into a good position is just unacceptable. People supported him for a good reason, bought his works, brought him into a good position. They supported him because they liked the direction the series was headed in and in the way he was hinting it at. But instead, after he gets the money and fame, he screws his fan base and pulls a fast one on them. Then you people come along, say that it's fine because he did what he wanted. No!! He had at least that much of responsibility to give the readers what they wanted but he didn't care for the supporters, only for his personal gain and satisfaction. And you wouldn't be debating on this particular series because otherwise, it would've been something completely different. And on top of that, you are calling people "Tsundere Lovers!!", who are the reason this series is popular. To me, it seems you are just enjoying other people's misfortune... Because even after explaining things so much, you haven't provided a single sound argument yet!! |
ShadowXBlasterJul 13, 2022 11:14 AM
Jul 13, 2022 11:16 AM
#90
Well yeah I'd imagine someone who likes a tsundere character probably likes tsundere characters :D I'm not having an argument bro literally just a normal conversation. Y'all are literally incapable of not being confrontational. |
Jul 13, 2022 11:22 AM
#91
ShadowXBlaster said: But I am sure that you hardly care since your excuse seems to work here "He was writing for himself and did what he wanted." I've literally never said any of this, wtf are you on? xDDD |
Jul 13, 2022 11:28 AM
#92
Haltija said: ShadowXBlaster said: But I am sure that you hardly care since your excuse seems to work here "He was writing for himself and did what he wanted." I've literally never said any of this, wtf are you on? xDDD Ok, that's my mistake. But I am still waiting for a reasonable argument!! Got any?? |
Jul 13, 2022 11:33 AM
#93
ShadowXBlaster said: Haltija said: ShadowXBlaster said: But I am sure that you hardly care since your excuse seems to work here "He was writing for himself and did what he wanted." I've literally never said any of this, wtf are you on? xDDD Ok, that's my mistake. But I am still waiting for a reasonable argument!! Got any?? I literally just said I'm not having an argument |
Jul 13, 2022 11:44 AM
#94
| Wait, so are you telling me he doesn't end up with the annoying run-of-the-mill tsundere? Great! |
Jul 13, 2022 11:46 AM
#95
SouthRzVa said: No!! Who the heck told you that?! You just assumed it!!Wait, so are you telling me he doesn't end up with the annoying run-of-the-mill tsundere? Great! |
ShadowXBlasterJul 13, 2022 8:09 PM
Jul 13, 2022 9:05 PM
#96
| I actually voted for Emi before reading this post and it only takes 3 minutes to fully grasp the whole situation. I'm thankful for this long post. Thank you for the effort you put in (and the other unknown users as well) and I guess I really am thankful that there's someone or a group of people who really adored Emi as a character. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
Jul 13, 2022 9:16 PM
#97
astralkill00 said: I'm thankful for this long post. And I really appreciate your gesture for letting me know!! I really lost the motivation to write so many times, but seeing that there was hardly any post explaining the situation in depth, and the fact I wanted to explain the things as best as I could, I thought that I should just write it. I never wrote something this big as it takes a lot of time, scripting and thinking and most of the time I end up deleting everything I write and be like "Ahh, Scrap that!" And while this may not be perfect, I am still trying to update this post with each new information I am getting... It gives me enough basis to support my arguments and reasoning. Again, Thanks for letting me know your thoughts. I really appreciate it... |
Jul 13, 2022 10:12 PM
#98
ShadowXBlaster said: I think I I knew that actually XD I've been seeing people complaining about it when I saw it, so I knew what to expect. XDUPDATE (written on 05th July 2022 ): Hataraku Maou-sama! by Satoshi Wagahara also gets a Novel Sequel named Hataraku Maou-sama - Okawari, will be illustrated by 029 set after the events of Final Novel of 2020!! Set To Release In July 2022 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hataraku Maou-sama! Season 1 was one of those Anime I remember watching when I was just getting into the Anime. It might not have been the 1st RomCom Anime I might have watched but when I try to remember one, only this anime comes to my mind as my 1st of a kind watch. At that time, I didn't knew anything about Manga or Light Novel as I just started watching Anime. And honestly, I really enjoyed the Season 1 of this Anime. It was just really good, and it still is. (1) But do you have any idea what made it so good for me? At least until you realize what you are in for that is!! DO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS OPINION IS FROM A PERSON WHO HAD NO IDEA THAT WHAT A MANGA OR A LIGHT NOVEL WAS WHEN HE WATCHED THE SEASON 1 OF "Hataraku Maou-sama!". So I Think It's Fair To Say That I Can Consider Myself A Part Of General Audience Rather Than A Fan. So as I've said before, I had general idea how things worked in such RomCom or Romance Anime, at least a little bit, back when I watched Season 1. Let's get into the spoilers from here - Note: If you don't want spoilers, just go directly to the poll and choose your preferred pair! Since I was only following the Anime, I was happy how things were developing between Maou and Emi and I never even thought of Chiho as a romantic candidate. Yes the Anime implied that by telling in an obvious way, but I always thought that it was there for the sole purpose of comedy. And it even seemed that way. And later how the Anime progressed, I thought that Maou and Emi were perfect for each other. Why? For a lonely single person like me, I enjoy watching anime where characters develop feelings for each other, or even a girl opening up to a person she never liked before. This is one concept I've really liked. Watching Chiho was more like a teen obsessed with finding love. And since Maou was nice to her and looked cool, she was obsessed with Maou. I feel that kind of thing nothing more than attraction rather than love. And this is something I am realizing now. Why? Because years back, I never would've guessed what's gonna happen... And what happened wasn't even justified... Since I haven't read the LN, or Manga (which is still publishing), I've done some research, and going by the knowledge and thoughts of most people, it's less likely that Manga will go in any other direction other than that of the source material which is the LN. And of course, that is really disappointing. So much so, that I can’t even compare it so anything!! I am sure LN readers are already aware of this, and if you're still here and haven't read the LN, you're gonna realize something that I realized for good as well... Whenever I watch an Anime, and if I liked it, I always check it on the internet if that anime is ever going to get a 2nd season. But when I checked the same for ”Hataraku Maou-sama!”, my first disappointment was back then. Because after so many years, it still didn’t get a season 2. And also, there were articles saying that “Usually, if any anime is left for so long, the hype and popularity gradually goes down. And there were people who were like “I won’t get my hopes high because after such a long time, it’s less likely that an Anime would get a 2nd season after so long”. I guess they were all wrong and when the 2nd season did actually get announced, I was so happy and excited. I was just waiting for the day to come when the Anime would just start airing already! And since this Anime was one my favourite and 1st of a kind, I was really curious about Maou and Emi, so curious that I ended up searching “Who does Maou ends up with?” And that is where all of my hope, my excitement, my expectations and almost everything fell apart!! Because that’s not what happened! I came across people discussing how the author (Satoshi Wagahara), ruined everything for them by making Maou and Chiho a thing. It just took a moment to destroy everything for me. Now before I go on any further, let me explain why I rooted for Maou & Emi to be together. And I am sure that majority of people/fans wanted MaouxEmi. One of the most notable moments at the end of S1!! When Emi gives the umbrella to Maou and he says “Thank You!!”. It was such a wonderful ending that even after knowing that we might not ever get a S2, I just imagined that they will start developing feelings for each other and eventually end up getting together. Maou & Emi fought with each other, yet they still worked together, spend time together bickering etc. So, when the relationship develops between such characters, that relationship feels genuine and pleasant!! But that’s not what happened, did it? So, I came across some of the discussions and reviews left by the fans and I found out that the LN was actually building up the relationship between Maou & Emi bringing in Alas Ramus as an appointed daughter of Maou & Emi. People were enjoying this development because they thought that Maou & Emi are getting even closer in a relationship!! One of the genres for “Hataraku Maou-sama!” is ‘comedy’!! And I don’t think that anyone would’ve ever expected that Satoshi Wagahara (the author) would pull that comedy on his audience! Let me provide a little reference! As of this moment, when I am writing this, these are the current standings Sadou Maou Currently With 3272 Favorites Sadao Maou’s MyAnimeList Emi Yusa Currently With 1,060 Favorites Emi Yusa’s MyAnimeList Chiho Sasaki Currently With 507 Favorites Chiho Sasaki What I am trying to point out here is that Emi is clearly more popular and liked by more people than Chiho. So I don’t think it’s unfair to say that majority of people wanted this pair MaouxEmi But instead, we got MaouxChiho It was like - ”Go To Hell” or more like ”I Don't Care What You All Think” to the entire readers who were supporting the author for so long because of what he promised through his works and decided to do a turnaround! And I also discovered that some people went as far as giving death threats to the author. That act is truly despicable. And then there are also other kind of people on the other side!! With majority of readers getting on internet to share their disappointment and how they want ending to be fixed or want justice, but of course, there has to be a group who got what they wanted and their happiness was a bit too out of control. And they were definitely not feeling too happy about it that majority of people don’t agree with their thoughts. But hey, everyone wanted to be seen as genuine as possible. So, what they resorted to was calling “toxic fans” to anyone who was supporting/rooting for MaouxEmi, (an obvious trick at this day and age) to be seen as a genuine supporter. Yeah, right!! - Some even said “Be glad, that the author kept you entertained no matter what for the past few years, despite how he ended the story.” And while I do agree on this to some extent that he did keep us entertained, the ending was nowhere near what the story was building up to!! Now remember, I told you about Alas Ramus who got introduced, as an appointed daughter of Maou & Emi. Now tell me that the author didn’t bait majority of his supporters into thinking that the story was heading towards what they were thinking before finally doing a turnaround! We are talking about the supporters who bought his work and supported him throughout, helping him gain name and fame. And those are the supporters you played such a dirty trick on! For some people, these anime, manga or light novel are more than just animation or story depicted on paper material by someone else. Feelings are attached to them. And if someone hurts the feelings of those who supported him/her for so long. Then what’s wrong if some say - I won’t ever buy his/her works... I am hugely disappointed!! I am gonna boycott his/her works. I will lower my ratings as it ruined all of my expectations Etc. And the funny thing is, that I am feeling so frustrated and annoyed, even though I haven’t read the Light Novel or Manga. I can’t even imagine what the fans or the readers must’ve felt after the LN ended. Just a few words from the internet were enough to make me feel this way! Many people would avoid spoilers to the very best of their ability. I am glad that spoilers don’t bother me that much. Because it gave me the warning that if I am gonna continue, I am sure as hell going to get disappointed and regret getting too attached to this series... Here are some examples (Reviews) - 1st Review 2nd Review 3rd Review 4th Review The disappointment and frustration of people is as clearly visible!! So, I did say before that I was excited for Season 2 and was really happy that it was finally happening! Now the question remains – Should I even bother watching the 2nd season knowing full well that I am in for a huge disappointment? Now this simple question has become so much harder to answer! You still love it (the characters, art style, it’s environment); you want a better ending; you want things to change; you want the relationship that was building up to be justified. Even though you know that it’s not gonna happen, you somewhere in your heart keep hoping that it would change!! There are few Anime which didn’t follow the source material, and they had to suffer. And they even had such a great potential. All ruined. I never thought that I would ever say that I don’t want an Anime to follow it’s source material But Hataraku Maou-sama! is certainly the 1st Anime I am hoping would do exactly that i.e., to not follow the source material. But you know what, I’ve been let down so many times for expecting things from someone else or things that weren’t in my control that now I think I am well enough not having any expectations at all. If you don’t care about the people who brought you into a position where you are now then you can go ahead still keep doing your thing if it pleases you. But don’t expect anyone to follow you then, after you completely destroy all of their hopes and expectations. At this point it doesn't matter, but I would still like to know your preferred pair!! So vote it in the poll!! I know it doesn't matter and it won't change a thing. I just wanted to let out my frustration and disappointment. So I just shared my thoughts... I WISH THAT IT WAS ALL BUT A BAD DREAM BUT IT ISN’T THE ONLY THING I CAN DO, THE ONLY THING THAT I AM LEFT TO DO IS TO TRY TRY TO FORGET Original Post Ends Here My Thoughts On Sequel Announcement Owakari = A Second Helping So yeah, it also gets a Novel Sequel. As written in updated part at the beginning, it is set after the events of FINAL Volume of the Novel! Assuming that you've already read the original post, let's move forward. So Owakari mean "A Second Helping"!! That is definitely one good name. I don't know the reason but I can say this that I don't think there are 2nd chances for many choices you make in your life. But I should be happy right? It's possible that the ending might get addressed!! No, it basically feels like a Damage Control at this point. Why? You could go for a different MANGA ending as it's still ongoing, or an Anime only ending. That would make sense if only you wanted a different ending for those who were disappointed. And that would've been a much better idea than a sequel!! My Assumptions - A Sequel is for what? A sequel to the original novel of all things, whose ending left many disappointed, I only see it going in the route of Harem with Moau now accepting Emi's feeling as well. There's no other way of Damage Control. If you think that it will change the ending by making all of the ending part of the original Novel seem like a dream/illusion or Maou somehow realizing his feelings for Emi after spending some time alone is his thoughts, it basically would mean more damage. There's no way Wagahara is doing that. He just can't do it!! That would mean that you'd be upsetting other Supporters of yours who always liked Chiho and got a good conclusion for themselves. All in all, it feels like a try at compensating the fan base by going for something that will eventually make it like a compromise between something. Guess what? People were saying that it hinted towards a harem ending and that Chiho will be the number 1 in any case. I can see that coming to fruition... But I don't think people will buy COMPROMISATION/CONSIDERATION!! Well, in any case, these are just my assumptions on the Sequel. I will keep updating/correcting this post as I get more information later. On top of everything, the Animation Quality!! That could've been the least... |
Jul 13, 2022 10:14 PM
#99
Zac22 said: I agree. It WAS the same case with Hinata before, but people grew out of it. After all, Naruto had a crush on Sakura then. With this one, Emi and Maou just has that "hate" friendship considering their past differences. In my opinion, it could've been but if we're being honest, it would take a miracle to happen. That's just my word on it, tho. Others will say differently.Well,not a fan of chiho,but not complaining that much. Seeing side heroine win is kind of fresh for me. Not gonna lie, tho. this is off topic. But I do want Boruto and Sarada to end up together. Even tho, the authors might not be leading towards that. |
Jul 13, 2022 10:26 PM
#100
Zac22 said: Seeing side heroine win is kind of fresh for me. KiroTheAssassin said: I agree. Would it be wrong to to say that the supporters at least deserved to get what they wanted and what they were supporting the series for? You maybe be fine with that, but many people supported the author for years by buying his works. He was obliged to provide at least that much. You can't just gove an excuse to that fact by saying "He did what he wanted!" or "Fresh to see something different!" It's completely irrelevant that what would have happened if the story was different or how people might have responded to the series. Because that's something you wouldn't know, and that it doesn't exist. This series was helped by majority of people whom the author disappointed. And this person here is explained it in a easy way - Why aren't people seeing any of this reasoning behind the disappointment of the fan base? I mean, they are as much important as the author who made the series. Because they are the reason the author went to that position!! |
ShadowXBlasterJul 13, 2022 10:31 PM
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