Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari Season 2 Episode 12 Discussion

KingHajime22_ said:
How can you put your last episode as recape? Lol. It's surely stupidity

fisty123 said:
It's funny that most of the hate is coming from the LN readers, (where 80% of anime hate comes from these days), it's an adaption not a word for word, if you want to speak LN then go over to the LN section, if they were to adapt everything the budget would be shot before the Turtle was killed and yes I know what was left out but if your an anime only viewer it does not effect the viewing joy, in fact it makes you want to support the original material to see what you are missing.

As for the topic in question this was a great ep for Anime only viewers, series as a whole did feel rushed at times but the last few eps have been rather enjoyable. |

With next week ep, I feel it might be a backstory of sorts showing some of the parts that were missed to make you understand perhaps Kyo or even Rishia's reasons. But it could also be an introduction into some of the characters for the next arc

fisty123 said:
It's funny that most of the hate is coming from the LN readers, (where 80% of anime hate comes from these days), it's an adaption not a word for word, if you want to speak LN then go over to the LN section, if they were to adapt everything the budget would be shot before the Turtle was killed and yes I know what was left out but if your an anime only viewer it does not effect the viewing joy, in fact it makes you want to support the original material to see what you are missing.

As for the topic in question this was a great ep for Anime only viewers, series as a whole did feel rushed at times but the last few eps have been rather enjoyable. |

With next week ep, I feel it might be a backstory of sorts showing some of the parts that were missed to make you understand perhaps Kyo or even Rishia's reasons. But it could also be an introduction into some of the characters for the next arc

MaikelOk said:
Which LN did this episode end with? Haven't read the LN yet and I'm not sure if I ever will tbh.

Sajonji said:
Was season 2 always going for 13 episodes ? I could swear it was listed as 12 episodes on here...

Yaggamy said:
The studio adapted a whole LN volume in just 2 episodes!
The whole season was a rush fest. Season 1 adapted 61 pages per episode from LNs on average, season 2 adapted 106 pages per episode.
The sad thing is that this was one of the best arcs the series has to offer, and they totally ruined it!!!
Also the next episode is a recap...
This season sucks so hard it's not even in the top 20 watched shows in Japan right now. Even they hate it!

titodacat said:
I can assure you it isn't only the ln readers who are displeased with s2, it is a vast step down. I think this episode as a part of season 2 was middle of the road, it was way too rushed and felt like toaru season 3 all over again with rushing so they could finish, minus the great animation toaru gives us. kinda wished they instead just did this over 2 eps so it wouldn't feel so rushed but it's clear they want to get it over with to get to season 3.

PlutoMayhem said:
Perhaps its because I didn't read the LN, but I really enjoyed this episode. The season overall has been meh up until the second half and I feel its picked up and become more enjoyable

Silent_Shadow05 said:
Why wasn't Raphtalia summoned along with the other Heroes to fight the Wave? Is she not a Cardinal Hero thereby not transported like they and their party are?

smoltulip said:


100%. As an anime-only watcher it really felt like they were speeding through everything as fast as they possibly could. And it was so jarring coming from season 1, where they spent so much time on character moments, stretched out across 2, sometimes even 3- episodes. Here we were lucky if we got 2 episodes for what should have been really impactful moments. There was barely any time spent on character motivations, antagonists, etc. I could go on.

I definitely think you're right that they wanted to get this over with and get to season 3. It just sucks because we know they can do better than this. Like the ending with the goodbyes and everything, it didn't even affect me really because I didn't get super attached to the new characters. I mean, they're great, Kizuna is super cute! but there was just so much missing throughout the season that the big emotional moments felt so flat to me.

Especially the final battle: which, if we had proper buildup to it this season, I would have loved. One of my favorite things about season 1, was Naofumi and his group finally showing just how amazing they are after all the struggle they went through to get to that point. We got to know them all so well, that their journey meant something to us. This final battle was good, but it really didn't feel earned to me because of how quickly we glossed over everything this season. What should have been emotional and cathartic and a beautiful character capstone, really felt like they were going through the motions (even though Ishikawa's acting was really well done when it counted).

I'm like venting at this point lmao, but absolutely, this isn't a LN reader-only thing. This is a: "pretty much everyone can see just how much worse this was than season 1, and how lacking it was in all of the things that most of us watch Tate no Yuusha for" thing.

AkeZZZ said:
Is this the finale episode?! lol... This episode felt like a final episode when there is one more in the next week.
Honestly, Kyo's death was not satisfactory. His death should be more suffering than being killed by a laser beam.

Typecero said:


Perhaps I imagined it, but did Naofumi ever go into "character assassination mode" in Novel 9 and start calling his companions useless? I am sure I would have remembered if he had called Raphtalia and Filo "dead weight" and Rishia "Bow Hero Whore"?

Rytakahashi09 said:
My only question from this season is,

Is Glass a lesbian?

Raizel said:
Lmao the dragon spoke my mind calling her a slut who wants to get into the bow guy'a pants XD well said Doragon Kun.

Yaggamy said:
The studio adapted a whole LN volume in just 2 episodes!
The whole season was a rush fest. Season 1 adapted 61 pages per episode from LNs on average, season 2 adapted 106 pages per episode.
The sad thing is that this was one of the best arcs the series has to offer, and they totally ruined it!!!
Also the next episode is a recap...
This season sucks so hard it's not even in the top 20 watched shows in Japan right now. Even they hate it!

Punkero said:
Rishia got thot slayed there, RIP.
This defo seemed like your typical last episode, so what will they do for next week? recap? some sort of "bridge" episode?

nyugvo6 said:
what a miserable fanfic this anime is. it's just getting worse as it goes on. can't imagine how badly they'll ruin the next novels, but I'm not about to find out.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
I wish Naofumi would punch the girl who tried to attack them even though she didn't know. She still tried to help him.

When are they getting rid of the green haired dead weight crying girl? Although I did like when he was shitting on her calling her a whore and slut. #true

Also the white haired guy with the ship reminds me big time of Merlin from FGO

AkeZZZ said:
Is this the finale episode?! lol... This episode felt like a final episode when there is one more in the next week.
Honestly, Kyo's death was not satisfactory. His death should be more suffering than being killed by a laser beam.

Yaggamy said:


The anime cut this out. But basically while Raphtalia and Glass spars in the castle she confesses that she loves Kizuna.

RioFS said:
Why didn't it end here? And what's Phoenix? Might be forgetting some stuff probably.

Yaggamy said:
There was so many things wrong with this episode because of the changes the studio made to the story!

Kizuna's logic: The only way to end the wave is to defeat Kyo. So lets stay here and fight the unlimited number of enemies!

Naofumi's logic: Kyo kicked our but last time when it was 8 vs 1. So this time I'm sure it's enough if I only bring Rishia with me!

Raph-chan: I'm useless in the anime. Chris was enough to find Kizuna's group. I only exist to sell merchandise, Rafu!

Rishia: They cut out my sub-plots. I'm just a deus ex machina against the bad guy!

Kyo: The studio changed the story so there was no logic behind me summoning a wave. And the studio didn't have a budget for my fight so I only got a beam struggle. They even cut out my reincarnation ability that I can use when I die!

Random half-beast girls: Naofumi used a bunch of shields to protect themselves from the replica weapons explosion. The explosion wrecked the lab, but it did 0 damage to us inspite being centimeters from it.

Anime: I'm not going to explain important stuff. Like how are the heroes so strong while a wave is happening. What does Kizuna's lure skill do. We don't have the budget to animate Naofumi's All Sacrifice Aura. Also because we are rushing things Naofumi only gets 1 minute to say goodbye instead of 3 days. We adapted one LN in two episodes, woohoo!!!

Yaggamy said:


The anime cut this out. But basically while Raphtalia and Glass spars in the castle she confesses that she loves Kizuna.

Zuit said:


Was it really that bad compared to the source? Bad, like The Promised Neverland s2?

Yaggamy said:

The anime hates violence. But the manga doesn't!
In the manga Rishia stabs Kyo and he also loses an arm.
Naofumi chokes him and burns him with dark curse.
Also Kyo gets to experience death twice because he reincarnates after the first one so they kill him again.

Yaggamy said:

Recap episode next week...

There are four guardian beasts in each world, the Spirit Tortoise was one of them. The second is the Phoenix.
In Glasses's World most of the beasts are already defeated. The tigers were a copy of one in episode 10.

nyugvo6 said:

if you ask my opinion, yes. about that bad. read the manga if you feel like it, I guarantee you that it's a better experience. I enjoyed it a lot, which is why the anime rubs me the wrong way. I wanted to see the story adapted, not sit through a subpar watered down rewrite.