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May 10, 2022 4:33 AM
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For all who remember or recently watched the Syrup village Arc (Usopps Hometown):
What was Captain Blacks plan?

To summarize:

He was chased by marines,
wanted to leave piratehood for good,
started new as the butler of Kaya,
remained that for years,
comes out it’s only to gain her trust,
invited his former crew, that he intentionally left befor, for an invasion,
planned the timing of raid with them (I guess),
threatens, then straight up ignores Usopp after he found out,
no one believes Usopp,
Luffys crew beats half of the crew,
Black reveals himself as a killer/captain black to Kaya anyway,
talks about his actual plan to legally inherit Kayas belongings after her near NATURAL death,
does the exact opposite,
FORCES/THREATENS her to sign the last will contract,
“kills“ Luffy bc he beat his men (why?!),
slaughters his people himself,
also attacks the random pirate Luffy,
still wants Kayas stuff the legal way,
looses against Luffy,
Like WTH?!
Did I miss anything?!
TrickiekingMay 10, 2022 7:36 AM
May 10, 2022 4:51 AM
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to take all of kaya’s money and property. btw are u watching dub!!
May 10, 2022 4:53 AM
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Fire_Sloth21 said:
to take all of kaya’s money and property. btw are u watching dub!!

I watched German Dub until mid fishmen island then rewatched all to date with english subs. Soo not rly
Except for the Manga, only english
May 10, 2022 5:51 AM
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Trickieking said:
Fire_Sloth21 said:
to take all of kaya’s money and property. btw are u watching dub!!

I watched German Dub until mid fishmen island then rewatched all to date with english subs. Soo not rly
Except for the Manga, only english

sub>dub no one can change my mind expect for Dragon Ball
May 10, 2022 5:56 AM
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German Dub in One Piece=Sub, I'm serious it's great the VA's did a great job and it's just pure nostalgia
May 10, 2022 5:58 AM
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@vasalikesanime just in case you’re curious enough. I recommend watching some germandub scenes of Katakuri, Dio, Reiner by Marios Gavrilis, actors like him make me love the german dub. I can’t stand most english dubs tho and barely enjoy it, unless it’s US original animations (like Rick&Morty, Co.)
TrickiekingMay 10, 2022 2:40 PM
May 10, 2022 7:03 AM
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You literally just explained a simple story line… is this not supposed to make sense? This is a really dumb post
"Equivalent exchange. I'll give half of my life to you, if you give half of your life to me."
May 10, 2022 7:22 AM
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MR-GOD said:
You literally just explained a simple story line… is this not supposed to make sense? This is a really dumb post

It is not if you think about his actions. They contradict each other completely! If you only take the information I posted you could blame it on weird emotional impulses but his comments and other plans/intentions don’t add up. Unless there really is a smart plan behind all that that I missed
May 10, 2022 7:34 AM
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Trickieking said:
For all who remember or recently watched the Syrup village Arc (Usopps Hometown):
What was Captain Blacks plan?

To summarize:

He was chased by marines,
wanted to leave piratehood,
started as the butler of Kaya,
remained that for years to gain her trust,
invited his former crew for an invasion,
planned the timing of raid with them (I guess),
Luffys crew beats half of them before raidtime,
he reveals himself as a killer/captain black,
talks about his plan to legally inherit Kayas belongings after her near death (I guess),
threatens then straight up ignores Usopp after he found out,
“kills“ Luffy,
slaughters his ship and people out of fury (I guess),
again attacks the random pirate Luffy as well,
still wants Kayas stuff,
looses,
Like WTH?!


The plan makes sense, you just seem confused about some of his actions because you haven't seen the arc in a minute?


He ignored eavesdropping Usopp at first because no one would believe him anyway and he was right. The villagers chased him away/Merry shot him in the arm. During the raid he would've killed him along with everyone else.

He planned to silence his crew forever from the very beginning. He wanted peace of mind above anything else and to achieve that every potenial threat had to be eliminated.

He attacked Luffy obviously because he stood in his way.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


May 10, 2022 7:44 AM
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FMmatron said:
Trickieking said:
For all who remember or recently watched the Syrup village Arc (Usopps Hometown):
What was Captain Blacks plan?

To summarize:

He was chased by marines,
wanted to leave piratehood,
started as the butler of Kaya,
remained that for years to gain her trust,
invited his former crew for an invasion,
planned the timing of raid with them (I guess),
Luffys crew beats half of them before raidtime,
he reveals himself as a killer/captain black,
talks about his plan to legally inherit Kayas belongings after her near death (I guess),
threatens then straight up ignores Usopp after he found out,
“kills“ Luffy,
slaughters his ship and people out of fury (I guess),
again attacks the random pirate Luffy as well,
still wants Kayas stuff,
looses,
Like WTH?!


The plan makes sense, you just seem confused about some of his actions because you haven't seen the arc in a minute?


He ignored eavesdropping Usopp at first because no one would believe him anyway and he was right. The villagers chased him away/Merry shot him in the arm. During the raid he would've killed him along with everyone else.

He planned to silence his crew forever from the very beginning. He wanted peace of mind above anything else and to achieve that every potenial threat had to be eliminated.

He attacked Luffy obviously because he stood in his way.

So he wanted to let his crew be fault of the sudden death of all villagers? By killing them be seen as a ”avenger“ by the marines, legally own Kayas belongings, live on his own, knowing that everyone from his past is dead?
In summary that means he is a Psychopath that couldn’t stand ppl to exist that know of his previous actions/life, make all deaths be logically explainable to the WG, live with all the riches Kaya owned by himself?
So he spend years for the trust with no real reason? Wanted to raid the village anyway with everyone knowing about his identity in the first place, knew he could simply force Kaya to sign, ignoring the trust stuff.
Sry but I still don’t get it. Why waste years?
I only can understand that he wanted his men dead, bit why bother kill villagers? Or gain trust? Waste time?
May 10, 2022 7:49 AM
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The best way would have been to simply invite his men, kill them immediately at arrival, gain Kayas trust, get her sign, let her die naturally or with fake meds (easy peazy), own everything, be loved by everybody and when he’s bored, then kill all villagers and look for another excuse. The last part doesn’t have to be tho
Unless I still missed some points?

That way Luffy would never bother and if Nami or someone found out about his origin then we would have a logical plan, typically interrupted by Luffy then be defeated /\('-')/\
TrickiekingMay 10, 2022 7:55 AM
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He was tired of being a pirate, tired of being hunted like an animal, that's why he thought up his plan in the first place.

Framing pillaging pirates is the logical thing to do. Attacks happen on a daily basis.

If he killed Kaya immediately without spending 3 years at her side it wouldn't have made any sense for him to inherit her fortune. He had to become the loyal butler first to not raise suspicion + her parents were still alive when he was employed. It was them who took him in.

He couldn't care less about the lifes of the villagers. They were mere pawns on his chess board. The difference between a plan and a plan that's likely to succeed are the time invested and the sacrifices made. He's a "perfectionist" who needed to add layers. Of course he didn't expect that someone like Luffy would arrive.

Your plan sounds more convoluted tbh(look for another excuse xD)

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


May 10, 2022 12:11 PM
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FMmatron said:
@Trickieking


He was tired of being a pirate, tired of being hunted like an animal, that's why he thought up his plan in the first place.

Framing pillaging pirates is the logical thing to do. Attacks happen on a daily basis.

If he killed Kaya immediately without spending 3 years at her side it wouldn't have made any sense for him to inherit her fortune. He had to become the loyal butler first to not raise suspicion + her parents were still alive when he was employed. It was them who took him in.

He couldn't care less about the lifes of the villagers. They were mere pawns on his chess board. The difference between a plan and a plan that's likely to succeed are the time invested and the sacrifices made. He's a "perfectionist" who needed to add layers. Of course he didn't expect that someone like Luffy would arrive.

Your plan sounds more convoluted tbh(look for another excuse xD)

Wow I have never been insulted like this before! 😂
But okay I forgot about her parents bringing him in in the first place and I see the perfectionist part and that (bc of natures tendency to only adjust to the patient ones) he went through all those years. I still don’t see how stubborn he must’ve been to put up the image of the loyal butler in the first place, when his plan (maybe but probably) already included the death of every last villager-witnesses of his legitimacy as a loyal butler as well as his origin in piracy haha
Quite a guy to mess with!
Only his way of readjusting his glasses, hinting at his weapon of use-past, apparently wasn’t relevant enough to be bothered with.
But to downgrade my argumentation to that rather irrelevant detail! You deserve my eulogy you highness of such bright argumentation.

I still will remember your insult against my perfect, impeccable plan, carefully adjusted to Captain Blacks psychopathic being.
I understand your mastery of emphasizing with such a maniac perfectly, to the point where you can reveal his devilish plan, his motivations and desires, as a warning to society my friend!
May 10, 2022 1:38 PM

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Trickieking said:
FMmatron said:
@Trickieking


He was tired of being a pirate, tired of being hunted like an animal, that's why he thought up his plan in the first place.

Framing pillaging pirates is the logical thing to do. Attacks happen on a daily basis.

If he killed Kaya immediately without spending 3 years at her side it wouldn't have made any sense for him to inherit her fortune. He had to become the loyal butler first to not raise suspicion + her parents were still alive when he was employed. It was them who took him in.

He couldn't care less about the lifes of the villagers. They were mere pawns on his chess board. The difference between a plan and a plan that's likely to succeed are the time invested and the sacrifices made. He's a "perfectionist" who needed to add layers. Of course he didn't expect that someone like Luffy would arrive.

Your plan sounds more convoluted tbh(look for another excuse xD)

Wow I have never been insulted like this before! 😂
But okay I forgot about her parents bringing him in in the first place and I see the perfectionist part and that (bc of natures tendency to only adjust to the patient ones) he went through all those years. I still don’t see how stubborn he must’ve been to put up the image of the loyal butler in the first place, when his plan (maybe but probably) already included the death of every last villager-witnesses of his legitimacy as a loyal butler as well as his origin in piracy haha
Quite a guy to mess with!
Only his way of readjusting his glasses, hinting at his weapon of use-past, apparently wasn’t relevant enough to be bothered with.
But to downgrade my argumentation to that rather irrelevant detail! You deserve my eulogy you highness of such bright argumentation.

I still will remember your insult against my perfect, impeccable plan, carefully adjusted to Captain Blacks psychopathic being.
I understand your mastery of emphasizing with such a maniac perfectly, to the point where you can reveal his devilish plan, his motivations and desires, as a warning to society my friend!


Also, Syrup village isn't the only place on that island and that island in turn is part of an archipelago called the Gecko Islands. So there are more people than the villagers to worry about.

And yeah, empathizing with fucked up people comes natural to me 😈

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


May 10, 2022 3:20 PM
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Trickieking said:
For all who remember or recently watched the Syrup village Arc (Usopps Hometown):
What was Captain Blacks plan?

To summarize:

He was chased by marines,
wanted to leave piratehood for good,
started new as the butler of Kaya,
remained that for years,
comes out it’s only to gain her trust,
invited his former crew, that he intentionally left befor, for an invasion,
planned the timing of raid with them (I guess),
threatens, then straight up ignores Usopp after he found out,
no one believes Usopp,
Luffys crew beats half of the crew,
Black reveals himself as a killer/captain black to Kaya anyway,
talks about his actual plan to legally inherit Kayas belongings after her near NATURAL death,
does the exact opposite,
FORCES/THREATENS her to sign the last will contract,
“kills“ Luffy bc he beat his men (why?!),
slaughters his people himself,
also attacks the random pirate Luffy,
still wants Kayas stuff the legal way,
looses against Luffy,
Like WTH?!
Did I miss anything?!

He wanted kaya’s families money so he wanted to make her add him to her will then kill her
YO!
Ya-yo, ya-yo!
Dreamin'! Don't give it up, Luffy!
Dreamin'! Don't give it up, Zolo!
Dreamin'! Don't give it up, Nami!
Dreamin'!
Don't give it give it up give it up give it up give it up give it up give it up give it UP!
Here's how the story goes, we find out
'bout a treasure in the Grand Line, there's no doubt
The pirate whose eye is on it, he'll sing
I'll be King of the Pirates, I'm gonna be King!
Ya-yo, ya-yo, ya-yo... oh-ho...
His name is Luffy
(That's Monkey D. Luffy!)
Gonna be king of the pirates!
He's made of rubber!
(How did that happen?)
Yo-ho-ho, he took a bite of Gum Gum!

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