Did Magia Record really get better?
| I'm a big fan of Madoka, but I hated Magia Record, and it seemed that a lot of people agreed with me, according to its MAL score. However, I noticed that Season 2 of Magia Record has a rather good MAL score. Did it really get better or is it just something for people that liked the first season? I'm considering picking it up again, but I don't know. Edit 10/2/2021: I noticed that the MAL score tanked after it ended. Should I still check it out? |
fluffycow17Oct 2, 2021 8:25 PM
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| Yeah. The first episode especially was significantly better in my opinion and the animation quality is a lot nicer |
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False_Mirror said: The first season had its problems, but there's no reall reason to hate it. So if someone really hates it, then he must have some strange reasons for this, such as "it violated the sacred image of the original" or similar absurdity. In this case, you shouldn't watch the second season. In general, the second season is certainly better than the first. It has a smooth and consistent pacing, focuses on a small cast of well-characterized characters and fix the holes in the world building. Well, I hate it, and I don't think that my reason is absurd. I didn't care for the characters, the animation was subpar, and I felt that I was really wasting my time watching it. I know that it isn't Madoka Magica, but it really didn't feel like Madoka Magica. I didn't like it, so I dropped it. |
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| Let's put it this way: If you've already finished season 1, then watch episode 1 of season 2. That one is unlikely to disappoint you. Then, watch episode 2. If episode 2 is not to your liking, then it's time to move back to something else. --- Or you could always wait until season 2 is over and wait for reviews if you didn't finish season 1. Note that there is a season 3, so the story doesn't end there. |
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| So far it's looking to be quite an improvement over Season 1, mainly because it's taking huge deviations from the mobile game's story and going about it in its own way, so the pacing feels more a lot more balanced. Imo, the biggest issue with Season 1 is that they tried to be too faithful in adapting from the mobile game, cramming all the mini-arcs that introduce the main characters into just 12 episodes, which made the whole thing feel super rushed and clusterfucky. |
| No. Season two is just as good as season one, except for the animation, which has really improved. As for the story, don't be fooled by the reviews, it's still a pain in the ass to watch. The doppels, the rumors, the connect, none of that is explained, things just exist or just happen and the public must accept them even if they have no reason to. The anime continues with a bad pacing, sometimes too rushed, sometimes too slow, with poor use of soundtracks that makes some scenes strange and undermines their potential, with few really good moments. The anime's score improved simply because those who didn't like the first season didn't come back to see the second. There's one positive thing about season two, the fact that the anime's story is diverging from the game's story in some way and seems to be following a more original route. I have no doubt that Inu Curry and Katsuhiko Takayama can deliver a better job than whoever wrote the game's history. But currently, I wouldn't recommend anyone to watch Magia Record. |
| "If someone says it's wrong to hope, I'll tell them they're wrong every single time." |
| What I can confirm that Magia Record has a solid story, just like the original series. Most people don't care about the characters just because they haven't seem or known them long enough, but will get excited to see any of the cast from the original series. That makes sense cuz the first Season just introduces the characters. There's a lot of mystery too, which remains mystery till the end of season, so yeah Season 1 does nothing other than just introducing the characters. Now those who know the characters already, will be more invested in the story. Many people got hyped just by seeing Madoka in the final scene. That only works because you know Madoka; replace it with any other character from Magia Record and hype dies for anime only watchers, but increases among Magia Record players. So in the end it's just the hype. The percentage of Anime only watchers is significantly higher, because Magia Record English never made out of NA, and shutdown last year. Why certain anime get such a high score? It's the hype. Fans giving 10/10 increase the score, and fans of Magia Record are non-existential in the west. The Madoka Magica fans hate it because they expected Madoka Magica, but it seems something completely different in first season. So Magia Record had some anti-hype during first season. The second season started high because the first episode is Madoka Magica with original chracters. The animation also got better, and the characters are already there, so the character stories move forward too. Tbh if you're someone who loves the world mechanics of Madoka Magica, you'll love Magia Record too, since first season plot is basically similarities and differences between the universes. So yes, Season 2 is a step up from Season 1, atleast in terms of animation, rest is subjective. The world building + fan service takes all the 13 episodes of Season 1, and you'll love it or hate it depending on what you love about Madoka Magica. Second Season is worth it if you love the original cast, cuz they'll be getting involved finally. It might reveal the lore of Magia Record too, so if you have theories about the universe or characters, you can watch it. I guess these are the only things people are looking forward to. But Season 3 is the final season, so they'll save something for that too. So just keep on watching. If you survived first season, you'll surely survive this one. Finally, it partially depends on what you expect from them story. If you don't have any question after watching first season, watching it further is pointless, unless you just want to watch the original cast. |
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Ryoketsu said: The doppels, the rumors, the connect, none of that is explained, things just exist or just happen and the public must accept them even if they have no reason to. I agree, they never explained what is Tiro Finale too :/ Magia Record is not the first time you're seeing the concept of Doppel or Connect. All this was already hinted in Rebellion, when Madoka and Mami join hands and pink + yellow ribbons shoot like arrows, or when Madoka and Homura join hands to form a new bow and arrow to break Incubator's seal. We see Sayaka calling her witch by harming herself in Rebellion. That's a Doppel. Just because some attacks now have name, doesn't mean they are some new concept. Why Connect exists? It allows to to combine powers or magical girls. How it exists: Adjusted Magic. Why Doppels exist? So that magical don't witch out. How it's done? Well wait for story to explain it, or take hint from Kyubey when he explains everything to Homura in Rebellion. Similarly Rumours serve some purpose. They don't drop grief seeds, which means they were not originally magical girls. And some rumours are good, like Ai-Chan. Pretty clear they aren't witches. Why they exist comes later in story. How they exist? All these concepts have some sort of pseudo scientific explanation too. So wait for that. |
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False_Mirror said: Ryoketsu said: The doppels, the rumors none of that is explained It's literally explained in the second episode If you think that just saying "Nemu created the rumors" and "Touka created the doppels" is enough, that's good for you. This is not enough for me to take these concepts seriously, as in the mythology established by the original series there is no basis for convincing me that such things are possible. Nemu created the rumors? What exactly are the rumors? What kind of power does Nemu need to create them? How does she create them? What is the process? Touka has thrown a barrier over the city that prevents the witches from appearing and replaces this with a "partial and reversible witchfication". How did she do it? How does her power work? How do doppels work? Saying that Nemu created the rumors and that Touka created the doppels doesn't answer anything. False_Mirror said: Ryoketsu said: I have no doubt that Inu Curry and Katsuhiko Takayama can deliver a better job than whoever wrote the game's history Game story mostly was written by Doro-inu from inu Curry. No one is named on the game's credits page, the script is assigned to "f4scenario team", whoever they are. |
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False_Mirror said: Yeah, but "Kyuubey created the magical girls-witches system" - is enough for you right? Yes, because we're talking about setting the rules for a world that didn't have them yet. Concepts like the existence of witches, contracts and magical girls are accepted in the original series because they are world rules, and rules don't need explanation, they just need to be respected and have an internal coherence. The case of rumors, doppels and connect is different because they are not things that are simply supposed to exist in this world because this world is the way it is. Creating these new concepts is not the same as creating rules in a world that hitherto had no rules, it is instead contradicting previously established rules. For example, let's talk about a previously established rule which is: when a magical girl has her soul gem entirely corrupted, she is turned into a witch. This is what is expected to happen. Anything other than that needs to be very well explained, as the original series did in establishing the origin of the Law of Cycles: you can understand what was the process that led Madoka to be able to accomplish what she did and why it made sense. Doppels are also a "violation" of this rule and, therefore, they need an explanation as good as Madoka's wish. If doppels are not explained properly, I cannot see them as anything other than an actual violation of the rules of this world. To paraphrase an author who wrote a great and concise text on the importance of rules and their relationship to the suspension of disbelief: "if readers aren’t clear on the rules of your story world, you risk toppling their desire to believe". Rules are fundamentally important to suspending disbelief and immersing yourself in a story. I have issues with Magia Record because, among other reasons, the rules in the world of this spin-off are anything but clear and consistent with what was pre-established in the original series. More references on the subject: https://springhole.net/writing/setting-limitations-in-your-world.htm https://www.moiyamctier.com/post/responsibilities-of-a-worldbuilder |
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Ryoketsu said: False_Mirror said: Yeah, but "Kyuubey created the magical girls-witches system" - is enough for you right? Yes, because we're talking about setting the rules for a world that didn't have them yet. Concepts like the existence of witches, contracts and magical girls are accepted in the original series because they are world rules, and rules don't need explanation, they just need to be respected and have an internal coherence. The case of rumors, doppels and connect is different because they are not things that are simply supposed to exist in this world because this world is the way it is. Creating these new concepts is not the same as creating rules in a world that hitherto had no rules, it is instead contradicting previously established rules. For example, let's talk about a previously established rule which is: when a magical girl has her soul gem entirely corrupted, she is turned into a witch. This is what is expected to happen. Anything other than that needs to be very well explained, as the original series did in establishing the origin of the Law of Cycles: you can understand what was the process that led Madoka to be able to accomplish what she did and why it made sense. Doppels are also a "violation" of this rule and, therefore, they need an explanation as good as Madoka's wish. If doppels are not explained properly, I cannot see them as anything other than an actual violation of the rules of this world. To paraphrase an author who wrote a great and concise text on the importance of rules and their relationship to the suspension of disbelief: "if readers aren’t clear on the rules of your story world, you risk toppling their desire to believe". Rules are fundamentally important to suspending disbelief and immersing yourself in a story. I have issues with Magia Record because, among other reasons, the rules in the world of this spin-off are anything but clear and consistent with what was pre-established in the original series. More references on the subject: https://springhole.net/writing/setting-limitations-in-your-world.htm https://www.moiyamctier.com/post/responsibilities-of-a-worldbuilder The rules of this world, along with the world itself, and why and how it exists, is well defined. The viewer only knows as much the protagonist knows, so you'll know it when Iroha knows it. Almost each episode has introduced a piece that doesn't make sense on it's own, but it'll all come together eventually. Magia Record doesn't do anything new. It takes whatever you have already seen in Madoka Magica, but assigns it to different people with different karmic debt. You just have to figure out who's working as the substitute of whom. |
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| I have not played the game, but from what I can assume, Doppels must've other forms of consequences that haven't been fully explored yet (in the anime anyway). From what I can gather thus far: "Rumors/Uwasa capture/kidnap people", as it was mentioned in episode 2 of this season. The loli... eh, Touka(?) said that they had the remaining Uwasa capture more people to compensate the ones Yachiyo destroyed. What is the purpose of capturing people? I suspect that Doppels, Uwasa and those captured people are all linked together. Perhaps Magius is sacrificing normal people to save magical girls. I could imagine a twist like this. In the original series, the "big shock" is when they learn the truth about magical girls. Perhaps this spinoff's "big shock" is when they learn the truth about doppels. |
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Ryoketsu said: No. As for the story, don't be fooled by the reviews, it's still a pain in the ass to watch. The doppels, the rumors, the connect, none of that is explained, things just exist or just happen and the public must accept them even if they have no reason to. I'll concede that Connect Magic is not really explained, but that's only 'cause the game itself doesn't even bother to do so since it's never used in story cutscenes or anything; it's just an in-game battle mechanic that was brought over to the anime (for the sake of fanservice and added flashiness, I guess). However, believe me when I say that Doppels, Rumors/Uwasa and the Kamihama Barrier will (or should) be properly explained in due time; around the same time that the truth behind Ui Tamaki's Disappearance is revealed. Just try to be a little patient. The OG Madoka series also took its time before finally revealing most of its mysteries, remember? (Comparatively less time, sure, but then again OG Madoka wasn't adapting a larger-scale story from a game that's chock-full of characters and dialogue). |
OrororurandoAug 16, 2021 6:49 PM
salarx said: The viewer only knows as much the protagonist knows, so you'll know it when Iroha knows it. And that's a problem, because just what Iroha knows isn't enough to convince me to believe this story. Not when a lot of unexpected things happen (based on the rules established by the original series) and I'm asked to accept them for no good reason, because the anime deprives the audience of information that is essential to understanding the story at the most basic level and will only reveal them God knows when. salarx said: The rules of this world, along with the world itself, and why and how it exists, is well defined. [...] Almost each episode has introduced a piece that doesn't make sense on it's own, but it'll all come together eventually. Magia Record doesn't do anything new. It takes whatever you have already seen in Madoka Magica, but assigns it to different people with different karmic debt. You just have to figure out who's working as the substitute of whom. You don't realize how much essential information is missing at the beginning of the anime because you knew everything before it started. As someone who is just watching the anime, I can't accept a lot of things with the small amount of information the story has given so far, and don't expect me to accept everything just for the promise that things will make sense in the end. I don't want things to just make sense at the end of the story, I want them to make sense now. Stygian_Prisoner said: The OG Madoka series also took its time before finally revealing most of its mysteries, remember? Yes, but the original series didn't deprive the audience of information essential to understanding the story or the workings of the world. You already knew from the second episode that witches are manifestations of despair, and it was enough to know just that for the first few episodes to make sense, before the true nature of witches was revealed. Imagine what it would be like if you didn't have that basic information about witches since the second episode, and the anime took until the twelfth episode to say that they are manifestations of despair. Or, imagine what it would be like if the anime took longer than a cour to say what a contract is. That's what Magia Record is doing with the doppels and the rumors. False_Mirror said: Ryoketsu said: Well, not really, we just accept it, because it's not really important.you can understand what was the process that led Madoka to be able to accomplish what she did and why it made sense. Actually yes, that made total sense, and it's really important. It would be terrible if the author had simply written whatever nonsense came to mind, not caring whether it was coherent or not. This would break the rules of the world, which in turn would ruin the audience's immersion. It's okay if you accepted the anime's ending without understanding it, but it's perfectly coherent and that just makes the anime even better. In short, Madoka was able to do what she did because she had an incomprehensibly large amount of power, and she had all that power because Homura went through all those time loops in order to save her. It was previously established that a magical girl's power is defined by "the weight of her karmic destiny", that is, by the amount or magnitude of causal effects tied to the girl's existence. Thus, when Homura goes through all those time loops with the sole purpose of saving Madoka, she adds the effects caused by her interference in each timeline to Madoka's "karmic burden", as none of that would happen if Madoka didn't exist. With all this power, Madoka makes a paradoxical wish, which demands that she exist and not exist simultaneously, something impossible and that shouldn't happen, but it happens because Madoka has so much power that she can "beat" universal laws as in a cosmic tug of war. However, by becoming someone who simultaneously should and shouldn't exist, Madoka becomes a paradox. By becoming a paradox, that is, an existence that does not make sense, Madoka ceases to exist as a person in this reality and starts to exist "outside" of reality, in that "empty space" in which she had her last dialogue with Homura. This is the kind of explanation a story needs to make to change a pre-established rule like the rule that magical girls turn into witches. If the story ever wants to say something other than that, of course the audience will ask why, and the reason needs to be very solid. It is never merely a matter of saying "It was that way, it's not like that anymore, accept it." |
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| Season 1 of Magia Record is indeed hit and miss, you have to need some knowledge and understand the characters from the game to appreciate it. Season 2 going strong as eps progresses because we know the main objective. |
False_Mirror said: Some of your criticism is based on prejudice to the sours material, while the other is just a continuation of the criticism of the first season, which is unfair. Already in the ep2 of the second season, the viewer receives information about what doppels are. And in the ep3, we observe the effect produced by it on a specific example, at the same time plunging into the characterization of the main character. So at the moment, we don't know just why everything works exactly like this in Kamihama - but as you noticed above - in the original show, we also learned such details only in the last quarter of the show. You definitely don't understand what I'm trying to say. You think the information the anime has given so far is enough to convince the audience to believe that it is possible for there to be doppels and rumors in this world, I don't think so. These things don't exist in the original series. If they have to exist in Magia Record, it has to have a good reason, and - according to you - the anime is hiding this reason to reveal it only at the last part of the story, asking the audience to accept the existence of these things for no reason until the final acts. It's good for a story to have mysteries, but they can't be based on omitting information essential to understanding the story at the most basic level. The original series did reveal things in the later episodes, but it wasn't information that was absolutely necessary to understand, on a basic level, what was going on in the first few episodes. Before the "great revelations", it was already possible to understand what magical girls were, what witches were, what a contract was, why magical girls had to fight witches, why some magical girls fought amongst themselves, etc. Magia Record doesn't do that. It is not possible to understand, at the most basic of levels of understanding, why things are the way they are in this anime. Think of these examples that I mentioned in my last comment, that's exactly how I see Magia Record dealing with rumors and doppels. Ryoketsu said: [...] the original series didn't deprive the audience of information essential to understanding the story or the workings of the world. You already knew from the second episode that witches are manifestations of despair, and it was enough to know just that for the first few episodes to make sense, before the true nature of witches was revealed. Imagine what it would be like if you didn't have that basic information about witches since the second episode, and the anime took until the twelfth episode to say that they are manifestations of despair. Or, imagine what it would be like if the anime took longer than a cour to say what a contract is. That's what Magia Record is doing with the doppels and the rumors. |
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Ryoketsu said: You definitely don't understand what I'm trying to say. You think the information the anime has given so far is enough to convince the audience to believe that it is possible for there to be doppels and rumors in this world, I don't think so. These things don't exist in the original series. If they have to exist in Magia Record, it has to have a good reason, and - according to you - the anime is hiding this reason to reveal it only at the last part of the story, asking the audience to accept the existence of these things for no reason until the final acts. It's good for a story to have mysteries, but they can't be based on omitting information essential to understanding the story at the most basic level. The original series did reveal things in the later episodes, but it wasn't information that was absolutely necessary to understand, on a basic level, what was going on in the first few episodes. Before the "great revelations", it was already possible to understand what magical girls were, what witches were, what a contract was, why magical girls had to fight witches, why some magical girls fought amongst themselves, etc. Magia Record doesn't do that. It is not possible to understand, at the most basic of levels of understanding, why things are the way they are in this anime. Think of these examples that I mentioned in my last comment, that's exactly how I see Magia Record dealing with rumors and doppels. I mean you never how Kyubey or anyone every explain how witches are manifested. They just come out when Magical Girl run out of the Magical Energy. You just accepted that a Witch will come out cuz that's what was shown. If Kyubey confirmed Kyouko's theory and it worked (that if you cut that witch, Sayaka will come alive), you'll probably accept too. It's not that Witches are the Ultimate reality. He has created such system so that he can collect energy. But Kyubey clearly isn't in Kamihama. Infact it's hinted he can't even enter Kamihama. That alone should alter the witchification process. Kyubey not being in Kamihama itself explains why things are slightly different. The existence of Doppels is as clear and vague as the existence of Magical Girls and Witches. |
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| short answer: yes it is much better overall, if you liked season 1 at its peak, you will also like this, if you hated season 1 even at its best points, this is still better, but not better enough to change your mind long answer: while the first season was mostly a slow burner character driven introduction with characters that were far too one dimensional to make it interesting, this season is actually moving on with the plot. it also connects to the original timeline, in a way that if it goes well, I think this should be seen before rebellion for new comers, since it can add even more impact to the final twist. as far as the art and animation goes, and as good as the first season looked, this season is on another level. with how great the art was in both seasons, and the weekly sakuga in this one, this thing is scarily close to looking as good as or at times even better than madoka magica rebellion. it also recently had a full episode with the same-ish concept as rebellion, which was a delight, considering how rushed the explanation of that concept was in the original. with this being connected to Walpurgisnacht as we saw in season one, and the new madoka magica movie also having something to do with the same thing, i really think this is worth watching, even if you don't like it for its story, i still think its worth a shot because of its art, animation, direction and music. |
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salarx said: I mean you never how Kyubey or anyone every explain how witches are manifested. They just come out when Magical Girl run out of the Magical Energy. You just accepted that a Witch will come out cuz that's what was shown. If Kyubey confirmed Kyouko's theory and it worked (that if you cut that witch, Sayaka will come alive), you'll probably accept too. It's not that Witches are the Ultimate reality. He has created such system so that he can collect energy. But Kyubey clearly isn't in Kamihama. Infact it's hinted he can't even enter Kamihama. That alone should alter the witchification process. Kyubey not being in Kamihama itself explains why things are slightly different. The existence of Doppels is as clear and vague as the existence of Magical Girls and Witches. You missed one of the points I've already made, the existence of magical girls or witches in the original series is accepted because they are world rules, and rules need no explanation: things are just the way they are because the world it's the way it is. Doppels and rumors are not that, they are modifications or additions to previously established rules. If this were a new anime, starting to establish a new mythology from scratch, the anime could say that horses fly and it wouldn't need any explanation for it, suffice it to say that this is how things work in this world. It's a completely different case if the anime establishes that horses don't fly and, a few episodes later, horses appear to fly. In this case, a good explanation is needed. |
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Ryoketsu said: It's a completely different case if the anime establishes that horses don't fly and, a few episodes later, horses appear to fly. In this case, a good explanation is needed. Don't know about horses, but given enough Magical energy, even elephants can fly (Rebellion reference). There's no limit to what a Magical Wish can grant. It can change the very fabric of universe, sure it can make horses fly. Magic can erase all the witches of the present, past, future, throughout all the Parallel Universes and timelines and replace them with Wraiths. If you can accept that, I think you shouldn't have hard time accepting that Doppel, a slight modification of witches can exist in a small city called Kamihama, with the help of magic. |
salarxAug 18, 2021 11:09 AM
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salarx said: Magic can erase all the witches of the present, past, future, throughout all the Parallel Universes and timelines and replace them with Wraiths. If you can accept that, I think you shouldn't have hard time accepting that Doppel, a slight modification of witches can exist in a small city called Kamihama, with the help of magic. The difference is that the original series made it clear enough what was the process that led to the eradication of witches, and that's precisely what I've been criticizing Magia Record for not doing. When Madoka's wish was granted in the original series, the explanation was there and it all made sense. In Magia Record, the doppels and rumors have been there for several episodes and so far the anime didn't bother to explain why. |
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Ryoketsu said: The difference is that the original series made it clear enough what was the process that led to the eradication of witches, and that's precisely what I've been criticizing Magia Record for not doing. When Madoka's wish was granted in the original series, the explanation was there and it all made sense. In Magia Record, the doppels and rumors have been there for several episodes and so far the anime didn't bother to explain why. Would you say same thing about Rebellion too? Where the nightmares just existed? Or would you say same about the fact Homura in the original series, and the fact Kyubey didn't know who Homura was? There's no rule that cause should be presented before the effect. Rebellion presents the effect before the cause too. Even Neon Genesis Evangelion does that. But when Magia Record does it, it becomes a problem smh. Not saying Magia Record is a master piece or anything, but the problem definitely isn't the mystery not revealed or explanation kept for later. |
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salarx said: Would you say same thing about Rebellion too? Where the nightmares just existed? No, because from the first moments the film was concerned with making it clear that there was something profoundly different in that world, with beings that resemble witches' familiars jumping to and fro, in addition to the presence of Madoka. In addition, Rebellion is a movie whose questions created at the beginning are answered during the course of the session, the moment of "confusion" lasts less than 30 minutes. In the case of Magia Record, on the other hand, there are 16 episodes without a satisfactory explanation for several questions. salarx said: Or would you say same about the fact Homura in the original series, and the fact Kyubey didn't know who Homura was? No, because this is not essential information for understanding what is happening in the story. salarx said: There's no rule that cause should be presented before the effect. You're right, but it's highly recommended that, when telling a story, you give the audience the minimum amount of essential information about how things work so they can understand that your world is not a mess without rules, since their suspension of disbelief depends on it. houlouk said: ok for doppels but I don't see why rumors contradict madoka's world They didn't exist in the original series. For me, that's reason enough that if they exist now, it needs a good explanation for it to be accepted. houlouk said: (and Ryoketsu that love harm himself) Honestly, I didn't want to be watching this season, but I manage a fanpage related to Madoka Magica on a social network, so... |
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houlouk said: Ryoketsu said: You're right, but it's highly recommended that, when telling a story, you give the audience the minimum amount of essential information about how things work so they can understand that your world is not a mess without rules, since their suspension of disbelief depends on it. Yes, but this minimal amount depends (not totally of course) of the viewer For me, what we know in magia record now is enough to believe the story Even if I don't understand everything You are the one who best understood this point of my criticism about the anime, thank you. houlouk said: I think that the problem is that characters themself did not seem to bother about the abnormalities (or they don't show it often enough or too late). Even if we don't know why it is abnormal, it should be at least shown at the beginning that it is abnormal and regulary show that the characters are worried about that We agree on that. |
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| while watching a part of episode 2, i was able to compare the beautiful animation of Yachiyo's water based attacks and then a bit later see the little kyuubei climbing the sakura tree. look closely at the tree bark, there was literally no effort put in it. this leads me to 2 possible outcomes. either they made a higher effort for the parts that mattered and it looks better and we'll love the series for its good points. or the series is about to turn much worse because of the amount of effort put into a few scenes and the quality will plummet as the series goes. now, i really fucking loved that mifuyu vs yachiyo fight.holy shit that was nice to watch |
LustrousParadox said: while watching a part of episode 2, i was able to compare the beautiful animation of Yachiyo's water based attacks and then a bit later see the little kyuubei climbing the sakura tree. look closely at the tree bark, there was literally no effort put in it. I noticed it too. Looks like a case of bad CG model. Hopefully will be fixed in bluray. |
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salarx said: LustrousParadox said: while watching a part of episode 2, i was able to compare the beautiful animation of Yachiyo's water based attacks and then a bit later see the little kyuubei climbing the sakura tree. look closely at the tree bark, there was literally no effort put in it. I noticed it too. Looks like a case of bad CG model. Hopefully will be fixed in bluray. Nevertheless i hope the animation of the fights stays top notch. Maybe this side story is to hype reassemble the madoka fans before the 4th movie…? |
LustrousParadox said: salarx said: I noticed it too. Looks like a case of bad CG model. Hopefully will be fixed in bluray. Nevertheless i hope the animation of the fights stays top notch. Maybe this side story is to hype reassemble the madoka fans before the 4th movie…? I don't think so. Magia Record exists since 2017 and we still have to get a date for 4th movie. It surely funded the movie though, and resurrected fans who were basically dead waiting. The main objective of the anime is to promote the game. |
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| This is significantly better than the first season IMO. The whole story is much more interesting. |
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| Its not that much better but it definitely is better. The reason for the big score difference is probably the people that disliked the first not watching the second |
ClobbopusSep 8, 2021 10:37 AM
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salarx said: LustrousParadox said: Nevertheless i hope the animation of the fights stays top notch. Maybe this side story is to hype reassemble the madoka fans before the 4th movie…? I don't think so. Magia Record exists since 2017 and we still have to get a date for 4th movie. It surely funded the movie though, and resurrected fans who were basically dead waiting. The main objective of the anime is to promote the game. Good to know. thank you! |
| its alright, and slowly getting more interesting but one of my harder anime to watch this season |
| So, the season ended, and the MAL score tanked. Is it still better than season 1? |
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