kisaki's reason

Shajath1 said:
As a villain he is on whole other level. He can counter his probs in a smarter way even against a time leaper.

But his reason is kinda CRAP!!!

Tamura said:
Yeah man. It's Obito all over again

lequan15 said:


Actually his reason make him parallel tackemchi even more so it made him better

Annihilator_xD said:
is it just me or the reason tetta kisaki did all that shit was generic asf, like idk how many times i've seen a story in which the villain does all the evil shit because of one girl. and here i was thinking that kisaki had an actually unique reason. sigh

faderunner said:


Original ideas are a scarcity in fiction. It shouldn't matter if you've seen it before though, all that matters is how well you think the story is told.

That said, I do think you're oversimplifying Kisaki quite a bit. There's a lot more to Kisaki than simply unrequited love.

Remember, Kisaki didn't actually know Hina, so he couldn't have actually been in love with her, only the idea of her.

He made her into an object of desire, and I think if you examine why you'll develop a broader understanding of Kisaki.

Why did he do the things that he did? Why did he go to the lengths that he did? Why didn't he pursue Hina by more conventional methods? Why did he feel he needed power to attain Hina's affections? Did he not feel he was good enough without it, why not? Why did Kisaki feel inadequate at all?

Kisaki reminds me a lot of Walter White/Heisenberg from Breaking Bad. In case you're unfamiliar, the premise is that of a dying man initially turning to crime to provide for his family, who is then corrupted by the power that fed a deep pit of inadequacy he had been living with for most of his life.

Specifically, Kisaki's relationship with Hina somewhat parallels that of Walt and Gretchen, a love from Walt's past; they were serious but she came from a family so rich his inadequacy drove him to suddenly break up with her and leave the company they found together with a friend, who she then later married. The company went on to be worth hundreds of millions while Walt lived the live of an extremely over-qualified high school chemistry teacher before his cancer diagnosis and the financial implications of it drove him to break bad and set upon a path that would lead to many deaths and severed relationships.

In the end, Walter White admits he really did it all for himself. He liked it. It made him feel alive. Like he was living up to his potential. Adequate.

Kisaki was no different. He wasn't doing what he did for anyone but himself. He wasn't in love with Hina any more than he was obsessed with Mikey. His obsession with power born from a sense of inadequacy and low self manifested itself through fixations with Hina, Mikey, and Takemichi. He didn't know any of them. He was obsessed with the idea of them, what they represented.

Mikey was his means to and end for power; Hina was the measure of his self worth; and Takemichi was the embodiment of courage he lacked to accept himself and thus the rival to destroy to prove himself victorious.

In the end, Kisaki could never accept himself. That's why he lost.

He failed to overcome his inadequacy and died a very lonely person because of it.

Not only is he an interesting character, in his own ways, he's kind of a tragic figure too.

It shouldn't matter if you've seen it before though, all that matters is how well you think the story is told.

Leysoh said:
wow that was actually a really nice analysis, really enjoyed reading your post

Leysoh said:
i've never actually thought of that in fiction, now i'll see the story a lot differently

faderunner said:


Original ideas are a scarcity in fiction. It shouldn't matter if you've seen it before though, all that matters is how well you think the story is told.

That said, I do think you're oversimplifying Kisaki quite a bit. There's a lot more to Kisaki than simply unrequited love.

Remember, Kisaki didn't actually know Hina, so he couldn't have actually been in love with her, only the idea of her.

He made her into an object of desire, and I think if you examine why you'll develop a broader understanding of Kisaki.

Why did he do the things that he did? Why did he go to the lengths that he did? Why didn't he pursue Hina by more conventional methods? Why did he feel he needed power to attain Hina's affections? Did he not feel he was good enough without it, why not? Why did Kisaki feel inadequate at all?

Kisaki reminds me a lot of Walter White/Heisenberg from Breaking Bad. In case you're unfamiliar, the premise is that of a dying man initially turning to crime to provide for his family, who is then corrupted by the power that fed a deep pit of inadequacy he had been living with for most of his life.

Specifically, Kisaki's relationship with Hina somewhat parallels that of Walt and Gretchen, a love from Walt's past; they were serious but she came from a family so rich his inadequacy drove him to suddenly break up with her and leave the company they found together with a friend, who she then later married. The company went on to be worth hundreds of millions while Walt lived the life of an extremely over-qualified high school chemistry teacher before his cancer diagnosis and the financial implications of it drove him to break bad and set upon a path that would lead to many deaths and severed relationships.

In the end, Walter White admits he really did it all for himself. He liked it. It made him feel alive. Like he was living up to his potential. Adequate.

Kisaki was no different. He wasn't doing what he did for anyone but himself. He wasn't in love with Hina any more than he was obsessed with Mikey. His obsession with power born from a sense of inadequacy and low self manifested itself through fixations with Hina, Mikey, and Takemichi. He didn't know any of them. He was obsessed with the idea of them, what they represented.

Mikey was his means to and end for power; Hina was the measure of his self worth; and Takemichi was the embodiment of courage he lacked to accept himself and thus the rival to destroy to prove himself victorious.

In the end, Kisaki could never accept himself. That's why he lost.

He failed to overcome his inadequacy and died a very lonely person because of it.

Not only is he an interesting character, in his own ways, he's kind of a tragic figure too.

Annihilator_xD said:

woah, what can i say man you nailed it with the reply
thanks to your well thought-out analysis, i see kisaki from a different perspective now.