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Apr 12, 2021 6:44 PM
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I just wanna leave this in writing off the rip. I know they are gonna try to redeem akito throughout this season, but theres nothing they can do to make me like her. Literally nothing. She might be top 10 hated characters of all time for me.
Apr 12, 2021 7:17 PM
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I don't like her very much either, and the worst thing is that they will probably redeem her by contrasting with someone worse, that is Ren. I don't find that a good way to engage with a character. Besides that, her relationship with Shigure gave me yikes vibes.
Apr 12, 2021 8:29 PM
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I hate Akito so much that I enjoy a normally terrible character like Ren just because she causes Akito grief. Seeing her in grief just makes me happy after what she did to Tohru and Kyou in S2.
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Apr 12, 2021 8:48 PM
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She's pretty much irredeemable for me at this point. No amount of trauma that Akito underwent justifies what she did to Yuki, Kyo, Hatori, Isuzu, Risa/Hiro, etc. She nearly killed Isuzu because she feared that Isuzu was taking Haru away from her. The only reason she continues to be such a horrible person is because Tohru exists. It's obvious Akito wants to be Tohru, who is loved by all the cursed Sohmas simply by being kind to them, but for some reason, she can't even manage an ounce of sincerity and love for anyone, despite telling them that she loves them. I understand that Akito extremely fears loneliness, but she ties the cursed Sohmas to her by instilling fear and hopelessness into them; no wonder she's resented. I don't care that we're supposed to empathize with her character this season. She's done irrevocably terrifying things to children as an adult and there's no justification for that.
Apr 12, 2021 8:57 PM
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I don't think I will like Akito by the end of the series...but I also don't think we're really supposed to. I don't exactly remember how the manga ends for the character....but meh.

Totally agree that some characters are just irredeemable. Abusing other humans is a no-no.



Apr 12, 2021 9:47 PM
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VZLAluis said:
I just wanna leave this in writing off the rip. I know they are gonna try to redeem akito throughout this season, but theres nothing they can do to make me like her. Literally nothing. She might be top 10 hated characters of all time for me.
honestly I agree, I don’t really like her but now that we’re starting to find out about her side of the story it frustrates me cause I can’t hate her properly 💀😂 she’s a well-written character but she does get on my nerves. I don’t know if I’ll be able to like her, but I am starting to pity her.
Apr 12, 2021 10:03 PM
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I hate Akito more than I've hated any other villain. Completely irredeemable to me at this point
Apr 12, 2021 11:50 PM
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I really dislike her too and don't see any way of redeeming her, especially seeing how they are kinda going about it now, making it just poor girl being weak. We saw her do horrible stuff from gross emotional abuse to actual attempts to kill, the fact her mom hates her can explain stuff but doesn't redeem her, only she is responsible for things she did.

And tbh I'm dreading the fact that there will most likely be no consequences for her actions, I don't get why horrible people always get away with stuff in shows just cause they had sad childhood, the rest of the cast had hard past too and everyone managed not to throw anyone out of a window, you just need some decency and Akito doesn't have that.
Apr 13, 2021 12:54 AM
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I really dislike her too and don't see any way of redeeming her, especially seeing how they are kinda going about it now, making it just poor girl being weak. We saw her do horrible stuff from gross emotional abuse to actual attempts to kill, the fact her mom hates her can explain stuff but doesn't redeem her, only she is responsible for things she did.

And tbh I'm dreading the fact that there will most likely be no consequences for her actions, I don't get why horrible people always get away with stuff in shows just cause they had sad childhood, the rest of the cast had hard past too and everyone managed not to throw anyone out of a window, you just need some decency and Akito doesn't have that.


Yes, I was about to write something pretty much similar. Honestly I'm glad seeing that people aren't eager to change their opinion and switch sides just because suddenly we get to see that ooh, Akito is in pain too, of course she's angry now, it's just her defence. NO, PLEASE DON'T. Whatever bad happened to you it doesn't make you eligible to make those around you suffer too. Cause them traumas physical and emotional because you don't want them to leave you? Why not try to be loving to them and take care of them instead? Thqt usually works. But honestly, the way Akito was treated as a child has probably imprinted onto her as the only way to treat people around you to get what you want. In many ways that's how psychology works, it's like when you take over your parents manners because that's how you were raised and it might very likely be subconscious. But in the end there is always a way to work on yourself and choose your own path, there should be some sense of right a wrong for you. You can try to work on your problems. It depends on your will. And Akito never did that. I can't sympathize with a grown-up who knowingly and repeatedly abused children. And as for the romance with Shigure, that just really disgusts me. :/
Apr 13, 2021 1:20 AM

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I completely despise her as a human being but she’s a very well-written character regarding of contributing the series interestingly. The romance between Shigure and her is absolutely disgusting and hella toxic. I still don’t like her parents tho that’s the thing. But still, it’s not her right to abuse the 12 members of the chinese zodiac in despair.
Apr 13, 2021 1:55 AM

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VZLAluis said:
I just wanna leave this in writing off the rip. I know they are gonna try to redeem akito throughout this season, but there's nothing they can do to make me like her. Literally nothing. She might be top 10 hated characters of all time for me.
Same for me. No matter what the circumstances of her growing up were, nothing justifies her past actions. Just because someone wasn't treated fairly during their childhood, doesn't mean you can harm and hurt everyone else, including Tohru. It is in no way an excuse.
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Elyssse said:
Yes, I was about to write something pretty much similar. Honestly I'm glad seeing that people aren't eager to change their opinion and switch sides just because suddenly we get to see that ooh, Akito is in pain too, of course she's angry now, it's just her defence. NO, PLEASE DON'T. Whatever bad happened to you it doesn't make you eligible to make those around you suffer too. Cause them traumas physical and emotional because you don't want them to leave you? Why not try to be loving to them and take care of them instead? Thqt usually works. But honestly, the way Akito was treated as a child has probably imprinted onto her as the only way to treat people around you to get what you want. In many ways that's how psychology works, it's like when you take over your parents manners because that's how you were raised and it might very likely be subconscious. But in the end there is always a way to work on yourself and choose your own path, there should be some sense of right a wrong for you. You can try to work on your problems. It depends on your will. And Akito never did that. I can't sympathize with a grown-up who knowingly and repeatedly abused children. And as for the romance with Shigure, that just really disgusts me. :/


Well said, I agree with everything you said here, even in the latest episode (2) they pointed out Akito is over 20 yo, probably so her relationship with Shigure doesn't look as bad lol, not that it helped btw, but she is a grown up adult abusing kids emotionally and physically. Bringing her mom into this like I said is a good way to develop her character but using a bad person to redeem another bad person is just disappointing.
Apr 13, 2021 2:20 AM

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Akito is my most favorite character in the series. I like her messing up everything and making an otherwise boring series interesting for me to watch.
Apr 13, 2021 3:32 AM

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#akitodidnothingwrong
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Apr 13, 2021 5:05 AM
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I really don't want to hate Akito but
Apr 13, 2021 5:06 AM
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I really don't want to hate Akito but
I'm joking, she has problems of her own that she has to deal with, just like everyone else.
Apr 13, 2021 7:19 AM
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She just needs a hug that’s all. XD On a real note I feel she’s been through a lot but it shouldn’t explain her actions. My hunch is that Tohru will help Akito in the end.
Apr 13, 2021 8:45 AM
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Her character is really good because it adds a villain, but i actually hate her, i mean yeah she was manipulated by her mom (that maybe later is going to be the evil one), but her actions were so harmful to everyone near her. Besides her relationship with Shigure is so TOXIC, i love it tho, its a more mature romance but still she is bad.
Apr 13, 2021 10:50 AM

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It's hard not to hate her, lol. Just because you're in pain (because of your mom or whatever), it's NOT an excuse to inflicting pain to others either. She's so toxic but actually a good villain character tho... usually, the redeemable scene of Akito should be her death protecting zodiacs or smth, hope that happens.

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Apr 13, 2021 2:03 PM
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If Fruits Basket has taught me one thing it's that it's far better to believe in people than always hate. Even before I learned the truth behind Akito (I finished the manga) I was always intrigued by her. I never really hated her because to me all her actions had a bigger meaning to me. Sure she's done terrible things and her past doesn't justify her actions. But I won't obsess over that. Hating over and over doesn't change anything here.

So yeah, I don't hate her. Never did, never will. She's actually one of my favorite characters in the entire series, right up there with Kyo and Tohru. What Akito needs isn't more hatred or punishment. I just want her to find real happiness. I don't know. Maybe this series taught me to be more forgiving and open to understanding.

P.S Without spoiling anything in the manga, there were a few chapters where I genuinely cried for her.
Apr 13, 2021 2:06 PM
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Pamelalee522 said:
She just needs a hug that’s all. XD On a real note I feel she’s been through a lot but it shouldn’t explain her actions. My hunch is that Tohru will help Akito in the end.


Honestly, the show never says her past justifies any of her actions. It does help us understand her actions though. That's the important part. I don't want to hate her. I just want to understand her more.
Apr 13, 2021 3:15 PM
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phantomslay5612 said:
Pamelalee522 said:
She just needs a hug that’s all. XD On a real note I feel she’s been through a lot but it shouldn’t explain her actions. My hunch is that Tohru will help Akito in the end.


Honestly, the show never says her past justifies any of her actions. It does help us understand her actions though. That's the important part. I don't want to hate her. I just want to understand her more.


Yes, I completely agree. I’m very excited to see how her character unfolds especially with shigure. I also do hope to get more background information and her past relationships with the zodiac members.
Apr 13, 2021 3:45 PM
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Kurdo said:
I don't usually hate characters but akito is someone you can't not hate, i don't care how painful her past is because everyone suffered as much if not more she's just horrible.


I guess I'm just a more forgiving person then. Because I just want her to realize her mistakes and find a better path.
Apr 13, 2021 4:08 PM
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Kurdo said:
phantomslay5612 said:

I guess I'm just a more forgiving person then. Because I just want her to realize her mistakes and find a better path.
probably you are, but i think she's broke beyond repair.


Who knows? Have you read the manga?
Apr 13, 2021 4:12 PM

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She is a terrible person and a huge bitch. The way she treats everyone is deplorable and just cause she has a terrible past does not excuse her current and past actions.

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Apr 13, 2021 4:20 PM
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Kurdo said:
phantomslay5612 said:


Who knows? Have you read the manga?
not really, just an assumption, and she is unless there's super major plot twist or something.


Okay then. Just give it time. Tohru, and by extension Fruits Basket, has taught me that it's better to hold out some hope for people rather than resort to hatred. And maybe later you'll see that she and Tohru, are much more alike than you may think.
Apr 13, 2021 4:34 PM
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VZLAluis said:
I just wanna leave this in writing off the rip. I know they are gonna try to redeem akito throughout this season, but theres nothing they can do to make me like her. Literally nothing. She might be top 10 hated characters of all time for me.


agree. She can’t be redeemed in my eyes
Apr 13, 2021 4:34 PM
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Kurdo said:
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Okay then. Just give it time. Tohru, and by extension Fruits Basket, has taught me that it's better to hold out some hope for people rather than resort to hatred. And maybe later you'll see that she and Tohru, are much more alike than you may think.
it's not like i hate her very much and i wish she'd die this instant, just her personality is just plain stupid there's actually no reason for why she did what she did till now (just because she was lonely, sad and jealous?), she attacked many zodiac members with killing intent many times why? No reason actually (probably she was just bored lol) probably she'll improve a little but it won't undo what she did i don't think I'll ever come to like her.


Those are some angry words there. You're assuming a lot of things, and many of them are incorrect. Like I said, give it time. No one can just go back and undo their mistakes. Not you. Not me. No one can. But should those mistakes and terrible things define us the rest of our lives?
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Kurdo said:
phantomslay5612 said:


Those are some angry words there. You're assuming a lot of things, and many of them are incorrect. Like I said, give it time. No one can just go back and undo their mistakes. Not you. Not me. No one can. But should those mistakes and terrible things define us the rest of our lives?
ofc no one can undo what they did but there's a scale of how terrible the things that one did are, it's not like the answer is either black or white there's scales between them and it also may differ by personal opinions but the fact she's terrible things unreasonably isn't arguable


I know. She did bad things and I'm not arguing against that. Just wait and give it time.
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I am very worried i may end up docking points for the series if they try to redeem her, its one thing to be unstable but she basically did attempted murder. It would be absurdly childish of this series to try and play it off like shes misunderstood cause of her past.

If they are going to try and redeem her, they need to portray her as legitimately losing everything first, if its just a slap on the wrist thats a huge problem

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Apr 13, 2021 10:13 PM
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I am very worried i may end up docking points for the series if they try to redeem her, its one thing to be unstable but she basically did attempted murder. It would be absurdly childish of this series to try and play it off like shes misunderstood cause of her past.

If they are going to try and redeem her, they need to portray her as legitimately losing everything first, if its just a slap on the wrist thats a huge problem

This is the main reason I even made this thread. I can feel they are gonna try to redeem her and its just gonna piss me off cause the pain she has cause all these other characters we love now is next level. Like the stuff she did is straight up not redeemable in my eyes, she has fully ruined the lives of a few of the zodiacs.
Apr 14, 2021 1:33 AM

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I read the manga a couple times over since I grew up with it and I’ll tell you rn I can’t stand Akito. Some people fall for the redemption arc trap I see a lot of older manga set up to give a character some understanding but I find that more disturbing, especially in a psychological anime.
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Apr 14, 2021 8:30 AM

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I can see where there's a lot of hate toward Akito since she only values the cursed Sohma for her own self-gratification of feeling loved, while disregarding their personal feelings. Even with her back story revealed and how later events play out with her character's developments in the manga, I still found it hard personally to sympathize with Akito given the physical and emotional abuse and manipulation she inflicted on the other Sohmas. Still one of the better villains I seen out of anime and manga, but hard to care for given the issues she gave to the other cursed Sohma.
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I do understand why Akito is irredeemable in the eyes of the majority of the people who post here but I can't feel anything but pity for her. She's clearly hurting herself. Then again I'm way more forgivable than most people.
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I haven't watched the 2019 version of Fruits Basket but I've read all of the manga, so here are my thoughts. I don't know how much the first two episodes of the third season have covered, but I'm afraid I can't state my opinion in full without going into spoiler territory. So I suggest my opinion is read by fans who have finished the manga, too.



I think I can understand her better now with this. In the end, I believe it will all come down to how they will handle her redemption. Even with all the explanation of why she is how she is - that, I emphasize, makes a lot of sense based on your analysis -, the important thing is if she will acknowledge her mistakes and try to make up for them. I don't want to see her be forgiven, by the Sohmas and us, the audience, just because of all those circumstances that you narrated. I want her to understand that she treated all of them badly, to apologize, and to try to fix, at least a little, the errors that she made.
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I'm not up-to-date on this new anime and it's been a while since I last time reread the manga. But I remember last time I read it I really liked Akito, she was my favourite.
Apr 18, 2021 5:26 PM
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Would you forgive and sympathize with a serial killer, rapist, terrorist or whoever who had destroyed many people's lives if you'd found out they have a sad traumatic background/past? That they were bullied in their childhood, abused by their parents or tortured by everybody?

If somebody like that killed or raped your friend/parent/child would that knowledge make you go: "Oh, you had it rough too, so I forgive you" and make you forget what they did?

No. Akito deserves to be punished and suffer at least the same amount as all the people that were hurt because of her. Preferably much more. Nothing would make me forgive her.
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Apr 19, 2021 5:20 AM
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I read the manga so I can't comment on Akito just considering the anime. I personally hate her for many reasons, but at the same time she gives me enormous sadness. Even some of the moments that made me cry the most were his. I think Fruits Basket is not trying to give you a message of "Forgive everyone" so it's okay if you hate her, but it's no reason to ignore her background. My English is bad, sorry.
Apr 19, 2021 6:14 AM
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It's completely fine if you don't want to forgive Akito, I have read the manga but I can never forgive Akito, her backstory is there to make us understand why she turned out this way but it doesn't justify any of her actions.
Apr 19, 2021 6:23 AM
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JizzyHitler said:
I am very worried i may end up docking points for the series if they try to redeem her, its one thing to be unstable but she basically did attempted murder. It would be absurdly childish of this series to try and play it off like shes misunderstood cause of her past.

If they are going to try and redeem her, they need to portray her as legitimately losing everything first, if its just a slap on the wrist thats a huge problem
The show isn't trying to justify her actions, it's trying to make you understand why she became like this, she isn't evil just for the sake of being evil
Apr 19, 2021 8:22 AM
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erm.. i don't hate akito since i recall her character arc to be sad but i don't exactly like her. she redeems herself pretty well in the end but her past actions are indeed unforgettable/unforgivable.
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I used really dislike her, until I read the manga,
But now I can sympathize with her
Also im not trying excuse her past actions at all,
What she did was horrible,
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What Akito has done is awful and all. Unforgivable surely. But the ones who decide to forgive her or not are the people she hurt.

She did those terrible things because of trauma. Again, this is not an excuse to be an *** but it is important to have context.

To me, there are more despicable characters in anime. Recently, I never hated a fictionnal character that much in the manga/anime Jujutsu Kaisen. The dude just enjoys to torture people for his sole pleasure.

If Akito hurt people, it's in fact to feel superior, because her surroundings kept saying that she is special and on the other hand, her mother says the total opposite. Akito's fear of being abandonned, her lack of emotional controls and her childish cruelty remind me of a borderline disorder.
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The show isn't trying to justify her actions, it's trying to make you understand why she became like this, she isn't evil just for the sake of being evil


Exactly.

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I've been a Fruits Basket fan for nearly 10 years and lemme tell youuuuuuu, I always HATED Akito. I never felt like the manga wanted to redeem her but more so for us to understand her a bit better. She's an extremely well written antagonist and those scenes with Torhu in the summer house arc were PHENOMONAL. This season amps it up even further ahhh.
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Sucks that Akito's mother was a jerk but that doesn't excuse Akito's actions herself and there is nothing that can be done to redeem the character for me.

No, you can't save spiteful bitches and you shouldn't feel sorry for them. I know it because it happened in my family. Don't waste decades of your life hoping they'll change because it won't happen. Cut the cancer out of your life and move on. They reap what they sow. Good on Hattori and Ayame for cutting Akito leaving and moving on with their lives. Kureno and Shigure have only themselves to blame for continuing to hang around Akito and suffering, and Akito has only herself to blame for everyone else leaving her.

Ofcourse, the show is probably going to have a redemption arc where Akito magically becomes a nicer person and everyone hugs her and pats her on the head, but... bleh. How fanciful.
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erm.. i don't hate akito since i recall her character arc to be sad but i don't exactly like her. she redeems herself pretty well in the end but her past actions are indeed unforgettable/unforgivable.


How can someone redeem themselves if they're unforgivable?

I decided at the end of the latest episode that I've had enough. She's gone from "what's her deal?" to "oh man, I can't wait until Kyo or Yuki punch (him) through a wall!" to "I don't even want to stick around to see her get her commeuppance; I just want her to slip in the shower or something and be written out of the show" to "I don't care. They're going to do something stupid like try and give her a happy ending, and she doesn't deserve it. This anime was kind of fun, but her story has run about 16 episodes too long at this point and I'm not watching it anymore. I wonder if anyone else feels this way? Let me Google 'why does fruits basket s*ck?' and see how many hits I get."

Garbage character, and the writing is super lazy to try and justify it. I give up.

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Sucks that Akito's mother was a jerk but that doesn't excuse Akito's actions herself and there is nothing that can be done to redeem the character for me.

No, you can't save spiteful bitches and you shouldn't feel sorry for them. I know it because it happened in my family. Don't waste decades of your life hoping they'll change because it won't happen. Cut the cancer out of your life and move on. They reap what they sow. Good on Hattori and Ayame for cutting Akito leaving and moving on with their lives. Kureno and Shigure have only themselves to blame for continuing to hang around Akito and suffering, and Akito has only herself to blame for everyone else leaving her.

Ofcourse, the show is probably going to have a redemption arc where Akito magically becomes a nicer person and everyone hugs her and pats her on the head, but... bleh. How fanciful.


That's exactly what I'm anticipating, and I'm so not there for it. I've wasted too much time on this series, and at this point I just have to accept it's a poorly written mess. My wife was trying to justify it, but she pretty much agreed with all my criticisms and confirmed some suspicions I had and I just cant sit through anymore of this crap.
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If she regrets her actions it’s enough for me. I just want redemption. And it’s not too late for her. On the other hand, Ren or Shigure regret nothing. I find it laughable how people hate Akito and still love Shigure or even accept Ren’s disgusting behavior.
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