Are cute media fans really toxic?
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| smash isnt cute, but it sure is toxic I've heard a quote somewhere before, "k-on fan's are either the most chill people you'll ever meet or the most toxic and there's no in between" |
| Tonikaku Kawai doesn't have a toxic fan base If I could correct you then I would say that, the more popular an anime is, the more toxic its fan base is. |
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Crow_Black said: You just said the same thing, that i didl--_--l said: Tonikaku Kawai doesn't have a toxic fan base If I could correct you then I would say that, the more popular an anime is, the more toxic its fan base is. Lesser known media fandoms in my expierince tend to be pretty chill for me. |
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Crow_Black said: l--_--l said: You just said the same thing, that i did I'm just pointing out my own expireince opposite to you. I said,"The more the popular an anime is, the more toxic its fandom is" And you said,"Lesser known media fandoms in my experience tend to be pretty chill" Aren't the two things that we said the same? |
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| I've met some toxic fans of more mainstream moe like K-On!, but dedicated CGDCT/Slice of Life clubs on this site like the big dead titled one right below H&E in the rankings or Comfy Camp seem very...nothing. Like, it doesn't seem toxic or combative, but conversation and interaction seems empty and uninteresting, like there's a bunch of weird unspoken rules about being anything other than incredibly passive towards anything and everything around them. |
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| More like the bigger the media is the more toxic the fanbase is, that's just how things work. |
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Ericonator said: Exactly the media has nothing to do with it tbhMore like the bigger the media is the more toxic the fanbase is, that's just how things work. |
DaokoscakeMar 8, 2021 11:00 AM
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| Well your not really wrong to be honest |
Crow_Black said: Manaban said: I've met some toxic fans of more mainstream moe like K-On!, but dedicated CGDCT/Slice of Life clubs on this site like the big dead one right below H&E in the rankings or Comfy Camp seem very...nothing. Like, it doesn't seem toxic or combative, but conversation and interaction seems empty and uninteresting, like there's a bunch of weird unspoken rules about being anything other than incredibly passive towards anything and everything around them. So in a sense its kind of like one sided apathetic conversations am i correct? I mean, if you wanna meet who I consider the archetypal Slice of Life/CGDCT/Moe fan, then look no further, he showed up! Ericonator said: More like the bigger the media is the more toxic the fanbase is, that's just how things work. ily eric don't hate me owo But yeah like, look at this dude, I guess. We're both in a private discord server together and I make it a point to regularly post and say weird shit to him just to see his non-reaction. And I think that kind of extreme passivity seems to be the like, norm in those fandoms, from my experiences lurking in them for club politics reasons. |
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Crow_Black said: yep, especially with K-ON fans quite a few of them can be toxic.LCLicepops said: Well your not really wrong to be honest you must have seen some fans like that in your time then. |
Crow_Black said: So you can say the most messed up thing possible and they would be indifferent to it? Iunno, I think me and Eric have a special dynamic at this point to where I can share weird goat doujins with him or offer to suck his cock and he pretty much expects that and rolls with it. I doubt I could walk into a general SoL club and do that, lol. But...yeahhhhh, iunno how much that extreme combatativeness you're describing applies to Slice of Life fans/Moe fans since my experiences with them has been largely that they are very, very passive for the most part. I've seen some toxic K-On! fans, but outside of that it seems to be unbearably passive I think the type of toxicity you're describing is less about how cute the content is and more about breadth of fandom - Animal Crossing, Pokemon, et cetera - or about a show being very sociopolitical thematically, i.e. Steven Universe, both of which lead to attracting certain types of discourse that can very easily lead into toxic and hostile reactions from either side of the conversations, whereas in situations like relatively niche anime genre fandoms, that element inviting toxicity wouldn't be as present. I just think of the Moe fandom as the Ecchi fandom's mentally disabled, heavily inbred cousin. |
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Manaban said: Passiveness is the path of least annoyance which is why it's the best path. And I know that's why you do it so I'm not gonna force a reaction over something so little :<I mean, if you wanna meet who I consider the archetypal Slice of Life/CGDCT/Moe fan, then look no further, he showed up! Ericonator said: More like the bigger the media is the more toxic the fanbase is, that's just how things work. ily eric don't hate me owo But yeah like, look at this dude, I guess. We're both in a private discord server together and I make it a point to regularly post and say weird shit to him just to see his non-reaction. And I think that kind of extreme passivity seems to be the like, norm in those fandoms, from my experiences lurking in them for club politics reasons. |
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Ericonator said: Passiveness is the path of least annoyance which is why it's the best path. And I know that's why you do it so I'm not gonna force a reaction over something so little :< I mean yeah sure, but I still will suck your cock if you ever wanna put down some money for the service |
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Manaban said: Let me get some money first quickly thenEriconator said: Passiveness is the path of least annoyance which is why it's the best path. And I know that's why you do it so I'm not gonna force a reaction over something so little :< I mean, I still will suck your cock if you ever wanna put down some money for the service |
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| I think this is a confused generalization. It's not that the show is cuter so it has a more toxic fanbase, it's that it's popular so there are more people and a higher likelihood for there to be toxic fans. The larger a given population, the more types of people you will have and the more disagreements will subsequently follow.Toxicity only stems from disagreement. |
| I think that you need to focus your thread a bit more, your claims are generalised at best and vague at worst. For example: Super Smash isn't "cute". Is any franchise with a few cute characters considered "cute"? Pokemon fans are far from being an united front defending every decision of Nintendo/GameFreak, "Pokemon designs suck ever since Gen X" or "No good game after Gen X" to name a few. Even the whole #thankyougamefreak stuff wouldn't be a thing if there wasn't a huge negative reception of the S&S games. A few people already mentioned it, but with larger communities there's simply a higher probability of toxic fans, right? |
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| The most toxic fanbases tend to be very mainstream action shonen. When you compare that to the CGDCT fandoms of shows like Yuru Camp, Girls Last Tour, Girls Und Panzer etc those fanbases are incredibly tame and some of the better anime fanbases I have seen. You also bring up a lot of fandoms that have no relation to the anime fandom such as Animal Crossing, MLP and Steven's Universe. Tons of fans of these franchises don't watch or engage in anime/manga so I don't see how that is relevant? The Pokemon stuff has more to do with game mechanics not anything to do with necessarily the story or designs or the anime. Any game fandom with an unhappy fanbase is going to be toxic. When you consider the anime fanbase a lot of shows that sell on "cuteness" I rarely see toxicity. I guess sure some fujos are into battle shonen because of cute guys but on the flip side they are still usually a small part of the fandom and most of toxicity in the battle shonen fandom isn't caused directly by their interests these days. Regardless in large you will find "toxicity" anywhere on the internet but trying to imply there is some link between "cute" media I really don't see it. It's just more evidence for popular fandoms always end up in drama if anything. |
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| Since when toxic fandom started being identified by genre or tags associated with media? toxic are toxic irrespective of the content of the media. |
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| i remember from a while back on 4chan you could not chat any shit about nichijou or you would face certain death. (i liked the show myself but christ some people went to extremes). |
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| It think it is mainly because there is more clout in shitting on the toxic shounen fandoms rather than the ones for more cute shows and games. For example if I were to make a thread about the toxicity of the AOT fandom than it would get hundreds of replys. However if I did one for the toxicity in the Sailor Moon fandom literally no one would care because there toxicity isn't out in the open and Sailor Moon isn't as popular as AOT. This is just my take on this subject though. |
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| first time I hear that sailor moon fans are toxic, I am sorry for your experience, you must have angered some crazy fans or you insulted them first in order to act like that. |
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