Do people actually enjoy ero guro???

Nemo_Niemand said:
Yes. Not my favorite but I don't mind it. It may be kinda nice, in both erotic and aesthetic aspects.
I actually enjoyed Mai-chan no Nichijou.
I usually don't search for this genre, but when it accidentally finds me I accept it.

Sick fuck, you say?

Titan420 said:


Enjoyed Mai Chan? Didnt think that was physically possible.

LordOfPigs said:
Its really not that deep. Its just edgy, so people think its cool. When I'm in that edgy mood it can be interesting. I just think of it as something that's there, and when I see it I'm just like "that's metal as fuck", and move on. I don't mind it existing.

Leoradiuju2004 said:
nah i dont think i dont think anybody uses that as material for fap they only see it because they are curious i do (search 228922 doujin) its disgusting and disgusting shit but we just want to see how awful and over the top it is.













https://myanimelist.net/anime/2981/Chika_Gentou_Gekiga__Shoujo_Tsubaki

ohohohohohoho said:
Of course. Seeking pleasure and avoiding pain and terror are the most basic drives guiding the actions of human beings in one form or another. Eroguro is about engaging with these drives and exploring the territory of what is actually taboo, the things we actually fear and desire that we cannot accept.

Redo of Healer is a show that is ranted about frequently here these days, and I feel like the detractors and defenders don't understand each other whatsoever. The problem with a show like this is that it's not actually doing something taboo. What's "offensive" about the show if you want to use that word is that its depiction of rape is not shocking. Eroticizing rape, exploiting rape for sensational storytelling, exploiting or blaming rape survivors, it's all a refusal to confront the true horror of rape. This willful ignorance and eroticization of rape is precisely what permits it to continue to be prevalent, for rapists to continue to get off the hook, for survivors to continue to blame themselves and hide rather than persecute their assailants. It's not being criticized from the puritanical standpoint that is often suggested, because no one actually thinks of sexual content the way the puritans did anymore.

Culturally, we do not act toward rape the way we say we think about it. We say it's heinous, but we do not treat it that way in practice (evinced by the aforementioned problems surrounding our treatment of rape survivors and assailants). Most people who are bothered by Redo of Healer aren't bothered because they can't handle seeing rape, they're bothered because rape is depicted as something trivial. You might say "well, it's fiction, so it's ok," but again, rape is trivialized in reality as well. This is our cultural attitude toward rape, borne out in a fictional setting. Our culture is produced and reproduced in large part by the images fed to us by popular entertainment, advertisements, and so on. It doesn't arise out of thin air. Anime is more commodity than art; it's never a single person's genuine expression or vision and it's never made without profit in mind. Popular entertainment reveals what we think is normal and acceptable, because it wants to appeal to people and make money. It's not going to try to alienate viewers the way art is free to.

Eroguro is about attempting to look at the human subconscious as it really is, interrogating the boundary of what we ACTUALLY believe is acceptable, to show the things we desire that we cannot allow ourselves to seek after; to show what we fear that we don't want to acknowledge. In other words, we are not ACTUALLY shocked by rape, because we have created a fantasy version of it that isn't unbearable to look at for popular consumption; but we are ACTUALLY shocked by the idea of someone lustfully shoving their tongue in a vacant eye socket, or (as from the Story of the Eye) a girl biting into a raw bull testicle and then shoving it up her vagina. At least, that's what Eroguro supposed to do. It's supposed to be interrogative and transgressive, but it can and is still coopted by popular entertainment. That is only natural since its been a century since it first appeared and its popular viability has been proven.

Yumerei said:
When you wanted to have a good time but ended up with a headache and so turned off that you didn't want to do anything sexual for the entire day... yeah, that's how I learned the existence of ero guro

Maybe it's just my bad luck but the ones I found tagged with "guro" are always people having their limbs chopped off and intestines pulled out.. ugh

Titan420 said:


Ya well said. That shit has never turned me on and never will.

ohohohohohoho said:
Of course. Seeking pleasure and avoiding pain and terror are the most basic drives guiding the actions of human beings in one form or another. Eroguro is about engaging with these drives and exploring the territory of what is actually taboo, the things we actually fear and desire that we cannot accept.

Redo of Healer is a show that is ranted about frequently here these days, and I feel like the detractors and defenders don't understand each other whatsoever. The problem with a show like this is that it's not actually doing something taboo. What's "offensive" about the show if you want to use that word is that its depiction of rape is not shocking. Eroticizing rape, exploiting rape for sensational storytelling, exploiting or blaming rape survivors, it's all a refusal to confront the true horror of rape. This willful ignorance and eroticization of rape is precisely what permits it to continue to be prevalent, for rapists to continue to get off the hook, for survivors to continue to blame themselves and hide rather than persecute their assailants. It's not being criticized from the puritanical standpoint that is often suggested, because no one actually thinks of sexual content the way the puritans did anymore.

Culturally, we do not act toward rape the way we say we think about it. We say it's heinous, but we do not treat it that way in practice (evinced by the aforementioned problems surrounding our treatment of rape survivors and assailants). Most people who are bothered by Redo of Healer aren't bothered because they can't handle seeing rape, they're bothered because rape is depicted as something trivial. You might say "well, it's fiction, so it's ok," but again, rape is trivialized in reality as well. This is our cultural attitude toward rape, borne out in a fictional setting. Our culture is produced and reproduced in large part by the images fed to us by popular entertainment, advertisements, and so on. It doesn't arise out of thin air. Anime is more commodity than art; it's never a single person's genuine expression or vision and it's never made without profit in mind. Popular entertainment reveals what we think is normal and acceptable, because it wants to appeal to people and make money. It's not going to try to alienate viewers the way art is free to.

Eroguro is about attempting to look at the human subconscious as it really is, interrogating the boundary of what we ACTUALLY believe is acceptable, to show the things we desire that we cannot allow ourselves to seek after; to show what we fear that we don't want to acknowledge. In other words, we are not ACTUALLY shocked by rape, because we have created a fantasy version of it that isn't unbearable to look at for popular consumption; but we are ACTUALLY shocked by the idea of someone lustfully shoving their tongue in a vacant eye socket, or (as from the Story of the Eye) a girl biting into a raw bull testicle and then shoving it up her vagina. At least, that's what Eroguro supposed to do. It's supposed to be interrogative and transgressive, but it can and is still coopted by popular entertainment. That is only natural since its been a century since it first appeared and its popular viability has been proven.

Of course. Seeking pleasure and avoiding pain and terror are the most basic drives guiding the actions of human beings in one form or another. Eroguro is about engaging with these drives and exploring the territory of what is actually taboo, the things we actually fear and desire that we cannot accept.

Redo of Healer is a show that is ranted about frequently here these days, and I feel like the detractors and defenders don't understand each other whatsoever. The problem with a show like this is that it's not actually doing something taboo. What's "offensive" about the show if you want to use that word is that its depiction of rape is not shocking. Eroticizing rape, exploiting rape for sensational storytelling, exploiting or blaming rape survivors, it's all a refusal to confront the true horror of rape. This willful ignorance and eroticization of rape is precisely what permits it to continue to be prevalent, for rapists to continue to get off the hook, for survivors to continue to blame themselves and hide rather than persecute their assailants. It's not being criticized from the puritanical standpoint that is often suggested, because no one actually thinks of sexual content the way the puritans did anymore.

Culturally, we do not act toward rape the way we say we think about it. We say it's heinous, but we do not treat it that way in practice (evinced by the aforementioned problems surrounding our treatment of rape survivors and assailants). Most people who are bothered by Redo of Healer aren't bothered because they can't handle seeing rape, they're bothered because rape is depicted as something trivial. You might say "well, it's fiction, so it's ok," but again, rape is trivialized in reality as well. This is our cultural attitude toward rape, borne out in a fictional setting. Our culture is produced and reproduced in large part by the images fed to us by popular entertainment, advertisements, and so on. It doesn't arise out of thin air. Anime is more commodity than art; it's never a single person's genuine expression or vision and it's never made without profit in mind. Popular entertainment reveals what we think is normal and acceptable, because it wants to appeal to people and make money. It's not going to try to alienate viewers the way art is free to.

Eroguro is about attempting to look at the human subconscious as it really is, interrogating the boundary of what we ACTUALLY believe is acceptable, to show the things we desire that we cannot allow ourselves to seek after; to show what we fear that we don't want to acknowledge. In other words, we are not ACTUALLY shocked by rape, because we have created a fantasy version of it that isn't unbearable to look at for popular consumption; but we are ACTUALLY shocked by the idea of someone lustfully shoving their tongue in a vacant eye socket, or (as from the Story of the Eye) a girl biting into a raw bull testicle and then shoving it up her vagina. At least, that's what Eroguro supposed to do. It's supposed to be interrogative and transgressive, but it can and is still coopted by popular entertainment. That is only natural since its been a century since it first appeared and its popular viability has been proven.

Yeah, why not?
I still hope to find a really sick thing which will make me feel the real disgust. Sadly, I'm okay with literally anything lol.

MAYOIII said:
a lot

my favorite is shoujo tsubaki i bet some of the ppl here like it too

Femuwu said:
I think it's always been pretty interesting to see that sort of stuff- it's definitely a change of pace and well as I said, interesting. It's also a pretty fun way to get reactions out of my friends when I show them it.

Actually just finished reading one! (this) due to someone saying that I'd enjoy the authors work ^^;

Johan said:


Thoughts- ? Would you recommend it?

Titan420 said:
Are there actually sick fucks out there who enjoy ero guro.

Titan420 said:
Are there actually sick fucks out there who enjoy ero guro. I can handle disturbing shit. But still ero guro is the only thing that fucks with my head weeks after reading or watching one.

Ero guro or just guro, from the English "ero(ticism)" and "gro(tesque)", is a literary and artistic movement with a focus on eroticism, sexual corruption, and decadence that originated circa 1930 in Japan. While the name speaks of erotic and grotesque, that comes through the display of the malformed, the unnatural, and the horrific, and not necessarily through the pornographic, the bloody, or the gratuitous violence. While Western audiences often incorrectly use the term guro to mean gore, the two concepts are unrelated and should not be confused.

Ero guro (エログロ) is an artistic genre that puts its focus on eroticism, sexual corruption, and decadence. As a term, it is used to denote something that is both erotic and grotesque.

inim said:
I'm pretty confused about your usage of the term "ero guro", as it doesn't match the common definition. Ero Guro is an art movement as old as the 1920s. The word derives from "ero(ticism)" and "gro(tesque)" and not from "gore". It pretty much means that the content is some form of kinky, grotesque and sexualized. A well known example of ero guro is tentacle rape, found in countless anime if only as parody often. Ero Guro doesn't mean that mutilation, gore or snuff have to be story elements. Which seem to be the sole elements discussed in this thread.

tl;dr Most Japanese snuff is also Ero Guro, but by far not all Ero Guro is snuff. It's a more general term.

The second point is that while this is a thread in "Anime Discussion", people mainly cite manga as examples. The only anime cited is Shoujo Tsubaki, which is a single person's passion project and can hardly be generalized.

Here are the defintions from anidb and Wikipedia, respectively.There are a several ero guro anime shows and movies I actually did enjoy. Many of them are trash connoisseur material, but e.g. Requiem from Darkness, Midori, and Wicked City are genuinely good stories. Here are a few non-hentai recommendations of actual Ero Guro anime, in order of my enjoyment. None of them is of the snuff and mutilation type you incorrectly equate with ero guro.

• Kyougoku Natsuhiko: Kousetsu Hyaku Monogatari (7/10) - episodic horror stories with expressionist art style.
  
• Chika Gentou Gekiga: Shoujo Tsubaki (6/10) - The infamous work of passion of one man. This one actually has mutilation in it.
  
• Youjuu Toshi (5.5/10) - Classic movie about a human/demon romance. Also features very bizarre character designs for the villains.
  
• Malice@Doll (5/10) - 3dcg with a story similar to Serial Experiments Lain in reverse.
  
• Kakugo no Susume (4.5/10) - Post-apocalyptic action adventure with some seriously grotesque character designs of the villains. S-tier trash.