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Feb 13, 2021 2:06 AM

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The last ending scene with Roswaal Finding otto to be a unpredicted Factor was the most solid and clear scene in the entire 6 eps , it was great , the trial was decent too ig. The fact that Pandora can use her reality alteration powers to any extent is just too unsettling. Decent-good ep.
Feb 13, 2021 3:11 AM

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little Emilia went through so many terrible things in the past.
She unleashed so much ice magic and Pandora could not open the gate anymore.

That wasn't really Pandora's fault that everyone else was violent towards her, when all she did was talking with a sweet voice. Betelgeuse was an idiot for rushing in like that, first he should have known that Pandora doesn't die from anything he can do and second he should know about Pandora's ability reality alteration. It wasn't a fair move of her, but the others are to blame for storming in like this.
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Feb 13, 2021 9:04 AM

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vipergod said:
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Actually the author of re:zero stated that Emilia is half-elf and that she is in fact 50% human also when Pandora says that she is a witches daughter it could mean the other 7 witches that we know and another thing is in my opinion if she was Satellas daughter I get the impression Pandora would have said Satella instead of the witch but that's just my opinion.
they were trying to break satellas seal right? When pandora said "yeah u must be the key after all u are the witches daughter! " It kina implying that she is related to satella? My other theory is she is satella or to be exact split personality/sperated part of satella . Add this to ppl like geus from witch cult worshiping emilia.
vipergod said:
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Actually the author of re:zero stated that Emilia is half-elf and that she is in fact 50% human also when Pandora says that she is a witches daughter it could mean the other 7 witches that we know and another thing is in my opinion if she was Satellas daughter I get the impression Pandora would have said Satella instead of the witch but that's just my opinion.
they were trying to break satellas seal right? When pandora said "yeah u must be the key after all u are the witches daughter! " It kina implying that she is related to satella? My other theory is she is satella or to be exact split personality/sperated part of satella . Add this to ppl like geus from witch cult worshiping emilia.

When pandora said "yeah u must be the key after all u are the witches daughter! " That could also mean another witch sealed part of the witch of envy and died in the process mainly because I feel the seal must be at least related to the witch of envy since Fortuna said "the world will be destroyed this time" but that's just my theory.
Feb 13, 2021 9:26 AM

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Jo_Ghost said:
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Opening sucked and more of this fuckin flashback shit. This is getting boring really fast. Like no progression. All we've gotten were fuckin backstories and flashbacks.



I recommend you watch Dragon ball. You will not suffer watching character development.


Its Re Char development over n over n over again. Material that should not be animated or at least make it a movie. *Mugen Train style"
Feb 13, 2021 11:08 AM

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The whole flashback sequence is all done now but.....

Is it just me or does anyone else feel lost again with that whole bit at the end with Subaru going back to Mathers and telling him to give up? I get that he had a hand in the impending attack on his mansion in some twisted desire to throw Subaru in despair but I see no point in Subaru confronting Mathers again....My impression was that Mathers had no control over everything after he set things in motion.

Or was that like a dumb attempt at filling the last 5 minutes with a suspenseful cliffhanger which -in my opinion- instead gave me a "gawd is Subaru showing his cockiness again?" feeling
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Feb 13, 2021 11:23 AM

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Rip mother Fortuna. I feel sorry for bishop. ;(

Also, the trio is lit.
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Feb 13, 2021 12:10 PM
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The whole flashback sequence is all done now but.....

Is it just me or does anyone else feel lost again with that whole bit at the end with Subaru going back to Mathers and telling him to give up? I get that he had a hand in the impending attack on his mansion in some twisted desire to throw Subaru in despair but I see no point in Subaru confronting Mathers again....My impression was that Mathers had no control over everything after he set things in motion.

Or was that like a dumb attempt at filling the last 5 minutes with a suspenseful cliffhanger which -in my opinion- instead gave me a "gawd is Subaru showing his cockiness again?" feeling


He is trying to stop Roswall from acting with the information Shima told him ( which it has not been shown ), Roswall is the one that makes the snow which attracts the bunnies and there is 1 day left before Roswall starts doing it.
Feb 13, 2021 2:16 PM

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Wait? Was that a new OP? After 6 episodes? Nice.

Also poor Gause... damnit. Can't believe I am sorry for him, but he was good guy twisted by fate? I guess. Nevermind, I love parallel of how Subaru was close to become arch-bishop of Pride himself. And still can. Will never happen but If stories told me it's possible to push him that far.
Feb 13, 2021 3:19 PM
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Vooo said:
Jo_Ghost said:



I recommend you watch Dragon ball. You will not suffer watching character development.


Its Re Char development over n over n over again. Material that should not be animated or at least make it a movie. *Mugen Train style"


Have you read the novels enough to say that they didn't need to be animated?
Because the flashbacks in the novels were some of the best in this arc.
WF, not doing bad, but this arc had much, much more potential.
Feb 13, 2021 3:19 PM

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Just stopping by because I've seen several reviews and takes complaining about the dialogue. It was surprising to me, as watching the last episode, I was under the impression it was one of the best in the whole series.

Honestly keep forgetting how good the storytelling in Re:Zero is, and happily, it keeps reminding me. The current season of Titans is so far missing the depth of the last one, so I'm glad I can at least get my fix of that somewhere else.
Feb 13, 2021 3:44 PM

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Just stopping by because I've seen several reviews and takes complaining about the dialogue. It was surprising to me, as watching the last episode, I was under the impression it was one of the best in the whole series.

Honestly keep forgetting how good the storytelling in Re:Zero is, and happily, it keeps reminding me. The current season of Titans is so far missing the depth of the last one, so I'm glad I can at least get my fix of that somewhere else.

Don't take others opinion seriously anyway. They can't understand the depth in Re:Zero.

Most of them either didn't understand re:zero or shitting on it because it is popular.
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Feb 13, 2021 4:40 PM

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Truly savage of Pandora to set up Betelgeuse to kill Fortuna with his own "hands", and with this he dived into pure Insanity. The full Results of the Grave Change Betelgeuse made with this event could be seen in Season 1...
Wonder what Pandora said to Betelgeuse before leaving, also Speaking of Season 1, Betelgeuse with that Insane Laughter again, when he walked away with Pandora
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Feb 14, 2021 7:57 PM
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This episode was too white for me, all i saw was few lines on a white paper. Lol.
(I am not racist, i am just saying that everything surrounding the kid emelia was too white, even with 0 brightness it hurt my eyes)
Feb 15, 2021 7:16 PM
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wait I don't get the big deal of this episode. Fortuna and Geuse fought Pandora long enough to realize she can do some crazy things right? So why are they still attacking her like NPCs lol.

Also if Pandora can illusion Geuse and disguise herself as Fortuna to to get him to kill her, then why couldn't she disguise herself as Emillia's mother or something lol. I mean she can go as far as erasing her memory so idk why she can't manipulate a little kid.

One last thing is Geuse's descent was pretty lame, there wasn't any big torture or grandoise way of turning him insane, it seemed like a really stupid way the character acted and got her killed. Sure that's horrible but then I guess you give up and become the bad guy right.

idk lol I loved the other seasons but this one? So dragged out and pretty lame
Feb 15, 2021 7:50 PM

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wait I don't get the big deal of this episode. Fortuna and Geuse fought Pandora long enough to realize she can do some crazy things right? So why are they still attacking her like NPCs lol.

Also if Pandora can illusion Geuse and disguise herself as Fortuna to to get him to kill her, then why couldn't she disguise herself as Emillia's mother or something lol. I mean she can go as far as erasing her memory so idk why she can't manipulate a little kid.

One last thing is Geuse's descent was pretty lame, there wasn't any big torture or grandoise way of turning him insane, it seemed like a really stupid way the character acted and got her killed. Sure that's horrible but then I guess you give up and become the bad guy right.

idk lol I loved the other seasons but this one? So dragged out and pretty lame


1. They were desperately trying to keep Pandora away from the Seal and Emilia, it was like a last resort, there was nothing they could do, they knew that but they couldn't just simply give up and have Pandora open the seal that can potentially destroy the world.(It was mentioned last episode that when the seal is opened the world will end, it's a vague statement so we don't exactly how the world would end.)

2. I don't get this complaint? Why would she need to disguise as Emilia's mother? I don't get the point of that? Also her powers obviously have limitations we just don't know what they are, if her power really is that strong then she could've opened to seal long ago but the fact that she hasn't means it has restrictions.

3. That sounds pretty sadistic... you don't need to have those edgy stuff to make him insane, that would've exaggerated it too much, the Witch Factor was already taking a toll in his body and mind and him killing the person he loved was just too much for him, obviously there is still much we don't know about Geuse, we don't know his exact relationship with the Elves. If you payed attention, you would notice that when Emilia was freezing the forest Geuse was just kneeling on the ground motionless, seemingly losing all hope and just giving up but Pandora walked up to him and whispered something to his ear then he stood up and went with her while laughing, so how he became evil is probably connected to what she said to him?

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Hundred_Shells said:
wait I don't get the big deal of this episode. Fortuna and Geuse fought Pandora long enough to realize she can do some crazy things right? So why are they still attacking her like NPCs lol.

Also if Pandora can illusion Geuse and disguise herself as Fortuna to to get him to kill her, then why couldn't she disguise herself as Emillia's mother or something lol. I mean she can go as far as erasing her memory so idk why she can't manipulate a little kid.

One last thing is Geuse's descent was pretty lame, there wasn't any big torture or grandoise way of turning him insane, it seemed like a really stupid way the character acted and got her killed. Sure that's horrible but then I guess you give up and become the bad guy right.

idk lol I loved the other seasons but this one? So dragged out and pretty lame


1. They were desperately trying to keep Pandora away from the Seal and Emilia, it was like a last resort, there was nothing they could do, they knew that but they couldn't just simply give up and have Pandora open the seal that can potentially destroy the world.(It was mentioned last episode that when the seal is opened the world will end, it's a vague statement so we don't exactly how the world would end.)

2. I don't get this complaint? Why would she need to disguise as Emilia's mother? I don't get the point of that? Also her powers obviously have limitations we just don't know what they are, if her power really is that strong then she could've opened to seal long ago but the fact that she hasn't means it has restrictions.

3. That sounds pretty sadistic... you don't need to have those edgy stuff to make him insane, that would've exaggerated it too much, the Witch Factor was already taking a toll in his body and mind and him killing the person he loved was just too much for him, obviously there is still much we don't know about Geuse, we don't know his exact relationship with the Elves. If you payed attention, you would notice that when Emilia was freezing the forest Geuse was just kneeling on the ground motionless, seemingly losing all hope and just giving up but Pandora walked up to him and whispered something to his ear then he stood up and went with her while laughing, so how he became evil is probably connected to what she said to him?



1. Yeah I know that there isn't much else they could do but I mean they saw her powers last episode right? Literally making regulus disappear. I mean I just wanted them to react less brainlessly, like try to analyze her powers or idk just any other approach than just yelling "Ill kill you" and attacking. Maybe I missed it but they barely reacted to her abnormal powers, and this episode it felt like they were fighting her for the first time again.

2. I'm talking about manipulating Emilia by disguising herself as her mother and asking for the key, since that would maybe potentially get her to concede it. Like I'm just saying that she clearly has the capabilities of showing illusions to others and erasing memories, so I know she has limitations but it seems like showing illusions to Emilia seems like a plausible thing she can do, no?

3. This it might just be a lack of clarity with the witch factor, I was paying attention lol no need to talk like that. But one whisper at the end just making him go to the other side felt dumb to me, I guess they might reveal later what was said and changed him, but it seems unlikely since the geuse chapter is done and batelgeuse is already dead. But if they explain it reasonably I will have no qualms.

Anyways, thanks for replying
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Oh my kokoro, my poor kokoro could not take this episode. This was an amazing episode, great wrap up to the complete backstory of Emilia which hands down, was so much better then i thought. Really well done story, a lot of question about Emilia i had from season 1 are pretty much answered, along with her past being full of twists and heart-breaking events.

Fuck bro, Geus's past is one i'll always remember. Poor guy, i want to say it was Pandora that caused Geus to see Fortuna as Pandora (however it did look like something was up with his vision before hand, so idk) either way, it was heart-breaking to see what happened, and him snapping after what he did, pretty much leading him into the thing he was in season 1, hurts even more ;-; p.s.Matsuoka Yoshitsugu hands down does an amazing fucking job at post snap Geus, i could imagin doing a role as someone as extreme as Petelgeuse is super straining for the voice, so i have a lot of respect to him for being able to pull it off

OP fucking SLAPS. I don't know how or why, but this new OP is fucking amazing, the animation is pretty on point along with the tune, and overall had me loving it. Looking at the animation in the OP, looks like Beatrice will get a major role as well as a massive advance in the arc. Lmao, feels like the first OP, that was already a fire one, took a week or so break to become an even better fucking one.

That last half was fucking brilliant ngl, not only did Subaru show to Roswaal that we were no longer following his fortune telling book, but actually took advantage of Roswaal while he was cornered. Subaru bringing Otto as an anomaly of sorts to show Roswaal, was really intriguing, as it literally did show that things were no longer following the words of the book, therefore Roswaal was pretty much in the blind, and what better way for Subaru to capitalise of this, with an advisement of surrender to Roswaal himself. God damn was that a nice scene.
But ngl, in Otto's shoes, i would of been confused af to what Roswaal and Subaru's talk of games and fortune books was all about.
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is it the best OP in 2021 ???
Feb 16, 2021 4:52 PM

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So that's the origin story of Betelgeuse.
Feb 16, 2021 5:48 PM

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guizo- said:
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I wonder why Pandora, being a Witch, wasn't at the tea party with Echidna and the others last season (s2 part 1).


I'm just speculating here but, I think that's because she isn't dead or sealed like the others.


Excuse me for jumping on this topic but I'm so confused: weren't there only 7 witches? Isn't Pandora the 8th one now? Am I just imagining that there were 7 withces in the re:zero world?
If anyone can clear my head without spoiling the LN I'd be deeply grateful
Feb 16, 2021 5:54 PM

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cecito said:
guizo- said:


I'm just speculating here but, I think that's because she isn't dead or sealed like the others.


Excuse me for jumping on this topic but I'm so confused: weren't there only 7 witches? Isn't Pandora the 8th one now? Am I just imagining that there were 7 withces in the re:zero world?
If anyone can clear my head without spoiling the LN I'd be deeply grateful


There are 7 Main witches, Pandora is like an hidden extra one, she is the Witch of Vanity(or Vainglory).
Fun Fact: Vanity is part of the old 9 Sins before the church removed 2 those are Vanity/Vainglory and Acedia/Melancholy.
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cecito said:


Excuse me for jumping on this topic but I'm so confused: weren't there only 7 witches? Isn't Pandora the 8th one now? Am I just imagining that there were 7 withces in the re:zero world?
If anyone can clear my head without spoiling the LN I'd be deeply grateful


There are 7 Main witches, Pandora is like an hidden extra one, she is the Witch of Vanity(or Vainglory).
Fun Fact: Vanity is part of the old 9 Sins before the church removed 2 those are Vanity/Vainglory and Acedia/Melancholy.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!!
I was somehow convinced (by no actual reason) that the 7 witches refferenced the 7 deadly sins from christianity so I never thought about the possibility of there being any other sins. Tysm.
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!!
I was somehow convinced (by no actual reason) that the 7 witches refferenced the 7 deadly sins from christianity so I never thought about the possibility of there being any other sins. Tysm.

But they are the 7 deadly sins of christianity, except there were 9 of them before Vanity and Melancholy were removed and merged to other sins.
Feb 18, 2021 8:28 AM

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Emilia-tan I've come to Bargain
Feb 18, 2021 6:48 PM

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cecito said:

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!!
I was somehow convinced (by no actual reason) that the 7 witches refferenced the 7 deadly sins from christianity so I never thought about the possibility of there being any other sins. Tysm.

But they are the 7 deadly sins of christianity, except there were 9 of them before Vanity and Melancholy were removed and merged to other sins.

really???? i literally went to a catholic school ruled by NUNS and i found out about this ON MY ANIME LIST? insane

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This seasons picking up steam now boys. Child Emilia is adorable abd was really cool to see Beatleguese origin, he's one of my favorite characters. I honestly didnt care for the first 3 episodes so I was worried but now I'm really enjoying it again. I just hope their is at least one episode where nobody cries, it takes the feels out of the moment when you try ti have an emotional scene every episode. I'm sure the voice actors would appreciate it also.
Feb 20, 2021 10:10 AM
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Damn, guese laugh is the best thing i fucking love in this episode
Feb 21, 2021 3:21 AM

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Rip Mother Fortuna, being killed by someone you love... F

Emilia's determination is commendable.




Feb 21, 2021 11:51 AM

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Another great episode. Emilia continued facing her past, including seeing the most painful moments. She succeeded in accepting what happened back then.

Fortuna died, killed by Geuse who was being manipulated by Pandora's illusions. We learned that Geuse from Season 1 wasn't acting like a madman, but he actually became one after killing his beloved Fortuna.

Emilia's powers were impressing. I would love to see a duel between her and Pandora, hehe.

I wonder what would have happened if Emilia decided to open that door? Perhaps we will learn it later.

Opening has finally appeared. I liked it, and the song was cool as well.

Oh, and one more thing that has happened in this episode: Otto's importance has been officially recognized by Roswaal himself. :D
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Cool OP starts like Renegade from Gangsta. Vanity's somehow immortal or rewrites events. Some unnerving sound design served a great atmosphere.
Yay for Otto.
Feb 27, 2021 4:55 AM

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Fortuna isn't very fortunate he he
Feb 27, 2021 9:37 PM

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I realize that i start to get speechless after watching a few ReZero episodes straight, this past episode has been insane.

I feel so bad about what happened to Fortuna and Guese, what a sad ending to their story, and i guess the day that the Guese they knew, died. ReZero is giving me flashbacks of characters like SnK, i gotta rewatch this after it ends!

So it was Emilia who froze everything, but that was for sure a tough situation, now i wonder what's next but judging from the OP (yes, it finally happened) we can see the bunnies so i guess even worse stuff is coming.

Lmao Emilia totally forgot that there are 3 trials, this season will definitely destroy me. But i am so glad that this is getting such a great adaptation, White Fox is doing such a great job.
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Alright, so about halfway into the season, the actual OP finally reveals itself in all its glory, and ofc, it doesn't disappoint. I really liked this more 'electronic' music, reminds me of Gangsta's OP. Now, just let us see it for the remaining eps and we'd be happy. As for the ED... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Pandora's power is already overwhelmingly troublesome as we know it, but her attitude and her capability to sway and manipulate others share the same terrifying threat. She's almost convinced Emilia to open the seal and even successfully justified Petelgeuse's action after she 'accidentally' killed Fortuna. A fearsome opponent indeed... And Emilia might just see her yet again as she promised she would.

On a more satisfying yet 'chilling' note; Emila going berserk and blanketing the entire forest with eternal permafrost along with 'killing' Pandora a bunch of time are all quite amusing to see. Ofc it's all the more satisfying after seeing Fortuna dies by Emila's hand with Pandora being the root of what caused it.

Welp, anyways, Emilia finished her first trial (finally) and ontop of that, Mathers is being pushed into a corner.
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Otto maintaining his status as the true Re:Zero protagonist/best girl.
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OP and ED Visual looking banging

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omg this episode made me cry sm T-T i didn't know how depressing emilia's background was... lowkey was kinda annoyed at baby emilia for being a dumbass but i get it, also can't stay mad at bae forever <3 and damm my boy petelgeuse deserved better!!!!!!! omg i deadass was balling out crying when he killed fortuna :-: they both deserved better!!! we need a spin off where they end up together happily... i don't think i'll ever be over this like wth esp that little white hair girl with the blue ribbon is f'd up. and I'm glad my girl emilia is out here doing better and finally passing the first trial its been like up to 12+ episodes, about time yk. also luvvvv garfiel, otto and ram for just being the best people ever and cracking me up!!!!! + i'm manifesting no more bullshit after this episode!!!!
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This one hit the feels deeply. Emilia is winning me over. The way she counters Echidnas insults makes her one of the most graceful waifu in all of anime.

Fortuna may not have been Emilia's mother but was definitely her mummy.

When Re:Zero wants to be wholesome, it excels.
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damn I'm at a loss for words. that was an amazing episode.
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What do you think would've happened had Lia went the other way and tried to escape the forest?

Would she have made it out? Would the witch simply have destroyed the whole forest and killed everyone in search of the key?
Were the death of Fortuna and the turning of Geuse inevitable either way? Did Lia actually save the lives of many people by freezing the whole forest and was this the better option compared to simply trying to run away?

What do you guys think?
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Lol little Emilia is stronk on her day!
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Geuse telling Subaru "Why are you acting insane when you clearly aren't?" hits so different now
hell yeah that was exactly what I'm thinking as well. Geuse had every rights to tell Subaru that he isn't even crazy
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New OP sounds nice!

I really wonder what atrocities Pandora did for her to deserve all these brutal attacks from Fortuna and Geuse. She's not even attacking and yet they attack her constantly. That friendly fire could've been easily avoided. Maybe it's because she looks so damn cute it will provoke you into destroying her in any form possible. lmao
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Well that explains how Betelgeuse became so insane ... damn.
Emilia was scary trying to kill Pandora, insane amount of power there.

Love that Roswaal doesn't know about Otto, seems like he was too insignificant to be mentioned or even considered to change the prophesy.
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Did someone else feel bad for Pandora?
I mean, she sounded very reasonable basically all the time, while others weren't even trying to discuss properly, but just insulting and trying to kill her without listening.
Her only problem was the cold way how she spoke to Emillia about Fortuna's death in the end, but, leaving that aside, I think she deserved some sympathy, especially considering how she healed Petelgeuse's arm and even removed Regulus from the place, who was certainly going to kill them.
And yes, I know that only the kind way how she spoke is not enough reason the know for sure that she is a good person, and it was quite clear that Fortuna knew more than the readers or viewers, as she was acting like she knew for sure that opening that door would be intrinsically bad, but I still feel like Fortuna could have just refused Pandora's proposal without attacking her like that, since Pandora seemed to be genuinely trying to have a peaceful conversation.
It wasn't even Pandora who killed Fortuna, but Petelgeuse because he went insane.
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Did someone else feel bad for Pandora?
I mean, she sounded very reasonable basically all the time, while others weren't even trying to discuss properly, but just insulting and trying to kill her without listening.
Her only problem was the cold way how she spoke to Emillia about Fortuna's death in the end, but, leaving that aside, I think she deserved some sympathy, especially considering how she healed Petelgeuse's arm and even removed Regulus from the place, who was certainly going to kill them.
And yes, I know that only the kind way how she spoke is not enough reason the know for sure that she is a good person, and it was quite clear that Fortuna knew more than the readers or viewers, as she was acting like she knew for sure that opening that door would be intrinsically bad, but I still feel like Fortuna could have just refused Pandora's proposal without attacking her like that, since Pandora seemed to be genuinely trying to have a peaceful conversation.
It wasn't even Pandora who killed Fortuna, but Petelgeuse because he went insane.

Yeah ikr, I agree, they were pretty rude to best girl Pandora, she didn't deserve all that crap.
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Mummykun said:
Did someone else feel bad for Pandora?
I mean, she sounded very reasonable basically all the time, while others weren't even trying to discuss properly, but just insulting and trying to kill her without listening.
Her only problem was the cold way how she spoke to Emillia about Fortuna's death in the end, but, leaving that aside, I think she deserved some sympathy, especially considering how she healed Petelgeuse's arm and even removed Regulus from the place, who was certainly going to kill them.
And yes, I know that only the kind way how she spoke is not enough reason the know for sure that she is a good person, and it was quite clear that Fortuna knew more than the readers or viewers, as she was acting like she knew for sure that opening that door would be intrinsically bad, but I still feel like Fortuna could have just refused Pandora's proposal without attacking her like that, since Pandora seemed to be genuinely trying to have a peaceful conversation.
It wasn't even Pandora who killed Fortuna, but Petelgeuse because he went insane.

Pandora had planned to kill every living soul in the forest if Fortuna refused to let her open the seal, until she surrendered.
Also, Petelgeuse went insane because she further messed up his memories - redirecting his love in a twisted manner - after he became highly unstable thanks to the Sloth Witch Factor.

She removed Regulus because he wouldn't let her 'try' to have a peaceful conversation at first. But don't get it wrong, despite that killing everyone isn't her goal, she knows for a fact that's it's a very effective way to get what you want and as previously explained, she planned to do so if things didn't go the way she wanted.
If she was actually there for peace, she would have reverted Petelgeuse's absorption of the Witch Factor, but she refused for her own enjoyment, effectively dooming Petelgeuse and what he had worked for during many years.

I don't think Pandora is simply evil, but she wouldn't hesitate to accomplish evil acts to achieve her goals.
She is considered the final boss and main antagonist/villain of the story (as of now) for a reason.

I'm quite curious to see how the main cast would interact with her if they meet in the future seasons.
Jul 12, 2021 9:58 AM

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lol, Pandora, maybe if you'd at least tried to actually talk towards your goal, not just randomly say whatever the fuck you wanted.. ;D Maybe you would accomplish your goal.. Like, sure, talking whatever you wanna is enjoyable, I guess.. But wouldn't it be even more enjoyable to achieve, what you wanted?.. You chose one pleasure over the other, though..
Echidna, I expect better from you as well, to be honest.. Your accusations towards Emilia doesn't really sound valid, to be honest.. It gives impression that you're being grumpy, jealous, or just angry, or something.. I expected you to be more intellectual, not just saying "freaking Emilia, you're bad, reeeeeeeeeee".. ;D Because it sounds like that.. ;P Claiming it's logic thinking is strange.. Give actual reasonable arguments, something better than "Emilia, you're selfish to want to wake up everyone, reeeeee".. ;D Come on, Echidna.. What would you call logical and unselfish thinking here then?.. Not wanting to wake up people?.. ;D Really?.. The most unselfish thing there is, of course.. ;P You really sound like old baba.. And I'm not too sure.. If you're character like this.. Maybe you just don't like Emilia, so that's why you're grumpy.. Or second explanation - writers did you dirty.. Just because we needed some opposition to Emilia, and doesn't matter, how much sense that opposition would make.. I hope you're just having hard day, Echidna, or just hate Emilia, and that's it.. ;D I guess, maybe that's the point.. To show that Echidna can be irrational and still clinging to rationalities, when she has some strong emotions against something.. But no idea, why exactly you were like that..
Jul 12, 2021 10:26 AM

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Gendolfas said:
Echidna, I expect better from you as well, to be honest.. Your accusations towards Emilia doesn't really sound valid, to be honest.. It gives impression that you're being grumpy, jealous, or just angry, or something.. I expected you to be more intellectual, not just saying "freaking Emilia, you're bad, reeeeeeeeeee".. ;D Because it sounds like that.. ;P Claiming it's logic thinking is strange.. Give actual reasonable arguments, something better than "Emilia, you're selfish to want to wake up everyone, reeeeee".. ;D
There is a reason for that. I don't remember if it was already in the LN (and anime skipped it) or if it will be later in the anime.

If you're curious, here is an answer.
Jul 12, 2021 10:40 AM

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There is a reason for that. I don't remember if it was already in the LN (and anime skipped it) or if it will be later in the anime.

If you're curious, here is an answer.


Ok, so it can be Echidna's hatred just talking after all.. I guess, Echidna also isn't a robot..
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Pandora and Regulus is badass af. I also like this two antagonists.
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