Anyone really frustrated in abusive slapstick humour in shoujo anime?

belka1213 said:
yeah that does piss me off, whenever I see this I wanna see the guy just punt the girl. Still, though, this trend extends beyond just shoujo into all kinds of genres (especially in shounen).

also there are no shortages of violent tsunderes in BL idk what ur reading

Auron_ said:
Is this something that disproportionately occurs in shoujo anime/manga? I don't watch much shoujo, but I sure see that trope played out a lot. I really doubt it's a significantly overrepresented in shoujo than it is in non-shoujo.

Momokiki20 said:
It's annoying, cringy and not funny.

But I think it happens a lot more in shounen romcoms, because from the 20 or something shoujo anime I watched most of them don't really have that kinda thing.

Mark_Jason said:


It happens all the time in Fruits Basket and Toradora, both popular shoujos

Teraplan0409 said:
I don't like this trope either but I don't think I've been seeing it in shoujo actually. It happens more often in shounen or some cheap rom coms.

Teraplan0409 said:



Toradora is actually not a shoujo. I think it's a romcom

Mark_Jason said:


It happens all the time in Fruits Basket and Toradora, both popular shoujos

belka1213 said:


Toradora isn't considered a shoujo; it's the magazine they are published in that makes them that. So Natsume Yuujinchou, which isn't romance, is also shoujo. I think thats why I disagreed with you on one part.

Mark_Jason said:


In BL its different as its two guys, they hit each other. And I can't remember any violent tsunderes in BL. What BL are you talking about?

But in straight romance it's s gender thing.

belka1213 said:


I don't keep track of manga so thats the best we have rn

Short_Circut said:
in FB's case, it does explain later on Kyo's reasoning for why he doesn't do anything about it (as well as why Kaguya does what she does)



but otherwise, yea that's honestly one of the worst tropes tbh, most of the time can't really see the entertainment in that kinda stuff. It's especially worse in cases like High Score Girl or Isuca where the main pairing have barely anything going for them anyways, just makes the abuse look more ridiculous

Doc21 said:
yeah it's very annoying we should definitely have a new tag called "slapstick humor" so that i can avoid watching them except if the anime is really incredible

Doc21 said:
yeah it's very annoying we should definitely have a new tag called "slapstick humor" so that i can avoid watching them except if the anime is really incredible

RadarDuker said:
I tolerate it in older anime. Probably why I prefer older anime so much more. I forgive a lot of "cliches" in older anime because at the time they were made they weren't necessarily cliche. New anime that keeps making the same jokes from 20 years ago over and over again definitely put me off.

Mark_Jason said:


He's not hitting him so it's different.
Guys hit each other rarely in BL like they do in romantic anime.

belka1213 said:


ok this


ya i know that ur right in this but I need to validate myself a little bit ok

romagia said:
no in fact it turns me on
i wasnt interested in these anime until now

belka1213 said:


ok this


ya i know that ur right in this but I need to validate myself a little bit ok

belka1213 said:


ok this


ya i know that ur right in this but I need to validate myself a little bit ok

romagia said:
no in fact it turns me on
i wasnt interested in these anime until now

Mark_Jason said:



You can't excuse violence though. It doesn't make it any better in my opinion.

This is extremely disappointing for FB, because I was excited for it and liked Kyo a lot.

Shame. What a way to ruin an anime.

Robotdick said:
I do think it's refreshing when the boy hits the girl back. There are several series that have this.

Short_Circut said:

eh, having at least some sort of proper justification for why characters behave the way they do is a lot better than all those characters who just brainlessly wack the dude every time

in Kagura's case,



so yes, you can't excuse violence, but a character who's violence is properly explained is far better than a character who's violence is just used for "shits and giggles" (at least with intense violence, not like Chuunibyou levels violence)

_Maneki-Neko_ said:

Glad they only have rape and absolutely toxic boyfriends in a lot, or at least too many, BLs. Welp.

saz3000 said:
Shounen AI isn't much better either what with all the rampant sexual assault and overly-possessive behavior. It's sad because the genre has stories with genuine heart but most people are understandably put off by it's rapey reputation.

Nalusa_Falaya said:
A bad lesson ? I wouldn't say so, If you take lessons from jokes in anime then you're doin something wrong, The comedy is amped to make it more funny, So basically instead of someone screaming or arguing with someone why doesn't he just falcon punch him to the sky ?, This isn't a formula for a funny joke but it's not like they're even attempting a useful moral in the first place, It's just a joke.

If you take this as "abusive" then you probably take Batman as a terrorist and Patrick as a mentally ill individual whom needs medical help

saz3000 said:
Shounen AI isn't much better either what with all the rampant sexual assault and overly-possessive behavior. It's sad because the genre has stories with genuine heart but most people are understandably put off by it's rapey reputation.

Mark_Jason said:



That's what feminists and some people say when guys hit girls for a joke in anime, so what is your point?

It's sexism teaching girls and boys it's OK to hit men because they don't care.

No, I don't see Batman as a terrorist. Now that was a strange comment.

Mark_Jason said:


That's what feminists and some people say when guys hit girls for a joke in anime, so what is your point?

It's sexism teaching girls and boys it's OK to hit men because they don't care.

No, I don't see Batman as a terrorist. Now that was a strange comment.

Ghemotoc said:

Heh I knew "le evil feminazis" was the actual subject from the beginning.

I'm here since 5 years and it's like the 100th thread like yours I read, and I didn't read a single one made by a "feminist" to complain about the opposite.

Watch better shows?

Mark_Jason said:


No, feminism wasn't the foundation of this topic, I am just saying they are the ones who complain about using violence on females as a humour.

Many other people wouldn't watch a guy hit a girl as a humour as well, but they don't mind girls abusing boys.

It's sexism ingrained in the society.

Nalusa_Falaya said:

One, Not because feminists say it that means it's right, I also think that many of them take these jokes way too seriously like it's some kind of movement for abusing women, It seems like you're trying to fight fire with fire, So basically I disagree with both you and many of the feminists since it doesn't matter who says it, What matters is the context of the "abuse"

Two, Bruh, Why are you trying to find lessons in anime jokes !? Not because it's in the show and the good guy does it means that you should too, Not everything is lesson.
The idea of everything should be morally right works in children stories where the knight saves the princess but in stuff like comedy, It's extremism IS one of the reason it's funny, And most people who don't take anime shows like moral guidebooks won't think "Oh the guy hit his friend in this joke, I'll go punch my friend in the face"

Also, I said the Batman part just to comment on you looking too deep into things and turning a lighthearted joke that most people will forget to some sexist abusive attack.