Attack on Titan
| Since the beginning of alliance a large amount of the fanbase has been displease with the manga and the possibility of Eren losing to the alliance. While on the other hand you have another part of the fanbase that is with the alliance and wants Eren to lose. Full metal alchemsit is regarding as one of if not the most loved anime of all time by most modern anime fans, its ending was pretty simple, beat the bad guy happy ending, ships and babies. Not to get me wrong though, the story and characters are top notch, but every story needs a solid ending to get to another level. Would it have been better if Isayama wasn't as ambitious as he was and just make for example Zeke the final villain Eren and company defeats Zeke and save the world, Mikasa marries Eren and everyone gets ship with someones. This is excluding the Eldian vs Marley plot line btw. Would you have prefer that, than if say Eren losses to the Alliance or the alliance losses to Eren? I'm asking both sides here. I personally think for Isayama to not disappoint both sides he would have to make Eren and the alliance to all die in the end and somehow all titan shifters and eldians lose their ability to turn into titans, this ending may not please everyone but at the same time it wouldn't piss of atleast I believe most persons as the Alliance is dead for the folks that want them to lose and that Eren is dead for the folks that wanted Eren to lose. I really don't know what the ending is, but I'm keeping a open mind. Some folks have already concluded that we are getting a happy ending, I'm not sure and one of the reason is this quote from one of Isayama latest interview and he may changed his mind but who knows. Isayama: "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." I have already concluded we are getting a bittersweet ending no matter what. Just keep this at the back of your head. |
| I dont think there is. Tbh the current plot development with the Alliance isnt a bad direction for the story to go to as well as Eren becoming the final villain.. but it just lacked a lot of dialogue heavy chapters to make it a smooth transition for the readers to accept the result. And I know they’re pressed on time but all of them being cool with it was just jarring especially after all the fights they’ve had. With 3 chapters left I don’t think Isayama can please most fans, but at the same time who cares. The expectations are super high for most and those with negative opinions have already been ranting and nitpicking for a year now so nothing will change their minds. With how the story currently stands, the rumbling being stopped by the Alliance and them saving the world would be an unsatisfactory ending. I just dont think that with 3 chapters you can go with that ending and make it enjoyable for most readers. |
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| Only if there’s a final plot twist regarding Eren, Ymir and the paths. I’m good with an alliance ending as long as it isn’t as direct as it seems, there must be something else regarding the true motivations of Eren. |
| I am convinced we are getting AnR and Isayama is only focusing so much on the alliance so it hits harder when they inevitably die. I predict half or near half of them dying. |
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| It's either gonna be full genocide or Eren just dies and it will be considered "sad". lol |
| The fandom is so divided there is no way to please everyone. So many people have their different interpretations of aot. Even if the ending follows through with the themes and what has been built up, people will still not like it if it deviates from what they wanted and will see anything else as an "asspull". As much as I will probably hate how controversial the ending's response will be, I wouldnt change the story. There will never be another series like this one. I just hope this ungrateful fandom doesn't go too crazy lmao |
 ╭⋟──────────────────────╮ "All problems come from the human mind. In the mind, one's consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the surface... the subconscious... is far more vast." - Shun Aonuma ╰──────────────────────⋞╯ |
angelyeager said: I'm very surprised people are still optimistic about the quality of the ending with just 3 chapters left and so many loose ends. It's not possible to tie everything together in 3 chapters, even for a great writer like Yams. Its not really about that tbh, its the overall outcome I am talking about, whether the loose ends are tied or not, if the fanbase doesn't like the outcome none of that matters. That is what I am really talking about, whether Eren loses or not, btw the final chapter maybe longer than normal just like most series that ends keep that in mind. So we could get basically a double length chapter for the final chapter, whether that is enough to tie all loose end is another thing all together. |
EnvyHenry said: let the ending be Eren waking up from bed, just to realize he had a long dream. Under the tree* Here, fixed it for ya |
| I just feel like people need to be more open to different endings and not just latch on to a certain ending and claim that everything other than it would be trash. For people who want Eren to win, I feel like he already did anyways he already killed hundreds of millions of people, the Alliance are just trying to save the remaining ones (which I feel like is not a lot), so there's really no happy ending for anyone involved anymore. Even if it's an Alliance win scenario, I'm sure most of them are going to die in the next couple of chapters, and the rest who survive will most likely be traumatized for life. Not to mention that the marleyans and eldians are still fighting each other even during the apocalypse (a.k.a mr. Leonnhart vs random marleyan soldiers), so I feel like that pretty much spells out that peace will not be achieved easily even if the Alliance wins, instead they will probably slowly accept each other over the course of decades. For the people who want the Alliance to win, an Eren winning scenario isn't awful either, it can still be written in a very satisfying way that would make sense, Eren winning doesn't necessarily have to mean Eren lives happily ever after, he already is very traumatized (as we've seen in chapter 131) and there's just no happiness for him anymore, so he will most likely suffer the consequences of his actions even if he ends up winning. For me personally, I support the Alliance because I disagree with what Eren is doing, but I don't mind if they lose as long as it's well-written. And I also believe that there might still be something else that would blow our minds and result in a very different and unique ending (I think it might be something involving Paths) but we'll see.. |
Roowanx said: Exactly, people fail to see that what could happen is Eren winning AND the alliance winning. Eren will rumble most of the people AND he will be stopped. This is a win-win situation but you could also see it as a lose-lose situation. Eren will achieve his goal in freeing the Eldians and the alliance will achieve their goal in saving whatever's left of humanity (I predict only people on fort Salta survive and will assimilate into Paradis, this should be believable since it's a small group and should satisfy even those fans who are against the ''peace'' ending).I just feel like people need to be more open to different endings and not just latch on to a certain ending and claim that everything other than it would be trash. For people who want Eren to win, I feel like he already did anyways he already killed hundreds of millions of people, the Alliance are just trying to save the remaining ones (which I feel like is not a lot), so there's really no happy ending for anyone involved anymore. Even if it's an Alliance win scenario, I'm sure most of them are going to die in the next couple of chapters, and the rest who survive will most likely be traumatized for life. Not to mention that the marleyans and eldians are still fighting each other even during the apocalypse (a.k.a mr. Leonnhart vs random marleyan soldiers), so I feel like that pretty much spells out that peace will not be achieved easily even if the Alliance wins, instead they will probably slowly accept each other over the course of decades. For the people who want the Alliance to win, an Eren winning scenario isn't awful either, it can still be written in a very satisfying way that would make sense, Eren winning doesn't necessarily have to mean Eren lives happily ever after, he already is very traumatized (as we've seen in chapter 131) and there's just no happiness for him anymore, so he will most likely suffer the consequences of his actions even if he ends up winning. For me personally, I support the Alliance because I disagree with what Eren is doing, but I don't mind if they lose as long as it's well-written. And I also believe that there might still be something else that would blow our minds and result in a very different and unique ending (I think it might be something involving Paths) but we'll see.. |
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| Unfortunately not. Ever since the prospect of the rumbling and a "bad" ending became a realistic possibility, some people now expect this to happen, and if the author shows any signs of deviating from that particular narrative, it'll be criticised, whether it's deserved or not. I don't personally agree that there needs to be a "bad" ending for it to be hailed as some sort of masterpiece, but each to their own. |
I_Am_Freeballing said: Exactly, people fail to see that what could happen is Eren winning AND the alliance winning. Eren will rumble most of the people AND he will be stopped. This is a win-win situation but you could also see it as a lose-lose situation. Eren will achieve his goal in freeing the Eldians and the alliance will achieve their goal in saving whatever's left of humanity (I predict only people on fort Salta survive and will assimilate into Paradis, this should be believable since it's a small group and should satisfy even those fans who are against the ''peace'' ending). True, this is another outcome that people don't want to consider.. I also like the part about the people in the fort being the only survivors because it might even lead to Historia accepting the last remaining survivors to Paradis and providing shelter for them or something as she's the queen (which would make sense considering what she said before about how whenever she sees someone cry about their lives being worthless she always wants to help them or something like that and that's basically how everyone in the outside world is feeling right now) I feel like that would be interesting considering she's been sidelined and reduced to pregnant lady for so long, I just want her to do something already because she had such great potential.. |
Swagmandias said: Couldn't have said it better myself. Either side winning is gonna have an almost hollow/tragic feel to it. There are no "winners" anymore, only victors. I'm team alliance myself, but I'm fine with Eren being the victor, so long as it's written well and isn't just "And they all died, the end". Same, I just don't want characters who had amazing developments and stories like Reiner, Armin, Jean and many others to be wasted like this and have them all die having achieved literally nothing and even being responsible for their own deaths.. If they do end up dying I hope there's meaning to their deaths other than making us feel bad for Eren for having to kill them.. |
deg said: that would be the best prank on AOT fans. Hahaha.EnvyHenry said: let the ending be Eren waking up from bed, just to realize he had a long dream. its all just a dream TvTrope people will be furious if that happens i almost want to see that shit storm lol |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
| Isn't Eren supposed to lose, that is just how it is. I am more surprised people will get upset at that. Like Deadman Wonderland's Genkaku Azuma, death is liberation. The guy has to die to be "free". |
| There will never be an ending that will please everyone. |
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| Well at first I thought that the alliance would win and then marley and eldia will "try" to be together peacefully . But in the latest chapter you could see that the marleyans and eldians are still fighting even tho there is a common enemy which is eren . Even if the alliance won , it shows that there will probably never be peace honestly . What if another eren comes ? What will they do then ? My guess that it would be neither eren winning nor the alliance . It will probably be something different but it has a really low chance of happening . |
  Something that’s supposed to die and doesn’t… will eventually rot away , whether it’s a man or a nation |
deg said: how about if Ymir brainwash all of humanity to forget every Eldians as a race, that will solve the racism? the founding titan did brainwashed the Eldians repeatedly anyway so what if in order to brainwash all of humanity and not just Eldians this time she uses all her powers sacrificing even the Titan powers of Eldians just to make the world brainwashing possible err ye the PATHS dimension is some magic shit anyway It has never been mentioned before and there isn't really any evidence to foreshadow that ending either . It would feel out of place . Imo it would be a really bad ending |
Something that’s supposed to die and doesn’t… will eventually rot away , whether it’s a man or a nation |
deg said: I thought this only worked on Eldians, then everything will go back to square one, instead, every Eldian will die due to titans. how about if Ymir brainwash all of humanity to forget every Eldians as a race, that will solve the racism? the founding titan did brainwashed the Eldians repeatedly anyway so what if in order to brainwash all of humanity and not just Eldians this time she uses all her powers sacrificing even the Titan powers of Eldians just to make the world brainwashing possible err ye the PATHS dimension is some magic shit anyway The Bad Ending. |
deg said: how about if Ymir brainwash all of humanity to forget every Eldians as a race, that will solve the racism? the founding titan did brainwashed the Eldians repeatedly anyway so what if in order to brainwash all of humanity and not just Eldians this time she uses all her powers sacrificing even the Titan powers of Eldians just to make the world brainwashing possible err ye the PATHS dimension is some magic shit anyway That wouldn’t make sense. Ymir can do that to eldians because as they’re all her descendants they’re all connected in the paths, that’s not the case with the rest of humanity. |
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