| 1. I want to see only the romanized title, i don't care at all about eng titles 2. People outside NA know the anime by their romanized names. It will be confusing |
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| 1. I only want to see the Romanized title and I hope we will be able to turn the english title off soon, because as it is now it just looks out of place. 2. Should be left as the romanized title too. |
| I have wished for the option to see My actual Anime List with the English titles for so long. 1 - The Headers look good as they currently are to me with the Romanized as the main header above the English if there is a difference. It really helps for those of us that mix between the two (Ie remembering Shingeki no Kyojin as Attack on Titan whilst remembering Higurashi as Higurashi and not When They Cry) to identify shows at a quicker glance. 2 - I think it should be the same as it is now for not logged in users, with both titles on the anime page's header and with the Romanized on lists so to not clutter those pages. That being said I would implement two separate toggles if possible one solely for the Headers on anime pages between (Traditional, English, Both) and one for Recommendations, Anime/Manga Lists and throughout the rest of the site (Traditional, English) with other languages maybe added later if there is a demand for it. That way people can decide to use MAL as a service that works best for their own needs |
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| i would prefer that the main title always be in romanised japanese - using hepburn romanisation - and never any other style. the sub-title should always be the official english title. if there is no official english title, there should be no sub-title. main title should always be in romanised japanese, no matter if the user is logged in or not. however, there should be an optional main title toggle for those that have accounts: japanese (kana/kanji), japanese (romaji) or english (official title). if either japanese option is selected, english would be the sub-title (unless there isn't one). if english is selected, a japanese option would be the sub-title, default romaji. database admins (cyruz, kineta, luna) and their underlings should also get onto changing the titles of those anime which are still in english (unless the official name is in english) for consistency's sake. for example: fullmetal alchemist: brotherhood (Hagane no Renkinjutsushi). it's been years since it was decided that anime and manga would have their names changed to their romanised form. |
loghneckbeardFeb 13, 2020 9:38 AM
| Random pop-in, still need to read all the replies, but... Tyestor said: I promised in some 20+ page Suggestions thread in like 2012(?) that we wouldn't change them until we got an English/Main title toggle :'Dit's been years since it was decided that anime and manga would have their names changed to their romanised form. |
| 1. Even after the toggle is implemented, would you prefer both titles in the h1/top header of Anime/Manga entries while being signed in? I prefer either Romanized and/or Both, but would not use English only. If keeping both in one header is a must, I would maybe hope the English title would size down a bit as to show it translated but not make the header bulky. I feel like most users here use the Romanized version in discussion, so English might be more preferred as just a smaller subtitle/subtext to the main vernacular title. 2, For not signed in users, what are your thoughts on switching the main title displayed to English? I'm in NA so I'm not really sure this applies to me, but when I'm not signed in, I still prefer seeing the Romanized name - I can still easily search in English and get the same result (without it being translated for me). But I suppose seeing both, with again the Romanized name more prominent should be fine??? |
Kineta said: Random pop-in, still need to read all the replies, but... Tyestor said: I promised in some 20+ page Suggestions thread in like 2012(?) that we wouldn't change them until we got an English/Main title toggle :'Dit's been years since it was decided that anime and manga would have their names changed to their romanised form. lol...i think i vaguely remember that. |
| 1. Even after the toggle is implemented, would you prefer both titles in the h1/top header of Anime/Manga entries while being signed in? I personally would prefer both titles in the header, I like how it looks! Does this affect any of the requirements in the 2020 Anime Watching Challenge or do we still just use the "main" title? |
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| Oh finally, is the day when I'll actually be able to read my list approaching? 1. Ideally, on anime pages, I'd like to be able to see both titles but choose which one is on top. I prefer the official English titles almost universally, but it's nice to easily be able to see both since some are better identified by one or the other. 2. Well, I would like this (and I live in NA), but I'm also not the main audience of sub-only weebs that MAL is primarily home to. 3. Keep up the good work, Kineta and MAL team! |
Schlopsi said: The title in the <a> link would be displayed in your title of choice everywhere on the site (including other user's lists).@Kineta How would the toggle actually work? If user A uses the toggle for english titles, but user B doesn't - how will it be shown in manga lists? Totally not asking because of the Manga Reading Challenge, which could end up in chaos in regards of checking forms and such if user A uses a different name than user B, etc... Schlopsi said: The mod staff has always felt like you, that romanized titles are more internationally friendly. But streaming has changed dynamics and CR simulcasts many titles on multiple continents with English titles (I believe?) And while we still appear near the top for most Google search results, for overpowered shounen titles, somehow we often sink... Once the toggle is in place, we can theoretically test to see which works best, but it's always interesting to hear live people's opinions and not just statistics.2. I don't see any reason why this change should be made at all tbh. [...] As a database that gets accessed by people all over the world, a change like that wouldn't benefit all imo. |
| 1. I definitely prefer the romanized title being there as that's the one I always use, but I think I'm okay with the English title (if any) being underneath since I may sometimes reference the English title for people who don't really watch anime, for example. I'm also a bit uncertain about whether it's even good to put the English title up there, because don't some anime have more than one possible English title? That would then make it confusing since there might be debate over which is the proper one... In any case, an option might be good. 2. I'm not from North America and I think it would be better to keep the default as the romanized title. But I do know that a lot of casual watchers who may or may not look at MAL without making an account may know the English title better...so perhaps making it clearer (somewhere more easy for them to see, under the picture is not that obvious in my opinion) would be better? |
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1. Even after the toggle is implemented, would you prefer both titles in the h1/top header of Anime/Manga entries while being signed in? This could be an optional feature yah? Defaulted to both Kineta said: Schlopsi said: The mod staff has always felt like you, that romanized titles are more internationally friendly. But streaming has changed dynamics and CR simulcasts many titles on multiple continents with English titles (I believe?) And while we still appear near the top for most Google search results, for overpowered shounen titles, somehow we often sink... Once the toggle is in place, we can theoretically test to see which works best, but it's always interesting to hear live people's opinions and not just statistics.2. I don't see any reason why this change should be made at all tbh. [...] As a database that gets accessed by people all over the world, a change like that wouldn't benefit all imo. On CR/netflix/streaming platforms making anime as english title, would it not matter for MAL since search engine results comes up as both? eg fire force Also, considering how googles algorithm works, there wouldn't be a change in search rank placement due to no change in keyword frequency (excluding both the Romanization+English name now showing in the header) right? Unless there's a plan that when a non-signed users is on the site, the title is changed to English on every reference of the title name. I guess you can test anyway but pretty sure there will be no difference from search engine results in the main title being English or Romanized. |
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| 1. Yes, I'd absolutely prefer both the titles to be displayed even after toggle, having both titles would be really helpful. 2. I'm not from America, and I would support having the main titles in English because searching the titles in English is more easier and remembering the romanized titles are relatively more hard for some anime. (For example, everyone only knows it as Ghost in the Shell and not as "Koukaku Kidoutai"). Thanks for bringing this change. |
| I only really use/refer to romanized titles, unless the Japanese title is ridiculously long (looking at you, Special Investigation Crime Unit). So even if the toggle is implemented, I don't really want both titles displayed. Same for the English title when not signed in. Especially when I'm out and about and suddenly logged out of my devices, I still want to be able to view the romanized titles as usual. Maybe make the toggle available for both signed and not signed in users? Or as a supplement to toggle, you can try implementing a hover instead (no idea what the official term for that is). Like, hovering above the title of an anime/manga displays their romanized/English title, depending on what you have set as default. |
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| Ok, lemme answer this as "Indonesians representative." Q1. Even after the toggle is implemented, would you prefer both titles in the h1/top header of Anime/Manga entries while being signed in? A1. Well, I don't think so. Because oftenly, I don't use English title to referencing the anime. Instead, I'll use the synonym nor the "official abbreviation" of the shows. IF there's also any toggle to change Romaji (default) titles into Native titles, I'd love that feature as I also learning on how to read the word of it. Q2. For not signed in users, what are your thoughts on switching the main title displayed to English? A2. For Indonesian itself, it was a no-no. Lot of us references the titles of the shows BASED on official romaji title, not English. Even on the official streaming sites for anime in Indonesia use a lot of English titles for it, we still use romaji LOL. Seriously, if MAL decided to change ALL the series titles to English on their DB, we'll screaming a lot because we lacks of experiences on English :v |
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| Im very happy with this change so far, it resolves a lot of issues and I dont see any problems that can arise from it. Although it might take a while to get used to... also im from Europe, but since English is my first language it doesn't bother me and wouldn't make sense for me to be the one who answer your second question (Im in the UK) |
SeijatachiiiiFeb 14, 2020 8:47 AM
| Some entries currently have only an English title and a Kanji Japanese title. Will we be adding Romanized Japanese titles to these entries? |
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| 1. I would only want to see romanized titles. (I might like seeing both titles if it didn't look bad like it does right now.) 2. (I'm outside of NA) I don't care either way, but I can imagine the change being controversial. |
| I like this idea. I think showing both at the top is fine. If you chose to only show one, I'd prefer you keep the romanized title. Some English titles aren't faithful to the original at all, so I prefer to see the romanized version. The idea to give people the option to toggle to their preference if they are signed in is a great idea that should leave everyone satisfied. |
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| I really liked this change. But a question I'm asking myself for a while, what about Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood's name? Shouldn't it be Fullmetal Alchemist/Hagane no Renkinjutsushi (2009) following the protocol? Sorry if this one is a FAQ of some sort, I really didn't bother searching for the answer in the forums. |
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| 1. I would prefer both the titles to appear. It makes things easier if when I remember only the English title. 2. Yes switching the main title to English would be nice for non signed in users as when I had first visited MAL, I mostly only knew the English titles so I faced a lot trouble with searching for the titles.[Also am from outside of NA] |
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| I actually like having both Romanized and English titles at the top of the pages. This way I don't have to scroll down the page just to check the other version to see if it's a show I recognize/have seen. Having toggles for one, the other, or both seems like a good way to approach this for a world-wide user base. We can choose which versions of the titles we want to see, and toggle off the rest. If the future brings the ability to also toggle the title in a user's native language, great. |
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| (I've asked this twice already and haven't gotten a response. Third time's the charm?...) There are some titles in the database that don't currently have a romanized title, only English and Kanji titles. Are there plans to add romanized titles for these? |
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| 1. I only use japanese romanized titles and every atempt at forcing english one on top would be additional bother that pushes me away from this site (and it already forces me to use other site and update this periodicaly due to lack of functional API). Don't mind if switching this will be fully optional. 2. That should be answer to question if you want to be international service or english speaking one. International should obviously use oryginal romanized. |
| 1) I think only one is better for clearness. 2) I'm a South American and I think it's a bad Idea because the anime culture itself is based in the Japanese language so the Japanese language (romanized) should be the default choice. |
| Yes, please! It makes not want to go to an anime page, tbh. Next thing, add a toggle to remove all the alternative names/nicknames of a character from the header. Anyway: 1. Nooo, romanized only. 2. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Really, though, as a once logged out user, I still preferred the romanized titles. I get the logic, but I'm not sure if English titles only on the header would accomplish actually accomplish anything. |
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mwalimu said: (I've asked this twice already and haven't gotten a response. Third time's the charm?...) There are some titles in the database that don't currently have a romanized title, only English and Kanji titles. Are there plans to add romanized titles for these? Could you link me some of these entries please? |
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All of those titles are written in katakana, they're loanwords. Following MAL's standard and our guidelines shall all loanwords from other languages be spelled in the original language, where possible. Although a selected few has some readings in kanji (e.g. Prison School and Highschool of the Dead) but they also include a katakana reading, indicating that the author wants the title to be commercialized and known by its katakana reading. Most of those titles also have their intended spellings in the cover photo (e.g. Perfect Blue, Gunslinger Girl, etc.). I understand what you're saying, you want e.g. Perfect Blue to be written as Paafekuto Buruu, since the Japanese title is パーフェクトブルー. But we've decided that we will spell all loanwords in it's original language, so all of those titles are correct, following MAL's standard. I hope that that makes sense. |
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Jicetus said: All of those titles are written in katakana, they're loanwords. Following MAL's standard and our guidelines shall all loanwords from other languages be spelled in the original language, where possible. Although a selected few has some readings in kanji (e.g. Prison School and Highschool of the Dead) but they also include a katakana reading, indicating that the author wants the title to be commercialized and known by its katakana reading. Most of those titles also have their intended spellings in the cover photo (e.g. Perfect Blue, Gunslinger Girl, etc.). I understand what you're saying, you want e.g. Perfect Blue to be written as Paafekuto Buruu, since the Japanese title is パーフェクトブルー. But we've decided that we will spell all loanwords in it's original language, so all of those titles are correct, following MAL's standard. I hope that that makes sense. What about Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood's name? Shouldn't it be Fullmetal Alchemist/Hagane no Renkinjutsushi (2009) following the protocol? I'm pretty sure that first name is west exclusive localization name and has no place at all in the Japanese lands. Are you planning on changing that one as well? That's kinda the only inconsistency I could find thus far. |
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Danpmss said: What about Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood's name? Shouldn't it be Fullmetal Alchemist/Hagane no Renkinjutsushi (2009) following the protocol? I'm pretty sure that first name is west exclusive localization name and has no place at all in the Japanese lands. Are you planning on changing that one as well? That's kinda the only inconsistency I could find thus far. Fullmetal Alchemist is an historic English title in the database, and it will eventually be changed to its romanized counterpart. However, we will wait for a global JP/EN toggle before modifying it. The reason we haven't changed it is because if we did it now it'll just create confusion since it's been like that since the dawn of time. But yes you are correct, Hagane no Renkinjutsushi is what FMA's title should be. There are other titles that's just as FMA, but I'm drawing a blank, can't think of them... But the same applies for those as well, it will be changed later on. Edit: Fixed typos. |
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| Useless and not helpful. I seldom use the English titles And I am frankly not interested in them. |
| That's nice. Useful for some people and certain titles that are better known in English than Japanese title due to the English title being the original title in some cases. |
| 1. Yes 2. Agreed with post #50 - showing both names with the romanized at top because it's the 'original' one 3. I'm fine thank you. |
| 9 out of 10 times you'll see people use the English titles anyway, if you're not Japanese you're not gonna remember what Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso is, you're gonna remember it's called your lie in april because it doesn't sound like complete gibberish to you But so far mal is the only place where I see people almost exclusively use romanized titles so it might be better for the mal user base to keep it like that by default, but its still gonna be confusing to those who usually don't use the site Non English native btw |
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| I normally use English titles makes Conversation flow easier in group discussions. Easier to introduce a friend to Attack on Titan than SnK. We also use heavily Bastardized names for anime too calling an anime Slime anime instead of the full name. |
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| 1. As someone who is always looking for manga... knowing the licensed English name is of the upmost importance. Seeing both titles is important to me. It is shocking to me how many favorites I didn’t know were licensed do to failure of many websites to document the English title. 2. I am USA. I feel not logged in showing both names would be important.... :/ romanized title prob more important to the international audience, |
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| That's good news, seems like a good interface update, tbh. |
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grave_robberApr 7, 2020 1:59 AM
| Having both Japanese and English titles is definitely the best option. |
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