Which anime do you think has the worst/most toxic HATERS?
| People keep talking about how toxic this and this and that fan base, especially shounen fan bases. but for some reason I rarely see people talking about haters, who are a hundred times worse and more toxic. In your opinion, which anime has the worst/most toxic HATERS among the ones listed? I've tried to list the ones I know get lot of hate. In my opinion it's Demon Slayer haters, without a doubt. Not because I like Demon Slayer, but because that's what I actually think, based on what I have been seeing on social media in the past months. DS haters are by far the worst and most toxic people I have seen in a long time. Constantly calling every single person who likes DS retarded, Normies, kids, KnYtards and many other variants of these. It is seriously pathetic. Although SAO haters are terrible as well, they literally hate on everyone who says any good about it, they trash talk even if you just mention SAO... I guess I'd still go with KnY, but it's a close one. |
-Aincrad-Jan 26, 2020 1:17 AM
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| Jojo haters are even worse than its fans lol. Almost each time I see someone shitting on Jojo I get a huge portion of cringe |
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| Hatebase? Like, they hate that particular show, or they hate when others criticize their show? |
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| All of them are toxic. Pure hate is always toxic. It isn't bad to not like something. But to constantly hate on it for years and years and years is kinda pathetic. When I don't like something I say: "That was a baaaaad product and I don't like it" and then I stop thinking about it. |
FireRifle64 said: Hatebase? Like, they hate that particular show, or they hate when others criticize their show? By hate base I was referring to those who hate the show(and hate the people who like it). |
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| Aot haters be like "fascist and overrated show" Jojo haters most of the time says "guys it's from jojo laugh" Demon slayer fans on the other hand gets hate by other shows fans which you mentioned too how ironic. Don't really care about one piece haters but they always complain about art style and says watch one piece bro it gets better in episode 400 trust me. But the one I think is most annoying is sword art online, don't really think it fans deserves that much hate. |
Ri22rkJan 25, 2020 2:04 PM
| a majority of these shows, I never really hear of a hate base, granted, I never really go to see a hate base |
| "Perfection is perception. For me, humanity's imperfections is what makes it perfect" |
| I would say Jojo haters if I had to chose 1. I understand some people may get triggered by Jojo fans, but the actual series is a classic imo. |
rohan121Jan 25, 2020 8:23 AM
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FireRifle64 said: You are referring to the toxic fans who can't take criticism of their favourite shows.Hatebase? Like, they hate that particular show, or they hate when others criticize their show? On the topic,I haven't met any such dedicated hater on the internet yet.So,no vote from me. |
-Aincrad- said: FireRifle64 said: Hatebase? Like, they hate that particular show, or they hate when others criticize their show? By hate base I was referring to those who hate the show(and those people who like it). Alright, thank you for the explanation, I would probably say between 3 groups, JoJo, Demon Slayer, and AoT. Probably would be a tie mainly between JoJo and Demon. granted, I am only assuming |
| "Perfection is perception. For me, humanity's imperfections is what makes it perfect" |
| Why is this a discussion anyone wants to get going? The threads were looking relatively nice for once. These type of threads are the absolute worst. It just becomes a place for people to vent lol |
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| I agree that Demon Slayer has the most toxic haters. I remember as soon the series exploded and became mainstream it garnered a lot of hate, most of which being unjustified. I might just be saying that since it’s the most recent one to garner a lot of hate. |
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rohan121 said: I would say Jojo haters if I yad to chose 1. I understand some people may get triggered by Jojo fans, but the actual series is a classic imo. Jojo fans are pretty annoying so I get the hate for the fanbase. |
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| I don't discriminate, every single hatedom is similarly toxic because who in the fuck gets enjoyment out of hating on thing aside from toxic individuals? Fuck anyone partaking in any of such bullshit. The only (legitimate) reasons some fans are seen as toxic are also not because they like something, but because some hatred for something else is born out of them being fans of something. For example they might end up hating on people who don't give their favorite a try or didn't enjoy it or call people homophobic because they don't agree with their headcanon ship and be seen as toxic because of that. But it's actually not related to them being a fan of X, it's just people with shitty personalities who'd always be toxic, whether they're being a fan of something or not. Fandom itself is NEVER toxic, while hatedoms are inherently and always toxic. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Attackonfiller said: Why is this a discussion anyone wants to get going? The threads were looking relatively nice for once. These type of threads are the absolute worst. It just becomes a place for people to vent lol I made this thread because I need attention. |
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Missaliensan said: rohan121 said: I would say Jojo haters if I yad to chose 1. I understand some people may get triggered by Jojo fans, but the actual series is a classic imo. Jojo fans are pretty annoying so I get the hate for the fanbase. Annoying and toxic are two very different things tho. I'd hesitate to call even the most annoying fanboys 'toxic'. |
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Pullman said: Annoying and toxic are two very different things tho. I'd hesitate to call even the most annoying fanboys 'toxic'. Yeah i wouldn´t say they are necessarily toxic(because they are not),at most they just come off as mildly annoying because of how passionate they are about it.And even then i wouldn´t use that as a reason to hate on the anime,but apparently people do that,which is why `hatedoms exist´.I personally consider the fanbase and the show as two separate things,i would never use the fanbase as an excuse to hate on an anime.Of course people have legitimate reasons to hate the fanbase,but i don´t see that as a reason to hate on the anime itself. |
SummerynJan 25, 2020 8:35 AM
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-Aincrad- said: Attackonfiller said: Why is this a discussion anyone wants to get going? The threads were looking relatively nice for once. These type of threads are the absolute worst. It just becomes a place for people to vent lol I made this thread because I need attention. Who doesn't appreciate honesty? Not me. I strongly dislike hate and toxicity, I can't pick just one. There, I said it. |
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| JoJo's fans and it's not even a competition for me... |
Shoko664 said: JoJo's fans and it's not even a competition for me... Alright, but the topic is not toxic fans this time. |
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| Sword Art Online haters is the worse thing I have seen, even if it's a show I enjoy watching I understand that it got it's issues. But some haters take it to a whole new level. I see a lot of people saying JoJo, never really seen any haters more then me. And I just think the show si way to childish, does that make me into one of the worse kind of haters 🤔 |
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| The result so far is pretty similar to that of a toxic fan base poll someone has created a while ago. I wonder if everyone is voting knowing this poll is not about toxic fans. |
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-Aincrad- said: Shoko664 said: JoJo's fans and it's not even a competition for me... Alright, but the topic is not toxic fans this time. Oh I've read it differently MB, I guess I'll go with the Kimetsu no Yaiba hate-base as much as I myself dislike the KNY fan base the hate-base for it is far worse... |
Daniel_Naumov said: -Aincrad- said: By hate base I was referring to those who hate the show(and hate the people who like it). You mean you were referring to the people who criticize a series which most if the times is flawed? I´m pretty sure OP is referring to the people who trashtalk and hate on a shown mindlessly and not the ones who are actually legimitely criticising the show for its flaws.Nobody is going to hate on you for criticising the show in a civil way,but people are going to hate you once you start to throw insults into the mix because that will be considered a personal attack. |
SummerynJan 25, 2020 8:55 AM
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Daniel_Naumov said: -Aincrad- said: By hate base I was referring to those who hate the show(and hate the people who like it). You mean you were referring to the people who criticize a series which most if the times is flawed? No, I was referring to those who trash talk about a series and their fans unjustifiably and for no actual reason. |
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| Every hate base is just pathetic, if you don't like something just move on. How does one have so much free time on their hands? |
| The OP kind of missed the isekai and "trapped in a game" hatedoms...many of those titles are shounen. Also I am a proud member of the Code Geass hatedom which makes its automatically +20% worst. |
| KnY isn't anything ground breaking or amazing anyways. I can tell that without having seen/read it. If anything needs ufotable to get the attention that it lacked before that, then it means it has more to do with ufotable than the source itself. I will never understand why people would hate shows like KnY, BnHY etc. They are all pretty decent shows, or at least that's what it seems to me and easily more accessible to younger fans (a roundabout way of saying "kids" because that seem like offensive nowadays). I don't think it's a criticism because they are ultimately targeted towards "shounen" demography. Personally I think the most hated is Bleach (and probably rightly so because of the way it ended and much before that how it went to a spiral decline in quality - every new arc was worse than the previous one). But of course, you are most likely new to anime and only paying attention to the show you like. There is a thing called recency as well which clouds one's judgment. The comment you are seeing regarding KnY is actually peanuts share compared to what JoJo, Gintama, Bleach, Fairy Tail, Magi, Naruto etc. received over the years from the anime community when the community itself was a tenth of the size it is right now. Anyone who thinks KnY or BnHA are the most hated simply haven't been part of the anime community long enough to see the real toxicity anyways. |
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JoyBoy_316 said: Every hate base is just pathetic, if you don't like something just move on. How does one have so much free time on their hands? You're right. I have no idea how one can 3 minutes free time to make a thread like this. |
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Daniel_Naumov said: -Aincrad- said: No, I was referring to those who trash talk about a series and their fans unjustifiably and for no actual reason. Then, in case they express their reasons in a clear and coherent manner, then it is not a "hating" anymore, do I understand it correctly? It is not hating until they can justify their statements with valid reasons. Like if they call an anime generic or bad/overrated, and they actually list some examples to why they think that, then that's simply just a reasonable opinion. But if they simply call it overrated, or even worse, trash/sh*t/everything, that's obvious hate. This is my opinion at least. |
-Aincrad-Jan 25, 2020 10:26 AM
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| The most annoying hatebase for shonen anime seems to be Demon Slayer haters. I mean, nowadays they don't even give it credit for the good things it has done. I mean I can't believe someone can give a haha react when you say Demon Slayer has good animation. But if you include all kinds of haters then the top 5 would be: 1) Sword Art Online haters 2) Sword Art Online haters 3) Sword Art Online haters 4) Sword Art Online haters 5) Sword Art Online haters And did I say Sword Art Online haters? Seriously the worst hatebase for anything, the fiction world has ever seen. |
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shanimebib said: Anyone who thinks KnY or BnHA are the most hated simply haven't been part of the anime community long enough to see the real toxicity anyways. Well, that might actually be true. I myself believe the KnY hate base is the worst, based on what I have been seeing in the last months on social media, and I've been an active anime fan for only a little longer than a year. |
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| In my experience, as an outsider to shounen, I'd say Fairy Tale. Because people attack the actual show in more serious ways. Like, I've seen people who are perfectly reasonable about most shows / genres / fanbases suddenly turn full asshole mode on Fairy Tale. There might be more haters of other shows, but with Fairy Tale it's often less the case that it's bad because it's shounen, but bad because it's Fairy Tale. Bear in mind I haven't seen it. It might genuinely be bad. I try to withhold judgment, but how good or bad it is doesn't excuse to kind of attacks it gets. Plenty of shows aren't particularly "good" by many peoples standards, but most people can accept that they're at least just a bit of fun not ot be taken seriously. It seems different with Fairy Tale. Like there's a real deep hatred of it. Or... not even that, it's just dismissed as garbage. In a way, the lack of effort people put in to hating on it is worse becuase it's not taken seriously. At least with other shows people take them seriously enough to attack them at length. Hmm. Re-reading that it's kind of rambly but hopefully people get my point. |
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| MHA haters are as toxic as MHA fans. But every hate base is pathetic, in my opinion. You may not like something, but why bother with the excessive hate? I don't like Nanatsu no Taizai at all but I scored it a 3 (for the effort) and I just don't bother hating on it everywhere. |
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nanimeanswhat said: MHA haters are as toxic as MHA fans. But every hate base is pathetic, in my opinion. You may not like something, but why bother with the excessive hate? I don't like Nanatsu no Taizai at all but I scored it a 3 (for the effort) and I just don't bother hating on it everywhere. Seriously. What's the point? I hate Fairy Tail. But I don't join the Fairy Tail hate bandwagon as I know it's a popular anime and a lot of people love it. Anyways I'm surprised, so few people are voting Fairy Tail. The hatebase is only second to SAO in toxicity. |
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YossaRedMage said: In my experience, as an outsider to shounen, I'd say Fairy Tale. Because people attack the actual show in more serious ways. Like, I've seen people who are perfectly reasonable about most shows / genres / fanbases suddenly turn full asshole mode on Fairy Tale. There might be more haters of other shows, but with Fairy Tale it's often less the case that it's bad because it's shounen, but bad because it's Fairy Tale. Bear in mind I haven't seen it. It might genuinely be bad. I try to withhold judgment, but how good or bad it is doesn't excuse to kind of attacks it gets. Plenty of shows aren't particularly "good" by many peoples standards, but most people can accept that they're at least just a bit of fun not ot be taken seriously. It seems different with Fairy Tale. Like there's a real deep hatred of it. Or... not even that, it's just dismissed as garbage. In a way, the lack of effort people put in to hating on it is worse becuase it's not taken seriously. At least with other shows people take them seriously enough to attack them at length. Hmm. Re-reading that it's kind of rambly but hopefully people get my point. Funny because this reminds me of craftsdwarf´s videos going into detail about Fairy Tail and why it´s bad when you take into consideration the numerous glaring flaws it has.I really liked those videos because they legitimately picked apart the reasons why the show is considered as garbage as it is,with plenty of reasoning backing it up. |
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prophet_dan said: Monochrosanity said: i think most of the hate was accumlated on demon slayer because the people watching it before ep19 happened would say that even if they did something amazing it wouldn't be anything special and then they see people making it out to be the greatest anime of all time *cough*ninja*cough* and yeah most people would flip their lid at the sight of itI agree that Demon Slayer has the most toxic haters. I remember as soon the series exploded and became mainstream it garnered a lot of hate, most of which being unjustified. I might just be saying that since it’s the most recent one to garner a lot of hate. To be fair I did find it annoying how it was getting praised as the greatest anime. I definitely think it didn’t help keep things civil. I just feel hating an anime because of the fandom is stupid. |
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-Aincrad- said: Daniel_Naumov said: Then, in case they express their reasons in a clear and coherent manner, then it is not a "hating" anymore, do I understand it correctly? It is not hating until they can justify their statements with valid reasons. Like if they call an anime generic or bad/overrated, and they actually list some examples to why they think that, then that's simply just a reasonable opinion. But if they simply call it overrated, or even worse, trash/sh*t/everything, that's obvious hate. This is my opinion at least. To weigh in on this, I'd say the difference comes down to humility. If you're going to criticize a show you need to realize that it will be very precious to some people and you need to phrase yourself in a way that makes it clear you're being humble and it's just your opinion. If you're then going to claim there's some more objective elements, you need to step it up and be even more careful with language. Of course, that only matters if you care about being a nice person, which might depend on your mood and who you are talking to. Also, if you are interested in getting rises out of people (trolling), getting Twitter clout (attention seeking), or getting website / YouTube views (jouranlism / business)... all of these things disincentivize being kind to others. But if one is interested in a serious conversation, open to maybe learning from - and perhaps even convincing - the person they're talking to, they need to use language in a way that allows them give an opinion without pissing the other person off. And that's all about humility. Unless of course the other person has a ridiculously low bar for what pisses them off, in which case fuck em. |
| “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” -Friedrich Nietzsche Aggregate scoring is bad for the anime fandom |
| Obnoxious JoJo fans and haters are literally two sides of the same coin. |
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| I've been in the anime fandom since 1997 and have never seen anything worse than SAO anti-fans. It's unfathomable how disgusting their behavior is; you can just mind your own business and they come shit on you. :( ...fortunately they seem to have mellowed a bit. |
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