| I wouldn't judge someone to do so, after all if you're a virgin and in love with someone, it makes sense you would have your first time with that person precisely But if it isn't the case (like me), nah, just have fun when you want to |
| Nope, whoopsie daisies. Blame it on parties lmfao |
| "alexa, cure my crippling anxiety" |
| Thankfully I am not because I wanted to wait when I was a teen. If I had waited for marriage or for love, I would be an eternal virgin since I never felt romantic love or will ever get married. |
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FlowersInTheRain said: You debate in this thread is interesting because back when I was in school me and my friends walking home from school one day had this exact same discussion. About whether saving it for marriage was worth it vs getting experience in sex before meeting the one. Well let me tell you guys something. Yes, I was one who wanted to wait for marriage before losing my virginity but that didn't happen. Instead I got into relationship after relationship and many of those relationships either I or the other person cheated. So basically you could end up with emotional damage / baggage / trauma. And then of course there are the usual risks such as unwanted pregnancy or STDs to worry about. I think if two people who are virgins meet each other then that is perfect. They can learn and master sex together. Even if it is awkward to begin with I don't think that should matter. How many people have been awkward on the first date just talking? If that is okay then awkward sex now and then should be acceptable also. I never believed in no sex before marriage because of the legal binding of marriage and how it limits the couple's ability to test their boundries with eachother. Also due to the politicism of marriage there are people who can be married and I am not for limiting their ability to have a healthy relationship. Railey2 said: most annoying response ever. I never said that it's needed, just that it makes everything better. Logically speaking, saving your virginity on purpose will make your relationship with "the one" worse, at least temporarily. It's objectively true for like 98% of all people (excluding the people that have a kinks for that sorta stuff) that having sex when you're experienced with people that are also experienced beats having awkward virgin sex. Almost any relationship benefits from sexual experience, and that's a fact. Enough with your stupid quibbling. The whole "save yourself for your future husband"-thingie is a social norm that came from a time where the best birth control was pulling out, where saving yourself wasn't just a weird purity fetish, but actually a rational consideration (because you don't want to be pregnant when you're not married in 1600 AD). Nowadays it's obsolete and only weirdos and religious nuts do it. Go figure. You literally said it can't be good without lots of experience under their belt and even went as far as saying it will be unpleasant for their partner. That sure sounds like saying it's needed to be a good experience. Even if someone has experience that doesn't make them good at sex. It's all down to how much someone cares about the pleasure of their partner and being intuitive to what's good for that specific person Fake statistics and personal attacks aren't helping your argument. Relationships are more than just sex and sex is more than physical pleasure |
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| i dont think so, i like to preserve myself because i like the smell of my body odor when i sweat |
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| Hmm. I'm a virgin because I don't get out much, and even when I do, it's in carefully selected groups of friends. It used to bother me in highschool when all my friends would want to talk about is who they're having sex with, but not so much anymore. For some time I might've said I was waiting for the 'special someone', but now I'm kinda of the attitude that I'd probably have sex with anyone who wanted to. I just don't go seeking it out like some people do at clubs and stuff. Mainly because I'm very anxious in-person, but also because I just spend most of my time sleeping, studying, or exercising. I guess this'll have to change at some point. |
Red-Berry-Vodka said: sure, my virginity belongs to my 2D husband. ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ wakabayashi is worth it i don't blame you |
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| Nah I just can’t get girls lol #virginsdontlose |
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| Originally I was pretty firmly in the "waiting" category to the point it made me uncomfortable to think of not waiting. Then one night during one of my relationships I got woken up and was asked if I'd go for it and in my sleepy daze I just did it. Not gonna neg on people's beliefs but to me now it seems like a silly naivety. Your value as a person or romantic interest does not decrease if you screw a few times, nor does anyone else's. Not necessarily supporting extreme promiscuity here though, not gonna tell people how to live but if you bag a new lady/guy every week or two you can't be surprised when potential interests are a little concerned about it. For one it's simply unsanitary but this is semi-off topic. |
| Nico nico ni~eed a siggy like the all the cool kids Really wish we had a rep system so I could farm it and spam rep+ |
| If you're thinking that, then you most likely are thinking too much. If you wanna bang, then go bang |
Nym_ said: i'm poor and nerdy, so nobody want to do it with me on a tree branch or while diving on the ocean though, lol xD why everyone want to do it either on the bed or lying on a ground? it's just too plain don't you think? ~,~ i'd like to try doing it once while sky diving tbh :/ lol! Sounds as risky as those Russian guys who jump around on the rooftops of tall buildings.  |
| No, I lost my virginity at 14 in haystack at a barn in France. I would do the same again as I have no regrets. |
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Nim0174 said: Red-Berry-Vodka said: sure, my virginity belongs to my 2D husband. ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ wakabayashi is worth it i don't blame you ^ Love it! Thanks for the quotation. .. |
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| No. It's more because my religion forbides me to touch opposite sex. In my teenage years, I was dating too. I couldn't control myself sometimes and enjoying times with my girlfriend when we were alonr, but I was never brave enough to go that far. |
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Nym_ said: FlowersInTheRain said: lol! Sounds as risky as those Russian guys who jump around on the rooftops of tall buildings. well, for some people, adrenaline works just like a love potion. it enhances the sensation. You don't have to do anything life threatening to have adrenaline. I mean people that have sex public places get a rush for example. But even that isn't inherently needed at least at first. |
| i'm 32. lost my virginity in 2004 br0. |
Just_A_ManBOi said: That avatar has lost it's virginity to it's hand before.i dont think so, i like to preserve myself because i like the smell of my body odor when i sweat |
 サディスティックな考え "JUST KILL ME." サディスティックマインド |
| Lost it to a escort, was fun but felt quite depressed the next weeks after it lmao |
Railey2 said: I think people who keep their virginity for that special someone have it backwards. Basically what you're saying is this: "When I meet the love of my life I want to suck so hard at sex because of my lack of experience, it'll be a right pain for him/her to deal with whatever the fuck my ignorant ass throws at him/her when we do it." wtf? why? Like yeah sure, the first time I have sex with the love of my life I want to be in pain! That sounds like a great idea! LOL. No. When you finally meet that special someone you want to be as good as sex as you can be, so that you can get together and have a blast. I say fuck as much as you can/want, and when you meet the perfect somebody, you'll already have a great foundation to build on, sexually. Staying a virgin on purpose is super weird and pointless. Whoa I'm not having sex so I can get better so that I can show my S.O a good time. That's like saying I practiced with everyone else just for my SO. I will never hold or look at the person I love with that kind of power - that's not healthy. If you're not good after your 3rd time it's just that you're not trying to understand. Anyway most bodies work differently. I don't want to demean anyone I've had sex with with as if they're just objects. Like I don't hold sex as important at all and don't care for (and have never cared for) my virginity but I wouldn't want to call people practice pieces either. If I had sex with someone it's because I sure as hell wanted to. I didn't feel guilty the first time I had sex because I was super edgy back then. I also never thought I was innocent to begin with. |
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| While I don’t think it’s something people should throw away just for the sake of losing the virgin stamp, I think saving it forever solely for the sake of finding your destined soulmate is a bit too much of a fairy tale. If you happen to get a good chance sometime then you might as well take it but don’t force anything unnecessarily I lost mine a few years ago to an ex. Can’t say I feel like I’ve become a different person for that sake and I doubt many other people will either |
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| virginity is overrated tbh sooner or later you will lose it anyway |
| I saved it for someone special and I have no regrets. He's going to be my husband in October 2021. It beats opening your legs and sleeping with a random person or someone you're not romantically interested in. |
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| can't have sex before marriage against Afghanistan law |
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| I feel like its useless to save your virginity for "someone special", because if you shag someone who is your soulmate or shag a random person you met half an hour ago it just means the same thing: you've had sex for the first time. The time, place or person doesn't change anything really. Virginity is technically a social construct anyway. For me personally I want to wait until im of legal age, (16 in the UK) and until I feel like it. |
| personally not my thing but i can see why someone'd do it |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
FlowersInTheRain said: Railey2 said: Wait so how many different partners did you cheat on? Genuinely curious. Now I get why you think that cheating is just a part of life, lol Don't just go by my experience. As I've said before I've seen cheating all around me. It was even actively encouraged. My friends and I used to compete to get girl's numbers and sometimes things just went from one base to the next. I got cheated on first and then I became cold for a few years. I can think of three right now that I cheated on but there are more. I know I was cheated on by at least three different girls. Anyway, let's not make this thread all about me again. Its unfair to the OP and other forum users. I also find this discussion to be really interesting. If you asked me like 1 yr ago. I would be like fuck away, but since I'm actually in a fairly healthy and fulfilling relationship now, I kinda regret fucking around cause I don't feel like it was fair to her, because she is... less experience to say the least. Idk it depends on what kind of partner you want to end up with I guess. Hold others to the same standards you would hold yourself. |
 "The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
MySweetLucifer said: Seijatachiiii said: For me personally I want to wait until im of legal age, (16 in the UK) and until I feel like it. You know that "legal age" is as much of a social construct than "virginity", do you? An absolute Anti-Freedpm social construct. I am aware but getting to the legal age is just so that I am able to get contraception from the Doctors without a parent. That's it. I dont want kids until im like 30 so condoms, the pill, implant... give them all to me before I have any contact with a dude. At the end of the day, practically everything is a social construct. But something like Virginity that was basically made by religion has far to much control and importance when it isnt even real. In women, they say losing your virginity is breaking your hymen, but some women aren't born with a hymen. Sometimes if you have a hymen it can accidently break during activities, such as horse riding or doing the splits, if your hymen breaks by doing that does that mean you've lose your virginity? If it isnt about hymens, is it just having sex? Does oral or anal count? So if i've only had oral sex am I no longer a virgin. What if a women has sex with a women, can you lose your virginity that way? When its so unclear what losing your virginity is in the first place, it rules so much of our culture. Like who tf cares? Its literally religious garage that was made to stop women from enjoying and having sex. That's why Mary had to be a virgin, because a women who has had sex is not "pure" enough to give birth to someone as important as Jesus. |
| I'm just afraid of sex with strangers and haven't met anyone in person yet that wanted to fug I'll gladly do so if I meet someone I like that offers |
| I find that concept completely ridiculous and outdated. Sex should be seen as a normal activity rather than a sacred ritual. This view is especially damaging for women when many men have a misogynist idea that women should be virgin angels. |
  Never explain, Never retract, Never apologize Just get the thing done And let them howl |
| I'm a virgin because sex before marriage means you will go to H-E-DOUBLE-HOCKEY-STICK! And women should be quiet, so it says so in the Bible. |
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Seijatachiiii said: Disagree. If you mess around, you can regret it later on when you meet the right person. Again, different perspectives for different people. There is no correct answer. I feel like its useless to save your virginity for "someone special", because if you shag someone who is your soulmate or shag a random person you met half an hour ago it just means the same thing: you've had sex for the first time. The time, place or person doesn't change anything really. Virginity is technically a social construct anyway. I came close to having sex with a previous partner and now I'm glad I didn't because I would really regret it right now. I already regret kissing and holding hands. |
| Well of course, like what else could a sane and in respectability human do about this? I mean some would fall midway due to being deceived, but it's not something you would do unless you have a hideous mindset. Jesting people as virgins is undeniably fun as hell, but unsardonically claiming so as an insult is the most flat-brained thing I've ever come across in this pseudo-progressive modernity society. It's like criticizing people 20 years of age for not yet to perform sexual intercourse and thus those who have child amidst high school possesses some sort of superiority to worth deifying. (Of course for a 35 yo might be more convincing.) But I digress. I in all seriousness don't see why one shouldn't be proud of oneself for awaiting the right person. |
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Lorescothe said: Seijatachiiii said: I am aware but getting to the legal age is just so that I am able to get contraception from the Doctors without a parent. That's it. I dont want kids until im like 30 so condoms, the pill, implant... give them all to me before I have any contact with a dude. At the end of the day, practically everything is a social construct. But something like Virginity that was basically made by religion has far to much control and importance when it isnt even real. In women, they say losing your virginity is breaking your hymen, but some women aren't born with a hymen. Sometimes if you have a hymen it can accidently break during activities, such as horse riding or doing the splits, if your hymen breaks by doing that does that mean you've lose your virginity? If it isnt about hymens, is it just having sex? Does oral or anal count? So if i've only had oral sex am I no longer a virgin. What if a women has sex with a women, can you lose your virginity that way? When its so unclear what losing your virginity is in the first place, it rules so much of our culture. Like who tf cares? Its literally religious garage that was made to stop women from enjoying and having sex. That's why Mary had to be a virgin, because a women who has had sex is not "pure" enough to give birth to someone as important as Jesus. It's all based in biology rather than religion. I mean, hey, something like a hymen wouldn't exist without a reason. Men are possessive and like to paint their women in their colour so they can ensure faithfulness. Believe me, the guilt and unhappiness promiscuity brings a woman ain't worth it. Well, yes, the hymen does have a reason to exist... to keep bacteria out of the vagina. Nothing to do with virginity... its religion that has made it to do with virginity. That why you hymen doesn't actually "break" per say, when the hymen is penetrated it just stretches causing pain and bleeding. But it says there. Its is unusual for it to actually rip because it isnt meant to. Your hymen is meant to protect you from bacteria as I said so you need it. Its genetics though, as some women dont even have a hymen and some women have a larger or smaller hymen. Obviously if your hymen is smaller you wont bleed and if its bigger you will. Its nothing to do with virginity. Virginity is a social construct. |
| It's not like I've got a choice. Unfortunately, I've also fallen for a very strict Muslim girl and if things turn out well, I really will have no other choice. |
Seijatachiiii said: Lorescothe said: It's all based in biology rather than religion. I mean, hey, something like a hymen wouldn't exist without a reason. Men are possessive and like to paint their women in their colour so they can ensure faithfulness. Believe me, the guilt and unhappiness promiscuity brings a woman ain't worth it. Well, yes, the hymen does have a reason to exist... to keep bacteria out of the vagina. Nothing to do with virginity... its religion that has made it to do with virginity. That why you hymen doesn't actually "break" per say, when the hymen is penetrated it just stretches causing pain and bleeding. But it says there. Its is unusual for it to actually rip because it isnt meant to. Your hymen is meant to protect you from bacteria as I said so you need it. Its genetics though, as some women dont even have a hymen and some women have a larger or smaller hymen. Obviously if your hymen is smaller you wont bleed and if its bigger you will. Its nothing to do with virginity. Virginity is a social construct. You say "some woman don't even have a hymen", but no woman is born without a hymen. (If it does happen, it's certainly an extreme rarity):  (from https://the-eye.eu/public/Books/Medical/texts/Evaluation%20of%20the%20Sexually%20Abused%20Child%202nd%20ed%20-%20A.%20Heger%2C%20et%20al.%2C%20%28Oxford%2C%202000%29%20WW.pdf) As for hymens not "breaking", you're right, but they can be "torn". Obviously this can happen outside of sexual activity, but from a historical standpoint? Girls were made to live very cautious lives (not doing traditionally male activities that could risk tearing the hymen), and were also married off quite young. Combine this together, and the chance of pain and even bleeding during first sex is quite large. Even excluding the hymen, other tissue in the vagina is also stretched and can cause bleeding. In general, it's more sensitive and delicate the less it has been touched in any way. It's by no means an absolute measure of knowing whether a girl is a virgin, but it's the best nature has to offer. Anyway, regardless of the function or validity of the hymen, the point of me saying this isn't to win some internet argument and say "hah hah I'm right". All I ask is that you ask your heart about whether treating virginity as a meaningless thing will bring you happiness or not. In my heart, I know that independent of any cultural views or taboos, I'm only interested in settling down with virgins. |
| @Lorescothe The hymen is most likely vestigial. In the instances where it's fully sealed it's a dangerous medical condition if not broken because the menstral blood has no passage for release. Also that study is wrong. Although rare there are cases where absolutrly no hymen is present upon birth. "While at least two studies dating back to the 1980s and 1990s have reported hymens to be present in all newborn girls examined [1131 cases in one study and 134 in another], there are documented cases of girls born without a hymen altogether [16, 17]. In these cases, other genetic abnormalities, such as renal agenesis, were found. Large, cross-cultural, population-based studies that address the absence or presence of a hymen at birth have not been published. None of the existing studies provide or identify a clear function for the hymen [3, 4]." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6547601/#!po=26.1905 |
papsoshea said: Seiya said: Move to Europe. There is plenty there.Also, finding a guy who isn't manly is a very difficult thing where I live. I'm not even sure what to do. That's not really financially feasible for me, unfortunately. |
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| See I don't believe in saving yourself but I lost my virginity to my now fiance soooooo I guess I really did give it to my special someone LOL. Do whatever makes you happy though, but remember that virginity literally has nothing to do with your worth or self-respect. |
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