Chihayafuru
Catalano said: Lol now it's 6.99 damn bots It was 6.9 a couple of days ago, so it's raising, so unless we have now bots giving it 10's it's improving. |
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Heimur said: Catalano said: Lol now it's 6.99 damn bots It was 6.9 a couple of days ago, so it's raising, so unless we have now bots giving it 10's it's improving. I don't think the mods deleted the 1 score bots, it's the 10s. How can we trust mal if they don't even have a policy regarding these stuff. As if imdb doesn't have these problems. |
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| This is plain stupid that a good anime like Chihayafuru having this low score but who trust mal scores anyway lmao get a life retards that downvoting this |
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Kobayasan said: @mquinn2 Some people botted 10s on it to try to counter the 1 bots, realistically it should be 8.6x or 8.7 It was already 8,60 before it got downvoted, pretty sure by now the score wouldve slightly increased.. So yeah probably more like 8,7ish |
| Same thing (But Chihayafuru's point difference bigger than BNHA) happened for BNHA Season 3 too. I reported a lot of (About 50+) accounts. But admins or moderator never responded me. This is so sad. I hope they will fix Chihayafuru. |
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MrTacobell said: is this the biggest ratio of 1s in a anime? Attack on Titan season 3 part 2 was in a similar situation before the votes were deleted iirc |
| "What kind of fuckery is this?" - Amy Winehouse Why are people review-bombing this anime? For what reason? What do they gain from this? I've never seen an anime's ratings go from high 8's to low 7's before. MAL needs to implement a system similar to what Steam has done with regards to review-bombing. Never knew people did this on MAL. Sad. |
| What is going on with this show? i haven't started S3 yet but I can't believe it is a 7. |
Gar_Logan said: What is going on with this show? i haven't started S3 yet but I can't believe it is a 7. Got downvoted by bots, original score would be 8,60. |
| Ah, is that what happened? Good to know. Having a thread like this up is kinda nice, helps inform people on what is going on. Not sure who or why, but meh. The sooner people get detached from MAL scores the better. This might just hasten the process, who knows? Maybe MAL devs should drop all scores to 1.00 for April fools and permanently for all I care |
| I'm not a lolicon, you're just projecting your tendency to lewd 2D characters. If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate. Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too. My MAL Interview |
Show me evidence that Chihayafuru manga was banned and use reliable and credible source not some forum, Twitter or blog etc. -EDIT- Chihayafuru manga is still available and can be read in Chinese websites.   Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. It's banned in "China" by this site. If you use chinese IP, you can't find this manga. Like me: https://imgur.com/a/ueC32hA Other sites that banned Chihayafuru manga are bilibili and tencent. If you search "่ฑ็ๆ ็ผ“ on them,there is no result. https://ac.qq.com/Comic/searchList?search=%E8%8A%B1%E7%89%8C%E6%83%85%E7%BC%98 https://manga.bilibili.com/search?from=manga_homepage&keyword=%E8%8A%B1%E7%89%8C%E6%83%85%E7%BC%98 The anime has not been banned for now. |
sfgljadfdsDec 5, 2019 3:32 PM
BurningSpirit said: Ah, is that what happened? Good to know. Having a thread like this up is kinda nice, helps inform people on what is going on. Not sure who or why, but meh. The sooner people get detached from MAL scores the better. This might just hasten the process, who knows? Maybe MAL devs should drop all scores to 1.00 for April fools and permanently for all I care Hopefully, they kept this thread open, since 6 others on the subject were all closed two days ago for the same arbitrary and generic reason. Otherwise, it is immensely likely that it originated from a Vinland fan because the downvoting started when Chihayafuru>Vinland in scores. But people start creating crazy explanations about what I would call the "Chinese hypothesis"; a simple chronology permits to assert that these arguments are worthless. |
Bunille said: Its a troll creating literally hundreds of accounts just to lower the score for this anime. Its actually just 1 person. Who literally has no life and I wouldnt be surprised if he has Down Syndrome or some other illness.1.5k+ people rating 1... ouch. More than a quarter of people rating gave it a 1, what the hell happened? All the other seasons are more than above an 8 rating, so I checked the stats and oml. Over a thousand is crazy, though. |
Meusnier said: Thanks for the clarification. Noticing the score, I just had a minor shock and wondered if there's drastic production issues that occurred. Then immediately realised that the friend I always talked to about Chihayafuru didn't mention anything of the sort.BurningSpirit said: Ah, is that what happened? Good to know. Having a thread like this up is kinda nice, helps inform people on what is going on. Not sure who or why, but meh. The sooner people get detached from MAL scores the better. This might just hasten the process, who knows? Maybe MAL devs should drop all scores to 1.00 for April fools and permanently for all I care Hopefully, they kept this thread open, since 6 others on the subject were all closed two days ago for the same arbitrary and generic reason. Otherwise, it is immensely likely that it originated from a Vinland fan because the downvoting started when Chihayafuru>Vinland in scores. But people start creating crazy explanations about what I would call the "Chinese hypothesis"; a simple chronology permits to assert that these arguments are worthless. I'm not particularly concerned about the score. I've lost faith in MAL scores about 2 seconds after looking around basically. I primarily get recommendations from friends I know, but if I do have to use MAL scores I have long developed ways to interpret MAL scores my own way. For starters, if I needed to see if people thought the same way as me, I'd go to the stat tab and see what my MAL friends with similar tastes as me thought of it. I also vaguely know which genre tends to get overrated/underrated compared to what I tend to think of it. Multi-season shows that filter their audience through previous seasons yes like Chihayafuru will also tend to have their scores inflated, so I look at prefer interpreting the score of the first season for the most part. |
| I'm not a lolicon, you're just projecting your tendency to lewd 2D characters. If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate. Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too. My MAL Interview |
sfgljadfds said: Show me evidence that Chihayafuru manga was banned and use reliable and credible source not some forum, Twitter or blog etc. -EDIT- Chihayafuru manga is still available and can be read in Chinese websites. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. It's banned in "China" by this site. If you use chinese IP, you can't find this manga. Like me: https://imgur.com/a/ueC32hA Other sites that banned Chihayafuru manga are bilibili and tencent. If you search "่ฑ็ๆ ็ผ“ on them,there is no result. https://ac.qq.com/Comic/searchList?search=%E8%8A%B1%E7%89%8C%E6%83%85%E7%BC%98 https://manga.bilibili.com/search?from=manga_homepage&keyword=%E8%8A%B1%E7%89%8C%E6%83%85%E7%BC%98 The anime has not been banned for now. sfgljadfds said: Show me evidence that Chihayafuru manga was banned and use reliable and credible source not some forum, Twitter or blog etc. -EDIT- Chihayafuru manga is still available and can be read in Chinese websites. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. It's banned in "China" by this site. If you use chinese IP, you can't find this manga. Like me: https://imgur.com/a/ueC32hA Other sites that banned Chihayafuru manga are bilibili and tencent. If you search "่ฑ็ๆ ็ผ“ on them,there is no result. https://ac.qq.com/Comic/searchList?search=%E8%8A%B1%E7%89%8C%E6%83%85%E7%BC%98 https://manga.bilibili.com/search?from=manga_homepage&keyword=%E8%8A%B1%E7%89%8C%E6%83%85%E7%BC%98 The anime has not been banned for now. LOL! Another fresh and new duplicate accounts created just to spread "its Chinese fault" propaganda. https://myanimelist.net/profile/sfgljadfds Chihayafuru manga was not ban China, the reason you can't find them in those websites is because they are never there to begin with. Even if its true Chihayafuru manga was ban, that still doesn't prove they are the one down voting especially when you consider there is no down vote of Chihayafuru anime. |
Papa_ScorchDec 5, 2019 8:41 PM
Well the manga got hit too in both direction  Some vinland saga trolls  Some fans 10/10 https://myanimelist.net/profile/nijono7449 https://myanimelist.net/profile/bokov95858 And i bet this shitshow goes on many other titles maybe with 2/9 scores. Never trust MAL scores, ever. |
Thanks for sharing this.  This settle it then. It's Vinland Saga fan disguise as Chinese so that he can avoid Vinland Saga getting the backlash. There's no reason for him to give Vinland Saga 10/10 if he's a Chinese want to tarnish the author's reputation. As others has stated, the down vote started before the Tweet. |
| I feel sad that this happened to chihayafuru. Its such a amazing series. There are still like 1500 accounts that rated this show a 1/10, I honestly don't get this at all dont we all love anime. These guys are ruining the integrity of the system. Just why. |
Mark_DingemanseDec 6, 2019 7:54 AM
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| We can always just adjust the score removing the 1's ~ Real score now would be around 9,17 Aka top of the season =) Btw, I'm fully following the thread so I don't know what's the reason not to ban obviously fake acc that are harming one of the websites purposes, that being it's database. Edit: I'm not fully following the thread* (that's what i meant to say) |
HarusDec 6, 2019 11:50 AM
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Harus said: We can always just adjust the score removing the 1's ~ Real score now would be around 9,17 Aka top of the season =) Btw, I'm fully following the thread so I don't know what's the reason not to ban obviously fake acc that are harming one of the websites purposes, that being it's database. Oh the answers very simple. "Its too much work." |
Fionavar said: Harus said: We can always just adjust the score removing the 1's ~ Real score now would be around 9,17 Aka top of the season =) Btw, I'm fully following the thread so I don't know what's the reason not to ban obviously fake acc that are harming one of the websites purposes, that being it's database. Oh the answers very simple. "Its too much work." In other words, they are not enough to delete manually the accounts, and prefer to work on a permanent solution that is supposed to be at work since Monday (I have no idea how much time it will take them to finally remove the false accounts...). See the link to the answers of Luna and Kineta in the first post of this thread for more precise information here. |
Meusnier said: In other words, they are not enough to delete manually the accounts, and prefer to work on a permanent solution that is supposed to be at work since Monday (I have no idea how much time it will take them to finally remove the false accounts...). See the link to the answers of Luna and Kineta in the first post of this thread for more precise information here. Oh of course they gave us a long excuse on why they think waiting for a permanent solution is better. However they also could just hire more mods and give them the permission to delete those accounts. Theres plenty of temporary solutions they could use instead of just waiting until someone else fixes shit for them. |
| Hmm I see Just read the Luna's and Kineta's posts I kinda agree with the idea of using this case to improve the 'anit troll' overall security. Deleting 1500 ish accs would be easier but probably wouldn't fix the source of the problem and it would be just a matter of time until something similar happen again. In any case at some point they will have to delete the fake accs, unless they change how the score system works. All we can do is wait for updates. |
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| Well I'm relieved to see this is a trolling problem. I was shocked that this show had a 7.04... |
Fionavar said: Meusnier said: In other words, they are not enough to delete manually the accounts, and prefer to work on a permanent solution that is supposed to be at work since Monday (I have no idea how much time it will take them to finally remove the false accounts...). See the link to the answers of Luna and Kineta in the first post of this thread for more precise information here. Oh of course they gave us a long excuse on why they think waiting for a permanent solution is better. However they also could just hire more mods and give them the permission to delete those accounts. Theres plenty of temporary solutions they could use instead of just waiting until someone else fixes shit for them. I cannot say that I am very satisfied with this solution because the "attack" only came from a few people who gave up at a point, so one could delete these 1500 accounts or so in a relatively short time normally. They should have done it because this is very likely the most extreme case in MAL history and we can suspect that this is damaging the series (modulo the 200 IQ move claimed by some, this hypothesis seems more likely to me). So it should be possible to delete them and to do something against score trolls in the future too. Anyway, just hope that something will be done before the second part of S3 (after the airing period would not be tolerable, but I guess that problems should be resolved in a few weeks; hopefully before the black hole of New Year's Eve period). |
Meusnier said: Fionavar said: Oh of course they gave us a long excuse on why they think waiting for a permanent solution is better. However they also could just hire more mods and give them the permission to delete those accounts. Theres plenty of temporary solutions they could use instead of just waiting until someone else fixes shit for them. I cannot say that I am very satisfied with this solution because the "attack" only came from a few people who gave up at a point, so one could delete these 1500 accounts or so in a relatively short time normally. They should have done it because this is very likely the most extreme case in MAL history and we can suspect that this is damaging the series (modulo the 200 IQ move claimed by some, this hypothesis seems more likely to me). So it should be possible to delete them and to do something against score trolls in the future too. Anyway, just hope that something will be done before the second part of S3 (after the airing period would not be tolerable, but I guess that problems should be resolved in a few weeks; hopefully before the black hole of New Year's Eve period). My biggest worry is that they will fix the score on season 3 but completly forget about the manga, which also got downvoted pretty badly. |
Fionavar said: That's definitely not going to happen. The whole reason they haven't deleted accounts is because they're aiming to implement an automatic site-wide solution instead. It would affect every anime and manga entry on the whole website whenever it gets implementedMeusnier said: I cannot say that I am very satisfied with this solution because the "attack" only came from a few people who gave up at a point, so one could delete these 1500 accounts or so in a relatively short time normally. They should have done it because this is very likely the most extreme case in MAL history and we can suspect that this is damaging the series (modulo the 200 IQ move claimed by some, this hypothesis seems more likely to me). So it should be possible to delete them and to do something against score trolls in the future too. Anyway, just hope that something will be done before the second part of S3 (after the airing period would not be tolerable, but I guess that problems should be resolved in a few weeks; hopefully before the black hole of New Year's Eve period). My biggest worry is that they will fix the score on season 3 but completly forget about the manga, which also got downvoted pretty badly. As a side note, I think LotGH might challenge FMA:B for the #1 spot on MAL again if/when this gets fixed. Not sure if it'll get past but it'll be at worst 2nd for sure |
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HaXXspetten said: Fionavar said: That's definitely not going to happen. The whole reason they haven't deleted accounts is because they're aiming to implement an automatic site-wide solution instead. It would affect every anime and manga entry on the whole website whenever it gets implementedMy biggest worry is that they will fix the score on season 3 but completly forget about the manga, which also got downvoted pretty badly. As a side note, I think LotGH might challenge FMA:B for the #1 spot on MAL again if/when this gets fixed. Not sure if it'll get past but it'll be at worst 2nd for sure I have the feeling that LotGH will always be handicapped by its small fanbase. Even if it manages to temporarily surpass FMAB (or even S;G/HxH) after the illegitimate accounts are deleted, there's probably going to be some fanboys with legitimate accounts (as in, not bots nor alts, just regular users) who will be butthurt and downvote it. And I don't think there's anything MAL can do against that since no rule prevents a user from giving a low score to a series for petty reasons. |
| This anime is still getting bot treatment? Damn. I'm still waiting for a legit proof that VS fans did it. |
NotFred said: This anime is still getting bot treatment? Damn. I'm still waiting for a legit proof that VS fans did it. They literally created bots upvoting VS, and downvoting Chihayafuru what more proof do you need lol? |
Fionavar said: NotFred said: This anime is still getting bot treatment? Damn. I'm still waiting for a legit proof that VS fans did it. They literally created bots upvoting VS, and downvoting Chihayafuru what more proof do you need lol? That's a pretty weak proof. Don't underestimate the trolls these days. That can be anyone who is just bored and wants to create shit between fandoms. That's the internet for you. Im not saying that VS fanboys are not guilty, just want to point out that it can be anyone. Vs fanboys may be the mine suspects, but it can be anyone who just wants to troll, without any different motive. |
NotFred said: Fionavar said: They literally created bots upvoting VS, and downvoting Chihayafuru what more proof do you need lol? That's a pretty weak proof. Don't underestimate the trolls these days. That can be anyone who is just bored and wants to create shit between fandoms. That's the internet for you. Im not saying that VS fanboys are not guilty, just want to point out that it can be anyone. Vs fanboys may be the mine suspects, but it can be anyone who just wants to troll, without any different motive. Yeah im sorry but thats very very unlikely, again no proof but they downvoted Chihayafuru as soon as it overtook VS. If they didnt care about VS why didnt they downvote it earlier already? Im sorry but that is most certainly not a councidence |
Fionavar said: NotFred said: That's a pretty weak proof. Don't underestimate the trolls these days. That can be anyone who is just bored and wants to create shit between fandoms. That's the internet for you. Im not saying that VS fanboys are not guilty, just want to point out that it can be anyone. Vs fanboys may be the mine suspects, but it can be anyone who just wants to troll, without any different motive. Yeah im sorry but thats very very unlikely, again no proof but they downvoted Chihayafuru as soon as it overtook VS. If they didnt care about VS why didnt they downvote it earlier already? Im sorry but that is most certainly not a councidence Good point, but from what I remember it was number 1 for atleast 2 days. Then it got botted by trolls. Of course I may be wrong. Also why is Chihafayuri getting botted? If VS fanboys wanted the first place, then they could just botted it to 8.20, then the 1st place would be safe until the anime ends. That's why I believe that it's just for trolling isntead of securing the 1st place. As I said, I could be wrong. |
NotFredDec 9, 2019 4:49 PM
NotFred said: Fionavar said: Yeah im sorry but thats very very unlikely, again no proof but they downvoted Chihayafuru as soon as it overtook VS. If they didnt care about VS why didnt they downvote it earlier already? Im sorry but that is most certainly not a councidence Good point, but from what I remember why it was number 1 for atleast 2 days. Then it got botted by trolls. Of course I may be wrong. Also why I Chihafayuri getting botted? If VS fanboys wanted the first place, then they could just botted it to 8.20, then the 1st place would be safe until the anime ends. That's why I believe that it's just for trolling isntead of securing the 1st place. As I said, I could be wrong. Although the VS hypothesis is quite likely (even if it was first during two days, it just shows that downvoters did not decide immediately to "take action"), the reason why they continued to downvote may be harder to explain. My own hypothesis is that Chihayafuru fans (and also people who care about bot issues) started to create threads to report the issue and to get really irritated by the lack of action from admins/mods. Seeing this "success", the haters found it funny to continue until the show dropped below 7. Arsonists enjoy to see the firemen at work; bigger the fire the better. Otherwise, I said "they", but the downvoting seems to be just from a few users, and this is why no one should blame VS fans for this. By the way, it has been a week since they announced to work on solution; is this taking really so much time to automatically delete bots? Depends on the number of people working on it though. |
Meusnier said: NotFred said: Good point, but from what I remember why it was number 1 for atleast 2 days. Then it got botted by trolls. Of course I may be wrong. Also why I Chihafayuri getting botted? If VS fanboys wanted the first place, then they could just botted it to 8.20, then the 1st place would be safe until the anime ends. That's why I believe that it's just for trolling isntead of securing the 1st place. As I said, I could be wrong. Although the VS hypothesis is quite likely (even if it was first during two days, it just shows that downvoters did not decide immediately to "take action"), the reason why they continued to downvote may be harder to explain. My own hypothesis is that Chihayafuru fans (and also people who care about bot issues) started to create threads to report the issue and to get really irritated by the lack of action from admins/mods. Seeing this "success", the haters found it funny to continue until the show dropped below 7. Arsonists enjoy to see the firemen at work; bigger the fire the better. Otherwise, I said "they", but the downvoting seems to be just from a few users, and this is why no one should blame VS fans for this. By the way, it has been a week since they announced to work on solution; is this taking really so much time to automatically delete bots? Depends on the number of people working on it though. Couldn't agree more. The attention it gotten added fuel to the fire. Also they already blocked VPN's which is something. We better watch and see. |
| Is this gonna get fixed anytime soon? I don't even know why people would score bomb this show. |
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| I've been ignoring this for weeks, but seeing that it doesn't get any resolve is PISSING ME OFF. A few friends already came to me to ask if the "quality of this season had dropped". Madhouse is doing a stunning work and yet this is what happens. Seriously. This is so aggravating. |
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HaXXspetten said: Fionavar said: That's definitely not going to happen. The whole reason they haven't deleted accounts is because they're aiming to implement an automatic site-wide solution instead. It would affect every anime and manga entry on the whole website whenever it gets implementedMy biggest worry is that they will fix the score on season 3 but completly forget about the manga, which also got downvoted pretty badly. As a side note, I think LotGH might challenge FMA:B for the #1 spot on MAL again if/when this gets fixed. Not sure if it'll get past but it'll be at worst 2nd for sure I'm pretty sure most seasons of Gintama will surpass all of the aforementioned top series |
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Byniavo said: LotGH has even more percentage downvotes than any Gintama entry so no they wouldn't get past that, but yes they will also be high up there. The 2015 Gintama season will probably be third on the site at worst from what I can see comparing their stats pagesHaXXspetten said: That's definitely not going to happen. The whole reason they haven't deleted accounts is because they're aiming to implement an automatic site-wide solution instead. It would affect every anime and manga entry on the whole website whenever it gets implemented As a side note, I think LotGH might challenge FMA:B for the #1 spot on MAL again if/when this gets fixed. Not sure if it'll get past but it'll be at worst 2nd for sure I'm pretty sure most seasons of Gintama will surpass all of the aforementioned top series |
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| IT'S STILL HERE! WTF MAL?! |
Read Toriko! |
| As a Vinland fan, these people are shaming the Vinland community! I'm embarrassed to know they even voted Vinland a 10. Total and completely utter disrespect to both Makoto Yukimura and Yuki Suetsugu! |
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