Anime Industry is Over Saturated with trash now days

SaintMerakle said:

Seems like I fundamentally misunderstood you and what you were asking for my bad forget all that I said doesn't relate to you yet

moshiyare said:
That's the same everywhere, just like how some companies end up publishing good books and terrible ones, or producing brilliant movies and bad ones (but this all a matter of one's tastes). It doesn't take much of an effort to find an interesting anime to watch unless you've literally watched everything (but I'm assuming you haven't). There's way more stuff than 'light novel adaptations, 'isekai', and 'ecchi' out there. Watch those! If you're sick of anime, why don't you try Chinese donghua? Keep in mind that you will also find some horrible adaptations among some gems but at least you can expand your 'library'.

fruits_punch95 said:
hurrrrr durrrrr not everything pleases my basic ass taste so I dont even bother checking anything out because I assume is bad and if I ever do I make full assumptions based on 4 episodes or less so I am going to post my generic opinion as if it was the most ground-breaking hot take this website has ever seen.


Dude, most of you favorites are basic as fuck, you are the last person I will read this kind of shit from without laughing.

EcchiGodMamster said:
theres NO WAY someone whos been on MAL since 2010 doesn't know this thread is made every year

Renkini said:



Or more precisely,

every season, every month, every week, or worst, everyday maybe?

To OP:
C'mon, let it rest. We accept your taste is superior and we know you're running out of interest in anime. Find new hobbies and let us enjoy what we enjoy.

Or try rewatching your favorite shows 831475296 times and make it a personal achievement. It works too.

Zeroflamez said:

Lol props for the Carl Johnson meme. But my post was never about me saying I have superior tastes and I'm completely fine with whatever people choose to watch. I have other hobbies so I'm good. I just think it's a waste to have so many Anime each season and so many of them being so damn similar to one another. On top of that the light novel medium is extremely exhausted at this point. Of course when the industry is pumping out a lot of the same genres it's gonna be tiring to have to dig for something that suits your interests and that's what people in this thread don't seem to understand..

Zeroflamez said:



It's not so much that they are doing bad financially but it's their population is shrinking and their issues with exporting that is hurting them. I said the Anime as a whole did pretty good, not that Rising specifically did good. It had 3 seasons and 2 OVA's. Several Video games, and it's getting a Stage Play. It was successful. To say it wasn't cause Rise wasn't received well is not fair. The reason why Hinomaru Sumo didn't do too well with its Anime is because I doubt many Japanese youth really find Sumo exciting, it's really really niche, but they at least tried to produce something different and I respect them for that. Even if a lot of these Martial Arts Manga don't have big hit sales, a fair bit of them were consistent enough to finish their publications without getting axed. That at least says something.
You also seem to be forgetting skipping over my point about Megalo Box's success. That was an original Anime as well as a sports/fighting Anime, even if it is spiritually Ashita No Joe. That alone proves these kind of Anime's can do well if done right and the content is interesting enough.

Zeroflamez said:
the industry is pumping out a lot of the same genres

Zeroflamez said:

Just because I have a preference of certain shows does not mean I'm overlooking other shows in genres I'm not familiar with because it doesn't have the types of things I like in shows I normally watch. And it certainly doesn't mean I need to watch more combinations of genres that are foreign to me to "broaden" my horizons. I could care less if the show is top rated in its genre if it doesn't interest me I'm not watching it, and that's what you don't seem to understand. And what I mean by interest me, is the plot and theme doesn't interest me, not that I'm overlooking it because it doesn't have a mix of genres I generally watch.


That makes absolutely zero sense, you rate it as an 8 yet you consider it trash? And because of MY response? you're actually surprised I responded the way I did to your original post implying that I also like trash because I like Demon Slayer? your original post was clearly a shot at me and I responded accordingly and now you're going Q_Q your opinion is invalid? Time to grow up and realize you're not always going to get the response you want especially when you're opening statement is basically saying their opinion is invalid because they like a Shounen that happened to do really well this year.

Zerity said:


:feelsgoodman: just the kind of response I love getting out of people. but in all seriousness, a show being trash is subjective to each person, u might think cheat magician is trash (which it is) but someone else might think that every year or every few seasons we get a shit show like demon slayer, thats gets super popular and well liked and has the same reaction u do. (ik people like this) what im saying is if u cant handle a show u like being compared to something like cheat magician than u honestly dont have a the right to make a post like this.

-Frost- said:
Why do you even care, xd? There are, like what, thousands if not hundreds of thousands of anime in existence; just watch those lol. You don’t have to subject yourself to those supposed “shitty LN adaptations” if you don’t want to; just know, that they wouldn’t be so successful if there wasn’t an audience for them.

EcchiGodMamster said:



i don't remember a period when anime wasn't doing this

thats why i don't understand why you're choosing NOW to complain when you've been here for almost 10 years

also, as stated, you can't really be surprised if someone people aren't taking a thread thats made 20x a year seriously

especially with a baity title saying most anime is trash, well no matter what anyones opinion is, you're going to get people assuming your taste must be superior or something if you're saying shit like that lol

ComboSmooth said:
but anime has always been slice of life and shonen action..... what are you even complaining about

TolkienFan365 said:



So again their economy isn't doing so hot which is my point. It's just seen a few surges in some areas. OVA's again are pretty restricted to the JP market and that market is a shrinking one. Yes anime as a whole is doing good industry wide. You made this thread though on the basis the current practices are bad and that's partially on the assumption creators would be doing better if they tried something else. Well the current industry is seeing more profits and growth than ever before but again there is still a lot of risk in making an anime. So again it makes sense to try and capitalize on things are doing well or are profitable.

As for Megalo Box I was honestly surprised it got a second season. I actually would like to know why. If it was TV ratings, merch or maybe even international support. It's anime BD sold horribly only 364 sales. I don't think the manga did that well. Maybe streaming IDK that's harder to determine. From other rankings it didn't seem like the Japanese audience was that interested. Still I wouldn't say it was that much of a success nor really a good indicator that said genre is actually worth taking a risk on. There isn't really any major recent series like that which have achieved mainstream success and it's not like they aren't being made. Plus again I don't really see how that genre would actually bring that much new stuff. Hajime no Ippo as much as I enjoy it isn't really that original. You can find all the same tropes in really any other common sports anime/manga. Megalo Box kinda shallow though had some good moments and nice style. It's still playing to common things that anime already does a lot of.

Again I just feel like your frustrated that certain aspects that you like aren't being cater to more honestly. Not that I don't understand but again I just don't really see where the demand is going to come from. This whole thread is just more like saying what it would be ideal for you or people like you and I can say the same but I got to be realistic in what the current industry is capable of.

Water-sama said:


I wouldn't be able to take someone serious if they said Sword Art Online Season 1 was good. I'd immediately assume that they haven't seen much Anime. Also, Honestly, I'd very much think that they are mentally inferior. Or, just a Normie.

Zeroflamez said:

You wish your slice of life had the production values of Demon Slayer. Stay mad.

Shinjiitsu said:


To be fair, sword art online season 1 was pretty good to be honest, and i've seen my fair share of anime. I guess i'm being a bit biased since it was one of the first "real anime" i got into. What i mean by real anime is that, it's not shows like pokemon or yugioh that you watched when you were growing up.

Zeroflamez said:
How is that rich? he said himself he wasn't sure of their economic state in the present. I did a bit of light research, I said politely that he was wrong. He did more in depth research and proposed I very well am I wrong. I did more in depth research and it turns out I am wrong on somethings. I am completely fine with being wrong if I'm being told in a respectable and manner. What I'm not fine with is when people like you feel the need to belittle others and call them brainlets just because they may not be as informed about something as you are.

Zeroflamez said:
Merchandise still does sell. Gundam Model Kits still are selling well. Anime figures are still being produced and selling. So you're not right about that. I collect Anime figures specifically. If anything the Merch side of Anime feels like it has had growth this decade. Anime merchandise's market is not just Japan. It's global now.

Water-sama said:
@Daniel_Naumov

For Starters, Sword Art Online is boring as hell. Very Predictable, and Makes no Sense. I only watched Season 1. Anytime Kirito wasn't dramatically overpowering an enemy, Yui-chan would fight for him, or his fight would be weak, fast, and boring as hell.

Zeroflamez said:
Even if that is the case. Top studios can still produce different kinds of stuff and they are the only ones that normally do.

Yudina said:
I'm fine with belittling you though. Like you've literally just here admitted to doing light research, all of which was wrong by the way, and then come back to debate with him without even confirming whether or not he was right. Like for someone who has strong opinions on anime and Japan's capacity to fund the industry, you'd think you'd know better about whether Japan was doing well economically but that's too big of an ask these days it seems.

Wow, you buy merchandise. I didn't know you accounted for the vast majority of merchandise sales worldwide and thus you can definitively anecdotally prove that merchandise is still alive.

You do know that merchandising of real products has dramatically declined right? Like when you made these assertions, did you read the industry reports or do you make up everything from what you see at a convention or an online stream of Comiket? With respect to merchandising the focus is shift from physical to digital good i.e. the gaming space/online content. Many of the increases in real product merchandising has more to do with women's products than the figurines or mecha kits you're referring to. See the 2018 industry report:



So when you say it "feels" like it's grown this decade, you really should say it's fallen by 11.5%. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And by the way, merchandising wasn't even the point. It was a combination of lower merchandise sales and, more importantly, a lot of the old classical directors no longer directing as many titles and the social atmosphere that has lowered the appeal of mecha for a modern/contemporary audience.

With respect to mecha, and any genre that loses relevance by the way, you're essentially like those people who complain about why there isn't any cyberpunk anymore, when those people have zero understanding of the social/historical/aesthetic reasons why cyberpunk even came to prominence.

zagzee said:
Then just watch stuff from those studios. The rest will continue to adjust for the domestic market. Are you advocating for change or something?

Krav40 said:
Well, no one is forcing you to watch any of these "shitty" seasonal shows. They're also tons of classic anime that you've probably haven't seen.

Zerity said:
@Zeroflamez I didnt say cause u liked demon slayer ur opinion is invalid i said the way u responded to me made ur opinion invalid. im not attacking ur taste, shounen is one of my fav generes too, im saying that ur post stating, we get shit every season, yet when i called demon slayer out u got upset than made anything u would of said to me be void. like i said before im not attacking ur fav genre im attacking on the way u handled it.

also cause u called out shows/genres other people liked but cant handle people attacking ur own just make ur opinions even less valid.

Zerity said:
@Zeroflamez makes sense, but this post has been made so many other times that were all tired of it.

Water-sama said:
@Daniel_Naumov

"This kind of argument is absolutely... nonsensical if you do not specify"
Okay, I will specify why Sword Art Online is bad and boring.

Everything was way too predictable. Ep 1, Lemme guess, you won't be able to log out. Alright, That's a freebie. Girl beside water, looks pretty sad, yep. She's suicidal. A fight worth watch watching? Never. People are being "assassinated" in non-pvp zones. Girl has her back facing towards the window that's open but somehow, she's trying to not get assassinated. Took them amazingly too long to figure that out. Did the creator think that was clever or smart? Smh, cause it wasn't. At all.

Lack of Threat. Everything was already boring but the Lack of Threat in Sword Art Online was unbearable. When you are always more powerful than your enemies, or have an AI fight for you. Or you fights last a few slashes and then end. Yeah, that's not a very engaging experience. Nothing about the story of a boy who seemingly doesn't have to put in any REAL effort makes me want to watch it more. Spongebob has more action than this show, and it's more engaging.

We have Asuna crying over a dead video game character. Lol, was that some attempt at emotion? Making the viewer try to feel bad for her or something? Alright. Kirito uses the Game Account that was conveniently left open by some GM/moderator guy. Moderators have the ability to edit the game...

-If you use the NerveGear Set to get into the game
-How do you use a different game account, INSIDE OF THE GAME, Without moving to another NerveGear
-How do you Login into the Game again, from Inside of the Game. Without what it takes to login....
-How does that GM Account, edit a part of the Game. While the game is running.
-How is a boy who never helped create this video game, able to edit the source code in a few seconds, and recompile it, while its running.
-He takes the AI and turns it into an Item and programmed it to do what he wants it to do. An item in a game is just code. An AI is programmed with Code to do certain things.
-You had the power to Edit part of the Game itself but you couldn't log anyone out. Which was the whole point of your struggle. TO GET OUT.

Episode 14. The Fight with the Creator.
-How does Kirito come back to life after his health bar depleted
-If you die in the game, your brain gets fried.
-Kirito dies in-game and comes back inside of the game seconds after dying. Even though, creator killed him. (Without taking fatal damage)
-Even though creator was just beating you, you come back to life face to face with creator-san, looking badass for a few seconds. Somehow you step straight forward and stab him in the chest after all of your other attacks did NOTHING to hurt him.
-Creator didn't try to block, or avoid the attack. He just sat there, then Smiled.

Made no sense...

"Great, you do not know then what a grand thing Sword Art Online is as a whole. Maybe it actually stopped being "boring" after the first season. You never found out."

So what? I wont and I don't care.... Why would I continue to see something if the beginning was garbage to me? You actually think that I'd waste more time. It's almost like you're mad because I think its boring but wont waste even more Hours to see the POSSIBLE good parts.

Water-sama said:
Why would I continue to see something if the beginning was garbage to me? You actually think that I'd waste more time. It's almost like you're mad because I think its boring but wont waste even more Hours to see the POSSIBLE good parts.

Psajdak said:
I still can't quite how I was able to even endure through the fist 13 episodes of the first season.

It is impossible for me to see SAO as anything else besides garbage in the worst possible way, without redeeming qualities whatsoever, and I am one of the people with the lowest standards when it comes to anime that I know.

Preachee said:
My fucking lord, look at this awfully, painfully, ideally hazardous thread, filling itself with dumb prejudices, foolish foul words and self-assertions. Thank you OP @Zeroflamez for baiting everyone into this madness of vicious cycle and revealing the true face of these blokes. What a fucking spectacle.

Psajdak said:

It is impossible for me to see SAO as anything else besides garbage in the worst possible way, without redeeming qualities whatsoever, and I am one of the people with the lowest standards when it comes to anime that I know.