| I came across this issue in another thread so I wanted to post about it here to tell these "People" that it does not matter if you watch the anime Subbed or Dubbed you are still watching that anime. I watch mostly dubbed since I watch most of the anime I watch on funimation and if they have a simuldub I will watch it over watching the subbed version. It's called a personal preference. What these people have said just makes me angry what kind of person thinks this way. "People" is in quotes to avoid putting an expletive or an insult in the thread title |
kingdommoutenfanNov 28, 2019 7:28 PM
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KairoSeijuro said: No, you mean the kind of person with the incorrect sense of trying to declare one better than the other rather than understanding that it's up to personal preference. :Pdrstonefan said: What these people have said just makes me angry what kind of person thinks this way. the kind of person with the Correct Opinion that subs are better :D |
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| Lol I can't believe anyone would say something that stupid...why should the language track matter!? |
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Chiibi said: Lol I can't believe anyone would say something that stupid...why should the language track matter!? I didn't think someone would say that either but I saw a couple on the the Dubbed vs Subbed thread it's so very moronic to think that way. |
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| Being someone who always has subtitles on whether it's a japanese or english dub, I have to say i definitely prefer the sound of japanese voices over english voices. I can't seem to get used to an english voice, so for that reason I only listen to japanese voice with english subtitles. |
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| You're still watching anime, just not listening to one. :P |
XquisiteWig said: Well to be fair I wouldn't be listening to one either way. :PYou're still watching anime, just not listening to one. :P |
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| Any idiot that says such a dumb statement is being an elitist troll imo. I think most anime fans would agree that most dubs aren't up to the same high standard as there Japanese counterparts, and the pool of dub voice actors is very small, so you hear the same VA in show after show. Saying that watching a dubbed version of a show is the same as not watching the show at all, or that this persons opinion is worthless because they only saw the dubbed version, is a retarded statement to make, which leads me to deduce that it's an elitist troll shit-posting to get reactions (which we just have, doh). If you are happy with the dubbed voice acting for a show then that's all that matters. I prefer to watch dubs if possible so I don't have to read subtitles as it allows me to fill my boots up on the visual aspects of the show I'm watching, as anime is primarily a visual medium. So for me taking time up reading subtitles detracts from the watching experience, but that is just my subjective opinion. I know that some people can't stand dubs, and that's cool. The main argument I hear is that the english dub industry is too small (mainly funimation for airing shows), so you hear the same voices frequently. I personally enjoy listening to a large number of the female dub voice actresses (Cherami Leigh, Monica Rial, Jad Saxton, Colleen Clinkenbeard, Britney Karbowski...), so it's actually a positive attributing factor to my watching experience, not a negative one. I remembered one scenario where dubbed anime is often better, and that's for shows like Azur Lane & Infinite Stratos, where you have girls from different regions, particularly European countries. The dub VA are able to mimic the different accents better than their Japanese counterparts, whose various accented Japanese accents I'm not able to differentiate between (I don't know what Japanese with a German or French inflection should sound like, I've heard French with a Scottish accent though, lol). So that's one area where dub VA are better than the originals. |
23feanorNov 30, 2019 11:32 AM
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| When you watch dubbed anime, you are watching DUBBED ANIME. When you are watching subbed anime, you are watching SUBBED ANIME. When you are watching raw anime, you are watching ANIME. |
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| why are you putting people in quotation marks is viewing dubs as inferior to subs suddenly a sign of sub-humanity |
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23feanor said: Any idiot that says such a dumb statement is being an elitist troll imo. I think most anime fans would agree that most dubs aren't up to the same high standard as their Japanese counterparts, and the pool of dub voice actors is very small, so you hear the same VA in show after show. Saying that watching a dubbed version of a show is the same not watching the show, or that this persons opinion is worthless, is a retarded statement to make, which leads me to deduce that it's an elitist troll shit-posting to get reactions. If you are happy with the dubbed voice acting for a show then that's all that matters. I prefer to watch dubs if possible so I don't have to read subtitles as it allows me to fill my boots up on the visual aspects of the show I'm watching, as anime is primarily a visual medium. So for me taking time up reading subtitles detracts from the watching experience, but that is just my subjective opinion. I know that some people can't stand dubs, and that's cool. The main argument I hear is that the english dub industry is too small (mainly funimation for airing shows), so you hear the same voices frequently. personally like a lot of the female dub voices (Cherami Leigh, Monica Rial, Jad Saxton, Colleen Clinkenbeard, Britney Karbowski...), so it's actually a positive attributing factor for my watching experience, not a negative one. Favorite reply you said it in the best possible way.^^^^^^ |
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Manaban said: why are you putting people in quotation marks is viewing dubs as inferior to subs suddenly a sign of sub-humanity I put them in quotation marks to not say morons in the thread title |
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drstonefan said: Manaban said: why are you putting people in quotation marks is viewing dubs as inferior to subs suddenly a sign of sub-humanity I put them in quotation marks to not say morons in the thread title Do it puny nerd Don't hold back, go all out offend the world with your use of the word "moron" |
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Manaban said: Do it puny nerd Don't hold back, go all out offend the world with your use of the word "moron" ok then well I did not want to put an insult in the thread title. |
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drstonefan said: Manaban said: Do it puny nerd Don't hold back, go all out offend the world with your use of the word "moron" ok then well I did not want to put an insult in the thread title. DO IT SMALL DWEEB PUT MORON IN THREAD TITLE I COMMAND THEE |
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| Bro , just ignore them weebs lol, its no use of arguing with fools, sad thing is you can 't make them understand. Ever. They are on the mercy of subtitles, tell them to watch raw XD |
ccbestgirl1411Nov 28, 2019 6:58 PM
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| There are anime dubs where the changes in translation conveys a different meaning or emotion than was originally intended by its creators. Happens often in comedies since Japanese humor doesn't translate well to English. If I remember correctly, Funimation's dub of Kobayashi's Dragon Maid pushed SJW bullshit. Another of their dubs did the same, but I can't remember which. Those are rare instances, but I'd say the change is significant enough to ignore those adaptations entirely, so I can understand to a certain extent. Watching primarily dubs also limits the amount of anime one is open to. If they're in the beginner to average level, then it wouldn't bother most, though. In the end, it boils down to personal preference as you said. There's really no reason to let such thoughts get to you if you enjoy it that way. |
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| I always prefer mine subbed and would never watch dubbed anime (that's a thing of my childhood, when access to anime hadn't always been as easy as it is today), but I honestly don't mind people who watch dubs or prefer dubs. Personal preference. it's weird to say that one hasn't 'truly' watched anime if they didn't watch it in Japanese... that's just stupid. What about people who want to enjoy the medium but have disabilities that prevent them from reading subs, such as dyslexia? So should they just be considered not having watched the anime? It doesn't make sense to me. Watch what you want however you want to, fam! Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. |
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Steiner1411 said: Bro , just ignore them weebs lol, its no use of arguing with fools, sad thing is you can 't make them understand. Ever. You have a point there morons will always be just morons can't reason with them. |
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| Dubs in my language are terrible and sometimes they even change the names, and the traduction in general is just wrong. It's also the same voice actors every time. And not every anime is dubbed. So if this is the same with english dubs I wonder why some people would prefer that over subs? No offense though, I'm just curious. Do you like the voices in general? Is it something else? Please explain because I really don't understand the appeal there. |
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Nubiellee said: Dubs in my language are terrible and sometimes they even change the names, and the traduction in general is just wrong. It's also the same voice actors every time. And not every anime is dubbed. So if this is the same with english dubs I wonder why some people would prefer that over subs? No offense though, I'm just curious. Do you like the voices in general? Is it something else? Please explain because I really don't understand the appeal there. I like the voices most of the time sometimes there are not so good or awful dubs that I will not watch and if subbed is the only way to watch then I will watch it that way. |
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| Any particular reason why "people" is in quotes? That aside, I do agree argument that people who watch dubs aren't real fans is bullshit. Hell, there are certain anime I prefer to watch in dub. Hellsing Ultimate, Black Lagoon, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Desert Punk, and of course DBZ and most of Super, all watched exclusively in dubbed and all of the dubs were really good. And when I watch Ghost Stories there's no way I'm not going for the hilarious dub over the original. I fail to see how doing this makes anyone less of a fan. |
Setsuei said: Any particular reason why "people" is in quotes? That aside, I do agree argument that people who watch dubs aren't real fans is bullshit. Hell, there are certain anime I prefer to watch in dub. Hellsing Ultimate, Black Lagoon, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Desert Punk, and of course DBZ and most of Super, all watched exclusively in dubbed and all of the dubs were really good. And when I watch Ghost Stories there's no way I'm not going for the hilarious dub over the original. I fail to see how doing this makes anyone less of a fan. I explained this I did not want to put an insult in the title of the thread |
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| You lose the essence and cultural aspect of the anime and only experience the cringy, scripted english dialogue that I would never expect to hear from another human's mouth. English dub is god awful and I can't imagine how you could listen to such drivel. |
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| I find most dubs to be cringy, but whatever. If someone prefers dubs, cool. To each their own. I have my own exceptions, like Cowboy Bebop and Baccano. Clips of the Black Lagoon dub looked great too, so I might opt for that when I eventually watch it. Now, with that said, I will say that the reason people defend subs so vehemently is that the character interactions in any given show will highly depend on the personality of the voices behind the characters. The dub and sub experiences are oftentimes so different that it's basically like watching two separate shows. For example, a friend of mine who originally disliked K-On after seeing it dubbed is rewatching it and loves it this time around. He said that it feels like entirely different characters, which is exactly the case. At the end of the day, it's all still anime, though. No way is right or wrong... just go with whatever you enjoy. =) |
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phantom346 said: You lose the essence and cultural aspect of the anime and only experience the cringy, scripted english dialogue that I would never expect to hear from another human's mouth. English dub is god awful and I can't imagine how you could listen to such drivel. Because I like English Dubs or is that too hard for you teeny tiny brain to understand I have not come across that many bad dubs sometimes changes are needed to make it understandable. |
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drstonefan said: Setsuei said: Any particular reason why "people" is in quotes? That aside, I do agree argument that people who watch dubs aren't real fans is bullshit. Hell, there are certain anime I prefer to watch in dub. Hellsing Ultimate, Black Lagoon, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Desert Punk, and of course DBZ and most of Super, all watched exclusively in dubbed and all of the dubs were really good. And when I watch Ghost Stories there's no way I'm not going for the hilarious dub over the original. I fail to see how doing this makes anyone less of a fan. I explained this I did not want to put an insult in the title of the thread I see that now, but that wasn't there when I first posted. |
I edited my post so nobody else would have this question. |
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Ah, ok, makes sense. Anyways I appreciate the fact you chose to use "people" instead. Most people on here wouldn't have even given it a second thought. |
phantom346 said: You lose the essence and cultural aspect of the anime and only experience the cringy, scripted english dialogue that I would never expect to hear from another human's mouth. English dub is god awful and I can't imagine how you could listen to such drivel. I thought the 4kids era was over? I mean I'm a subbie elitist too, but my main gripe has always been the atrocious job 99% of dubs do with mixing and mastering. One too many earshattering squees is enough to make me hate dubs even more than 4kids was able to. About the only dubs I've ever liked were comedic abridged or stuff like AMV Hell (specifically Zero/Div by Zero). Somehow dumbass weebs in their basement with a SoundBlaster II and pirated software were able to master their audio better than commercial studios. |
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| I don't even like consuming foreign media in a language other than the original one. So English dub is automatically bad for me. Also most English dub are bad. And some anime don't translate well into English at all. |
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| It's just preference. The reason why I switched to dub was because I mainly missed the action just reading the subtitles but I still do watch subs for none dubbed anime. The term watching was wrongly used in this because neither the less we are still watching the same animation. |
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BlakexEkalb said: Well, sub elitism is more alive (or at the very least less dead) than elitism regarding tastes in specific series. The latter is used mainly as a parody/strawman more than a serious thing (though the debates over objectivity vs. subjectivity are definitely taken more seriously); while the former actually has people who espouse it seriously...as shown in this past day on the forum.I’m starting to think people are just falling for these baits. The only people that say this are elitists (who you shouldn’t even take seriously anyway), and elitism has been dead for quite a bit. The whole idea of it is a joke. |
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| I watch both. There is not really a preference. Mostly I'll watch seasonals subbed since its out first. And I really don't like Fire force and dr. stone dubs. But I enjoy many shows dubbed. |
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drstonefan said: phantom346 said: You lose the essence and cultural aspect of the anime and only experience the cringy, scripted english dialogue that I would never expect to hear from another human's mouth. English dub is god awful and I can't imagine how you could listen to such drivel. Because I like English Dubs or is that too hard for you teeny tiny brain to understand I have not come across that many bad dubs sometimes changes are needed to make it understandable. "changes are needed to make it understandable" nani?! Could you please recommend me the anime that you find it hard to understand. I might give it a try. Post #49 read it out of my mind nice nice nice nice |
hazecloudNov 29, 2019 12:11 AM
| i prefer sub than dub. this way, if there are some mistranslations on the sub i can try to find what is the translation wants to convey about the event to me by listening to the japanese words. you can't do that with dubbed anime because you are dictated to see the events according to the dubbing team's interpretation. |
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