Chihayafuru
| I don't usually rate airing anime (esp not 1-2 cour anime), but I'm giving exception to this one... certainly not because I'm still in awe (and a bit of tears) after watching the sixth episode. |
Yabetil said: I havent seen Chihaya yet so I dont know why is this happening. When snk4 came out and started to get 9s and 10s, a lot of fmab fans created new acc to lower the score but, why would chihaya be the target of this bullying? because it surpassed Vinland Saga in the current airing list. Chihayafuru dropped from the double digit rankings(50 to 60ish i think IIRC) to 500 in a single day after it surpassed VInland saga |
death604Nov 18, 2019 11:28 AM
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silversaint said: some years ago the top rated shows were my guide to pick a new show to watch but then the Gintama take over happened an now i just watch whatever gets my attention what does gintama have anything to do with it? |
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| There's a few solutions to this. 1. Make it so new accounts ratings are not taken into account for 6-12 months. A long time sure, but ratings really don't affect you personally. It's a community thing and should be protected as such. Make it so they can rate for themselves but so that it just doesn't get counted into the public number. 2. Disable the (public) rating ability of accounts that have an AVERAGE score of like -4 compared to the average MAL user. Very few have tastes THAT different from the average. And if they do, their opinion is too different from the average to matter and it won't hurt to ignore it anyway. If a person has an average score of like 2/10 or even like 4/10 it's pretty obvious to me that they're just a troll account. If they're not trolling then why are they even watching anime if they hate it so much? |
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| So retarded I can't believe it. No previous Chihayafuru season has 362 1/10 ratings. Mods should remove obviously spammed 1 ratings. |
| And now the counter attack of spamming 10/10..... sigh. I get why, but I honestly kinda hoped we could avoid falling to that level. Just here waiting the anti-spam patch that hopefully will wipe out both sides of spamming. |
| You have shit taste, and then I have taste so shit it makes your taste look good |
Well, Vinland is a masterpiece and its pretty famous now, so I get why the fandom would do that. But, this is a seinen though, it is supposed not to be seen by kids xd |
Eventually, you'll fall into death's embrace anyway, so it's stupid to be bound by useless ideals.  |
death604 said: silversaint said: some years ago the top rated shows were my guide to pick a new show to watch but then the Gintama take over happened an now i just watch whatever gets my attention what does gintama have anything to do with it? well i was talking about the multiple sequels, movies taking over the top 50 anime, which back then i used as a guide to pick new anime |
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papsoshea said: Every season, you see one of these threads. Woah man you are alive? |
| Don't be a self pretentious that is the most gayest thing ever English Dubs are better than subs You all have anime profile pic so you opinion doesn't count Your Waifu is trash Cory in the house is the best anime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQQALduhzA Japanese are one of the most xenophobic nations My Anime List looks like a website from 1990s |
| Well, aside from users like the Chihaya-spammer there is also this guy here: If you have ever wondered why the scores and rankings of many anime and manga changed drastically in the last months he is the reason. He has been at this for years actually but I was able to catch evey account he made and reported it in the illegitimate account thread and Luna removed the accounts. Now that he knows that accounts are no longer removed he has a field day. Even though he is not as active as he once was he still makes about 10-15 accounts every 14 days or so. |
| Mal scores were never relevant either way. Stopped caring about those a long time ago. Just don't let it bother you. |
MaskOfIce said: And now the counter attack of spamming 10/10..... sigh. I get why, but I honestly kinda hoped we could avoid falling to that level. Just here waiting the anti-spam patch that hopefully will wipe out both sides of spamming. I cannot understand this behavior, and I do not like what it says about the so-called mature "community" behind Chihayafuru. Toxic behavior is highly contagious as it seems. @Kougeru Interesting thoughts. I suggested in a previous thread or message a delay of one month. Considering that many haters act for childish reasons and because of precise events (Chihayafuru>Vinland, FMAB rating drop for example), it is reasonable to think that they would give up if they had to wait for one month. @enJ0Yable No, because one can watch only top-notch anime and drop everything else without even bothering giving it a grade. But if the use has more than 100 (say) anime in their list, then maybe apply this rule would be fine. @jrbabwkp Nice suggestion, but things are not so simple in my opinion. First, haters are much more common than boosters (one could make some statistics, but the recent history shows this fact quite clearly), so your cutoff function seems a bit too simplistic. Furthermore, there are ways to detect these accounts and close them. Therefore, I think that waiting for a solution coming from the devs and admins is the only thing to do in the meantime (see Luna's message above). |
De_Baer said: Well, aside from users like the Chihaya-spammer there is also this guy here: If you have ever wondered why the scores and rankings of many anime and manga changed drastically in the last months he is the reason. He has been at this for years actually but I was able to catch evey account he made and reported it in the illegitimate account thread and Luna removed the accounts. Now that he knows that accounts are no longer removed he has a field day. Even though he is not as active as he once was he still makes about 10-15 accounts every 14 days or so. These types are almost undetectable!! |
| 'I have no bonds tying me down. That's why I can see things as they are!!' - Yugami |
envoirment said: It's such a shame to see this anime get so many 1/10s from trolls/bots. Hopefully once the season is over, things will have balanced out and any bot scores would've been removed. I was quite shocked to see it down so much and was wondering why given its great reviews so far. lol the reviews are bs, made by fans in an attempt to bring chihayafuru back up. now don't get me wrong i haven't watche chiya but i believe it's an amazing show. but the reviews are obviuoly a desperate attempt at redemption, now for the trolls. No they will not be removed and mal is working on a solution that probably won't come for a good few years. And the score being dropped massively by bots accounts is mostly due to the minuscule community of chihaya 3, so a person took advantage of it and made enough accounts to troll, thats all. |
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| Gintama be like: first time? |
 "For the sake of humankind, I forsake my humanity." - Cherry |
| Suprised that this thread is still open. Last thread familiar to this one got closed. Let's how long it will take to see this one down. Not that I wish tho. This issue needs to be fixed. |
| I am disgusted, it lost about half a point. |
Bardees said: What about making your vote valid on the global score only after validating your account? I mean, you can still vote and have your rankings, but it's not going to be counted on the global score.I don't think this method works. I mean the trolls can easily change their way of scoring from 1 and 10 to 2 and 9. in my opinion, MAL should force their members to add more information to their accounts like phone numbers, but this way may irritate some members and make them leave the website. |
| Anime was a mistake. Heil Manga. |
| MAL score should be around 4-10. I mean there is no way any anime would be 1.. |
| Bad news, the troll is now downvoting Chihayafuru manga as we speak, guys this is serious THIS HAS TO STOP!!! Mods do something about this, this is getting out of control.... ;_; |
sweetangie said: Bad news, the troll is now downvoting Chihayafuru manga as we speak, guys this is serious THIS HAS TO STOP!!! Mods do something about this, this is getting out of control.... ;_; Well shit.. tell me at least they havent found season 1 and 2 yet.. Also seems like Season 3 is going down again as well |
FionavarNov 20, 2019 3:35 AM
Fionavar said: sweetangie said: Bad news, the troll is now downvoting Chihayafuru manga as we speak, guys this is serious THIS HAS TO STOP!!! Mods do something about this, this is getting out of control.... ;_; Well shit.. tell me at least they havent found season 1 and 2 yet.. Also seems like Season 3 is going down again as well I feel hopeless, I wish there's a way to stop this hatred that's been threading hereby that troll: this is so frustrating: I expect more from the mods to stop this: if this keeps up, this entire website will be controlled by haters: why this is happening towards the series I and many fans treasure so much.. now I'm very upset about all this... no fans deserve this... ;_; |
sweetangie said: Fionavar said: Well shit.. tell me at least they havent found season 1 and 2 yet.. Also seems like Season 3 is going down again as well I feel hopeless, I wish there's a way to stop this hatred that's been threading hereby that troll: this is so frustrating: I expect more from the mods to stop this: if this keeps up, this entire website will be controlled by haters: why this is happening towards the series I and many fans treasure so much.. now I'm very upset about all this... no fans deserve this... ;_; The thing I dont get is that at least with Season 3 they downvoted it because it surpassed Vinland Saga which is admittingly a pretty stupid reason.. but still a reason. What even is the point of downvoting the manga? It would help tbh if someone could make a thread over on the manga section much like this one.. at least people would know then that the score has been screwed with.. |
FionavarNov 20, 2019 4:38 AM
| How much people can get bored? It's a good anime. There is a reason it got season 3 even if after some time. sweetangie said: Bad news, the troll is now downvoting Chihayafuru manga as we speak, guys this is serious THIS HAS TO STOP!!! Mods do something about this, this is getting out of control.... ;_; If anyone thought it was a coincidence... |
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| idiots are everywhere. |
| I've seen worse from FMA:B community. Now add vinland saga fandom to the list of shitty fandoms as well. Also, if MAL actually does something about troll accounts then I don't think many top anime with big fandoms will have same score they have now. |
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| I wonder would it be possible to bring back the rating from before all this commotion and freeze it until the issue is taken care of properly. Would be helpful for the future to store the data from previous week and only release it when it has been made sure that none of a stuff like this happened which would basically mean that "the current rating" is de facto from last week. The ratings would still be visible on the score stats though so if for example suddenly 100 "1" came out of nowhere, simply push "freeze rating" button until the matter has been taken care of. Also admins should have the simple "terminate account(s) button" which would delete an account nullifying all of its activity including rating individual episodes as I am assuming they do not right now. |
LastShinobi said: I have checked S1 and S2, they are also going for them. Jesus, what is their problem honestly? S1 and S2 seem to be rather safe tho.. they have enough votes that the downvoters would have to put a lot of effort into making accounts if they want to bring the score down... the manga and season 3 aint that lucky unfortunately |
| Alright, so it started going up again, it was 8.09 a few hours ago, with 8.9% 1/1 And it's down to 8.04, with 10.1%. Seems like whoever the fuck is doing this sh*t has absolutely no life, and insist on keeping this anime below 8. Without these votes, it would definitely be around 8.75 now. |
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-Aincrad- said: Alright, so it started going up again, it was 8.09 a few hours ago, with 8.9% 1/1 And it's down to 8.04, with 10.1%. Seems like whoever the fuck is doing this sh*t has absolutely no life, and insist on keeping this anime below 8. Without these votes, it would definitely be around 8.75 now. I actually calculated it yesterday excluding all the bot accounts listed (both downvoting and upvoting) and average was 8,72. With MAL formula final result should be around 8,65-8,70. |
| Oh look the numbers started changing again. Almost 100 new alts since a few days ago Also looking at the most recent score updates of the manga... https://myanimelist.net/manga/13245/Chihayafuru/stats?m=all#members |
HaXXspettenNov 20, 2019 8:06 AM
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| Talk about a hyperbole thread. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
HaXXspetten said: Oh look the numbers started changing again. Almost 100 new alts since a few days ago Also looking at the most recent score updates of the manga... https://myanimelist.net/manga/13245/Chihayafuru/stats?m=all#members Oh the manga too?... Alright, can't tell how much this annoys me, that someone would do something like this. Most likely the most pathetic thing I've seen in MAL since I've been using it |
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cythraul said: I've seen worse from FMA:B community. Now add vinland saga fandom to the list of shitty fandoms as well. 2 or 3 stupid trolls don't represent the Vinland Saga fandom,you're generalizing too much in my opinion. |
cythraul said: I've seen worse from FMA:B community. Now add vinland saga fandom to the list of shitty fandoms as well. Also, if MAL actually does something about troll accounts then I don't think many top anime with big fandoms will have same score they have now. Sorry I fail to see how is this gonna benefit Vinland Saga in any way, in fact, your way of thinking is exactly where the trolls would like to lead to, I can pretend to be any anime fan and do this and the first easy suspicion would come to the one below Chihayafuru S3. Chihayafuru S3 is already niche, it cannot withstand fan flame wars like other big titles. At the moment, any conspiracy theory will only make things worse. Not to mention, if you look closely to the alleged spammed accounts, they are repeated offenders who caused havoc months ago on the Titan S3 page (gowd, another season 3 got the short end) |
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| Thinking again about this whole situation, the downvoters who are throwing a tantrum because they can't take it to see their favorite anime being democratically crushed by Chihaya, well they can't have a real impact on the S3. To be fair, people are gonna trust reviews and critics. Like i find myself going to Nick Creamer's blog looking for guidance, more often than not. And Nick is loving Chihaya =3 Just add your opinion about the series in, good or bad, and be serious about it. If I'm interested in an anime, I'm gonna look for the bad reviews first. Thing is, a retarded troll won't have any ground to emit a serious opinion about the show, he did not watch it and even so he would not be able to point out any technical faults about the show, maybe the mood or subject ain't his shit, well too bad, that's all very subjective and can't be a solid reason not to recommend watching it. There are actually a few negative reviews on S1, and half of them are about the card game that they find weird. Also when I say "a few"... the reviews are overwhelmingly 9's and 10's. |
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