Shoryuuken said: And how did you come to that conclusion your honor? Due to the pandering of overly exaggerated negative news surrounding them? That should kill the opportunity of general women to fight for their rightful rights? What the f... you are taking about?! What kind of rights in 1st world countries women don't have, bit men do? Yeah, exactly. Movement that achieved it's goal should be disbanded, but feminism for some reason remained. Maybe it doesn't deserve respect, because feminism turned entirely into anti-male ideology. |
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Piromysl said: Shoryuuken said: And how did you come to that conclusion your honor? Due to the pandering of overly exaggerated negative news surrounding them? That should kill the opportunity of general women to fight for their rightful rights? What the f... you are taking about?! What kind of rights in 1st world countries women don't have, bit men do? Yeah, exactly. Movement that achieved it's goal should be disbanded, but feminism for some reason remained. Maybe it doesn't deserve respect, because feminism turned entirely into anti-male ideology. You're a male talking from the male perspective? How could you possibly relate and talk for women? That is EXACTLY the reason why they march!! It's YOUR (fragile) problem you feel that way and NOT the fault of feminism. |
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Shoryuuken said: Piromysl said: What the f... you are taking about?! What kind of rights in 1st world countries women don't have, bit men do? Yeah, exactly. Movement that achieved it's goal should be disbanded, but feminism for some reason remained. Maybe it doesn't deserve respect, because feminism turned entirely into anti-male ideology. You're a male talking from the male perspective? How could you possibly relate and talk for women? That is EXACTLY the reason why they march!! omg Thank you for proving my point. |
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Piromysl said: Shoryuuken said: You're a male talking from the male perspective? How could you possibly relate and talk for women? That is EXACTLY the reason why they march!! omg Thank you for proving my point. Your male superiority complex problem you mean? You're very welcome, women will continue to get their rights and I support it. Whether they're in your privileged judgmental mercy or not. |
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Shoryuuken said: Your male superiority complex problem you mean? You're very welcome, women will continue to get their rights and I support it. Whether they're in your privileged judgmental mercy or not. Nowhere I claimed that I'm superior to you because I'm male, yet you displayed clear hostility towards me because I am male as well as considering fictional character being a little too busty as an important issue that needs to be addressed, which perfectly proves my point. Thank you. |
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| Oh, dis' gon' be good... Shoryuuken said: Tell me dear, exactly what rights woman don't have right now in the US, compared to men?You're very welcome, women will continue to get their rights and I support it. Whether they're in your privileged judgmental mercy or not. add: okay, you are not from the states, my mistake. Let's include the whole "western world" then. |
| Hello everyone, I would like to introduce @Kosmonaut, top-notch femcuckboy. With your expertise of social political critque in art, is this this misogyny or not? Topic: ''small boob in manga get big boob in anime'' We'll gladly await your answer! |
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| Thats funny. Her boobs are a bit bigger and everyone goes apeshit. But the other way around not a single soul cares. And what about Bubble girl? You can literally see her underboob and noone cares. And what about all the ecchi animes, there it is ok all of a sudden? The MHA fandom is full of bullshit |
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Shoryuuken said: TsukuyomiREKT said: Bigger boobs ≠ misogyny. What size her boobs are shouldn't even matter. Are they bigger in the anime than they are in the manga? Yes, but I really don't see why that's a problem. If it's truly the case that they're trying to get more publicity and views by making the female characters overal more sexy and making breast bigger, then it's factual misogyny. It's literally objectifying female characters in media to the utmost degree to live up to the male fantasy, even if it really seems trivial to you. Shadzzo said: Lmao people are fucking retarded. I hope all of these snowflake feminists kill themselves Not only do you disrespect the feminism movement, you're also applying validalism on them, calling people retarded makes you seem like the biggest possible hypocrite. People fight for reasons you may not understand, they don't ask for your support, but they also don't ask for this childish behaviour, because you're definitely a reason why they even march. @old_school_akira Well, then we all know that it has to do with female objectification, in the manga and adaptation. (if you think logically that is) This discussion should be over by now. Yeah man, continue caring about things that don't matter. I'm sure these lines on paper will be happy that you're fighting for them. |
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Shoryuuken said: TsukuyomiREKT said: Bigger boobs ≠ misogyny. What size her boobs are shouldn't even matter. Are they bigger in the anime than they are in the manga? Yes, but I really don't see why that's a problem. If it's truly the case that they're trying to get more publicity and views by making the female characters overal more sexy and making breast bigger, then it's factual misogyny. It's literally objectifying female characters in media to the utmost degree to live up to the male fantasy, even if it really seems trivial to you. Shadzzo said: Lmao people are fucking retarded. I hope all of these snowflake feminists kill themselves Not only do you disrespect the feminism movement, you're also applying validalism on them, calling people retarded makes you seem like the biggest possible hypocrite. People fight for reasons you may not understand, they don't ask for your support, but they also don't ask for this childish behaviour, because you're definitely a reason why they even march. @old_school_akira Well, then we all know that it has to do with female objectification, in the manga and adaptation. (if you think logically that is) This discussion should be over by now. >Hurr people fight for a reason >REEE HOW COME THIS JAPANESE CARTOON CHARACTER HAS BIGGER BOOBS IN THE ANIME THAN ORIGINAL SOURCE such a noble, strong cause lmao |
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| >nippon same country that sexualise children >west (mainly US because that's what the word west refers to nowadays) why is this character from MHA sexualised me: something that doesn't add up...that's right, they don't care about the former! and are just here to whine about their favoritism |
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Esquirtit said: I mean, one must think what is the point in changing the source material. For example, manga is black and white, sometimes with no colored art anywhere, so when they adapt it, they might give characters different hair colors for identification purposes - this serves a functional objective. In the manga, an exchange may be an internal monologue; in the adaptation, they make it a dialogue - this also serves a functional objective. Hello everyone, I would like to introduce @Kosmonaut, top-notch femcuckboy. With your expertise of social political critque in art, is this this misogyny or not? Topic: ''small boob in manga get big boob in anime'' We'll gladly await your answer! What would be the motivation behind making a characters boobs bigger? Does it serve a functional purpose? What was the creative decision behind it? What did the studio hope to accomplish by that? One should question themselves these things when dissecting the situation. I never watched nor read My Hero Academia, but, from the info I have, it does seem sketchy, objectifying and fanservicey. Is it misogyny? I'd have to know how the character is handled and presented to tell. |
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Kosmonaut said: Esquirtit said: I mean, one must think what is the point in changing the source material. For example, manga is black and white, sometimes with no colored art anywhere, so when they adapt it, they might give characters different hair colors for identification purposes - this serves a functional objective. In the manga, an exchange may be an internal monologue; in the adaptation, they make it a dialogue - this also serves a functional objective. Hello everyone, I would like to introduce @Kosmonaut, top-notch femcuckboy. With your expertise of social political critque in art, is this this misogyny or not? Topic: ''small boob in manga get big boob in anime'' We'll gladly await your answer! What would be the motivation behind making a characters boobs bigger? Does it serve a functional purpose? What was the creative decision behind it? What did the studio hope to accomplish by that? One should question themselves these things when dissecting the situation. I never watched nor read My Hero Academia, but, from the info I have, it does seem sketchy, objectifying and fanservicey. Is it misogyny? I'd have to know how the character is handled and presented to tell. objectifying female heroines and fanservicising them helps the ''otaku'' to buy merch. that's it |
Shoryuuken said: @shadzzo This conversation is over, I happen to not be 16 anymore. I can't work with these comments. Yeah good idea to run after realizing the thing you are trying to defend makes no sense kek |
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Kosmonaut said: Esquirtit said: I mean, one must think what is the point in changing the source material. For example, manga is black and white, sometimes with no colored art anywhere, so when they adapt it, they might give characters different hair colors for identification purposes - this serves a functional objective. In the manga, an exchange may be an internal monologue; in the adaptation, they make it a dialogue - this also serves a functional objective. Hello everyone, I would like to introduce @Kosmonaut, top-notch femcuckboy. With your expertise of social political critque in art, is this this misogyny or not? Topic: ''small boob in manga get big boob in anime'' We'll gladly await your answer! What would be the motivation behind making a characters boobs bigger? Does it serve a functional purpose? What was the creative decision behind it? What did the studio hope to accomplish by that? One should question themselves these things when dissecting the situation. I never watched nor read My Hero Academia, but, from the info I have, it does seem sketchy, objectifying and fanservicey. Is it misogyny? I'd have to know how the character is handled and presented to tell. There doesn't need to be a reason. It literally doesn't matter AT ALL. |
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TsukuyomiREKT said: Actually, no, artistic intent does matter, it's a vital part of interpreting any work. The size of a character's breasts shouldn't matter by itself, only when paired with how such breast size is portrayed. In this instance, however, we're talking about an active decision on the artists' part to increase it, which means it had some intent behind it, therefore open to interpretation and criticism. Nothing is done without intent in art, because it is an active act, not a passive state. If it had no intent whatsoever, it wouldn't be there.Kosmonaut said: I mean, one must think what is the point in changing the source material. For example, manga is black and white, sometimes with no colored art anywhere, so when they adapt it, they might give characters different hair colors for identification purposes - this serves a functional objective. In the manga, an exchange may be an internal monologue; in the adaptation, they make it a dialogue - this also serves a functional objective. What would be the motivation behind making a characters boobs bigger? Does it serve a functional purpose? What was the creative decision behind it? What did the studio hope to accomplish by that? One should question themselves these things when dissecting the situation. I never watched nor read My Hero Academia, but, from the info I have, it does seem sketchy, objectifying and fanservicey. Is it misogyny? I'd have to know how the character is handled and presented to tell. There doesn't need to be a reason. It literally doesn't matter AT ALL. |
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Kosmonaut said: TsukuyomiREKT said: Actually, no, artistic intent does matter, it's a vital part of interpreting any work. The size of a character's breasts shouldn't matter by itself, only when paired with how such breast size is portrayed. In this instance, however, we're talking about an active decision on the artists' part to increase it, which means it had some intent behind it, therefore open to interpretation and criticism. Nothing is done without intent in art, because it is an active act, not a passive state. If it had no intent whatsoever, it wouldn't be there.There doesn't need to be a reason. It literally doesn't matter AT ALL. You people really love caring about nothing huh? |
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| they should care about japan being pedophillic and justifying it by saying no humans were in the process. yet here we are, wasting time arguing over whether something should or shouldn't be |
TsukuyomiREKT said: Kosmonaut said: Actually, no, artistic intent does matter, it's a vital part of interpreting any work. The size of a character's breasts shouldn't matter by itself, only when paired with how such breast size is portrayed. In this instance, however, we're talking about an active decision on the artists' part to increase it, which means it had some intent behind it, therefore open to interpretation and criticism. Nothing is done without intent in art, because it is an active act, not a passive state. If it had no intent whatsoever, it wouldn't be there. You people really love caring about nothing huh? It matters, you sayinf it doesn't matter doesn't stop many others to question this decision. It isn't difficult to understand when you look at things from the other perspective, that's it often with alot of movements. Talk with people, alot of different people and you'll learn that the world and human rights isn't that simple and will never be simple. |
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Shoryuuken said: *cough* *cough*It matters, you sayinf it doesn't matter doesn't stop many others to question this decision. It isn't difficult to understand when you look at things from the other perspective, that's it often with alot of movements. Talk with people, alot of different people and you'll learn that the world and human rights isn't that simple and will never be simple. I'm sorry, but what does "human rights" have to do with anything at all? Also, I'm still waiting for an example of "rights", that woman in the west are missing. |
Shoryuuken said: It matters, you sayinf it doesn't matter doesn't stop many others to question this decision. It isn't difficult to understand when you look at things from the other perspective, that's it often with alot of movements. Talk with people, alot of different people and you'll learn that the world and human rights isn't that simple and will never be simple. Bro, it's just the size of an anime girl's titties. It's not that serious. |
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ManThighs said: If you take a small minority of people and equate them to the whole feminist movement then you clearly don't understand what feminism actually is. Feminism is at its core, an anti-male ideology, so if you label yourself a feminist, you are part of the problem. |
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Piromysl said: ManThighs said: If you take a small minority of people and equate them to the whole feminist movement then you clearly don't understand what feminism actually is. Feminism is at its core, an anti-male ideology, so if you label yourself a feminist, you are part of the problem. There have been a lot of dumb on this thread but this is perhaps the dumbest yet. Congrats. Stop watching Sargon of Akkad and read a history book and perhaps you'll understand why there are feminists. The word has been dirtied by hyper reactionary neo-feminists on the internet but there's nothing "anti-male" about a movement for bringing equal rights to women. That is feminism at its core. This whole thread is a waste of time. |
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MoonStar9 said: Piromysl said: Feminism is at its core, an anti-male ideology, so if you label yourself a feminist, you are part of the problem. There have been a lot of dumb on this thread but this is perhaps the dumbest yet. Congrats. Stop watching Sargon of Akkad and read a history book and perhaps you'll understand why there are feminists. The word has been dirtied by hyper reactionary neo-feminists on the internet but there's nothing "anti-male" about a movement for bringing equal rights to women. That is feminism at its core. This whole thread is a waste of time. Unlike you, I can actually elaborate my cleim, which is backed up by statistics, articles, studies and observable reality and not to dismiss arguments of others just because it hurts my feelings. And I don't even watch Sargon. |
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Piromysl said: MoonStar9 said: There have been a lot of dumb on this thread but this is perhaps the dumbest yet. Congrats. Stop watching Sargon of Akkad and read a history book and perhaps you'll understand why there are feminists. The word has been dirtied by hyper reactionary neo-feminists on the internet but there's nothing "anti-male" about a movement for bringing equal rights to women. That is feminism at its core. This whole thread is a waste of time. Unlike you, I can actually elaborate my cleim, which is backed up by statistics, articles, studies and Observable You can back up claims of what exactly? |
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Minashiro said: Shoryuuken said: *cough* *cough*It matters, you sayinf it doesn't matter doesn't stop many others to question this decision. It isn't difficult to understand when you look at things from the other perspective, that's it often with alot of movements. Talk with people, alot of different people and you'll learn that the world and human rights isn't that simple and will never be simple. I'm sorry, but what does "human rights" have to do with anything at all? Also, I'm still waiting for an example of "rights", that woman in the west are missing. Go talk to women and especially marginalized colored women in a white men made society.I'm not here for that discussion, as men we can't say they have all privilege and rights just like men. We can't relate with them, but we can in fact, do research and socialize with said group. They're recovering from a long era of being under the thumb of men, so give them space instead of stating they're equals. |
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MoonStar9 said: You can back up claims of what exactly? Of feminism being entirely anti-male ideology. Shoryuuken said: Go talk to women and especially marginalized colored women in a white men made society. Excuse me, but if you are making a claim, it is up to you to deliver an evidence to it. And "go look it up" is not an evidence. It just proves, that if you struggle find an example of at least one legal right, then you are most likely wrong. |
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Piromysl said: MoonStar9 said: You can back up claims of what exactly? Of feminism being entirely anti-male ideology. Anti-male in the sense that the movement to improve women's social standing is an attack on men or anti-male in the sense that men suffer from it? Either way I doubt it. |
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MoonStar9 said: Yes, many see it this way, because of the means, by which the movement is proposing to achieve it's goal and, by some extent, the declared goal itself. The goal is equity, not equality and those two missing letters tell all the difference - without them you look only at the result and decide if it's just or unjust by result alone, disregarding the process. And I'm sorry, but the "hyper reactionary neo-feminists on the internet" are the feminists of the modern day. They took the title and the world now identifies the movement with them, it is too late to change that.Anti-male in the sense that the movement to improve women's social standing is an attack on men or anti-male in the sense that men suffer from it? Either way I doubt it. Shoryuuken said: Meh, okay, it was a trap question after all, the one you can't answer without shattering your own arguments. I'm fine with that.I'm not here for that discussion, as men we can't say they have all privilege and rights just like men. We can't relate with them, but we can in fact, do research and socialize with said group. They're recovering from a long era of being under the thumb of men, so give them space instead of stating they're equals. So, instead, may I ask you about "misogyny"? I'm really confused here, as English is not my first language, so I'm going with Google's definition and just don't get it. Shoryuuken said: Assuming they did exactly what you are saying, how it that a "misogyny", which is "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice"? I can cave on the "objectification" claims (which are stupid, but for a whole different reasons), but misogyny? Really? I don't understand how it's applicable in this instance.If it's truly the case that they're trying to get more publicity and views by making the female characters overal more sexy and making breast bigger, then it's factual misogyny. It's literally objectifying female characters in media to the utmost degree to live up to the male fantasy |
ManThighs said: Piromysl said: Of feminism being entirely anti-male ideology. Excuse me, but if you are making a claim, it is up to you to deliver an evidence to it. And "go look it up" is not an evidence. It just proves, that if you struggle find an example of at least one legal right, then you are most likely wrong. Dude, feminist fight for equality between men and women. There is nothing sexist or "anti-men" about that. Get your head out of the gutter and stop spewing bullshit. Oh and sense your so keen on evidence (even though you have provided no information besides your baseless, false claims), here is the literal definition of feminism: Belief in or advocacy of women's social, political, and economic rights, especially with regard to equality of the sexes. Orly? Can you give me an example of what feminism did to help men? All I can come up with are examples of feminists advocating policies that directly harm men, shutting down MRAs conferences and downplaying their issues. |
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hazarddex said: of course he is, he's the antagonist after all, but you still shouldn't wrongfully blame someone for things they never did. No matter how evil he is, it doesn't excuse you (and by 'you' i meant those problematic people who started pointing fingers) to pin nonexistent crimes and misdeeds and labels on themTBF overhaul is guilty of many things also i don't think your suppose to like him. |
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ManThighs said: TsukuyomiREKT said: People genuinely still believe that women don't have equal rights? My brain hurts.... They don't in lots of places around the world. But keep living in your little bubble. Was obviously talking about America, but ok, go off. |
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