Esquirtit said: @Ozen106th that's why I said it's not an asspull, but a "lite aspull" because it's simply stupid as fuck. how in the fuck did his dad not know about demons even though the demon corps never vanished. how did tanjirou not learn more about all of this while training for years and meeting people from the demon corps. I'm not going to care about all these rituals, techniques and foreshadowing when it's just a dumb hack and slash story. this world doesn't make any sense, they know where to find demons but can't keep track of their own members and fight techniques. they even have demon allies and safehouses all over the place but no tanjirou family line with easily recognizable appearance and family treasures no idea what that's all about. Not implying it's objectively bad, all the foreshadowing served its purpose but I don't care about it that much when the story overall is ass in my opinion. btw armin fell on top of a building and was on the verge of death but got revived which was all to be expected considering they got their hands on one titan sperm injection Obviously Tanjurou was trying to lead another life than a Demon Slayer. This sort of plot is so common, someone legendary decides to live a quiet life, have a family and the protagonist is his son who later finds out his father or family's reputation, then continues the legacy. You are obviously slinging mud for the sake of it at this point. Stop being so immature. All fiction if you dwell deep enough are going to have some gaps in logic which may or may not be plugged as the story goes on. AOT is a very obvious example. If the Eldians were some sort of "Jews of holocaust" forced to kill their own, how is it possible that none of them holding the titan powers have revolted already? If Levi is so deadly, shouldn't the death charge by Erwin been done multiple times earlier in the story using horses in formation? Why can the beast titan control titans without the coordinate? Because he has royal blood that is basically polluted by Grisha? Why doesn't Historia who is pure blooded able to do it without the Coordinate? What is that ridiculous premise of Ymir signing a pact with the devil to get titan powers? Where's the foreshadowing for that? Can I call it an asspull then? And don't get me started on Reiner's asspulls of asspulls. Sliced in the neck (transferred consciousness to rest of body), blasted half his head off (transferred consciousness to rest of body)... Like wtf? And if Eren focusing the crystallisation on just one part of his body makes it harder, why can't he just smash Annie who's crystallised fully? I can go on but you get the idea. |
ShanAsunaAug 16, 2019 7:43 PM
| @ShanAsuna point is why didn't his DAD know about demons. THAT's ridiculous. -Last time I checked the attack titan revolted and a whole resistance was formed. The other titan powers were subjugated by Marley I'm not sure what hole you're tryi -Where in the story was a death charge like that needed? What do you even mean "multiple death charges" how does that even work - |
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Esquirtit said: @ShanAsuna point is why didn't his DAD know about demons. THAT's ridiculous. -Last time I checked the attack titan revolted and a whole resistance was formed. The other titan powers were subjugated by Marley I'm not sure what hole you're tryi -Where in the story was a death charge like that needed? What do you even mean "multiple death charges" how does that even work - Just because Tanjurou didn't tell his kids about demons, didn't mean he didn't know. If you're trying to start a new life, you don't go around telling your kids your history. What good would it have done them to know about demons, the eldest child being 5 or less at the time? And you mean "the Owl" don't you? I'm talking about the whole bunch of Eldian kids given Titan powers, like Reiner, Bertholdt, Annie, etc. Heck, Marleys can't even use titan powers, they can only rely on Eldians. Imagine if only the Jews could launch nuclear weapons, and kids were handpicked from the concentration camps to fire those weapons. Do you honestly think the Nazis could have made them use them against Jewish communities alone? Anyway, this belongs in the AOT thread. I'm not continuing the discussion about AOT here. |
ShanAsunaAug 17, 2019 3:08 AM
| @ShanAsuna Was on my phone and pressed submit by accident. Didn't have time to write back had to do something OMG there's so much wrong with your understanding of AoT. All that after you belittle me just for voice my opinion on show, third time y'all draw unfair comparisons with real GOATS like HxH and AoT who actually have well crafted stories. I'll get back to you later this won't even be a discussion just me proving you wrong |
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| Well as someone who knows a bit about the manga... be aware these are big spoilers, so i'd just take my word for it and say that there is a reason for it, but if you must know: |
| I don't know what to think now, if his dad actually knew about demons it's even worse? Like "I'm sick and dying but let's not tell my family demons are raping humans all over the place, and btw Muzan Jackson probably wants revenge because my ancestors almost killed him", "Continue living up here in the mountains it's fine no demons around here and I can't be bothered to ask the Demon Corps for protection". My point is; why wasn't the Demon Corps more competent in preserving these techniques/rituals/dances whatever. They are both a fastfood service for demons and a cleanup crew. You brought up AoT so nah AoT SPOILERS UP TILL SEASON 3 PART 2 BELOW - Eldians are told that they are the Nazis (and they possibly are). They obey Marley in fear of getting exiled, and are told to pay for their ancestors' crimes. The kids who inherited the Titan powers are pursued by their familes to become Marleyan warriors so they can live better lives. There are so many reasons NOT to revolt, you risk losing all your relatives/friends. Not to forget their objective was to destroy the Walls to get hold of the Coordinate, who they believe left them behind. And you're here saying just because they are Eldians it's illogical they didn't revolt, Marley has way more advanced weaponry they don't rely on Titans. There are clearly clashes between Eldians themselves - Zeke is half royal and inherited the Beast Titan, it was shown in s2 his ability to control Titans isn't consistent though. Not fully explained, am not a manga reader so idk if it already has been told. - Last time I checked Historia isn't a Titan/ Titan Shifter - That's just Marley propaganda. The Eldian resistance made up their own version too and called her a benevolent Goddess. We don't know the truth yet. Hope your at least aware they don't mean the Ymir we know, sorry some actually thought that - It's not an asspull because we already knew Titans have their unique attributes. It falls under Plot Armor. - Eren only learned crystallization recently, at what point was it useful to get Annie out of her shell? Maybe he will do so later, but there wasn't any reason to do so yet. Better to capture another Titan Shifter to eat |
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| I had no idea people were complaining about the last episode. LOL I thought everyone was praising it. Well, anyway, that "asspull" didn't even work. Giyuu had to save Tanjirou's ass again. If Giyuu didn't arrive, for sure both Tanjirou and Nezuko would've been slaughtered. |
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| Why didn't they use these techniques in previous episodes? because it's shounen no realistic at all so yeah it's a ass pull . |
WIIXAndAug 18, 2019 1:15 AM
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ShanAsuna said: Esquirtit said: @Ozen106th that's why I said it's not an asspull, but a "lite aspull" because it's simply stupid as fuck. how in the fuck did his dad not know about demons even though the demon corps never vanished. how did tanjirou not learn more about all of this while training for years and meeting people from the demon corps. I'm not going to care about all these rituals, techniques and foreshadowing when it's just a dumb hack and slash story. this world doesn't make any sense, they know where to find demons but can't keep track of their own members and fight techniques. they even have demon allies and safehouses all over the place but no tanjirou family line with easily recognizable appearance and family treasures no idea what that's all about. Not implying it's objectively bad, all the foreshadowing served its purpose but I don't care about it that much when the story overall is ass in my opinion. btw armin fell on top of a building and was on the verge of death but got revived which was all to be expected considering they got their hands on one titan sperm injection Obviously Tanjurou was trying to lead another life than a Demon Slayer. This sort of plot is so common, someone legendary decides to live a quiet life, have a family and the protagonist is his son who later finds out his father or family's reputation, then continues the legacy. You are obviously slinging mud for the sake of it at this point. Stop being so immature. All fiction if you dwell deep enough are going to have some gaps in logic which may or may not be plugged as the story goes on. AOT is a very obvious example. If the Eldians were some sort of "Jews of holocaust" forced to kill their own, how is it possible that none of them holding the titan powers have revolted already? If Levi is so deadly, shouldn't the death charge by Erwin been done multiple times earlier in the story using horses in formation? Why can the beast titan control titans without the coordinate? Because he has royal blood that is basically polluted by Grisha? Why doesn't Historia who is pure blooded able to do it without the Coordinate? What is that ridiculous premise of Ymir signing a pact with the devil to get titan powers? Where's the foreshadowing for that? Can I call it an asspull then? And don't get me started on Reiner's asspulls of asspulls. Sliced in the neck (transferred consciousness to rest of body), blasted half his head off (transferred consciousness to rest of body)... Like wtf? And if Eren focusing the crystallisation on just one part of his body makes it harder, why can't he just smash Annie who's crystallised fully? I can go on but you get the idea. |
| @Ozen106th lmao stop calling me immature I'm literally just giving my opinion. and oh sorry it's almost as if this powerup has something to do with his father @ShanAsuna forgot to @ you in my last post |
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Esquirtit said: @Ozen106th lmao stop calling me immature I'm literally just giving my opinion. and oh sorry it's almost as if this powerup has something to do with his father @ShanAsuna forgot to @ you in my last post True to @Ozen106th assessment, you are obviously an attention-seeking kid. |
ShanAsunaAug 19, 2019 2:43 PM
ShanAsuna said: Esquirtit said: @Ozen106th lmao stop calling me immature I'm literally just giving my opinion. and oh sorry it's almost as if this powerup has something to do with his father @ShanAsuna forgot to @ you in my last post True to @Ozen106th assessment, you are obviously an attention-seeking kid. Uuuhm okay you could've easily ignored my post but had to rant about AoT making yourself look incredibly stupid. |
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| @cockblockpolice you do know you brought up AoT first right? I don't think I've ever witnessed this much retardation |
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S0meReGuLaRGuy said: virg0 said: but the ritual was done annually, how he didn't have time for it? remember that his frail dad was doing the ritual, implying that he had work at that time, even being fragile. so how could a sick father working hard for his family could have time for the ritual, but a really strong boy that could carry tons of coal downhill wouldn't have? there's two situations, the first one is that his dad died without teaching him the sun breath, so tanjirou couldn't do it in rui's fight because even spending two years training, it was really tough to get into water breath, imagine one that he only had a look in his early days and didn't know about demons etc the second one is that his father did teach him the sun breath along with the traditional dance, but tanjirou hit the head in one of the annual rituals and got amnesiac about it, only remembering in a life or death situation but the muscular memory of doing the ritual helped him we could use these words for the second situation: oh, my life through my eyes, when I get into a really bad situation, remember me about that really badass never mentioned dance who required a different breath style that's better than mine so I can overcome my opponent i should note that i'm not trying to free hate KnY, because even having the most unbearable annoying character aka zenitsu, if you ignore him, they are doing good with a simple plot, and that asspull isn't going to destroy the series. even being an asspull, it was done really good unlike "ooh my consciousness transfer" of reiner, "ooh my rubber nen" of hisoka or the "i stopped time in your stopped time, dio!" of jotaro, these series still are likeable I'm going to go with situation number 3. Tanjiro's father taught him the dance and breathing technique , but Tanjiro never mastered it. We see that as he's suffering repercussions from using it for a limited amount of time. And we have good reasoning as to why Tanjiro never performed the ritual, that being he's only ever practiced it. Also, in episode 1 they make it pretty clear that their father passed away rather recently so Tanjiro never had the chance to perform it for the ritual since his father was still around. Throw in the fact that he was 13, never fully mastered the dance, and his whole family was massacred and sister was demonized, I think we have a pretty good reason for why he forgot about it or at least it wasn't concern number 1. Also, here's some information that's seen in season one, that helps the overall argument for why it's not an asspull, and that's not explained until later. Read at your own risk! I mean come on, we have hints of power ups and connections to the hinokami sprinkled throughout the beginning, you all just don't realize it and for good reason too. Tanjiro never mastered water breathing as well. That's why he has completely ditched it for Hinokami Kagura and has never created his own form with water breathing unlike Zenitsu and Inosuke with their respective breaths but Tanjiro was able to create his own forms using Hinokami Kagura. People are so quick to call everything an asspull if it doesn't get explained immediately. The whole point is to find out about the original breath and their ancestors. |
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| @S0meregularguy So all you got are two spoilers which I'm not going to read and probably don't make up for this series incompetent world building and poorly thought out setting. Can you like just not reply |
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Esquirtit said: @S0meregularguy So all you got are two spoilers which I'm not going to read and probably don't make up for this series incompetent world building and poorly thought out setting. Can you like just not reply Very sound argument. You should have just sat there and ate your food. |
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| @Tohsaka_Rukia Stop pretending to care about "sound" arguments. Dude gave me two spoiler buttons How did his dad know about breath techniques and dances that can make you stronger but not about demons. That makes as much sense as that dude from ep 1 who knew about demons but never bothered to tell it to the Kamado family before. It'll be explained in the future, but it's still going to be vague and illogical, that's a given lol. Don't need to read spoilers for that. His sarcasm was this just stupid, the demon corps have been shown to be independent, they don't rely on "reports". They know more about demons than they do of their own history. I mean, we're supposed to believe the general public doesn't know about demons even though thousands have died, kids go after a demon who kidnapped their brother instead of informing relatives and nothing gets explained. They have yet to show how their system works, probably a bunch of ass. |
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| It's not an asspull at all. People keep tossing this word around when it doesn't apply. An asspull is when something comes out of nowhere, usually to bail the author out of the rules/power levels he set up and can no longer work around. If you want an asspull go watch Dragon Ball Super and what Trunks did in that series. Go watch Sword Art Online. A power up that was hinted at in a subtle manner that resulted in the main character getting off an attack that didn't even win the fight is not an asspull. |
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Esquirtit said: @Tohsaka_Rukia Stop pretending to care about "sound" arguments. Dude gave me two spoiler buttons How did his dad know about breath techniques and dances that can make you stronger but not about demons. That makes as much sense as that dude from ep 1 who knew about demons but never bothered to tell it to the Kamado family before. It'll be explained in the future, but it's still going to be vague and illogical, that's a given lol. Don't need to read spoilers for that. His sarcasm was this just stupid, the demon corps have been shown to be independent, they don't rely on "reports". They know more about demons than they do of their own history. I mean, we're supposed to believe the general public doesn't know about demons even though thousands have died, kids go after a demon who kidnapped their brother instead of informing relatives and nothing gets explained. They have yet to show how their system works, probably a bunch of ass. And where did you even get the idea that Tanjuro doesn't know about demons? In the very first episode alone, Tanjiro said that his grandmother used to say something about demons so your complaint about that old dude is already moot. I mean if it wasn't glaringly obvious enough, his family is special because main character privileges. His dad even does even more stuff later. This one isn't even relevant to the thread. I don't know... maybe because... you know... demons, I mean the strong ones have been killing demon slayers since forever and inevitably damaging the corps' history by destroying bloodlines and losing knowledge in the process and other factors. Irrelevant to the thread as well. A portion of them do know that's why these urban legends get passed down everywhere. It's up to the person whether they want to believe it or not. Oh no... kids acting dumb. KnY bad. |
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| @Tohsaka_Rukia Well that's what irks me, if they're so special why'd they continue to live up there in the mountains waiting to get raped by demons, and why didn't the demon corps interfere. It's not just a war between demon slayers and demons, it's humanity vs demons, it doesn't make any sense at all how it's not common knowledge. It's annoying how this series keeps reinforcing some humans longed for peace with demons, but we don't even know how they coexist right now. It's just ''demons eat humans lul''. Can only hope next seasons will expand on this world, otherwise it'll just keep being a mediocre battle shounen carried by Ufotable. Oh no... kids acting dumb. KnY bad. I mean that was one of weirdest things I've ever seen, children don't hunt down someone who kidnapped their brother the next morning without having told any of their relatives. It wasn't even adressed by anyone, just had to accept this demon has a house where supposedly dozens have disappeared and no one in the area gave a shit.'Well that's just my opinion |
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| stop trying to explain random asspull powerups with logic. this is a show aimed AT YOUNG KIDS, so of course it won't make any sense. But shows like this get overhyped so much for no reason at all, when they are mediocre at best. |
BestBoiEren said: stop trying to explain random asspull powerups with logic. this is a show aimed AT YOUNG KIDS, so of course it won't make any sense. But shows like this get overhyped so much for no reason at all, when they are mediocre at best. "Aimed at young kids". Yeah. Definitely. |
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-Aincrad- said: BestBoiEren said: stop trying to explain random asspull powerups with logic. this is a show aimed AT YOUNG KIDS, so of course it won't make any sense. But shows like this get overhyped so much for no reason at all, when they are mediocre at best. "Aimed at young kids". Yeah. Definitely. Who else could the target audience be for shows with full of asspulls and plotholes? (which is true for most shounens) |
BestBoiEren said: Who else could the target audience be for shows with full of asspulls and plotholes? (which is true for most shounens) Yeah the target audience of most shounens is younger people indeed, but it's not really true for something like KnY which is full of brutality. Hence why the rating is also not PG - 13, but R - 17+ instead. And it doesn't just have 1-2 scenes with some blood. It constantly has content not meant for children/young kids/however you call them, especially during the mountain arc. |
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| lol government telling people about demons,they can't do shit,people would go mad, and honestly the author didn't want to bother with the government in the story,and thats good,people don't believe in other people telling them about demons,those people are seen as crazy,they blame wild animals for deaths and disapperence of people in the night. |
Esquirtit said: @Tohsaka_Rukia Well that's what irks me, if they're so special why'd they continue to live up there in the mountains waiting to get raped by demons, and why didn't the demon corps interfere. It's not just a war between demon slayers and demons, it's humanity vs demons, it doesn't make any sense at all how it's not common knowledge. It's annoying how this series keeps reinforcing some humans longed for peace with demons, but we don't even know how they coexist right now. It's just ''demons eat humans lul''. Can only hope next seasons will expand on this world, otherwise it'll just keep being a mediocre battle shounen carried by Ufotable. Oh no... kids acting dumb. KnY bad. I mean that was one of weirdest things I've ever seen, children don't hunt down someone who kidnapped their brother the next morning without having told any of their relatives. It wasn't even adressed by anyone, just had to accept this demon has a house where supposedly dozens have disappeared and no one in the area gave a shit.'Well that's just my opinion Except they did not get raped by demons for how long they've been living there. If you didn't catch it the first time, the big baddie was the one who raped them. They're both special and not special in a sense. They're not special because they're not what most watchers assume them to be (spoiler territory so I won't say anything). They're just an ordinary family of coal burners living in the mountains and yet they're also special because a certain someone (mild spoiler) passed down a certain dance (Dance of the Fire God) to them. There was no big reason to hunt them down. They just happened to get killed by the big baddie. And yes, the corps DID interfere. Why do you think Giyuu was there? And where did you get the idea that humans longed for peace with the demons? Shinobu? That's only her sister's dream. Not even the central part of the show. The whole plot is still centered around killing the demons for the shit they've done. Most of the demon slayers joined the corps for revenge to begin with. Those children did not hunt down the demon though. They were just waiting in fear and did not even had the guts to enter the house. No they did not just accept that it was a murder house. Why do you think Tanjiro and Zenitsu went to the mansion in the first place? Because the corps got reports that people have been missing/killed there that's why they got the mission from the crow. |
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NecRaul said: Gwenze said: Yes, i would it like more when Anime where niche think too. I had defending demon slayer because I like it, every discussion about was the episode good or not is truly nonsense, because it was truly amazing. I love it. And yet start a discussion how Iskai is with me ok? KNY is fucking hot garbage. You have watched little to no anime. Your top 10 reeks of normieness. You have no idea what's good or not, you just watch what's popular and can't comprehend a single opinion about any anime by yourself. Let me ask you this. What's so great about KNY that you redeem it as a "masterpiece"? Oh no, another one of these type of guys. There's no use of reasonable arguments here. |
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| So after 100+ replies we still have no concrete evidence that anything in 19 was an asspull? Interesting. |
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