Vinland Saga
Mythologically said: I think the main thing hindering Vinland Saga's popularity growth is that it is garbage. But why is it garbage? Even your review didn't make it clear *Cough* nitpicks *Cough* |
Mythologically said: Well, there's literally not a single good thing about it besides for the 2D art. It's about as historically accurate as Disney's Pocahontas. The characters are one-dimensional and uninteresting. The plot couldn't get any more generic (not necessarily a bad thing in itself but still). The pacing is mind-numbingly slow. The fight scenes are boring as hell. Like, I just can't see where one could possibly derive enjoyment from this. I guess, it's more about expectations and preference. Personally, I don't mind the inaccuracy, since it's fiction. Even tho it's in it early stages. I don't think that characters are one-dimensional and uninteresting. Askeladd is far from one-dimensional. Thorkell is a very fun character to watch. Thorfinn is also pretty decently written. Even if he's unlikable and obnoxious, it's interesting that there's that much irony and struggle in his life. Pacing may be slow, but I don't mind it. Anime takes time build up. Which I respect, since most of animes jump right into the action. Which can feel rushed, even tho I don't mind that. I just prefer that anime takes it time before the climax happens. The fights scenes are pretty fogetable and short. Episode 9 is an exception ofc. That was a great fight. Sucks ya didn't enjoy it, but ya know preferences and opinions. |
Mythologically said: I think the main thing hindering Vinland Saga's popularity growth is that it is garbage. Except it isn't... |
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| @Mythologically You can't even explain why the charaters are one-dimensional or why the plot is generic because of your one-dimensional view of the story. Your review is like super cringe. You tried to make fun of the plot but the only thing you did was describe the premise? Only a self-absorded hater can come up with something so stupid, holy shit. Someone who takes time to write 24 reviews should know better but it's MAL so whatever. Call it generic all you want, you won't be able to justify that after the anime ends because there's nothing else like it in this medium. You can't even do now it either though let's be honest, you can only fall back to "LOOK AT THE FIGHTS IT'S TOTALLY A GENERIC BATTLE SHOUNEN" Your rant on Thors wtf.. never did he say anything like "If you kill your enemies, you're as bad as them!". He just didn't belief there was a need for blood to be shed. I don't even understand how you can think Thors made a dumb decision by asking for a duel, if he didn't the rest of them would've either been killed or sold as slaves, he knew he had to die after realising Floki was behind the attack. Askeladd kept the promise anyway. Seriously a beta male like you feeling repulsed by Thors is hilarious lol, dude saved everyone You should look up what historical fiction is, will help you not to have wrong expectations. The first minute of this series already contained unrealistic combat so it's unfair criticism to be honest, you're free to keep holding on to that to support the rest of your terrible critique though, you're obviously baiting so it's not like people who are actually invested in critique will give a shit. Deep down you know your behaviour is more edgy than Thorfinn.. calm down. Why bother writing reviews when you don't give a shit? Talk about boring.. |
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| @Mythologically How is responding to your post and review insecure? At least I'm trying to engage in conversation about an anime on a anime forum. But likewise, I think your posts are shit too. It's kinda boring when you frame yourself as if there's no room left for other interpretations and never explain yourself |
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| me thorfinn. me angry. grrr wow what an amazing story filled with great complex characters haha |
heg said: No more, it has 200k+ now. What do you think about this?there is still less than 200K members at the moment now dont get me wrong that kind of number is popular (afaik anything that reach 100K members on an anime entry here on MAL with its current 6 million total users is popular already) but to me its not reaching Attack on Titan levels yet? should they have aired this on CrunchyRoll instead that has like 45million users at the moment instead of Amazon Prime which i do not know how many users it has and probably a lot less than CrunchyRoll have or are there any other reason why its not getting more popular right now? |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
Peeti said: heg said: No more, it has 200k+ now. What do you think about this?there is still less than 200K members at the moment now dont get me wrong that kind of number is popular (afaik anything that reach 100K members on an anime entry here on MAL with its current 6 million total users is popular already) but to me its not reaching Attack on Titan levels yet? should they have aired this on CrunchyRoll instead that has like 45million users at the moment instead of Amazon Prime which i do not know how many users it has and probably a lot less than CrunchyRoll have or are there any other reason why its not getting more popular right now? its good news obviously im a fan of this anime too |
| The guys who watch Vinland Saga are the same guys who save up and spend their entire paycheck on an ugly designer jacket. Same dudes who plug their nose when they jump in a pool. Same dudes who shower with socks on. There's not enough of those dudes and that's what hinders the popularity. |
foretold said: me thorfinn. me angry. grrr wow what an amazing story filled with great complex characters haha You take for granted that some of the 13-14 years olds on this site actually love that. After getting beat by their parents every Sunday they too can get angry and watch Thorfinn do epic things! Sometimes they throw in terms like "character development," "pacing," and even "intellectual," to pat themselves on the back and cheer up after the beating they just took. At the end of the day they just want to fulfill their fantasy of fighting back against their dads, and live through Thorfinn in his fight against Goatee dude! |
CorkMars said: foretold said: me thorfinn. me angry. grrr wow what an amazing story filled with great complex characters haha You take for granted that some of the 13-14 years olds on this site actually love that. After getting beat by their parents every Sunday they too can get angry and watch Thorfinn do epic things! Sometimes they throw in terms like "character development," "pacing," and even "intellectual," to pat themselves on the back and cheer up after the beating they just took. At the end of the day they just want to fulfill their fantasy of fighting back against their dads, and live through Thorfinn in his fight against Goatee dude! Dude. How did you kno- I mean... it is what is. A male fantasy. |
CorkMars said: The guys who watch Vinland Saga are the same guys who save up and spend their entire paycheck on an ugly designer jacket. Same dudes who plug their nose when they jump in a pool. Same dudes who shower with socks on. There's not enough of those dudes and that's what hinders the popularity. I'll take it as a compliment. |
| I'm positive someone above definitely mentioned this, but I feel that Vinland Saga not airing on Crunchyroll and exclusively on Amazon Prime/other websites hinders its popularity growth. That being said, I think it's plenty enough popular and is definitely going to continue in that trend. |
| This happens to all amazon anime. ^^; But it is over 200k now. But I found out Amazon actually has more content (like good content, not just anime content) than all the other services but... their service is just so poorly sorted you can't find anything. |
The anime community in a nutshell.  |
todd2580 said: it's like AoT when it first aired slow paced so it won't attract alot of people and ibet AoT In S1 was like VN's case too lmao Well yes, but actually no. |
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Mythologically said: Esquirtit said: @Mythologically You can't even explain why the charaters are one-dimensional or why the plot is generic because of your one-dimensional view of the story. Your review is like super cringe. You tried to make fun of the plot but the only thing you did was describe the premise? Only a self-absorded hater can come up with something so stupid, holy shit. Someone who takes time to write 24 reviews should know better but it's MAL so whatever. Call it generic all you want, you won't be able to justify that after the anime ends because there's nothing else like it in this medium. You can't even do now it either though let's be honest, you can only fall back to "LOOK AT THE FIGHTS IT'S TOTALLY A GENERIC BATTLE SHOUNEN" Your rant on Thors wtf.. never did he say anything like "If you kill your enemies, you're as bad as them!". He just didn't belief there was a need for blood to be shed. I don't even understand how you can think Thors made a dumb decision by asking for a duel, if he didn't the rest of them would've either been killed or sold as slaves, he knew he had to die after realising Floki was behind the attack. Askeladd kept the promise anyway. Seriously a beta male like you feeling repulsed by Thors is hilarious lol, dude saved everyone You should look up what historical fiction is, will help you not to have wrong expectations. The first minute of this series already contained unrealistic combat so it's unfair criticism to be honest, you're free to keep holding on to that to support the rest of your terrible critique though, you're obviously baiting so it's not like people who are actually invested in critique will give a shit. Deep down you know your behaviour is more edgy than Thorfinn.. calm down. Why bother writing reviews when you don't give a shit? Talk about boring.. damn i always thought your forum posts were shit but this is a new level of insecurity Nice counter argument. Oh wait... |
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foretold said: me thorfinn. me angry. grrr wow what an amazing story filled with great complex characters haha i don't like this popular show pay attention to me i'm really cool |
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TsukuyomiREKT said: foretold said: me thorfinn. me angry. grrr wow what an amazing story filled with great complex characters haha i don't like this popular show pay attention to me i'm really cool damn didnt know any legitimate criticism towards a popular show is just an attempt to gain attention for not liking said popular show. guess any criticism towards it is just invalid then :( the more you know |
foretold said: damn didnt know any legitimate criticism towards a popular show is just an attempt to gain attention for not liking said popular show. guess any criticism towards it is just invalid then :( the more you know Damn, didn't know literally anything negative a person says about a show is considered legitimate criticism, even when it makes no sense and they didn't explain themselves whatsoever. The more you know, am I right? |
TsukuyomiREKTSep 22, 2019 4:31 PM
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Mythologically said: You’ll notice how I had a reasonable conversation with NotFred, who is a reasonable person that responded in a civil way. You’ll also notice that I didn’t bother arguing with an insane prick who verbally abused me. Interesting, right? You didn't bother arguing with him because you can't. You wouldn't be able to counter any of his points. |
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| Apparently Amazon Prime is the graveyard for anime and it doesn't help that it's not a flashy battle shounen either. |
Read Toriko! |
todd2580 said: it's like AoT when it first aired slow paced so it won't attract alot of people and ibet AoT In S1 was like VN's case too lmao Nope, the total opposite the first episode quickly sky rocketed its popularity, by time it reach episode 5, it became a mega hit series. |
TsukuyomiREKT said: foretold said: damn didnt know any legitimate criticism towards a popular show is just an attempt to gain attention for not liking said popular show. guess any criticism towards it is just invalid then :( the more you know Damn, didn't know literally anything negative a person says about a show is considered legitimate criticism, even when it makes no sense and they didn't explain themselves whatsoever. The more you know, am I right? damn didnt know accurately describing the entirety of thorfinns character with two simple words made no sense. here i was thinking a completely one note main character made the already empty story even less engaging. wait i forgot i cant criticize this show because it is popular mb bro ill stop now |
Mythologically said: Lol, great then , you can watch other anime. This is not for you.TsukuyomiREKT said: You didn't bother arguing with him because you can't. You wouldn't be able to counter any of his points. Right then, let me counter his pathetic attempts at "points". First of all, no one can provide evidence as to why a character is one-dimensional. One-dimensionality is the default state of a character. In order to stop being one-dimensional, a character has to do something that would make them complex. That hasn't been the case with Vinland so far. Thorfinn's whole personality is "me angry". That's literally all that there is to him. Same with Askeladd. He is literally just cool, and that is it. Maybe they develop in the manga, but we're not talking about the manga here, are we. His whole next paragraph is filled with literal verbal diarrhea. The only thing remotely close to a point is "You tried to make fun of the plot but the only thing you did was describe the premise". Yep, because the premise is literally all that the plot of the show has been so far. It's a generic revenge story, and nothing else has happened so far. Thorfinn's dad dies, Thorfinn wants to get revenge, and then Askeladd's crew goes around and does Viking things. That's it. I didn't even call the plot particularly bad in my review either. If the clown actually bothered looking at the scores I gave each aspect of the show, he would find that I gave the story a 6, which indicates that it is slightly below average. So far, the story has been slightly below average, as literally nothing of significance has happened. The second paragraph is simply factually incorrect and logically incoherent. True, he never literally said, "If you kill your enemies, you're as bad as them!". However, those words are implied by his actions. In a situation where ships full of Vikings threaten the lives of him, his child, and other people that he has known for years, Thors decides to spare the lives of said Vikings. With the power levels Thors is shown to have, he could have easily killed all of them, and no one on his side would have had to die. The strongest person on the side of the Vikings, Askeladd, is someone that Thors was able to fairly easily defeat in a duel. This sort of illogical, moral preaching is completely unbelievable considering the historical context of the show. The last paragraph is again full of verbal diarrhea since Eqsuirtit is incapable of rational thought. Again, the only point there is "hurr durr historical fiction >:(", which is simply nuts. Historical fiction shouldn't be full of literal bullshit. I can't take a show seriously when a bunch of people run at high speeds downhill while carrying a ship on their back. Anyway, that's enough effort put into responding to your low effort posts. |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
Mythologically said: Of course wasting your time here when you can find something other in millions of entertainment things. Oye, when I said u shouldn't say negative things but u said it and that's it, did I. What now? I think u literally said that u can't take the show seriously, then it's obvious that I may say it to u. It's not like that u wanna like the series though.Peeti said: Lol, great then , you can watch other anime. This is not for you. Lol, people are saying something negative about a show I like in a discussion thread for the show, "just don't watch the show lol hurr durr" |
PeetiSep 23, 2019 7:54 PM
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
| This anime started strong, but I started loosing interest with every episode. Luckily I have Amazon Prime, so I had an easy time watching the show in HD |
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Mythologically said: Right then, let me counter his pathetic attempts at "points". Very amusing post, so I'm irrational and pathetic, but you're the one stuck on the same points, adding nothing of substance. It was a mistake confronting you since you seemingly have no intention of making yourself more clear beyond iterating surface level observations. What a literal clown. Mythologically said: Why would this be undoable? What did you try to convey here? You immediatey start contradicting yourself by attempting it lolFirst of all, no one can provide evidence as to why a character is one-dimensional. Mythologically said: One-dimensionality is the default state of a character. In order to stop being one-dimensional, a character has to do something that would make them complex. Are you delibrately being confusing? You're sort of mixing up two usages of the word, so annoying. A character doesn't have to ''do'' something complex to have character depth (though it could certainly add depth), that's a really vague proposition. Mythologically said: Yes being angry is one his traits, so is him being antisocial, fearless, amoral and self-centered, clearly there are enough ways to describe him. We're talking about character depth, there are numerous varibales that define Thorfinn. In the 10 episodes so far, 3 focused on Thorfinn's childhood in the village, where he was quite different from now, and his change is understandable, that's character depth. Prior to Thors' death we see how influential Viking's beliefs were to him, and how he struggled with his father's conflicting beliefs. After the time skip this still haunts him, that's what makes him multidimensional. He doesn't just want to kill Askeladd, he wants to reclaim his father's honor by defeating him in a duel but part of him recognizes his father's words and so he still longs for a place of peace. That hasn't been the case with Vinland so far. Thorfinn's whole personality is "me angry". That's literally all that there is to him. Mythologically said: You're a clown lmao, 'just cool''. I was right all along, you're the one-dimensional one. Same with Askeladd. He is literally just cool, and that is it. Maybe they develop in the manga, but we're not talking about the manga here, are we. Mythologically said: His whole next paragraph is filled with literal verbal diarrhea. The only thing remotely close to a point is "You tried to make fun of the plot but the only thing you did was describe the premise". Yep, because the premise is literally all that the plot of the show has been so far. It's a generic revenge story, and nothing else has happened so far. Thorfinn's dad dies, Thorfinn wants to get revenge, and then Askeladd's crew goes around and does Viking things. That's it. I didn't even call the plot particularly bad in my review either. If the clown actually bothered looking at the scores I gave each aspect of the show, he would find that I gave the story a 6, which indicates that it is slightly below average. So far, the story has been slightly below average, as literally nothing of significance has happened. Bladiblablah. There are other characters, there's political intrigue. You don't understand what's significant, there was enough build-up and plot development. Btw, tell me another anime/manga with the same type of set-up if it's so generic. Mythologically said: The second paragraph is simply factually incorrect and logically incoherent. True, he never literally said, "If you kill your enemies, you're as bad as them!". However, those words are implied by his actions. In a situation where ships full of Vikings threaten the lives of him, his child, and other people that he has known for years, Thors decides to spare the lives of said Vikings. With the power levels Thors is shown to have, he could have easily killed all of them, and no one on his side would have had to die. The strongest person on the side of the Vikings, Askeladd, is someone that Thors was able to fairly easily defeat in a duel. This sort of illogical, moral preaching is completely unbelievable considering the historical context of the show. There's barely ''moral preaching'' if he can't even convey his morals to the people around him. He's a deserter, Vikings travel and come in contact with more things than the average villager in this time period. It's not that unbelievable he wanted to change, considering his wife and kids. Either way, I don't consider this strong criticism since he died accordingly. Mythologically said: The last paragraph is again full of verbal diarrhea since Eqsuirtit is incapable of rational thought. Again, the only point there is "hurr durr historical fiction >:(", which is simply nuts. Historical fiction shouldn't be full of literal bullshit. I can't take a show seriously when a bunch of people run at high speeds downhill while carrying a ship on their back. And I can, because it has been part of it since episode 1, it doesn't have to be 100% realistic to be considered ''historical''. You say ''full of bullshit'' but only speak of the battles, you're the one who's irrational. Historically accurate portrayal of combat is just one aspect of historical fiction. No one who watches this series thinks it's realistic, stop grandstanding clown. :weird typo |
EsquirtitSep 23, 2019 12:13 PM
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| @TsukuyomiREKT Holy shit what a clown he is. Thanks for defending me @Daniel_Naumov When do his fingers regrow from frame to frame? Are you sure you checked before jumping to conclusions? |
EsquirtitSep 23, 2019 11:00 AM
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| @Daniel_Naumov I checked it before, they always show them cut off. You mean the part where he's throwing boulders right? You sure you focused on his right hand? Unless you mean that still where he holds his log, but that's just drawn without detail so you can't really say they forgot about it, it's just not noticeable. |
EsquirtitSep 23, 2019 11:28 AM
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| @Daniel_Naumov In both cases they just got it wrong though. You said it yourself in the episode discussion thread. On reddit some dude admitted he was wrong as well. |
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