Vinland Saga
| there is still less than 200K members at the moment now dont get me wrong that kind of number is popular (afaik anything that reach 100K members on an anime entry here on MAL with its current 6 million total users is popular already) but to me its not reaching Attack on Titan levels yet? should they have aired this on CrunchyRoll instead that has like 45million users at the moment instead of Amazon Prime which i do not know how many users it has and probably a lot less than CrunchyRoll have or are there any other reason why its not getting more popular right now? |
degSep 8, 2019 7:06 PM
| the story is slow and there aren't any major highlights after reading the manga to chapter 100 i can say that most of the value of this story comes from the character development and their ideaologies, for me at least that is the most enjoyable aspect, seeing where life leads them next, how they change and what they seek can't say that im a big fan of this story, but that was what pulled me in the most, there aren't really many highlights where i'd say, "wow, this has truly blown me away" its an adventure that unfolds, the arcs are slow and long, the fact that this manga has started publishing in 2005 and is only in its third arc really is nerve wrecking, but oh well, hopefully it goes on for at least another 25 years+ then there will be a lot more value behind the story because its an adventure and character focused story |
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| It doesn't seem to attract the typical anime fan. Might be the setting, or the way it is presented. And since it doesn't have big boobs in frame 90 % of the time, waifu-oglers steer clear. The anime isn't perfect but easily the best of the season. |
| KNY, FF, and Dr. Stone are already getting all the spotlight this season. Compared to the other 3, Vinland Saga is slower paced and has less hype during the fights. Shame, Vinland Saga deserves more recognition. |
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| There are multiple reasons. One is that it's streaming on Amazon Prime. From what I can tell, not many anime fans use this platform, let alone use it for for finding and watching anime. Amazon also doesn't advertise their anime in any way, so it wouldn't be unusual for people who regularly use Prime to not even know Vinland got added there. Crunchyroll and other anime focused streaming platforms usually put ads for their stuff on their front pages, share it on their social media accounts, etc. Amazon simply doesn't do that. You could say that most people just pirate anime and so it doesn't matter where it's streamed, but opposite is true as well. Many people don't pirate and watch stuff that appears on their Crunchyroll/Funimation/whatever, especially casual fans and there is many of them. I've seen countless people over past months asking where to watch the anime and saying how they couldn't find it on Crunchyroll. Many of them had no idea the anime was even a thing. Other reason is the type of story this is. It's slower and doesn't have that many "moments". Many anime that explode in popularity usually have some "big moment" happening, like big plot twist or some epic action sequence for example, which leads to it being shared and hyped all over the internet and being spread by the word of mouth at a rapid pace. Think of Demon Slayer episode 19 or Attack on Titan episode 1 for example . Vinland Saga didn't have anything like that so far and is simply a slower story that takes its time to build itself and its characters. It's combination of multiple reasons of which there are certainly more, but those two I listed are probably the biggest ones, especially the first one I'd say. |
TsarkoSep 9, 2019 12:26 PM
| @Tsarko So exclusivity + bad marketing seem to botch up this too. I really hope the multitude of streaming services dies out and we can get our anime from one or two services only. |
| It doesn't have waifus and cute girls to be talked about. Just look at reddit for example. And average anime fans don't like slow-paced stories. |
LalatinaDarkness said: It doesn't have waifus and cute girls to be talked about. Just look at reddit for example. And average anime fans don't like slow-paced stories. That might be a real reason Most anime fans prefer anime that have female characters, but Vinland Saga has none |
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| crunchyoll isnt spoon-feeding it to people like they do with dr stone and fire force |
| It deserves more recognition because of the quality of it's source material, but it'll never get the hype that AoT initially did. Not many anime will. It's definitely a slow burner, and aside from 2-3 episodes, the rest have been fairly pedestrian. |
YuiHirasawaFan said: crunchyoll isnt spoon-feeding it to people like they do with dr stone and fire force Well, obviously since its Amazon who's streaming the anime not Crunchyroll. |
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DatRandomDude said: YuiHirasawaFan said: crunchyoll isnt spoon-feeding it to people like they do with dr stone and fire force Well, obviously since its Amazon who's streaming the anime not Crunchyroll. yeah i know thats why i said it... |
| I would say by two reasons: -Amazon: basically everyone who watches legally uses either Crunchyroll or Funimation. Amazon is better known for its series, not for anime, so it is very hard to find this adaptation on good quality over the internet. -Because nothing interesting has happened yet. As simple as that. We all knew Thors was going to die due to how many deathflags were put on his head on the first episode. However, after that there has not been anything "impactful" or significant. I like how the series is going, but to be honest this aspect feels very overhyped by manga readers. Finally, this is a very personal one, but (without being a reader) I feel this series benefits more of being a manga than an anime. I don't really know how to explain it, but besides the artstyle I feel the pacing and setting feels better as something that you read, rather than watch (if you want an example, I would take Berserk and the popular opinion of being "not adaptable to anime"). |
| loli put this show on hold 1.i do not like animes with female characters in lead [so here at me doesn't apply] 2. i don't watch boobies animes 3. i was looking for aserious anime, but i found out a ninja kid jumping all around 4. i really didn't care that was slow lol |
dany_elle1908Sep 10, 2019 10:37 PM
The spider is watching |
| People keep telling me that it's good. They never tell me why it's good. |
Ylva is the only good character but she isn't even relevant, the rest of the cast sucks. |
| Not reaching Attack on Titan levels of popularity?? Are you ok? Is everything alright? The answer is obvious! Vinland Saga is simply not good. Attack on Titan is good and can appeal to a far wider audience. AoT has more realistic characters despite a fantasy setting, far better cg, better music, and an interesting plot full of mystery. When I watch AoT its because I have lots of things I'm curious about and want to fund out!! Vinland on the other hand has no stakes, no questions, and nothing remotely interesting about it to speak of!! The only conflict established in 9 episodes is that OP kid wants to kill goatee guy but won't do it in his sleep because he wants to honor his father (let it be noted that truly honoring his father would mean giving up on the cycle of violence and forgoing this sort of revenge plot.) The animation sucks, the plot sucks, and the characters suck. I was excited for Vinland ever since it was announced! I thought it was a show with seemingly endless potential. Now I tell my friends not to bother watching it unless they're still operating on a Dragon Ball/ Bleach/ Prince of Stride level of horribly childish anime taste. Please don't ask silly questions like this. If you actually think Vinland deserves to be one of the most popular anime of all time alongside AoT... Well there's really nothing I can do for you except laugh. |
heg said: it's not "popular" because it's really new, wait a year after it airs, that's about when it starts to slow down (if no new seasons come out). And yes, they shouldn't have aired it on Amazon.there is still less than 200K members at the moment now dont get me wrong that kind of number is popular (afaik anything that reach 100K members on an anime entry here on MAL with its current 6 million total users is popular already) but to me its not reaching Attack on Titan levels yet? should they have aired this on CrunchyRoll instead that has like 45million users at the moment instead of Amazon Prime which i do not know how many users it has and probably a lot less than CrunchyRoll have or are there any other reason why its not getting more popular right now? |
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EchoAnEternity said: CorkMars said: Not reaching Attack on Titan levels of popularity?? Are you ok? Is everything alright? The answer is obvious! Vinland Saga is simply not good. Attack on Titan is good and can appeal to a far wider audience. AoT has more realistic characters despite a fantasy setting, far better cg, better music, and an interesting plot full of mystery. When I watch AoT its because I have lots of things I'm curious about and want to fund out!! Vinland on the other hand has no stakes, no questions, and nothing remotely interesting about it to speak of!! The only conflict established in 9 episodes is that OP kid wants to kill goatee guy but won't do it in his sleep because he wants to honor his father (let it be noted that truly honoring his father would mean giving up on the cycle of violence and forgoing this sort of revenge plot.) The animation sucks, the plot sucks, and the characters suck. I was excited for Vinland ever since it was announced! I thought it was a show with seemingly endless potential. Now I tell my friends not to bother watching it unless they're still operating on a Dragon Ball/ Bleach/ Prince of Stride level of horribly childish anime taste. Please don't ask silly questions like this. If you actually think Vinland deserves to be one of the most popular anime of all time alongside AoT... Well there's really nothing I can do for you except laugh. Lol, you said it yourself. Vinland Saga is only 9 episodes in. True, some of the mystery and intrigue was taken out of the early episodes because they decided to tell the story in chronological order instead of following the manga. But, that doesn’t mean it has none at all. I remember when everything you said about Vinland was said about AOT 9 episodes in. Like vinland, AOT has its manga reader calling it a masterpiece, anime people enjoying it and others hating it. People said AOT was nothing but another basic revenge plot with generic characters, an annoying screaming little edgy brat and giant monsters. Some called the animation bad. It wasn’t till later episodes that more people got pulled into the plot and admired the animation. Leading to AOT becoming the giant it is today. Every complaint you have about Vinland was already said by others about the show you love. To call Vinland Saga not good without even knowing the full scope of its story or where it’s plot will lead is disheartening. I’m not trying to argue with you, I’m just saying it’s unfair to judge Vinland 9 episodes in with the knowledge we have of AOT and what’s it’s become. 9 episodes, yes. In was engaged with AoT after 1 episode. Many people consider it to be one of the best first episodes in anime. Vinland Saga has put me to sleep for 9. Also this is a discussion about the ANIME, not the manga. I haven't read the manga after all! I do hope that the story gets more interesting in the manga. Please tell me what the mystery is in Vinland? What do I, the viewer, want to see resolved? AoT immediately presses the viewer to ask many questions about the world and where the plot is going. Vinland on the other hand has Vikings springing downhill carrying a boat across a battlefield. The only question this raises is "Oh, so I guess this isn't actually supposed to be realistic at all??" As someone who likes history I would like historical settings to be depicted accurately PERSONALLY. AoT season 1 had poor animation to be fair since WIT had such a poor budget. Vinland is more comparable to season 2 of AoT in terms of production, which blows Vinland out of the water quite frankly. AoT isn't my favorite anime nor one of the best I've seen. What it is, is at least decently written and highly entertaining. Vinland Saga, after 9 episodes, has had pretty bad writing, and some of the worst cg I've seen to date. What I am discussing is the present, I am addressing the question. If you want to talk about where the story will go eventually than your on the wrong forum! It being good in the future will not convince non manga readers to watch it now lol. |
EchoAnEternity said: Tapertrain said: People keep telling me that it's good. They never tell me why it's good. To tell you why it is good, will spoil why it is good. Have patience, you will see for yourself. Then make your own opinion, of if it’s good or not. I'll get to it eventually then. The show does not sound like something that would really take off in terms of popularity. |
Roevhaal said: Ylva is the only good character but she isn't even relevant, the rest of the cast sucks. Nice joke. Oh wait, you're not joking?... Yikes. |
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EchoAnEternity said: CorkMars said: 9 episodes, yes. In was engaged with AoT after 1 episode. Many people consider it to be one of the best first episodes in anime. Vinland Saga has put me to sleep for 9. Also this is a discussion about the ANIME, not the manga. I haven't read the manga after all! I do hope that the story gets more interesting in the manga. Please tell me what the mystery is in Vinland? What do I, the viewer, want to see resolved? AoT immediately presses the viewer to ask many questions about the world and where the plot is going. Vinland on the other hand has Vikings springing downhill carrying a boat across a battlefield. The only question this raises is "Oh, so I guess this isn't actually supposed to be realistic at all??" As someone who likes history I would like historical settings to be depicted accurately PERSONALLY. AoT season 1 had poor animation to be fair since WIT had such a poor budget. Vinland is more comparable to season 2 of AoT in terms of production, which blows Vinland out of the water quite frankly. AoT isn't my favorite anime nor one of the best I've seen. What it is, is at least decently written and highly entertaining. Vinland Saga, after 9 episodes, has had pretty bad writing, and some of the worst cg I've seen to date. What I am discussing is the present, I am addressing the question. If you want to talk about where the story will go eventually than your on the wrong forum! It being good in the future will not convince non manga readers to watch it now lol. You are right, it was wrong of me to use manga knowledge on an anime forum. But, like I said I have no intention of arguing with you. You just like attack on titan more than Vinland. A lot of people do. Also, I love history as well. But, going into Vinland Saga and hoping it will be more realistic is like watching GOT for the first time and hoping it will be realistic. Vinland Saga takes place in a real place and a real time. Game of Thrones doesn't. |
Lawren222 said: The Norse Sagas also where based on history and where set during a real place in a real time and they sure weren't realistic either( no more so then this manga/anime" ). Which is why that peculiar criticism is interesting me. If you prefer more realistic stories that's is absolutely fine but the series name alone is hinted to what it is modeling itself after( the sagas) and that it has no interest in being realistic from the start. I guess it comes from not being familiar to what the sagas where like and therefore what to expect from this series in terms of realism. The fact that the main characters are historical figures lead me to initially believe that yes it would be at least realistic or semi believable. It's not like we're watching Loki and Odin. The historical tag always throws me off. |
| And here we go again. Why are people shoving AOT in almost in every VS discussion? Seriously this how it go's: "AtTaCK On TiTAn gOod, ViNlAnD SaGa bad" or the other way around. |
| In short, why Vinland Saga isn't that popular: - Amazon Prime - It's slow - Marketing |
| The fact that it's being done by the same studio that works on Attack Titan is enough reason for me to watch this series. The visuals alone already got me hooked since episode 1, let alone combined with the story and those soundtracks. Pure bliss. I couldn't care less about popularity when it already proves itself to me that it deserves its current score. |
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CorkMars said: Not reaching Attack on Titan levels of popularity?? Are you ok? Is everything alright? The answer is obvious! Vinland Saga is simply not good. Attack on Titan is good and can appeal to a far wider audience. AoT has more realistic characters despite a fantasy setting, far better cg, better music, and an interesting plot full of mystery. When I watch AoT its because I have lots of things I'm curious about and want to fund out!! Vinland on the other hand has no stakes, no questions, and nothing remotely interesting about it to speak of!! The only conflict established in 9 episodes is that OP kid wants to kill goatee guy but won't do it in his sleep because he wants to honor his father (let it be noted that truly honoring his father would mean giving up on the cycle of violence and forgoing this sort of revenge plot.) The animation sucks, the plot sucks, and the characters suck. I was excited for Vinland ever since it was announced! I thought it was a show with seemingly endless potential. Now I tell my friends not to bother watching it unless they're still operating on a Dragon Ball/ Bleach/ Prince of Stride level of horribly childish anime taste. Please don't ask silly questions like this. If you actually think Vinland deserves to be one of the most popular anime of all time alongside AoT... Well there's really nothing I can do for you except laugh. I never disagreed with someone that much. Vinland Saga already developed characters more than entire Aot's s1. Animation is done decently, you're probably expecting Demon slayer quality. So you're telling " a kid trying to kill a goatee guy" is gonna be the entire story? There's more to that. Aot's first 8 eps were literally: "Titans attack, kill the titans" Vinland Saga is more than just a revenge story, that's why people consider it a masterpiece. Not every anime needs mystery to be good. Vinland saga is about the journey, not the destination. |
| I hate how these kind of threads attracts assholes. It's already grabbed one in particular. coughCorkMarscough |
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CorkMars said: Not reaching Attack on Titan levels of popularity?? Are you ok? Is everything alright? The answer is obvious! Vinland Saga is simply not good. Attack on Titan is good and can appeal to a far wider audience. AoT has more realistic characters despite a fantasy setting, far better cg, better music, and an interesting plot full of mystery. When I watch AoT its because I have lots of things I'm curious about and want to fund out!! Vinland on the other hand has no stakes, no questions, and nothing remotely interesting about it to speak of!! The only conflict established in 9 episodes is that OP kid wants to kill goatee guy but won't do it in his sleep because he wants to honor his father (let it be noted that truly honoring his father would mean giving up on the cycle of violence and forgoing this sort of revenge plot.) The animation sucks, the plot sucks, and the characters suck. I was excited for Vinland ever since it was announced! I thought it was a show with seemingly endless potential. Now I tell my friends not to bother watching it unless they're still operating on a Dragon Ball/ Bleach/ Prince of Stride level of horribly childish anime taste. Please don't ask silly questions like this. If you actually think Vinland deserves to be one of the most popular anime of all time alongside AoT... Well there's really nothing I can do for you except laugh. Can't say I agree with any of this. Though we have opinions, understa- CorkMars said: I truly cannot believe people praise this shit. Some even compare it to berserk. FOOLS CorkMars said: Fools Oh sorry, I almost acknowledged your opinion there for a second. |
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Elucid said: CorkMars said: Not reaching Attack on Titan levels of popularity?? Are you ok? Is everything alright? The answer is obvious! Vinland Saga is simply not good. Attack on Titan is good and can appeal to a far wider audience. AoT has more realistic characters despite a fantasy setting, far better cg, better music, and an interesting plot full of mystery. When I watch AoT its because I have lots of things I'm curious about and want to fund out!! Vinland on the other hand has no stakes, no questions, and nothing remotely interesting about it to speak of!! The only conflict established in 9 episodes is that OP kid wants to kill goatee guy but won't do it in his sleep because he wants to honor his father (let it be noted that truly honoring his father would mean giving up on the cycle of violence and forgoing this sort of revenge plot.) The animation sucks, the plot sucks, and the characters suck. I was excited for Vinland ever since it was announced! I thought it was a show with seemingly endless potential. Now I tell my friends not to bother watching it unless they're still operating on a Dragon Ball/ Bleach/ Prince of Stride level of horribly childish anime taste. Please don't ask silly questions like this. If you actually think Vinland deserves to be one of the most popular anime of all time alongside AoT... Well there's really nothing I can do for you except laugh. Can't say I agree with any of this. Though we have opinions, understa- CorkMars said: I truly cannot believe people praise this shit. Some even compare it to berserk. FOOLS CorkMars said: Fools Oh sorry, I almost acknowledged your opinion there for a second. Look I'm here articulating why the series isn't getting as much attention as AoT. I'm answering the question that the forum asks. I really don't care that you're asshurt about it. |
CorkMarsSep 13, 2019 9:34 AM
| Damn fanboys are really blind these days. Regardless of how good or bad u think this show may be, the premise is just not appealing enough to hit AoT level of mainsteam. Y'all spamming 2deep4u memes won't change that. Also 100% agree with this: Roevhaal said: Ylva is the only good character but she isn't even relevant, the rest of the cast sucks. |
NotFred said: CorkMars said: Not reaching Attack on Titan levels of popularity?? Are you ok? Is everything alright? The answer is obvious! Vinland Saga is simply not good. Attack on Titan is good and can appeal to a far wider audience. AoT has more realistic characters despite a fantasy setting, far better cg, better music, and an interesting plot full of mystery. When I watch AoT its because I have lots of things I'm curious about and want to fund out!! Vinland on the other hand has no stakes, no questions, and nothing remotely interesting about it to speak of!! The only conflict established in 9 episodes is that OP kid wants to kill goatee guy but won't do it in his sleep because he wants to honor his father (let it be noted that truly honoring his father would mean giving up on the cycle of violence and forgoing this sort of revenge plot.) The animation sucks, the plot sucks, and the characters suck. I was excited for Vinland ever since it was announced! I thought it was a show with seemingly endless potential. Now I tell my friends not to bother watching it unless they're still operating on a Dragon Ball/ Bleach/ Prince of Stride level of horribly childish anime taste. Please don't ask silly questions like this. If you actually think Vinland deserves to be one of the most popular anime of all time alongside AoT... Well there's really nothing I can do for you except laugh. I never disagreed with someone that much. Vinland Saga already developed characters more than entire Aot's s1. Animation is done decently, you're probably expecting Demon slayer quality. So you're telling " a kid trying to kill a goatee guy" is gonna be the entire story? There's more to that. Aot's first 8 eps were literally: "Titans attack, kill the titans" Vinland Saga is more than just a revenge story, that's why people consider it a masterpiece. Not every anime needs mystery to be good. Vinland saga is about the journey, not the destination. Actually I expected AoT quality animation. There doesn't have to be any mystery but there does have to be a reason to keep watching. The only thing Vinland has is manga readers promising it improves. The first 9 episodes didn't raise any questions for me. If they did for you I'm glad. I think you being a fan of Vinland is a great thing. What I'm doing in my response is bringing in a new voice in order to answer the question of this forum. I'm an average viewer. AoT offers a great deal more appeal to the average viewer than Vinland. The people who are enjoying Vinland aren't wrong for their opinions but nether are the people bashing it. |
CorkMars said: NotFred said: I never disagreed with someone that much. Vinland Saga already developed characters more than entire Aot's s1. Animation is done decently, you're probably expecting Demon slayer quality. So you're telling " a kid trying to kill a goatee guy" is gonna be the entire story? There's more to that. Aot's first 8 eps were literally: "Titans attack, kill the titans" Vinland Saga is more than just a revenge story, that's why people consider it a masterpiece. Not every anime needs mystery to be good. Vinland saga is about the journey, not the destination. Actually I expected AoT quality animation. There doesn't have to be any mystery but there does have to be a reason to keep watching. The only thing Vinland has is manga readers promising it improves. The first 9 episodes didn't raise any questions for me. If they did for you I'm glad. I think you being a fan of Vinland is a great thing. What I'm doing in my response is bringing in a new voice in order to answer the question of this forum. I'm an average viewer. AoT offers a great deal more appeal to the average viewer than Vinland. The people who are enjoying Vinland aren't wrong for their opinions but nether are the people bashing it. I understand what you mean. I mean the adaptation isn't perfect and Vinland saga is one of those animes that has a pretty meh beginning. First 20 chapters are imo the weakest chapters in the whole manga, same could be said about the anime. Personally, I would recommend to put this anime on hold and wait till all episodes will be released. Or read the manga instead. Except if ya have patience. If ya ask me: Will it be as popular as Aot? - Doubt it Do's it deserve to be popular as Aot? - Yes, if the anime continues to be like episode 9, then it definitely deserves it. |
NotFred said: CorkMars said: Actually I expected AoT quality animation. There doesn't have to be any mystery but there does have to be a reason to keep watching. The only thing Vinland has is manga readers promising it improves. The first 9 episodes didn't raise any questions for me. If they did for you I'm glad. I think you being a fan of Vinland is a great thing. What I'm doing in my response is bringing in a new voice in order to answer the question of this forum. I'm an average viewer. AoT offers a great deal more appeal to the average viewer than Vinland. The people who are enjoying Vinland aren't wrong for their opinions but nether are the people bashing it. I understand what you mean. I mean the adaptation isn't perfect and Vinland saga is one of those animes that has a pretty meh beginning. First 20 chapters are imo the weakest chapters in the whole manga, same could be said about the anime. Personally, I would recommend to put this anime on hold and wait till all episodes will be released. Or read the manga instead. Except if ya have patience. If ya ask me: Will it be as popular as Aot? - Doubt it Do's it deserve to be popular as Aot? - Yes, if the anime continues to be like episode 9, then it definitely deserves it. I can respect that. Maybe I will take that advice. Thanks m8 |
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