This is getting worse and worse

COOKIECAT360 said:
Finally, someone else is realizing! I literally just saw a guy on another forum saying that this was the best fantasy anime he'd ever watched, 10/10. I mean, people are entitled to their opinions, but personally, this is a 2/10 for me. It's one saving grace is the Myth&Roid OP...

thepath said:
Then why do you keep watching it ??

I personally enjoyed this show from the start and it is getting better. I like plot, fights and good looking girls. For me better is better than other 3 Isekai anime in this season (Maou-sama, Retry! is the worst one)

Crashmatt said:


You have some pretty low standards there. All the isseki shows are awful this season and this is one of the worst. It rips off every isseki trope and commits the biggest sons of any isseki anime which is that is super boring. It's one of the worst written anime I've ever seen.

Afloo said:
Arifureta was bad enough to be enjoyable. This was just bland.

thepath said:
Then why do you keep watching it ??

I personally enjoyed this show from the start and it is getting better. I like plot, fights and good looking girls. For me it is better than other 3 Isekai anime in this season (Maou-sama, Retry! is the worst one)

thepath said:
Then why do you keep watching it ??

I personally enjoyed this show from the start and it is getting better. I like plot, fights and good looking girls. For me it is better than other 3 Isekai anime in this season (Maou-sama, Retry! is the worst one)

Nixex11 said:
Different taste bro, I don't understand either how people like konosuba.

1. Reuse the same joke
2. Generic character design
3. Bad music
4. Non-existent story

LordofEcchi said:
Mc taichi is your typical shounen protagonist.Dumb & bland

bastek66 said:

More like typical isekaishit light novel protagonist. Battle manga protagonists have more variety (shounen is not a genre).

LordofEcchi said:


Thank you for the correction. But taichi still shit

bastek66 said:

More like typical isekaishit light novel protagonist. Battle manga protagonists have more variety (shounen is not a genre).

Ventus_S said:


Except light novel author stop writing this arch-type, but instead the Shield Hero Archetype which people THOUGHT mc sucks and use this as a reason to mistreat him, but deep down mc is op, so mc will prove everyone who mistreated him that they're wrong later on, showing how op he really is.

bastek66 said:

If you watch anime at 2x speed how do you even understand the subs? I can't understand your post at all.

Ventus_S said:

Like I said those 2 shows frame are so low/ slow that watching 2x speed actually feel normal XD.

It's not like those 2 shows have any deep plot I need to slow down to digest to get what they're talking about.

BlueSnow93 said:
Yeah, it went from a 6/10 at first to a 4/10 now. Still better than Kenja no Mago though.

Kihira07 said:

Kenja Mago is way more logical and have higher score than this

BlueSnow93 said:


Ok...
I have more fun watching this than Kenja no Mago. *shrugs*
KNM was far too cringe and virgin power fantasy for my taste.
ICM has better animation, op, MC('s), side characters and while of course being cringe and virgin power fantasy too, it at least doesn't feel like a complete joke. KNM felt like a parody halfway through, while taking itself way too serious.

But eh, we are talking 2/10 vs 4/10 here. I honestly don't really care.

Kihira07 said:

Something about that show: Shin combined physics/chemical knowledge and control mana into his magic to make it work. Furthermore, he has trained the magic and sword skill in the forest for 15 years, no surprise that he is op

tiwibo said:

Yeah, the science bit was cool and all until somehow he stated that he didn't know how to float in episode 3. Kid knows how to maneuver like Ironman around a friggin demonic bear and jump high around the forest but never learned how to float with wind magic in that 15 years.

thepath said:
Then why do you keep watching it ??

I personally enjoyed this show from the start and it is getting better. I like plot, fights and good looking girls. For me it is better than other 3 Isekai anime in this season (Maou-sama, Retry! is the worst one)

XanderFenikkusu said:


Maou-sama Retry is the best isekai anime this season. That is also reflected by the (deserved) best rating out of the four.

Kihira07 said:

Magic like that haven't existed yet in human world, only Strom could use it in ep 4. Later, Shin figured out how to float too by a different method so it's normal if he didn't know it in ep 3. Any new kind of magic took time to even become reality anyway

tiwibo said:

Think about it. The kid has mastery over wind magic. He can fly like ironman. That means he should be able to control his position in midair, and yet he doesn't know how to lock himself in midair. It's like you watch someone speed off on his bike and then when he starts to slow down, he falls off immediately because he doesn't know how to balance. He should already know how to float when he was learning to ironman. And yet, the author somehow decided that he doesn't know because that way the story could pad until he can fly off along with his classmates to save a country or something.

Actually, there's a way to make it actually a bit sensible: Write that Shin does indeed know how to float but after some tests, he concluded that it's too much hassle and inefficient to cast wind-based floating magic on multiple people at once because he needs to micromanage multiple streams of air on each person, necessitating study on the one he finally showed off in the anime, which is gravtity-based. That makes more sense than just "Uhhh I just didn't think of _____..." blanket writing.

I find that things like that is rather prevalent throughout the anime. Things happen at the snap of the author's finger without any regards for progression. I wouldn't be surprised if the author writes that babies can run once they're out of their mothers' wombs.

thepath said:


It is worst for me cause it has weak comedy and no plot

Mother-son isekai has better comedy (and fanservice)

That other ones have better story and action

Kihira07 said:

Shin always tries to use magic based on science, and he hasn't figured it out in ep 4 yet about the floating and flying. He might have the memories of science and Japan but not everything. Also, ironman? Who said he even remember that thing? And, he mentioned in ep 9 that his floating experiment is success, nothing relate to your "ironman" whatsoever. Furthermore, no matter how good he is, he still needs time to learn and adapt the knowledges into reality. Not to mention, all the things that he did, his friends could do it if they also have the knowledges like him. However, the way this world learn about magic: imagination + incantation.
Shin's grandparents: imagination + mana control

Kihira07 said:

Shin: imagination + mana control + science (and he keeps repeating it for entire 15 years when he lived in the forest), so he should be able to do the things about casting floating magic on everyone.

Kihira07 said:

But doesn't mean it will last forever, whenever the group need to travel fast, he has to cast it on them again.

tiwibo said:

Watch the early bit of the episodes again. He maneuvered around a demonic bear like ironman, or maybe even better, when he was a kid. So, you mean to tell me that this guy learned how to speed on a bike when he was a kid but didn't learn how to balance himself? That's nonsense. It doesn't take science to figure that out. It's sense of safety. Seriously, what the hell was Merlin doing when it came to that? "Hm... Grandson, you can do some sick flying but do you know how to stop yourself in midair? In case you sense something while in the air..." Something like that? Yes, one can't learn and adapt everything at once but do you know that there's this specific order of things that you have to follow to learn (in other words, you know? Progression?)? Like, when you want to learn to fly like ironman, you need to learn to balance yourself in the air first? And by extension, by the time you can do the first step, you should be able to float? Nope. "I know how to fly but don't know how to float." Again, nonsense. I don't know if it happens in LN or manga but maybe the anime shouldn't have animated the brief ironman moment then huh?

And you mentioned imagination... "Look, I can imagine myself outmaneuvering the damn bear while flying. Maybe I should think of floating. Hm... Maybe not." Yeah, maybe not for 9 years and 9-10 episodes. Some imagination there kid. Even showing 5-10 seconds of him tumbling around would've sufficed but no, just say "I just didn't think of it for 9 years and 9 episodes oh and there's experiment." Lazy writing. To add more to the fire, even Merlin learned how to make wormhole portals. So Merlin, where were you when your precious grandson was flying around that damn bear? Oh right, you were watching him do that. Do you have the same "I just didn't think of it for 9 years and 9 episodes" syndrome? Possibly, considering that it's in the face when I see it happens, and it happened a lot, some in key areas of the anime as well. Not to mention that you also gain tactical advantages when you are able to remain stable in midair. You remove your reliance on the ground or large objects under your feet. I'm friggin surprised that even Merlin doesn't know that when he was surrounded by trees and hills for so many years.


Here's the thing. What does "I think floating is against the rule." imply during the fight in episode 3 when he can do a solar beam attack? He knows but has little mastery or it has never even registered in his mind?


I've already said it in my previous post: He should've known how to float by the time he entered the academy but he should also state that the way, which is wind-based, is too inefficient for multicast because it needs to target specific points of each body. So, the easier thing to do is deal with the gravity, which he did. He shouldn't have said "I just didn't think of it but I've been doing experiments." There can be a lot of experiments on different factors that lead to the same outcome ya know? Since this show pitches science almost every week, how about letting us see the experiments? Which one shows the best results? It doesn't have to be Dr Stone but like I said, even 5-10 seconds of him tumbling would be nice.

Kihira07 said:
*snipped*

Kihira07 said:
Again, which moment in anime even mention your "iron man" thing? You just bring out of your imagination or something?

Kihira07 said:
Except no, just because he used imagination, doesn't mean he could use it immediately, he still have to figure how to control it by his own way,

Kihira07 said:
All he did was still based on the basic of magic in this world and combined with science: fire, wind, lighting, water, ice, earth,... He hasn't seen who did flying magic yet, or should i say, till ep 4, only Strom could use it so far.

Kihira07 said:
He clearly know nothing about the floating magic until he met Strom so it's normal. There are a lot of things he did in this anime came from his experiments before adapted them into reality. Just like in ep 1, when he burned oxygen and hydrogen at high temperature together to cause the big explosion or destroyed the ceiling to gather the energy for solar beam to attack Strom in ep 4 or used his knowledge about anti-gravity to float in ep 9... You think he just suddenly could do all of that out of no where? All needed his experiments and training before. While the anime didn't show them, he still mentioned about how to do that by his words. And we know he must have did the experiment and trained it before, that's enough