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| EOE reminded me how much I disliked Shinji. He has to be the most annoying whiner on the planet. If I was Tang I’d stay Tang just so I wouldn’t have to deal with that kid. I hope Asuka gives him hell for all eternity. |
NoviSunFeb 10, 2019 8:27 PM
| @2ego Ahah, if satisfied with the TV series, one should never watch this right after it. It took me a few months and two more seances of this movie to be able to appreciate things in it (although I still don't like it). And many years to recognize all of its interesting/good aspects (apart from the obviously perfect animation and different drawing style). The Giant Naked Rei-Lillith rebukes me too much. ^^' Anyway, "congratulations". (By "season1", you do mean the TV show? it's a full-length series, there are no seasons, so I'm not sure) @SomaHeir "Rei has merged with Adam and is now reborn as "Lilith"?" She was actually born from Lillith (as well as being a Yui clone). She "went back" to Lillith while merging with Adam (stored in Gendo's hand) and became a giant nake fusion of Adam, Lillith and herself. Known as GNR (or Giant Naked Rei) over the Internet. April 20, 2020 @Kajo_Senpai69 Your original assumption was right: the TV series alone was sufficient in getting peoples to piss on the character. It could make the reinforcement of Shinji's trait look like a response to that, just like the fan dreams characters of 2.0 and their subsequent heightened versions in 3.0 (but I don't think the original audience received TV Shinji that way so it must be a coincidence) Mai 12, 2020 @hirmes The world wasn't destroyed. All humanity converged into some "egg" (the "moon" in Giant Naked Rei-Lillith's hands), reduced to LCL. A "soup" of life with no separate identities. It was kind of the Impact's goal. Shinji accepted it... ... but then not anymore, so he left the choice to everyone to "reappear" based on their own will. May 14, 2020 @SilverLeo Actually, you'll hear Anno state it himself, if my memory serves me well. (example: in a NHK show) October 21, 2020 @Figva The Lance of Longinus is unique and was an important part of the final Plan, remember how annoyed the old men (the SEELE) were that Gendô spoiled it by using it as a weapon on one of the Angels (Fuyutsuki even points out to Gendô that he shouldn't). Those were engineered replicas, we can presume. Not sure what you think was missing about Rei (the last bit of questioning we could have thanks to the ep24 revelation was cleared out with the film spelling out the information). As for the final minutes, as they state, everybody is free to come back again. Shinji and Asuka are simply the first ones (but yes, they could also be the only ones to choose it). Glad you appreciated the "Third Impact" of japanese animation. |
Rei_IIIOct 21, 2020 9:46 AM
| i just completed EOE and now my mind is totally fucked NGE and EOE are great but i would not consider it a masterpiece im glad, the theme and philosophy explored in this series didnt come off as edgy, but something to really think about... i want to watch something like EOE so, any such anime recommendation is appreciated |
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| Can't say I love this ending, but then again I've never been fond of vague, "Well what do you YOU think?", type endings, so I kinda went into re-watching this series with that already in my mind. That part of it really hasn't changed for me in like the past 15+ years. That said, where originally the show mostly interested me for just its style and action, nowadays I'm also into the humor and character interactions of the show a lot more, so I can say I do like Evangelion more than I did. Even the new dub sorta changed things for me, in that all I really remembered about Evangelion was how annoying Shinji was, but the new dub made him way more palatable, but I think this ended up then turning my ire more squarely on Asuka who is just awful. Girl needed a real stern talking to lol I'm also not a fan of the deeper, psychological, elements the show brings up, because that's never been something that has interested me, but it never bothered me too much outside of Episode 25 and 26. So overall, I enjoy this series, even if it's not a favorite of mine due to some of the faults with the plot and known issues the series dealt with towards its latter half. Gonna be interesting going from this to Rebuild once I get the full available set to dive into. |
KamikazeKeegJun 27, 2019 12:43 AM
| God. I just finished my third? fourth? viewing this movie, and it's still just as amazing and powerful this time as it was the first time I saw it. I realized/noticed a few more things this time, like how Misato giving Shinji her necklace was meant to parallel how Misato's father gave her the necklace, and that the city shown during the live action sequence was meant to be Tokyo-3 (they even edited the buildings to look like the ones in the show, as you can see here.) I also noticed that Keel Lorenz and Kinzo Ushiromiya have the same VA, which was pretty surprising since they seem like radically different characters. ...As I think on it more, the thing with the necklace was probably pretty obvious. In my defense, the movie is so tightly woven and packed with imagery and whatnot that it's hard to pick one singular thing from it. Also it's been like three years since I last watched this movie. |
gotterdammerungJun 28, 2019 11:48 PM
AND THUS THE HEAVENS SHALL KNOW OF MANKIND'S WILL TO LIVE. TO OVERCOME, TO PROGRESS, TO EXPERIENCE, TO FEEL... THAT IS HUMANITY. A singular existence of eternal happiness and true understanding might as well not exist. Without progression/regression (a movement of one's position in reality) and experiences (one's interaction with their reality that validates both one's existence/identity and the existence of said reality), there is nothing. Shinji expressed that the feelings he had felt were real, and simultaneously in the TV series he realized that he could learn to find value for himself. He accepts the joys and struggles that come with a human existence as they intrinsically possess value and are worth pursuing/experiencing. To accept Human Instrumentality would be to run away from challenges, something that he had struggled against all throughout the show. In the later half of the show, his introspections had concluded that running away from despair and seeking refuge in a happier and less worrisome place was an act of escaping from reality because he was too weak to accept it. Human Instrumentality would have been such a refuge, albeit applied on a grand scale, everyone having surrendered themselves in order to obtain an ignorant bliss forever stagnant and fruitless. His rejection of it symbolizes at long last his acceptance to face reality and embrace all that it has to offer for better or worse. Confront reality, endure, overcome, and achieve. That provides existence with value and meaning. Otherwise, existence will merely be but a simple occurrence that adds nothing to the time and space in which it exists. In any case, all of the characters gained more of my respect with this movie. Misato displays badassery again, and Shinji and Asuka became more compelling. The plot, while still leaving some questions unanswered, was an aspect that improved greatly compared to the final two episodes of the show and remained intense throughout. Mindfuckery, darkness, edginess, philosophy/faux-philosophy, drama, and suspense. Reposting this here for all the new people watching cause of netflix that didn't understand. |
| I'm not the biggest fan of Eva but this......was truly something special. Always love me some mindfuck endings like this or Madoka's. 9/10 and I'm sure I'll be thinking about Eva's ending for years to come |
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| first part...I'm following, yeah, gotcha, interesting....bam, wtf is going on??? 30 minutes later, oh, gotcha okay, with you again, cool, yeah, fine....last 5 minutes, wtf is going on, why is he choking her again, disgusting?? I was hoping for maybe another "idiot shinji"...I dunno. I'm sure if I watched it 5 times I'd think it's great, but I have a metric shit ton of great anime left to watch in my lifetime so maybe if I'm trying to decide whether to stick a knife in my eye or watch this again, maybe then I'll pick this one up again. I may check out the re-builds though. |
the mother of Shinji or Rei said there in the end that as long as some souls got a will to live they will have a physical alive form so Asuka wants to live so badly i mean the first part was her refusing to die anyway so im sure somewhere on earth there are more survivors of the 3rd impact other than the 2 of them (Shinji and Asuka) |
| Ok, I have to take time, but first reactions... And let's not talk about the first scene in hospital... first half was kinda awesome, epic ending fight that anime build up too. Even though it felt really weird after so much low budget episode, it felt like something... different, not really anime and characters I remembered (Just watched from TV), Nerv putting a fight back was awesome, kinda, even though they showed more of one side slaughter and it was all over place, kinda like it, all I miss was few scenes of personel/defenders defends themselves. Other half though... what... the... fock... and that ending? WTF? |
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| My rewatch of Evangelion continues. This film is as gorgeous and mindblowing a spectacle as it was all those years ago. It's a shame that the new Netflix version does not seem to be remastered to the same extent as the tv series was. It doesn't look any sharper than my trusty DVD's. Will the last film of the Rebuild series match this? I have my doubts. So many of the characters there seem to be emotionally castrated, that I doubt that they will match the pathos and intensity seen here. The valour and heroism of Misato, the shock and surprise on Gendo's face when Rei "betrays" him, Asuka's revival...etc. And that mindphuck with giant Rei while Hey Ju...mmh, sorry, Komm Susser Tod is playing in the background. Memorable stuff. |
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| Shinji masturbated to Asuka when she's unconscious? Disgusting But because of Shinji (maybe), there NGE Doujinshi though.. So I thank Shinji for that xD I finally knew why people hate Shinji, he's doing nothing and he shocked when things turned to worst case possible I don't know how to describe the ending :P Those eyes though I guess everyone turn into Fanta-Sea xD |
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| That was totally a nice movie, I found this a really interesting movie despite of having confusing story. This ending was really unexpected, thinking that only Asuka and Shinji are alived and everyone is dead. It is weird and scary seeing Shunji masturbate on unconcious Asuka, Lilith's existence, people desiring to be dead, Shinji trying to kill Asuka, Katsuragi doing a sexual thing to Shinji, SEELE and Ikari's true intentions, Adam, people turning into orange liquid, and ofcourse those mental problems. What I liked about this is everything is mysterious atleast for me, forget about those amazing story, just give me something like this that confuses me everytime is enough. |
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| Finally watched this after finishing the main series 6 months ago. I don't know why it took me so long, but I still remember vividly about the series and the Director's cut. Okay on to the first half (Episode 25 Air). It seems we seen Shinji being a scum and all. In the director's episodes, he only visited Asuka's room and just left after crying like a little bitch. This time, add that plus he tries to take advantage of the situation. The Seele organization really hold no bars in this. Sent the whole damn army, killed everyone without remorse. Seeing all that blood flowing from the bodies and all. Damn! This is what I'm talking about. I can't believe Shinji has NOT learned a Goddamn thing this past 26 episodes. Holy shit. Can you act like a little bitch every other second? I always thought Shinji wasn't that bad when I remember back then, but watching it now. Shit. It really boils my blood and really wanted to punch him whenever he's on a screen time. Seeing Asuka back in action is a delight. Unlike Shinji, she was able to came back to her senses and even stronger than ever. Was able to at least took down all nine Evangelion 2nd series, but eventually she got overpowered and almost all of them got reactivated. Seeing EVA-02 being Cannibalize like that. Damn, You just don't see these kind of brutality anymore in Anime nowadays. I miss seeing stuff like this. The very eerie scene of being mauled into pieces. Most so called "Blood" and "Decapitation" scenes feels very fake and over the top. Here, sure there are lots of blood than usual, but the color of blood, the way it spills as well as guts and bones showing. It really gives you the sense of "realism" that this might occur in the real world. I love it. I think this is one of the first few instances of showing Blood and Gore in a more realistic and serious take. Misato dying like that T_T So sad. I did remember that scene back then, but didn't realize this was End of EVA :O Ritsuko got cucked XD Her mother truly loved Ikari more than her daughter. Despite the daughter also falling in love with Ikari, DAMN. 2nd Half was even crazy and they really up the craziness!! Rei has merge with Adam and is now reborn as "Lilith"? So the whole Crazy Face Rei that Shinji has been seeing, this was the foreshadowing. It's scary as hell to see a ghost Rei that looks like a titan and looks at you crazy :O So SEELE wanted the destroy humanity and rebuilt it from scratch. Initiating the return of Lilith and opening of "Chamber of Guf". I guess originally, Ikari wanted to just use the EVA's to just meet Yui? He didn't really intended to sacrifice humanity just like what Seele did? In the end, they both accomplish their goals. SEELE wanted to reborn humanity in order to atone for its sins, And Ikari briefly meets Yui, before being chop to half by EVA-01. Seeing the bones stick out :O Damn! Everyone turns into water(orange juice?) Seeing their so called close ones before death. Makoto-Misato, Maya-Ritsuko Fuyutsuki-Yui, Aoba a bunch of Rei's :| At the end, Humanity is wipe out. By resetting it, everyone's consciousness has been merge into one, but Shinji still wanted to still have his own individuality, since he finally believe that his feelings he experience before this, we're all real. Honestly, it was a selfish act since Shinji cannot fucking make up his own damn mind. I don't want to live, I rather do nothing at all, yet at the end he still choose to remain things the same. Even had a nod to the original "Congratulations" Ending where everyone was in the shot. Now both Shinji and Asuka are returned from what's left of Earth. Rei's part get's torn into half of what's left off it. Shinji tries to strangle Asuka one more time. For reasons because he couldn't do anything? He is a scum and wants to just kill everything? Then cries like a bitch while Asuka awakes to see this scum once again acting like a bitch. The audience shots with real life Japanese fans in the theater and outside. Pretty much shows how Anno is probably trolling the audience about what happened during the original airing of the TV series. The movie audience is probably the Death True and Rebirth OVA's since this version is a complete version of the two. Seeing all the death threats as well as the positive remarks about what they like about Evangelion. I appreciate Anno and his team for posting all of it in part of the movie! The End(?). That was a crazy roller coaster ride. The movie is not confusing, but you just need to rewatch the whole thing or some scenes in order to get some understanding of it. They just added the Japanese style plot twists and mind breaking themes that people aren't really used to compared to other medium. All I did is rewatch the 2nd half which is probably the one that cause among the confusions. It's still makes much more sense compared to Lain, which no matter how many rewatches you do. It will still be confusing for you. Now that's a way to end the year! I'm now contemplating to watch the Rebuild 1.1, 2.2, 3.3 Films(which is different; ala Remake) or wait for the final 4.4 BD and watch everything in one go. We're finally getting close to the end of Rebuild Films. I wonder if the Ending will be just as crazy as this one! I know they already retcon a couple of stuff and even added a new main pilot to booth. I can't wait to compare both endings once 4.0 is out!! Amazing work and watching this in BD is just glorious! 10/10! |
SomaHeirDec 26, 2019 11:18 AM
Rei_III said: @SomaHeir "Rei has merged with Adam and is now reborn as "Lilith"?" She was actually born from Lillith (as well as being a Yui clone). She "went back" to Lillith while merging with Adam (stored in Gendo's hand) and became a giant nake fusion of Adam, Lillith and herself. Known as GNR (or Giant Naked Rei) over the Internet. Thanks for clarification! Time to read some of the artbooks and designs like Der Mond and Die Sterne :) |
| A full month later, I finally get around to watching EoE. This was some fucked up shit. I need more time to process what I just watched, maybe rewatch it. I may come back and update this with extended thoughts later, but in case I don't I'll leave a TLDR. Also, before I begin: I probably shouldn't have found both the orange juice and masturbating scenes to be hilarious, but they were. Don't judge. Held up by its fantastic animation that puts the original (which was great as well) to complete shame, the End of Evangelion explains some but not all of the original's greatest plot holes while bringing a much needed sense of finality. While Shinji is still an unbearable toddler, at least his unbearableness made sense in this context. I still don't like the idea of a movie being necessary to explain your awful writing, but what can you do. 7/10. |
| Absolutely amazing. I don’t know if I prefer it or the final 2 episodes, but... wow. I don’t think I can give it anything but a 10. Like, yeah everyone’s dead, but we got some great development before that. I like that it demands your attention and participation, but I guess some people don’t and that is ok. I’ve had nightmares about MP evas, they’re terrifying. Asuka’s death is one of the most glorious and terrifying moments ever animated, ever. (Ever!!!) |
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| ............ yeaaaaaaaah i clocked out when misato kissed shinji some truly iconic imagery in this, but this was no less ridiculous than the original final episodes. NGE postures itself like it's exploring some transcendent philosophy when really it's just beating "face reality, love yourself, (insert more universal themes here)" into the viewer's head with a loud, screaming hammer. over and over. this series proved to be wayyyy more obnoxious than intriguing. 5/10 |
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| Summary: Shinji decides to live despite all that complaining and "I dont want to live" cringe. The end |
| So if Shinji didn't go into the Eva like he wanted none of that would have happened. So yeah...Shinji running away would have been a good thing. Anyway a bit more plot than the last two eps of the series. A bit over-wrought on the Christian symbolism, but that was the crux of the story. And some scenes went on waaaaay too long. And in conclusion...Shinji just needed a girl friend. That's the end result for all stories really. :D |
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| I was surprised by how much hate a lot of people had for Shinji when I watched the series and found his overall demeanor to be understandable considering his situation from start to end but if his actions (or the lack thereof) in this movie were the reason why he's so despised, I can see where they were coming from now. He didn't want to hurt anyone yet he waited for everything to go to shit before freaking out after seeing that the people he knew are dead, psh. If Misato found out about Shinji just cowering in the hangar while Asuka risked her life and lost after all the trouble she took to take him to Unit 01, she would've been beyond disappointed. It's good that Shinji decided to reverse his decision and reject Instrumentality so he can finally forge some real bonds with others and make some fulfilling memories with them but I think that he should've gotten himself together before everyone turned to orange juice with a giant white corpse in the horizon alongside the devastation. I guess that seeing Asuka of all people and her alone the moment after he decided to make more human connections pissed Shinji off real bad kek The second half was an absolute mindfuck where the only way I would even remotely understand was through intently watching it without saying a single word and reading about what just happened in the internet to make sure. I'll have to say that despite it being the horrific end of the world, the Third Impact looked menacingly beautiful as it was scary to me and Komm Süsser Todd's so catchy that it's become stuck in my head right after the movie ended. While I personally liked the "happier" ending of the TV series more, this definitely had a LOT more impact. It's a really good movie that made me feel conflicted throughout instead of just the usual enjoyment and that doesn't happen a lot~ |
Kajo_Senpai69Apr 19, 2020 10:42 PM
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| Great movie, but my brain hurts now. |
| This movie was great! i liked it a lot.but i didn't understand the ending.world destroyed or....? |
| Well, after the shitty mental clusterfuck the original eva ending was, i thought this was going to be more or less the same anticlimatic ending, it turned out I was wrong (thankfully) I'm speechless, this shit it's probably one of, if not the best movie i've ever seen. It gives an actual clousure to the plot and surprinsingly, i was able to understand everything on the first watch(maybe i'm just woke idk). Actually, I understood everything, except one thing, about how Shinji came to that conclusion in the end, but since due to the circumstances, I wasn't paying much attention at that particular moment so i may missed something. Or maybe is that the original ending complements with this one, so they didn't bother with that part much. |
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| Might need to rewatch it to truly enjoy it i guess. It was so much left ot interpretation that there was nothing to hold onto if you get me... a bit too much of ok think for yourself what this should be... that theres no real closure and everyone will think up the ending for themselves I guess to me it felt like choose to live with imperfections and knowing it will mean struggling and start anew or decide to end it all, all the suffering but that also means there wont be any humans and you ill be alone always but blissfull. Something like that. Might be totally off but well id like to fill it in how i want to anyways.. And yeah adam and eve being shinji and asuka that i at least got out of it.. and that the world isnt destroyed. But they all start anew. Rather confusing series and movie but i wasnt bored either.. 7/10 |
GyarutsundereAug 10, 2020 12:42 PM
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| I don't think I will ever see another piece of anime as unique and mindblowing as I witnessed here The end of Evangelion might just be the most complex and most deep animated film ever created. Yes I've seen Akira, I've seen one of Satoshi Kon works but this one is in the league of it's own. There really isn' many scenes that I wan't to talk about in this film because so many things here have deeper meaning behind them and talking about them would just be too much of brain work. A few parts that I found more interesting and surprising : -The intro hospital scene (this one just speaks for itself as I have never seen something like to be put even in an anime for adults.) -Misato's goodbye to Shinji ( It was really shocking when I found out about that frame where you can acually see her getting blown up, also that cross necklace she gives to Shinji definitely isn't some ordinary item.) -The lance of Longinus (I actually thought only one existed and the way they spoke about it when used to defeat the angel it made an illusion that it's one of the kind. But the Asuka got hit with one and it was really a surprise) -The 12 men from SEELE ( We never really got too much info about them but their goal truly was an unbelievable one and it seems that they managed to accomplish it. ) -Rei ( Well this technically proves that Shinji's and Rei's relationship would count as incest if they ever had one, since Rei is a close of Shinji's mother and could actually be considered biological sister of Shinji) -The final minutes (This can be viewed as either happy or sad moment. Yes there might be nothing left, all those memorable characters we felt connected too or hated are gone, but on the other hand the very dark humanity which already made the world a very depressing place to live in that we see in Evangelion is finaly gone for good. Only Shinji and Asuka remain as the only two humans symbolising Adam and Eve ). This is one of a few very rare occasions when serious depression was actually responsible for something so masterfully and uniquely done. Would evangelion franchise even exist if it's creator never had a depression. This was such an unexplainable watching expierence because the creator was allowed to fully express himself in any way he wanted which resulted something so psychologically haunting but aesteticaly pleasing that there really isn't much to be added. I can only say that only few creators of certain movies or franchises of entertaiment have the creativity and absurd mindset that Mr. Hideaki Anno shown us. The film is a masterpiece and not much else to be said, we will definitely not witness something like ever again because how much the entertaiment industry is changing and showing something as complex as this is considered an extremely risky investment for a studio willing to take on such task. I'm glad I decided to finaly watch Evangelion because it really exceeded my expectations and made Mecha genre look like way way more than just giant robots fighting each other and being piloted by a badass MC's. 9.5/10 |
| A boy. Shinji standing above Asuka. Dem nipples! Dat pantsu. Oh shit! Shinji locked the door and bust a load in front of Asuka. Misato. The spear is on the moon. Gendo. Rei. The glasses. The truth about Second Impact. LMFAO And that was the end. Don't worry Anno, I won't kill you, but the lack of the GOAT, Pen Pen, in this movie hurts. |
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| Why is Masayuki credited as a "Visual Water Artist" here? https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=419 Clearly doesn't sound like a real role, more like a joke. UPD: found this: https://forum.evageeks.org/post/115160/Commentary-Fly-Me-To-The-Moon/#115160 Somehow I never knew (or did I forget?) about this extended ending existence. |
St0rmbladeNov 17, 2020 5:51 AM
| Movie went from zero to one hundred to a million real quick. I have watched alot of animes and this film is the first to give me such a weird empty vibe after watching it. Really unique and one of a kind phenomena writing. Really enjoyed it. |
| Poker face,speechless,mind fuck,lossess,scream,wtf is happening,why is this looks like a hentai,why it's so aesthetics but also painful,why i'm scared to sleep,why i miss kaworu,why i'm doing weird don't know what happening face. nevermind ii'm speechless 5/5 |
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| psychological aspects , basically everything about this movie is well executed I am just shocked this is just too good |
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| uhh i want to rate it but i just have no idea what to think about it, i enjoyed it to a degree but i just have no idea what to think. It has a nice message about escapism and depression which i think a lot of us who enjoy anime struggle with |
| I thought the ending in episodes 25 and 26 was strange, but this took it to a whole new level. I don't understand how this has such a high score, it just seemed like a clusterfuck to me. Overall I've been pretty underwhelmed by the Evangelion series. 2/5 |
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