Vinland Saga
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Taito10 said: Mythologically said: The little kid can kill professional soldiers because he is the main character 😎.. No, in this series some people have super strength or super agility. It is not realistic anime, you should already know this after episode four. they are parkour and freerunning experts |
phantomfandom said: I can accept that Thorfinn fall into dark side, but with the same group that kill his father? And is this fantasy? A group of highly developed countries were once involced in such an unreasonably barbaric act? Also a little bit funny story of mine, I watch this anime because a decade ago my friend recommend me a masterpiece manga. I mistakenly remember that manga as Vinland Saga, but recently my friend correct me it's actually 'Vagabond' (and there's no anime adaptation yet). They aren't highly developed? Plus these are raiders, mercs and pirates not established Danish forces sent to soften the Kingdom up for the real invasion. Raids like this were common during this era though this is towards the end of the VIking Age. Also he is following them because if he leaves likely he will never find Askeladd again. He doesn't really have much of a way home at this point either. He wants to kill him in an honorable duel similar to justify what his father did. As for Vinland it's pretty highly rated too only a few points down from Vagabond. That series also will very unlikely ever get an anime adaption due to it's art being nigh impossible to adapt correctly (way too photo realistic and detailed I can't see any anime adaption ever doing it justice). |
| We finally begin to see Thorfinn's transformation. The brutality of war is on full display in this episode. This episode tells how truly awful Thorfinn's fate is, having to work with Vikings to be able to avenge his father. I wonder how many years its been? Felt so bad for the English family who helped him. I think we can all guess what their fate was, as disgusting as it might be. It goes to show how far Thorfinn has fallen. |
Short_Circut said: oh ok so people love it for the characters not for the actual plot/story right?? I had high hopes for this show thinking it must have a really unique story to have so many fans fall in love with it despite its confusing abstractness. I guess they just love the cute girls and their harem relationship with araragi.ttcchen said: talking about the monogatari series just what the hell made it so popular??? I tried watching it but it's just so confusing as if they're making it abstract just for the sake of confusing people into thinking "omg this is so confusing which must means this is something deep and meaningful that's beyond my understanding!" It's because of its fun cast who has some of the best character chemistry in anime in general lol (at least to most people that is). Same reason why Bunny Girl Senpai is also quite popular albeit only the 1st 2 arcs had great chemistry imo |
Marrone said: Lol Askeladd drives the story in Prologue not Thorfinn. Keep chatting crap you will realise how jumping to conclusions makes you look like a clown later. "Keep chatting crap". Thorfinn became number 1 elite soldier in what? Months? But time is not the point. You don't get good at PvP if you don't train in PvP. Fighting a tree with a knife is not PvP training. Can you call directly killing people from 0 training? Not really, the point in training is that you try doing something, you fail, you improve. Going directly to war doesn't give you the chance to fail and then improve, because when you fail you die. |
| This is the reason I didn't want to begin watching the show before it finished airing. I got curious and saw the first episode, ended up watching everything that aired. Now I need to go trough the agony of waiting weekly. |
| First blood drew for Thorfinn, followed by buckets of blood spilled actually eh He eventually chose his way, in other words attacking villages by the sea, taking lives and looting : classic way of life for a Vikings. I believe there will so many more bloodbathes later on lol, but I honestly appreciate that it ain't too censored. |
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JakkoFourEyes said: TolkienFan365 said: Also he is following them because if he leaves likely he will never find Askeladd again. He doesn't really have much of a way home at this point either. He wants to kill him in an honorable duel similar to justify what his father did. Lol there's absolutely nothing honourable about what he's currently doing. The duel won't be very honourable if he got there by helping Askeladd and his men kill and rape entire villages. He can stay with them all he wants, but actually helping them is an entirely different thing. I get that he's blinded by revenge, but this is really extreme. Honor is a subjective thing for Thorfinn it's just about fighting fair the weak die the strong survive which is a mentality he starts to hold as he sees this stuff around him. Also while he is helping them again these places were going to be hit even if he killed Askeladd in cold blood now. Not to mention he has to fight for his own needs food etc. He has no skills, no way to get home (the distance to from Iceland to Britain is far using sailing ships plus he has no knowledge of navigation and you got all the other problems with sailing like pirates, weather etc), can't speak the language and most natives would murder him once he opened his mouth. Not saying what Thorfinn's doing is right and the story doesn't reinforce his beliefs at all. While he can be smart in terms of fighting and survival he has a very narrow view and ultimately misunderstood his father. His actions are ones that many rightfully would look at as wrong if not evil in maybe some cases. So I am not saying what he is doing is honorable I am saying in his mind killing Askeladd one on one would give some meaning in Thors death to Thorfinn. That and again he is also just surviving he kinda was forced into this life when he stowed away. |
BilboBaggins365Aug 11, 2019 6:28 PM
JakkoFourEyes said: TolkienFan365 said: Also he is following them because if he leaves likely he will never find Askeladd again. He doesn't really have much of a way home at this point either. He wants to kill him in an honorable duel similar to justify what his father did. Lol there's absolutely nothing honourable about what he's currently doing. The duel won't be very honourable if he got there by helping Askeladd and his men kill and rape entire villages. He can stay with them all he wants, but actually helping them is an entirely different thing. I get that he's blinded by revenge, but this is really extreme. But does he care at all about raping is the thing? |
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ManThighs said: For all the people bitching about how he shouldn't be able to kill people, I have to question if we've been watching the same show. His dad was extremely OP and it only makes sense that as his son he'd be at least half as strong. Even if we factor in his age and inexperience, he still has trained and fought vigorously with people who kill, loot, and steal for a living. For some reason people think there needs to be 100% realism because this is a historic drama and because this story has fantastical elements that is an actual flaw and not artistic license. Honestly most historic shows tend to fail to actually capture proper combat even those that do like say HBO's Rome they still have plenty of exaggerated elements in some scenes for dramatic effect that aren't close to real. Vinland's combat isn't realistic if you really don't like that best to just drop it. I see it as an exaggerated telling of history which there are actual historic records like that (see Romance of the Three Kingdoms which has more crazy stuff than this). The first two kills Thorfinn gets though I actually think is somewhat believable in getting them while shocked or least expecting. Though any 2 on 1 fight your 90% likely to die in. |
Mythologically said: Taito10 said: No, in this series some people have super strength or super agility. It is not realistic anime, you should already know this after episode four. "haha the MC is randomly overpowered" "No, some other people are randomly overpowered" Damn, what an astute point! Got me there! You might as well drop this. He's only going to become a better fighter from this point onward, and it's obvious that your fixation on realism is hindering your enjoyment of the show. |
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Mythologically said: TsukuyomiREKT said: You might as well drop this. He's only going to become a better fighter from this point onward, and it's obvious that your fixation on realism is hindering your enjoyment of the show. No, my enjoyment is mainly hindered by the lack of any excitement whatsoever. Besides for Thors vs Askeladd, which I really enjoyed, I've been struggling to stay awake throughout this show. The lack of realism was just a small point that I brought up in my first post due to it slightly annoying me, but now that about 28 people have quoted me on it, I'm actually starting to care about it. The story is a slow burn, especially in the beginning. I know it's cliche to say that stories "get better", but it definitely applies here. Once we get past all of this flashback and build up, there's a lot more exciting things to come. All I'm gonna say is that there's a reason why so many people praise this first arc. |
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| Another great episode. And that piano ost in the background kinda reminds me of tokyo ghoul, both has that similar piano ost kinda thing (lol) TsukuyomiREKT said: don't know why but this post put a smile on my face."hurr durr he shouldn't be able to kill grown men hurr durr" |
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| tragedy and too much evil violence humanity should never go back on those ages |
AcceleratorAngel said: So did they adapt chapter 1 and 2 of the manga yet with future thorfinn, and the slave girl? They skipped to the part where the girl and her daughter save him and give him food and he tries to tell them to run away but they dont listen |
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AcceleratorAngel said: So did they adapt chapter 1 and 2 of the manga yet with future thorfinn, and the slave girl? Chapter 1 of the manga will be episode 7 of the anime (means next week) Here`s the preview ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s53wNitaNqo |
ProofByColor said: So good man. What a brutal moment for Thorrfinn and that poor old lady. I doubt many of those villagers made it out alive. Besides that I really liked how they showed Thorfinn getting his first kill and then later getting two daggers. Thorfinn be like:  ttcchen said: talking about the monogatari series just what the hell made it so popular??? I tried watching it but it's just so confusing as if they're making it abstract just for the sake of confusing people into thinking "omg this is so confusing which must means this is something deep and meaningful that's beyond my understanding!" Monogatari is not that confusing and deep. Supernatural plot is good but nothing outstanding by itself, but the show uses their audiovisual features in general as a part of the narrative by creating a proper setting and emphasizing dialogues (it has a lot) and characters interaction, all in order to make the show more attractive and interesting to see. It might sound a little bit pretentious, but it works pretty well. That, and what Short_Circut said about character chemistry (and characters by themselves). |
Rhapsody-Aug 11, 2019 10:50 PM
Mythologically said: Taito10 said: No, in this series some people have super strength or super agility. It is not realistic anime, you should already know this after episode four. "haha the MC is randomly overpowered" "No, some other people are randomly overpowered" Damn, what an astute point! Got me there! MC is not randomly overpowered (he's son of Troll) and I never said that he is not overpowered because he is. |
Arethusa_Vespera said: oh right! How can I forgot that both shows had the same composer, no wonder they feels so similar.Jfs_ said: Another great episode. And that piano ost in the background kinda reminds me of tokyo ghoul, both has that similar piano ost kinda thing (lol) Fun fact: the music composer for VS, Yutaka Yamada, is the same person that did the music for Tokyo Ghoul. |
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245678 said: Can anyone tell me if this episode was filler like last week or followed the manga right? First half is anime original, second half where the old lady and her daughter found and save Thorfinn is from manga (chapter 17 if I remember correctly). |
| Very nice and symbolic episode!The feels were real. Can someone clarify me this? Is there no blood on Thorfinn's knife after he kills the soldiers? Because his sword looks crystal clear even after killing someone. Or is it because I watched it in 360p?(Shitty net couldnt help it) |
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v_max said: Very nice and symbolic episode!The feels were real. Can someone clarify me this? Is there no blood on Thorfinn's knife after he kills the soldiers? Because his sword looks crystal clear even after killing someone. Or is it because I watched it in 360p?(Shitty net couldnt help it) When he stab the soldier who pinned him down there was blood then again you can see him swing his daggers many times, after that when he put up a fighting stance cuz 2 more soldiers going to attack him his daggers had no blood anymore. |
| Its sad to see that Thorfinn can't even move forward to love that he got. His first kill made him lust for more. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| Absolutely fantastic episode, minus some bad 3D CGI. |
| great episode! finally we get to see thorfinn grow up a little.. waited for this since ep.3 i think its good thorfinn couldn't return affection to them, its just show how broken he is which makes him even more cool plus its good for the series, it would be lame if he wasnt broken.. his first kill was nice not particularly accurate but good.. I'd really wanna see what have become of ylva though. i know the series isn't supposed to focus on her but she was introduced as such a strong and loved character that you cant forget her. |
| Animation quality seems to have drooped a bit in this one, but they definitely made up for it in directing. That last scene where Thorfinn and the old woman both disappear into the crowd in different ways, and the final shot of the comb. Also, someone please give Shizuka Ishigami an award for young Thorfinn. I'm guessing that Yuuto Uemura is taking over the role now, is that right? If it is, he's got some pretty big shoes to fill |
| This has to be the best episode from the series so far. Even though we only had less than 10 minutes of interaction of Thorfinn and the old lady, it was heartbreaking in the end when she cried. I hope Thorfinn will carry that image to his grave. Also, did she break the comb? Or was it stepped on? |
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Niello said: Years. He's pretty much train every moment he's awake and has the chance, if not in actual battle. Also heavily implied to inherit inhuman strength/skill from his father. I hope the anime will dwell into the inhuman power of the bloodline then. |
| i see thorfinn and i burst into tears send tweet |
| moe moe ichijou seiya |
| A great episode. Lots of fighting and bodies dropping everywhere. Such a hard life for Thorfinn on the battlefield. Great to see him improving his fighting skills. You can tell he doesn't really want to do this but has no choice. Can't wait to see how he is further developed as a character. |
| Thorfin is broken as both a human being and as a believable character. Bullshit he kills all those dudes that easy. |
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