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Jun 17, 2019 4:49 PM
#101
Scud said: Mate you can literally use that same logic against gay pride. What's there to be proud of? Having a different sexual orientation and being "tough" since they struggled? Why don't we have a homeless pride parade then? There are plenty of homeless vets and middle aged people in the streets that have certainly struggled just as hard, where's their parade? There is literally no reason for only gays to have the privilege of a parade. What is there to be proud of? May as well be proud of having lungs. |
Jun 17, 2019 4:50 PM
#102
I'm very happy about it. I see no reason to have an LGBT parade but not a straight parade. Seems rather exclusionary. DiscoDespot said: And this.The only parade I would march in would be a Lolicon pride parade since lolicons are still misunderstood and oppressed. |
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Jun 17, 2019 4:51 PM
#103
deg said: No idea what "scientific studies standards" you're going from but something from 10 years ago is outdated in any institution and not very credible [Especially when there has been a notable change in the past 5 years]. I'm not going to go search on the internet to find you a better source, go find one yourself if you want it to prove your point.Cneq said: deg said: Cneq said: deg said: "still needed due to still having less rights for those gays" MATE LOL Literally the entirety of the west is at a all time high for gay acceptance, unprecedented in fact. Why have a pride parade in a place where this is no discrimination? It is mostly happening overseas, why not go to those countries and do it then? Straight people are actually being discriminated against in the west right now, so why do they not have a equal right to do the same? Can you see how much of a contradiction it is to say straight people shouldn't have a parade? A quick answer to see why people think straight people shouldn't have a pride parade is due to a deep rooted bias that anything relating to straight people is right wing and therefore bad since it's been slammed by mainstream media for the past 5 years. Anyone who can actually think for themselves for a second and not let mainstream media or anything else influence their opinion would see it is perfectly OK to have a straight pride parade.why celebrate something so common or so normal? lol meanwhile those gay pride stuff are still needed due to still having less rights for those gays like most countries do not yet accept gay marriage for example this is not just coming from the muh bias media but your government agencies too like this one https://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/stigma-and-discrimination.htm Gay and bisexual youth and other sexual minorities are more likely to be rejected by their families. This increases the possibility of them becoming homeless. Around 40% of homeless youth are LGBT. A study published in 2009 compared gay, lesbian, and bisexual young adults who experienced strong rejection from their families with their peers who had more supportive families. The researchers found that those who experienced stronger rejection were about: 8 times more likely to have tried to commit suicide 6 times more likely to report high levels of depression 3 times more likely to use illegal drugs 3 times more likely to have risky sex 2009 is still recent by scientific studies standards of time same with government funded studies like census or surveys and im sure the fact that they still not provide up to date study about it means the data they collected is still very much relevant but if you can provide much updated counter studies against this one then sure i concede |
Jun 17, 2019 5:18 PM
#104
Alot of negativity here in this thread... Personally as long as it brings people together, I'm ok with it. Is good to see people come together, express their sexuality and being themselves. |
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Jun 17, 2019 5:24 PM
#105
Scud said: Hey Hey Hey!!What is there to be proud of? May as well be proud of having lungs. We'll have none of that here. Be happy something saw fit to bless you with two beautifully pinkish-grey lungs that work. COPD and Asthma suck, especially when it comes to smoking. jk You're right though |
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Jun 17, 2019 6:13 PM
#106
Aldnox said: AND ALLLLLL OF THIS. I would rather be gay and get disowned + electrocuted by Mike Pence than come out as a loli meister.DiscoDespot said: And this.The only parade I would march in would be a Lolicon pride parade since lolicons are still misunderstood and oppressed. |
Jun 17, 2019 6:13 PM
#107
Looks like no one did any research. Pride parades started as a type of rights movement not as a celebration. https://www.history.com/news/how-activists-plotted-the-first-gay-pride-parades In the majority of the US states there is no protections for LGBT to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their homes. https://www.freedomforallamericans.org/states/ There is no federal laws that explicitly ban LGBT discrimination either https://time.com/5554531/equality-act-lgbt-rights-trump/ The straight pride parade is not sincerely about inclusivity. It's literally just trolling to make a statement against identity politics while hypocritically spouting more identity politics as it's basis of reasoning on why it should be done. So it just makes them look stupid. |
Jun 17, 2019 6:48 PM
#108
traed said: I don't agree that any group, be it gay or straight, black or white, you name it, should be protected. Also what would prevent a law like this from being abused by people who were genuinely fired for being bad at their job and who happen to be LGBT? This already happens even without such laws.In the majority of the US states there is no protections for LGBT to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their homes. https://www.freedomforallamericans.org/states/ |
Jun 17, 2019 7:01 PM
#109
I'm pretty sure Milo only want that for some new spicy memes and butthurt leftwing. |
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Jun 17, 2019 7:13 PM
#110
Aldnox said: traed said: I don't agree that any group, be it gay or straight, black or white, you name it, should be protected. Also what would prevent a law like this from being abused by people who were genuinely fired for being bad at their job and who happen to be LGBT? This already happens even without such laws.In the majority of the US states there is no protections for LGBT to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their homes. https://www.freedomforallamericans.org/states/ Do you really want to be banned from work and kicked out of your home and denied emergency medical treatment because you watch anime? |
Jun 17, 2019 7:42 PM
#111
I will be so very happy when Skynet comes and we ascend to a higher plane of existence. It is a wonder we actually made it this far when humanity spends 97% of its efforts and energy towards its primal sexuality. So much so, that most of you couldn't even fathom an existence devoid of sexuality, even if you are not sexually active. On that day we shall realize a true meritocracy and many imbalances shall be purged. Forever. I sure will miss the monster girls and anthros tho. ;_; |
Jun 17, 2019 7:49 PM
#112
as observe by many already the moderators are lax on enforcing the strict rules now that the forum is dying but as you can see controversial topics like this really makes the forum activity alive |
Jun 17, 2019 8:23 PM
#113
You lost me at "Milo Yiannopoulos" ........ |
Jun 17, 2019 9:11 PM
#114
Setsuei said: You lost me at "Milo Yiannopoulos" ........ Lol. Milo is just a step ahead in the game. If you want all the magnificent cock for yourself, then you need to be a champion for all the cocks. It is like reverse virtue signaling, of which I do believe he is a pioneer of. I mean, it is unfortunate all the good, masculine men are straight. >;3 ( I thought one of the most frequent gay fantasies was blowing a reluctant straight guy gay) |
Jun 17, 2019 9:45 PM
#115
shotz said: What about them? I'm perfectly fine with them.Aldnox said: what about ppl who are good at their jobs and want to eat but just can't help but like sucking cock?traed said: In the majority of the US states there is no protections for LGBT to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their homes. https://www.freedomforallamericans.org/states/ traed said: No. I don't support discrimination. I asked what would prevent such a law from being abused.Aldnox said: traed said: In the majority of the US states there is no protections for LGBT to be fired from their jobs or evicted from their homes. https://www.freedomforallamericans.org/states/ Do you really want to be banned from work and kicked out of your home and denied emergency medical treatment because you watch anime? deg said: Actually I think some moderators are a bit too happy about locking threads and hiding behind vaguely defined rules to excuse it.as observe by many already the moderators are lax on enforcing the strict rules now that the forum is dying but as you can see controversial topics like this really makes the forum activity alive |
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Jun 17, 2019 10:43 PM
#116
Aldnox said: No. I don't support discrimination. I asked what would prevent such a law from being abused. So you admit that lack of such legal protections can be abused. What some places have is a just cause needed for doing a certain act to someone. It's not perfect but it may be of use. Also as far as entry into an apartment complex or job or something some places just require certain things can't be asked on application that would be used as basis of certain types of discrimination at least in cases where it's irrelevant. |
Jun 17, 2019 10:54 PM
#117
Obviously this is useless and a troll. Straight pride parade... lmao. Sounds like a parade for snowflakes. "Mom, they have their pride parade. What about meeee?" |
iasuruJun 17, 2019 11:08 PM
Jun 17, 2019 11:21 PM
#118
traed said: That's not what I meant. I said a law "protecting" LGBT people from being fired could be abused by using LGBT as an excuse to prevent underperforming people from being fired.Aldnox said: No. I don't support discrimination. I asked what would prevent such a law from being abused. So you admit that lack of such legal protections can be abused. What some places have is a just cause needed for doing a certain act to someone. It's not perfect but it may be of use. Also as far as entry into an apartment complex or job or something some places just require certain things can't be asked on application that would be used as basis of certain types of discrimination at least in cases where it's irrelevant. |
Jun 18, 2019 12:27 AM
#119
Aldnox said: traed said: That's not what I meant. I said a law "protecting" LGBT people from being fired could be abused by using LGBT as an excuse to prevent underperforming people from being fired.Aldnox said: No. I don't support discrimination. I asked what would prevent such a law from being abused. So you admit that lack of such legal protections can be abused. What some places have is a just cause needed for doing a certain act to someone. It's not perfect but it may be of use. Also as far as entry into an apartment complex or job or something some places just require certain things can't be asked on application that would be used as basis of certain types of discrimination at least in cases where it's irrelevant. If a just cause is given they can still fire them or whatever it may be. |
Jun 18, 2019 12:43 AM
#120
That's probably the stupidest idea I've heard all year. Thank you anime database website. Glad to see everything is looking totally normal in here as always |
Jun 18, 2019 12:44 AM
#121
Rowan_F said: That's probably the stupidest idea I've heard all year. Thank you anime database website. Glad to see everything is looking totally normal in here as always Why don't we celebrate how straight we are. I'll provide the beer and the hookers. |
Jun 18, 2019 1:13 AM
#122
even i, as big of a wreck as I am, have something better to do with my life and time than to care about this shit. |
Oh maybe, maybe it's the clothes we wear The tasteless bracelets and the dye in our hair Or maybe, maybe it's our nowhere towns or our nothing places But we're trash, you and me We're the litter on the breeze We're the lovers on the streets Just trash, me and you It's in everything we do It's in everything we do |
Jun 18, 2019 1:17 AM
#123
Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 |
Jun 18, 2019 1:25 AM
#124
Straight people don't need 'pride' because nobody is telling them to feel ashamed. This is a fascist project, or at the very least leaning in that direction. |
Jun 18, 2019 1:27 AM
#125
logopolis said: Straight people don't need 'pride' because nobody is telling them to feel ashamed. This is a fascist project, or at the very least leaning in that direction. Calm down. Calling this a fascist project is quite an over reaction |
Jun 18, 2019 1:36 AM
#126
Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. do share, dear sir, all the oh-so horrible oppression straights have been withstanding for as long as lgbt people have |
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Jun 18, 2019 1:41 AM
#127
iasuru said: logopolis said: Straight people don't need 'pride' because nobody is telling them to feel ashamed. This is a fascist project, or at the very least leaning in that direction. Calm down. Calling this a fascist project is quite an over reaction Perfectly calm. I merely have a pretty good understanding of the 'alt-right', so I know what they're doing here. |
Jun 18, 2019 1:43 AM
#128
Lunafleurette said: Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. do share, dear sir, all the oh-so horrible oppression straights have been withstanding for as long as lgbt people have The gay people spilled hot coffee on the straight people. |
Jun 18, 2019 1:50 AM
#129
KindUnicorn said: Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 |
Jun 18, 2019 1:54 AM
#130
Lunafleurette said: You must be missing the point that activism for LGBT [or this entire climate in the last 5 years] is the reason oppression of straights has begun to happen, it's tipped the balance, not made equality. And oppression is oppression, the amount of time it has happened for is irrelevant. If somehow gays just started being oppressed in the last decade would that make you think it's less bad despite the same things happening? Not sure about you but I'd say that would be madness.Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. do share, dear sir, all the oh-so horrible oppression straights have been withstanding for as long as lgbt people have |
Jun 18, 2019 1:57 AM
#131
iasuru said: Lunafleurette said: Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. do share, dear sir, all the oh-so horrible oppression straights have been withstanding for as long as lgbt people have The gay people spilled hot coffee on the straight people. oh yikes that is pretty bad, it's 2019 the hot drink to spill is tea |
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Jun 18, 2019 1:57 AM
#132
Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 So if it's on the rise, how many percent of it has increased. Nice rooshy.com opinion article btw. Those are very hard, true facts. |
Jun 18, 2019 1:59 AM
#133
Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:00 AM
#134
iasuru said: I literally took 5 minutes on google to round up information, if you want something more credible go research it yourself. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 So if it's on the rise, how many percent of it has increased. Nice rooshy.com opinion article btw. Those are very hard, true facts. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:01 AM
#135
Kayn said: So being proud of anything and starting a parade for it requires you to be imprisoned, sentenced to death yada yada yada to be allowed to exist? Nice logic.Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:03 AM
#136
Cneq said: iasuru said: I literally took 5 minutes on google to round up information, if you want something more credible go research it yourself. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 So if it's on the rise, how many percent of it has increased. Nice rooshy.com opinion article btw. Those are very hard, true facts. OK, then post here. So everyone can see this heterophobia you are talking about. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:06 AM
#137
iasuru said: I said I spent 5 minutes rounding up the articles you had a issue with before, I'm not going to go get more information for you. Like I said if you want to dig deeper that's up to you. Cneq said: iasuru said: Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 So if it's on the rise, how many percent of it has increased. Nice rooshy.com opinion article btw. Those are very hard, true facts. OK, then post here. So everyone can see this heterophobia you are talking about. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:11 AM
#138
Cneq said: iasuru said: I said I spent 5 minutes rounding up the articles you had a issue with before, I'm not going to go get more information for you. Like I said if you want to dig deeper that's up to you. Cneq said: iasuru said: I literally took 5 minutes on google to round up information, if you want something more credible go research it yourself. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 So if it's on the rise, how many percent of it has increased. Nice rooshy.com opinion article btw. Those are very hard, true facts. OK, then post here. So everyone can see this heterophobia you are talking about. I'm asking for the figure that oppression of straight people is rising up. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:13 AM
#139
If I were to use the same logic that people accuse others as being "homophobic", Isn't being against a straight pride parade basically heterophobic? If someone is against a pride parade, that person is automatically "oppressing" gays, according to most people. So why is it alright to be against a straight pride parade? Just because straight people shouldn't have equal ability to have a parade? No idea if I'm missing something here but a straight pride parade being such a contested topic speaks wonders by itself as unequal views about straights. Like I've always been accepting of anyone doing anything. I live strongly by the words "whatever floats your boat" as long as it doesn't harm others and adheres by basic human morality I think anyone should be able to express themselves. So why should straight people be treated any different? |
CneqJun 18, 2019 2:19 AM
Jun 18, 2019 2:14 AM
#140
iasuru said: Like I said the articles I linked didn't have a figure, if you want more information go research it. With the issue being so recent there obviously hasn't been enough time for credible case studies to be conducted [which is where you'll get your figures from]. Cneq said: iasuru said: Cneq said: iasuru said: I literally took 5 minutes on google to round up information, if you want something more credible go research it yourself. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 So if it's on the rise, how many percent of it has increased. Nice rooshy.com opinion article btw. Those are very hard, true facts. OK, then post here. So everyone can see this heterophobia you are talking about. I'm asking for the figure that oppression of straight people is rising up. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:15 AM
#141
Cneq said: Kayn said: So being proud of anything and starting a parade for it requires you to be imprisoned, sentenced to death yada yada yada to be allowed to exist? Nice logic.Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense. You seem to be missing the point of pride all together. More than a parade, it was, an to some extend still is, a riot. I see no reason for the heteros to riot. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:18 AM
#142
Kayn said: So you're saying pride parades are about rebelling and showing anger for their oppression? Not for expressing their pride of being gay and showing others it's okay? That sounds a lot different than what LGBT people usually advertise with their parades. Unless you're meaning of "riot" is different than mineCneq said: Kayn said: Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense. You seem to be missing the point of pride all together. More than a parade, it was, an to some extend is, a riot. I see no reason for the heteros to riot. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:23 AM
#143
Cneq said: Kayn said: So being proud of anything and starting a parade for it requires you to be imprisoned, sentenced to death yada yada yada to be allowed to exist? Nice logic.Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense. As I stated before people should be proud of their accomplishments and not their gender, sexual orientation, country, favorite sports team etc.. Gay pride is more about being a symbol of liberation of gay people then anything else kinda like 8 march being a female symbol of liberation or Black Month being a symbol of African-American liberation etc. And no don't tell me few edgy comments and tweets are comparable to being thrown off buildings, fired from job, disowned by family, imprisoned etc... So having a st8 parade would be not only pointless but also insulting to all the people who went through genuine oppression. It would also encourage more homophobic, alt-right, and radical religious fundamentalist groups as they would feel embolden by such move. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:25 AM
#144
KindUnicorn said: Please link me some sources of gay people in the last 7 years being thrown off buildings and imprisoned for being gay in western countries. And no idea if you even read my articles but most were about straight people being laid off from jobs. Cneq said: Kayn said: Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense. As I stated before people should be proud of their accomplishments and not their gender, sexual orientation, country, favorite sports team etc.. Gay pride is more about being a symbol of liberation of gay people then anything else kinda like 8 march being a female symbol of liberation or Black Month being a symbol of African-American liberation etc. And no don't tell me few edgy comments and tweets are comparable to being thrown off buildings, fired from job, disowned by family, imprisoned etc... So having a st8 parade would be not only pointless but also insulting to all the people who went through genuine oppression. It would also encourage more homophobic, alt-right, and radical religious fundamentalist groups as they would feel embolden by such move. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:27 AM
#145
Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 2 & 5: Nasty opinion articles. 4: I can't read it. 3: >"after she posted an anti-LGBTQ comment on Facebook" >"O’Daniel’s suit said she was fired because she is a heterosexual woman" HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA I'd take 1 though, everybody knows that elite sports have always been super inclusive and pushing of LGBTQ identities, so obviously a case like Candace Wiggins is the norm there. /s Fucking pathetic. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:30 AM
#146
jal90 said: Seeing as I was giving sources to someone who uses buzzfeed as a "credible" source I honestly don't see any problem given the 5 minutes it took to grab these [not to mention half their sources being on a topic I never disagreed on in the first place]. No point in putting in more effort if someone else isn't going to do the same. If you want to spend longer looking go aheadCneq said: KindUnicorn said: Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 2 & 5: Nasty opinion articles. 4: I can't read it. 3: >"after she posted an anti-LGBTQ comment on Facebook" >"O’Daniel’s suit said she was fired because she is a heterosexual woman" HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA I'd take 1 though, everybody knows that elite sports have always been super inclusive and pushing of LGBTQ identities, so obviously a case like Candice Wiggins is the norm there. /s Fucking pathetic. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:37 AM
#147
A straight pride parade could work... In an alternate reality. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:42 AM
#148
Cneq said: jal90 said: Seeing as I was giving sources to someone who uses buzzfeed as a "credible" source I honestly don't see any problem given the 5 minutes it took to grab these [not to mention half their sources being on a topic I never disagreed on in the first place]. No point in putting in more effort if someone else isn't going to do the same. If you want to spend longer looking go aheadCneq said: KindUnicorn said: Gay people in the middle east and other 3rd world countries are certainly being treated poorly, I didn't once deny this so no need to go and pull out a bunch of articles about it. No idea if I said this before but I was only speaking on the topic of western countries and how they treat gays. Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: "discriminated and oppressed for centuries" Straight people are certainly being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Being the majority doesn't mean you can't be discriminated against. Thinking that's true goes against all logic and makes literally 0 sense.xaow said: so just because you're part of a majority means you shouldn't be proud of yourself? RobertBobert said: Obviously, this whole undertaking is nothing but a rather poorly veiled trolling. Something at the level of Satanism and paganism as a provocation to Christianity and religious fundamentalists among the metal groups. First of all, what evidence are you using to make this claim? Have you seen milo's interview with the event organizers he livestreamed today? Have you been to the organizers website? Second of all, let's assume you're correct. Does that mean it's wrong or that the parade/movement should be censored? That parade represents symbol of their liberation from oppression, since st8 people were not being discriminated and oppressed for centuries it would be pointless to have a st8 parade. "Citation needed" What evidence do you have that st8 people are being discriminated against in the past 7 years or so. Gay people are being discriminated even now as we speak in middle east and russia and many other countries. Things have been better in west recently only thanks to activism, but even in west they still face discrimination and prejudice from religious conservatives and edgy right-wingers in general. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East https://thinkprogress.org/15-examples-of-anti-gay-discrimination-conservatives-want-to-preserve-597e54585a23/ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/house-passes-equality-act-lgbt-rights-discrimination https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2018/01/18/445130/discrimination-prevents-lgbtq-people-accessing-health-care/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/how-catholic-alt-right-aims-purge-homosexuals-church-n934681 Straight people being discriminated against is certainly on the rise and the push of activism may of sought equality, but now it's been pushed in the opposite direction. Equality can't be won by making the other side unequal, not that hard to understand. Soruces: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/feb/21/candace-wiggins-stanford-university-basketball https://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia https://www.reuters.com/article/legal-us-otc-titlevii/hetero-employees-cant-claim-reverse-discrimination-when-federal-law-doesnt-shield-gays-lesbians-judge-idUSKBN1EX246 https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/a-straight-case-of-discrimination-lawsuits-come-in-all-shades-for-us-institutions/413172.article https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/may/01/gayrights.features11 2 & 5: Nasty opinion articles. 4: I can't read it. 3: >"after she posted an anti-LGBTQ comment on Facebook" >"O’Daniel’s suit said she was fired because she is a heterosexual woman" HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA I'd take 1 though, everybody knows that elite sports have always been super inclusive and pushing of LGBTQ identities, so obviously a case like Candice Wiggins is the norm there. /s Fucking pathetic. I'm not going to get into a war of sources but next time you try to show the "rise of heterophobia" don't give: 1. Opinion articles. 2. A supposed case of "a woman being fired because she's heterosexual" when she posted bigoted shit in Facebook, which was apparently the reason she was fired, not being heterosexual (that is her narrative). 3. The only seemingly legit story being that of the basketball player. Elite sports is not exactly the most LGBT-inclusive environment 99.9% of the time, you know. |
Jun 18, 2019 2:45 AM
#149
Jun 18, 2019 2:46 AM
#150
Cneq said: KindUnicorn said: Please link me some sources of gay people in the last 7 years being thrown off buildings and imprisoned for being gay in western countries. And no idea if you even read my articles but most were about straight people being laid off from jobs. Cneq said: Kayn said: So being proud of anything and starting a parade for it requires you to be imprisoned, sentenced to death yada yada yada to be allowed to exist? Nice logic.Straighties were never imprisoned/sentenced to death/thrown off buildings because of their sexuality, therefore Straight Pride makes absolutely no sense. As I stated before people should be proud of their accomplishments and not their gender, sexual orientation, country, favorite sports team etc.. Gay pride is more about being a symbol of liberation of gay people then anything else kinda like 8 march being a female symbol of liberation or Black Month being a symbol of African-American liberation etc. And no don't tell me few edgy comments and tweets are comparable to being thrown off buildings, fired from job, disowned by family, imprisoned etc... So having a st8 parade would be not only pointless but also insulting to all the people who went through genuine oppression. It would also encourage more homophobic, alt-right, and radical religious fundamentalist groups as they would feel embolden by such move. Gay pride month isn't just about them being oppressed now in the west it is about them escaping and overcoming centuries of systematic oppression all around the world. And few questionable isolated cases are not the same as millennia worth of systematic oppression |
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