Shingeki no Kyojin Season 3 Part 2 Episode 6 Discussion

DupeusT31 said:
You better check the manga again. He clearly tears in his eyes when Hange was about to kill him and when he noticed Bertolt hadn't been rescued.

Zoroft said:
Wow the 1/10 votes jumped by another 80 votes. To give you a clue on how much effect 80 1/10 votes can have. If AoT had the usual 0.3% 1/10 votes like fmab or stein's gate instead of 1%, it would be at 9.22 instead of 9.16.

keragamming said:


I have been looking at the stats too and it currently has the highest 10/10 votes in terms of percentage with 52% and I was saying to myself it should be higher than 9.16.

imo 1/10 is 99% use for hating/downvote. Mal should secretly exclude 1/10 votes, like shadow banning 1/10 from the ratings without the knowledge of all the users that way they waste their times down voting when in reality it has no real effect on the series.

Mattinator95 said:



most of those 1/10 are MHA / FMA / One piece fanboys

Transcendence said:
~ A friend told me armin died on the manga? ... ~

~ If he died there then did Erwin became the titan? ... ~

Zoroft said:
@Esquirtit

I mean some people are more ok with offing people in their way than others, like Armin was able to shoot the girl who had her gun pointed at Jean instantly while Jean couldn't so that suggests a difference between Jean and Armin there. Jean cares more about the sake of others than anyone else in the series. I would suggest you read the manga for Season 3 part 1 instead of watching it, it's much better and you can see where the characters are coming from a lot better. Like Eren's guiilt about all the people who got killed to rescue him is established a lot more clearly, he didn't need Jean to come up to him to say something about it. The manga showed him looking at all the injured scouts being transported up the wall and you could see it in his eye, later he asks how many people are left. At that point he was having 2nd thoughts about his role, if he was worth the cost of all those lives. There's also Historia who couldn't believe she was left by her bff like that, and you could see where her talk of being tired of playing the good girl role came from. Eren and Historia also had some moments where they related to each other as Eren saw Historia was just as unsuure about what to do as he was.

While we knew Mikasa cared for Armin, I think here we got to see the extent that she does.

Zoroft said:
Wow the 1/10 votes jumped by another 80 votes. To give you a clue on how much effect 80 1/10 votes can have. If AoT had the usual 0.3% 1/10 votes like fmab or stein's gate instead of 1%, it would be at 9.22 instead of 9.16.

Esquirtit said:


I'll read the manga from the beginning when the anime has adapted everything. I don't like switching now. My complaints are very tame even if I worded it too harshly, I just think some characters could've easily been a lot better. I'm sure they'll improve. As for Jean, I think I'm never going to like him with his shitty decision making, even if I know it's part of his character and not a flaw in the writing.

Chickened said:


I don't think its Jean's fault that Reiner got away and lived.
I think on the contrary he was being very reasonable with his idea to not kill Reiner so soon.

Hange was acting too rash based on the event she lived through seeing countless comrades die suddenly in an instant. The idea to not kill him was not based on a petty reason like: "Maybe we can get answers from Reiner if we keep interrogating him for a while." or something like: "Maybe we should keep Reiner hostage and bring him back within the walls so we can experiment on him." Really, just a couple of episodes ago, he was one of the most relieved characters thinking Reiner was finally dead. Jean didn't have a problem with Reiner dying. He just wanted for Reiner's death to not be in vain considering Erwin's plan with the Titan-shifting injection. They all knew the process of becoming a titan shifter and so, by killing Reiner when he's a hostage, they would be wasting a crucial opportunity.

Bertholdt was another candidate to make someone be a titan shifter, but no one except Eren and Armin knew about Berthodt's condition and whether he was dead or still alive. That's why Hange settled down and took full responsibility for Reiner's life. She planned on ending his life one way or another soon after Mikasa notified her of the situation regarding the other Scouts, Levi, Eren, Armin, and Bertholdt.

Hange or anyone from their side of the walls had no idea about any other possible Titan being around other than Reiner/Bertholdt.
That type of titan that came by to save Reiner was completely unexpected for them. By thinking that Jean's character is purely about bad decisions, then is saving Hange not a big step against that notion? He saved her life when he could have hesitated and only think for himself.

I find it unfair to place blame onto Jean like as if he's behaving or thinking for the worst as a character.

Esquirtit said:
@Weebover9000 Yeah but we all know he wasn't going to do anything anyway lol. What I mean is that they didn't have the control of the situation at all. Connie was on the lookout and didn't hear or notice him at all until the last few secs? That's just Reiner's plot armor though, and I don't think him being taken away is a much of a problem as some say.

Eyal_Oged said:


That's a lot, take it easy there, start by questioning it in case there is more than what you can see.

I'll explain. This is a common thing. The general audience tends not to care much about sense as long as it's entertaining, and it does raise a question that if it's fun then why should we think?

And the answer I've got to that is that once you start considering things this way, while we watch, we don't just sit back, we think of all possible options for the upcoming future in the show and plot options run in our head, experiencing it like the characters. It affects the way we feel about things. It makes things affect me much more, as in, ye people get super hype, but I think the feelings I started getting are much deeper, I bail my eyes out for example, like wouldn't happen before, and the depth to which I understand them many times makes them stay with me for a lot longer and follow me in my thoughts and actually serve as support when I try to understand things in my life, they can remind me feelings or conclusions I felt from experiencing the story and help me understand, while before I started being like that I would get hype but forget the things I was hyped about easily - cause most of what I had was just hype.
The hype went in the same pace that it came. No buildup, no depth, no stay.

Stories aren't just entertainment - they convey emotions and thoughts,. If we feel a show doesn't treat that seriously, we want to look for something else to watch

Besides - after watching a lot of anime, I would actually feel kinda bad for someone who just watches bullshit anybody could make up that's all the same ol nonsense no thinking behind this no innovation or anything mind opening - and just sit there and watch it mindlessly the same way he watched the first one. At some point you've seen too much of this and you want more and you can't take it seriously when you realize you're seeing the same shit painted with different colors.