[For non-manga readers] Basement Reveal - Predictions

Pragyan1 said:
I've kinda lost interest in AOT now that they are just making things up as they progress the story. Like what the hell is the Coordinate power? Seems like a convenient plot device to me. I wasn't really happy with the titan shifting powers either but I accepted it and now they expect me to believe that Eren has the power to control titans? I call BS.

So about the basement, it's probably gonna be some weird made up shit like how titans are humanities' experiment gone wrong or something.

ABDoesThings said:
Then I don't know what sort of plot points you're looking for in a story. If the Coordinate was a device for plot, then practically all the popular mystery shows just use convenient plot devices.

Pragyan1 said:


I don't see any plot devices in Berserk, Monster, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Mushishi etc. My point is that there should've been some sort of foreshadowing, some kind of hint that a convenient power like "coordinate" exists. Like there has been a lot of foreshadowing for the basement, thus it feels more like a necessity for plot progression than a plot device to haphazardly further the story.

ABDoesThings said:
"Convenient" is a matter of perspective unique to you and not other people. As far as I know, the power of the coordinate is so convenient that Eren has only been able to use it once. What a convenient power.

Pragyan1 said:


I don't see any plot devices in Berserk, Monster, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Mushishi etc. My point is that there should've been some sort of foreshadowing, some kind of hint that a convenient power like "coordinate" exists. Like there has been a lot of foreshadowing for the basement, thus it feels more like a necessity for plot progression than a plot device to haphazardly further the story.

Pragyan1 said:


It's convenient because it was never introduced or even hinted upon and it ended up saving Eren and Mikasa from a life or death situation. I liked it more when there weren't any titan shifters and humans fought with ODM gear instead of duking it out like some Dragon Ball Z characters.

Ayann said:

Not all anime have similar ways of presenting the plot. but if you think there's no foreshadowing of this coordinate power, you are wrong, from the first season, why do think the titan shifters watched over eren from the very first day of training? Why do they want to have eren that much? ..alive?

Pragyan1 said:
I've kinda lost interest in AOT now that they are just making things up as they progress the story. Like what the hell is the Coordinate power? Seems like a convenient plot device to me. I wasn't really happy with the titan shifting powers either but I accepted it and now they expect me to believe that Eren has the power to control titans? I call BS.

So about the basement, it's probably gonna be some weird made up shit like how titans are humanities' experiment gone wrong or something.

Tiago_Cunha said:


actually they didnt know eren had that power at that time bro....
they maybe just wanted his titan power

keragamming said:


Manga reader here, not going to spoil about the basement, Just going to show you this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Ay1yunM0w&t=58s

The coordinate was foreshadowed, just read between the lines, "Recapture wall maria and make it to the basement no matter what, at that time, this power will aid you, I'm sure their memories will teach you how to use it."

If you read his dialogue carefully you will realise that he is not referring about his titan shifting power as he clearly said, after Eren make it to the basement, that is the time this power will aid you, aka the coordinate their memories will teach you how to use it.

Snk has a lot of subtle foreshadowing in it, which makes it a good rewatch value, its easy to miss these details, most folks thought it was about his titan shifting powers.

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There is his answer to the coordinate not having any foreshadowing, right now Eren doesn't know how to use it.

@Ayann
That is actually another foreshadowing, but he wanted something more concrete, so I gave him the above one.

Pragyan1 said:
I've kinda lost interest in AOT now that they are just making things up as they progress the story. Like what the hell is the Coordinate power? Seems like a convenient plot device to me. I wasn't really happy with the titan shifting powers either but I accepted it and now they expect me to believe that Eren has the power to control titans? I call BS.

So about the basement, it's probably gonna be some weird made up shit like how titans are humanities' experiment gone wrong or something.

Pragyan1 said:
I've kinda lost interest in AOT now that they are just making things up as they progress the story. Like what the hell is the Coordinate power? Seems like a convenient plot device to me. I wasn't really happy with the titan shifting powers either but I accepted it and now they expect me to believe that Eren has the power to control titans? I call BS.

So about the basement, it's probably gonna be some weird made up shit like how titans are humanities' experiment gone wrong or something.

Funseco said:
Back in 2013 there was a fake "leaked basement reveal"

"The titans were created over a hundred years ago as a weapon against humanity by Dr. Kichirou Moto. His motivation was revenge for his murdered wife and son from religious zealots that did not like the fact that Dr. Kichirou Moto was conducting research that could be viewed as being sacrilegious. On the night of the murder, Dr. Kichirou Moto home was set on fire by a religious group in the hopes of killing Dr. Moto. Unfortunately for the zealots, Dr. Kichirou Moto was still at his laboratory conducting research throughout the night. Upon returning home, Dr. Kichirou Moto watched in horror as his house burnt to the ground with religious zealots surrounding it. He knew that if he approached them it would mean certain death and he could no longer obtain revenge for his murdered family. He went into exile and constructed a hidden laboratory so that he could continue his research. He was able to develop a mutant potion that could be introduced into the water supply so that it would turn humans into enormous, but mindless killers. His justification for his actions was that humanity was becoming too religious and needed to be exterminated. In place of humanity, the doctor created a new race with individuals who were not a part of any religious order and who did not believe in the existence of a god. To avoid being killed by the titans that he created, he gave his followers as well as himself a potion that would allow them to shift into titan form that was many times stronger than normal titans.

These shape shifting titans built a base so that normal titans could not pose a danger to the shape shifting titans. Their goal was to wait within the walls until humans were all eliminated by the titans. This plan would allow the shape shifting titans to avoid battle with humans and thus saving them from losing lives on their already low numbers. The problem was that their hidden location was discovered by a sizable human army which could have meant the total destruction of these shape shifting titans. To avoid this, it was agreed that the shape shifting titans should stay in human form and relocate to a new location.

At the time, these shape shifting titans could not destroy the humans completely because they had well equipped and highly skilled fighters within their army. As time passed, humans began to take their titan threat less seriously so that their defense force were smaller in number and were less skilled. Sensing this weakness, the shape shifting titans decided it was the right time to attack and make an entrance for the regular titans.

Dr. Grisha Yeager is a shape shifter himself who fell in love with a non-shape shifter. Although Dr. Yeager is a shape shifter, he did not share the hate that his fellow shape shifters had for humanity. This is evident when he cured a plague that was befalling humanity. After the attacks on wall rose which he was not notified beforehand, he injected his son with the shape shifting potion so that he would not die as easily as his wife did."

Funseco said:
Back in 2013 there was a fake "leaked basement reveal"

"The titans were created over a hundred years ago as a weapon against humanity by Dr. Kichirou Moto. His motivation was revenge for his murdered wife and son from religious zealots that did not like the fact that Dr. Kichirou Moto was conducting research that could be viewed as being sacrilegious. On the night of the murder, Dr. Kichirou Moto home was set on fire by a religious group in the hopes of killing Dr. Moto. Unfortunately for the zealots, Dr. Kichirou Moto was still at his laboratory conducting research throughout the night. Upon returning home, Dr. Kichirou Moto watched in horror as his house burnt to the ground with religious zealots surrounding it. He knew that if he approached them it would mean certain death and he could no longer obtain revenge for his murdered family. He went into exile and constructed a hidden laboratory so that he could continue his research. He was able to develop a mutant potion that could be introduced into the water supply so that it would turn humans into enormous, but mindless killers. His justification for his actions was that humanity was becoming too religious and needed to be exterminated. In place of humanity, the doctor created a new race with individuals who were not a part of any religious order and who did not believe in the existence of a god. To avoid being killed by the titans that he created, he gave his followers as well as himself a potion that would allow them to shift into titan form that was many times stronger than normal titans.

These shape shifting titans built a base so that normal titans could not pose a danger to the shape shifting titans. Their goal was to wait within the walls until humans were all eliminated by the titans. This plan would allow the shape shifting titans to avoid battle with humans and thus saving them from losing lives on their already low numbers. The problem was that their hidden location was discovered by a sizable human army which could have meant the total destruction of these shape shifting titans. To avoid this, it was agreed that the shape shifting titans should stay in human form and relocate to a new location.

At the time, these shape shifting titans could not destroy the humans completely because they had well equipped and highly skilled fighters within their army. As time passed, humans began to take their titan threat less seriously so that their defense force were smaller in number and were less skilled. Sensing this weakness, the shape shifting titans decided it was the right time to attack and make an entrance for the regular titans.

Dr. Grisha Yeager is a shape shifter himself who fell in love with a non-shape shifter. Although Dr. Yeager is a shape shifter, he did not share the hate that his fellow shape shifters had for humanity. This is evident when he cured a plague that was befalling humanity. After the attacks on wall rose which he was not notified beforehand, he injected his son with the shape shifting potion so that he would not die as easily as his wife did."

Pragyan1 said:
I've kinda lost interest in AOT now that they are just making things up as they progress the story. Like what the hell is the Coordinate power? Seems like a convenient plot device to me. I wasn't really happy with the titan shifting powers either but I accepted it and now they expect me to believe that Eren has the power to control titans? I call BS.

So about the basement, it's probably gonna be some weird made up shit like how titans are humanities' experiment gone wrong or something.