About the basement reveal [No Spoilers]

Weebover9000 said:
Dont worry, the main reason a lot of people didnt like it and dropped it from there is because the story became more complex because of it and very, very different with a huge tonal shift, although imo, the basement reveal is such a big reveal that kind of thing should of been prepared for. You dont have to like it, but all the changes coming from it should at least be expected

crybabynes said:


So you mean that I might don't like that happening but it would be a huge plot twist?
If so, that's very welcoming, because many bad events happened in the series but it was part of the story.
I just thought that they didn't like it because the reveal itself is a weak writing but since it would change everything massively as I said it must be huge and smart from Isayama!

Thanks.

Weebover9000 said:
No problem, some do view it as a weak reveal, and hope the anime makes it more impactful, which it will due to the animation, voice acting, etc. Most of the Shingeki fanbase loved the basement reveal because of all the stuff that got explained however.

NakolHira said:
actually the story gets complicated...not a simple thing like killing titans.
I think you will like it just like most others,almost everything will be explained why the world is like this..the questions from previous seasons will also get solved.So don't worry,you'll like it.

crybabynes said:


Another question since you said there will be a huge tonal shit, is it similar to part 1 of S3? or different?
Because the first part of this season was really different from pervious seasons.
Sorry for asking again, I'm just worried as a huge SNK fan, and this arc has been excellent when it comes to the writing, I'm really enjoying it so much.

Weebover9000 said:


Very similar, but executed much better in comparison, like, a hundred times better imo

tzarye14 said:
A lot of people didn't like the basement because it was hard to swallow even tho everything was basically foreshadows in the manga (the anime is made even bigger foreshadow and fix some mistakes).
There's also just to much for you to understand in one read. While the anime is definitely gonna simplify some aspects I suggest rewatching the episodes so you catch everything.
It might also be troublesome to not have the next season coming out right after this one cause the explanations would help a lot.

ThatShiny_Hex said:
It's either you love the reveal or you hate the reveal. Huge tonal shift incoming, just like the uprising arc, that's why many people didn't like the reveal. Added this with the slow start of the next arc, some dropped the manga in between chapters 90 - 95 although the chapters were a huge buildup for the upcoming chapters. Chapter 100-105 discussion had like >85% giving 5/5

crybabynes said:


You mean the explanations will only come in Season 4? :(
I had already watched the entire seasons for multiple times, I even noticed many things I didn't in my first and second watch, one of them Eren's dream in the first episode I think I could tell 2 people I know were seen in a tragedy events in Eren's dream just like his mom and hannes as well as the other things like that King/Commander's uniform,dead scouts in the woods..etc I could tell that Eren would be present at those events.

Also, other foreshadowing stuff in S1 and S2 but no matter how hard I try I wouldn't understand until they reveal it to me.

About fixing mistakes, I was told that Isayama did an interview in which he said that he regrets a big thing he wrote in the manga and that he would fix it in season 3.i don't know what could it be.

tzarye14 said:
A lot of people didn't like the basement because it was hard to swallow even tho everything was basically foreshadows in the manga (the anime is made even bigger foreshadow and fix some mistakes).
There's also just to much for you to understand in one read. While the anime is definitely gonna simplify some aspects I suggest rewatching the episodes so you catch everything.
It might also be troublesome to not have the next season coming out right after this one cause the explanations would help a lot.

crybabynes said:

You mean the explanations will only come in Season 4? :(

crybabynes said:

About fixing mistakes, I was told that Isayama did an interview in which he said that he regrets a big thing he wrote in the manga and that he would fix it in season 3.i don't know what could it be.

Nim0174 said:
just a word of Advice
do not listen to people with a Mean Score of 3.81
coughCondemnecoughDiocough

DonTrumpolino said:
They just now reveal what they set up in the first season? What some cheapskates. And I bet the "shocking" reveal will have been foreseen for decades, for everyone with a basic understanding of movies.

-wut- said:
Around how many more episodes until the basement reveal?

CondemneDio said:

lol
Come talk to me when you've finished at least 100 anime, casual

Nim0174 said:


i can feel the salt in the air

crybabynes said:
I have been reading from some manga readers that they were disappointed by the basement reveal and tbh that scared me,
I'm only-anime so I don't want any spoilers, I just want to know if the basement reveal will worth all that waiting? will it be good enough or will it affect SNK negatively?
It could be a controversial reveal that some liked it and some disliked it but as far as I know some didn't like it, and I think that may have a bad feedback on the series, therefore, I just want to know what's the matter without spoiling it.
Especially we're only a few episodes before learning it.

crybabynes said:


You mean the explanations will only come in Season 4? :(
I had already watched the entire seasons for multiple times, I even noticed many things I didn't in my first and second watch, one of them Eren's dream in the first episode I think I could tell 2 people I know were seen in a tragedy events in Eren's dream just like his mom and hannes as well as the other things like that King/Commander's uniform,dead scouts in the woods..etc I could tell that Eren would be present at those events.

Also, other foreshadowing stuff in S1 and S2 but no matter how hard I try I wouldn't understand until they reveal it to me.

About fixing mistakes, I was told that Isayama did an interview in which he said that he regrets a big thing he wrote in the manga and that he would fix it in season 3.i don't know what could it be.

CondemneDio said:
It's not worth the wait in my opinion.
Totally ruins the story from that point onward.

CondemneDio said:
It's not worth the wait in my opinion.
Totally ruins the story from that point onward.

Nim0174 said:


No, Season 3 Part 2 will explain everything necessary about the World of AOT.
Its just Season 4 builts on top of that even further.
I loved everything, it only gets better IN MY OPINION.
Its written perfectly fine, so if someone doesn't like it, its just because they didn't like the tonal Shift.

Nim0174 said:
He did say that, but he was referring to Events in Season 3 Part 1.
Some changes i can remember:
For example Reeves suggested Historia to Punch Levi, not Mikasa.
Levi choked Historia for saying she doesnt want to be Queen.
I think some hardening Experiment Details were left out and also there were more Eren X Historia Ship Moments if i remember correctly.
PROBABLY A LOT MORE!

Not sure why exactly he didn't like S3P1 though.

Nourasque said:
Don’t worry about it. I can guarantee you that you’ll like it because, like me, and all the real AoT fans you seem really interested in the story itself and not the hype of the show. Most of my friends who didn’t like the reveal were only watching it because “it’s hype” and for the action and titan killing. Also when I asked them what would’ve been a better reveal, their answers were all some generic shonen plots where there is some vilian or something like the promised neverland. So to make it clear, attack on titan is not a generic shonen show. Some people thought it was because the first season give a bit of a shonen vibe, but that’s not it. There is nothing wrong in liking shonen animes with simple plot and a lot of hype moments, but don’t expect AoT to be that. If you do, then you’ll be disappointed by the reveal and you’ll be better off watching something like MHA. But if you’re into it because of the mystery and expect something well written and complex, then you’ll end up worshipping the story like me, someone who never been a “fan” of a show before, but this story really captured me with how deep and well written it is. Again, this story is more of a game of thrones than it is a my hero academia. There’s nothing wrong in liking a MHA type of anime, but criticizing AoT for something that it’s not is unfair. It’s like criticizing GoT because it’s not a Marvel show. Both are different, both are great in their own way, and both have their own fans.

TolkienFan365 said:
If the basement reveal is the main reason you were interested in the story then yeah probably. The story starts to take a massive shift with the reveal which a lot of people like myself liked others may not as it shifts the story in a very different way (Uprising is more indicative of where AOT is going)

Again for me AOT got even better after the basement and I think the current mystery of the manga is way more interesting than the basement. I think people love the current direction of the manga but that may just down to selection bias as those who didn't may have dropped it already. All I can say is I can't speak for you just wait until it happens or until S4 comes out so you can see the new direction.

crybabynes said:


I really don't like AoT because of the hype, yes it was so popular and that's why I watched it, a popular anime? Let's watch it, and so I did and my sister and brother too, and it was just a matter of time until it became my most favorite show not only anime (my sister did too).

And whenever it gets more mysterious I love it more and more, I spend long nights discuss with my sister every scene and every dialogue, and theorize many things, I just love it, it feeds my mind.

I actually don't see the story as black and white and I'm not yet sure if the other side are supposed to be "villains"? because we know nothing, really nothing, us only-anime watchers.

What I like about it that the story is very grounded, that's why I don't expect something ultra super powers lol because if so that would so out of place for AoT.
I expect a great well-written plot twists.

Plus, I enjoy MHA as a fun show, I don't take it serious but I love its vibes.

CondemneDio said:
It's not worth the wait in my opinion.
Totally ruins the story from that point onward.

locophile said:
No worries the story has more to tell , the basement is shocking and plot twisted reveal.

Isayama is not a normal writer who will make a reveal as weak as other average animes we used to watch.

crybabynes said:


I still don't know what it could be :|, but I don't think that the story is gonna be bad, I'm sure the basement is only a mere part of a bigger story and I hope so, because i think the story is amazingly intriguing, and the plot.. the plot of AoT is incredible.

Nim0174 said:


keep in mind he only read til chapter 96 which means he has no idea whats going on
because of the way isayama tells the story the events start clearing up in chapter 100-110 which then reveals the bigger plot more clearly and introduces new mysteries in a different way

keragamming said:
@CondemneDio

Thought you were up to date with the manga, but I've now realise thanks to @Nim0174 that you are only at chapter 96, now I'm going to say that is a premature judgement you made after only reading 6 chapters of the last arc, you literally stop reading it 2 chapters before that arc starts to really get in the mood.

Most people including myself didn't think those chapters were hype in the slightest and I have notice seeing plenty of people putting the manga on hold or dropping it between chapter 91 to 97, literally before shit hits the fan.

Now if you are caught up or atleast read up to chapter 106 and you still don't like it, then you can make those criticism, but its really unfair to judge a arc so quickly when you have seen less than half that arc.

CondemneDio said:

If it made my lose my interest, it made me lose my interest. No way around it.

I decided to power-read through the remaining chapters once the manga is completed. By that time, maybe I'll change my mind, maybe I won't.