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May 22, 2019 2:19 PM
#151
deg said: what happen to reality is different to fiction? like video game violence does not make gamers violent or watching porn does not make more rapists Like sorry dude but that's clearly false, like if i see some ugly ass looking goblin getting it on and fuck a women, it drives my nuts to epic mode and start rubbing myself off like if it makes me wanna rape the first woman i see on the street. It's like this anime is turning me into a midget like green creature progressively, this is a clear fact that anyone should just accept now. |
May 22, 2019 7:00 PM
#152
Vhailor said: MehmetY said: mwalimu said: MehmetY said: I don't know is anime normalizing incest but it's definitely spreading incest. There wasn't incest porns before 2015. "Kiss x Sis" dates from 2008-2010, unless you want to argue that it's technically not incest since the parties involved are step-siblings. I mean there was no incest porns in porn sector before 2015. Yes, there was step mom-sister porns but they were "STEP" sisters or moms. Incest relationships got popularity with incest animes (likely 2005-2012 incest animes) and becuase of that porn producers decided to make incest porns like "S*sLovesMe" or "Fam*lyStrokes". Pretty sure the spike in incest porn is due to Game of Thrones, and not anime. That show REALLY normalized incest in the mainstream, consistently for 8 whole years. Before that, I don't even remember ever seeing incest of any kind, let alone between actual blood related siblings in a popular TV show. But I think more than anime or hentai, Japanese AV is more responsible for the increase in incest porn in the western/American porn industry. Just like hentai, there is a hell of a lot of incest in JAV, and those are in direct competition to western porn, since Japanese porn is more popular than not just hentai, but even other genres on a lot of porn sites. The western porn industry is even starting to produce serious porn with "realistic" drama after seeing how popular JAV is, when previously western porn usually used to be corny and over-the-top. We have Vampire Knight in 2004. That series is still popular. |
May 22, 2019 7:01 PM
#153
Akhdas said: deg said: what happen to reality is different to fiction? like video game violence does not make gamers violent or watching porn does not make more rapists Like sorry dude but that's clearly false, like if i see some ugly ass looking goblin getting it on and fuck a women, it drives my nuts to epic mode and start rubbing myself off like if it makes me wanna rape the first woman i see on the street. It's like this anime is turning me into a midget like green creature progressively, this is a clear fact that anyone should just accept now. Is Goblin Slayer your choice anime for passing time, by any chance? Additionally, Oyasumi Sex is a pure and heartwarming anime. |
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May 22, 2019 8:36 PM
#154
I ain't saying incest is bad, but when you gather 'round the thanksgiving table with your ex/your cousin, it isn't the most pleasant thing to occur, y'know? |
May 22, 2019 9:54 PM
#155
Phraze said: Vhailor said: MehmetY said: mwalimu said: MehmetY said: I don't know is anime normalizing incest but it's definitely spreading incest. There wasn't incest porns before 2015. "Kiss x Sis" dates from 2008-2010, unless you want to argue that it's technically not incest since the parties involved are step-siblings. I mean there was no incest porns in porn sector before 2015. Yes, there was step mom-sister porns but they were "STEP" sisters or moms. Incest relationships got popularity with incest animes (likely 2005-2012 incest animes) and becuase of that porn producers decided to make incest porns like "S*sLovesMe" or "Fam*lyStrokes". Pretty sure the spike in incest porn is due to Game of Thrones, and not anime. That show REALLY normalized incest in the mainstream, consistently for 8 whole years. Before that, I don't even remember ever seeing incest of any kind, let alone between actual blood related siblings in a popular TV show. But I think more than anime or hentai, Japanese AV is more responsible for the increase in incest porn in the western/American porn industry. Just like hentai, there is a hell of a lot of incest in JAV, and those are in direct competition to western porn, since Japanese porn is more popular than not just hentai, but even other genres on a lot of porn sites. The western porn industry is even starting to produce serious porn with "realistic" drama after seeing how popular JAV is, when previously western porn usually used to be corny and over-the-top. We have Vampire Knight in 2004. That series is still popular. I meant the overall mainstream throughout the world, not the anime/manga community. Or is that manga also popular outside of the usual otaku community (kind of like Dragonball and Pokemon)? |
May 22, 2019 10:04 PM
#156
Vhailor said: Phraze said: Vhailor said: MehmetY said: mwalimu said: MehmetY said: I don't know is anime normalizing incest but it's definitely spreading incest. There wasn't incest porns before 2015. "Kiss x Sis" dates from 2008-2010, unless you want to argue that it's technically not incest since the parties involved are step-siblings. I mean there was no incest porns in porn sector before 2015. Yes, there was step mom-sister porns but they were "STEP" sisters or moms. Incest relationships got popularity with incest animes (likely 2005-2012 incest animes) and becuase of that porn producers decided to make incest porns like "S*sLovesMe" or "Fam*lyStrokes". Pretty sure the spike in incest porn is due to Game of Thrones, and not anime. That show REALLY normalized incest in the mainstream, consistently for 8 whole years. Before that, I don't even remember ever seeing incest of any kind, let alone between actual blood related siblings in a popular TV show. But I think more than anime or hentai, Japanese AV is more responsible for the increase in incest porn in the western/American porn industry. Just like hentai, there is a hell of a lot of incest in JAV, and those are in direct competition to western porn, since Japanese porn is more popular than not just hentai, but even other genres on a lot of porn sites. The western porn industry is even starting to produce serious porn with "realistic" drama after seeing how popular JAV is, when previously western porn usually used to be corny and over-the-top. We have Vampire Knight in 2004. That series is still popular. I meant the overall mainstream throughout the world, not the anime/manga community. Or is that manga also popular outside of the usual otaku community (kind of like Dragonball and Pokemon)? I would say so. One of the most popular manga during its time, or at least I would see it ranked up there whenever checking sites (which made me check it out in the end). |
May 22, 2019 11:11 PM
#157
90% of anime which contains "Imouto" as/in title , are incest... |
May 22, 2019 11:26 PM
#158
foxsuprise said: I ain't saying incest is bad, but when you gather 'round the thanksgiving table with your ex/your cousin, it isn't the most pleasant thing to occur, y'know? Welp... at least you can introduce her to your parents more easily |
May 23, 2019 2:28 AM
#159
Dave_Adrian said: We all know there's a lot of anime about incest... what do you guys think? Tbh, I'm just making this thread bcuz I'm starting to think that my cousin is kinda hot... and I'm wondering if it's bcuz I've watched too many anime with incest in them.. cousins aren't incest although it depends on where you live |
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May 23, 2019 3:23 AM
#160
watching porn does not make more rapists [/quote] Yeah but don't watch rape porn believing that you will not become rapist. It is risky |
May 23, 2019 3:38 AM
#161
There's nothing objectively wrong with incest as long as they don't reproduce. |
May 23, 2019 4:09 AM
#162
The problem with anime is that all characters look perfect and attractive because it takes more effort to make ugly characters. Since all characters are perfect, that means sisters/brothers end up being perfect and attractive. |
May 23, 2019 4:31 AM
#163
I want to say no but then I look at the anime known as Kiss x Sis and agree..Incest is wrong on so many levels but anime make it seem okay which it is not xD |
May 23, 2019 4:47 AM
#164
Dave_Adrian said: We all know there's a lot of anime about incest... what do you guys think? Tbh, I'm just making this thread bcuz I'm starting to think that my cousin is kinda hot... and I'm wondering if it's bcuz I've watched too many anime with incest in them.. Ive actually dated my cousin, but we eventually stopped because it was a long distance relationship. And it had nothing to do with anime. I talked to my friend group and they said there was nothing immoral about incest, just consequences if you want to have a child. Even those consequences can be avoided though |
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May 23, 2019 5:04 AM
#165
No I do not think that anime is normalizing incest.I think there are very less anime that focus on showing incest and these shows are statistically poorly rated and have a small audience,meaning people do not enjoy watching such anime ergo less anime creators are even interested in making anime on such themes. |
May 23, 2019 5:58 AM
#166
You know how certain people are obsessed with learning about murders, rape, pedophiles, etc? That's me with incest. I just find it really fascinating psychologically but also don't really like things with sex in them so Japanese things like anime and manga give me the perfect blend...just sayin' But yeah I unironically enjoyed OreImo and Eromanga quite a bit and everytime there's incest in something I find it 5 times more interesting than regular romance. |
May 23, 2019 7:18 AM
#167
Sure, a niche theme in a niche artform is making the entire population of the world get turned on by their siblings. Happened in my city. |
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May 23, 2019 7:45 AM
#168
Dave_Adrian said: Daemon said: Not really. Most incest in anime is fetishized garbage, which is already seen in regular porn that a lot of average people watch. They see it for what it is and wank off to it or whatever but don't actually think incest is normal because of it. The anime that do take incest seriously and romantically typically aren't watched by normal people, so those types of shows aren't exactly normalizing incest either. What kinda anime that takes incest seriously and romantically anyway? Koi Kaze does, someone already mentioned it on the first page. It doesn't normalize incest however, instead it creates sensitivity for the topic. |
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May 23, 2019 8:23 AM
#169
Yes of course, its also normalizing autism. |
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
May 23, 2019 9:51 AM
#170
Darren_Zheng said: Dave_Adrian said: We all know there's a lot of anime about incest... what do you guys think? Tbh, I'm just making this thread bcuz I'm starting to think that my cousin is kinda hot... and I'm wondering if it's bcuz I've watched too many anime with incest in them.. Ive actually dated my cousin, but we eventually stopped because it was a long distance relationship. And it had nothing to do with anime. I talked to my friend group and they said there was nothing immoral about incest, just consequences if you want to have a child. Even those consequences can be avoided though woowowow you dated your cousin?? What did yo parents say?? And did you.. you know... go past the stage of buttering her muffins? |
May 23, 2019 3:31 PM
#171
It's not incest if they're not blood related... It's wincest OP... know your vocab pls... Also not a good bait desu |
May 23, 2019 8:06 PM
#172
Not really because it already was normal in Japanese culture to some degree although still tabboo |
May 23, 2019 8:46 PM
#173
Cabron said: >is anime normalizing incest? >we all know there's a lot of anime about incest... what do you guys think? Not really? I mean it's there but not sure about a lot of anime having it... Exactly, yes there may be a few anime with incest as a main theme, but hardly enough to normalize it. |
May 23, 2019 9:22 PM
#175
_Ako_ said: It's not incest if they're not blood related... It's wincest OP... know your vocab pls... Also not a good bait desu Good bait cuz got like hundreds of replies |
May 23, 2019 10:11 PM
#176
Vhailor said: I mean there was no incest porns in porn sector before 2015. Yes, there was step mom-sister porns but they were "STEP" sisters or moms. Incest relationships got popularity with incest animes (likely 2005-2012 incest animes) and becuase of that porn producers decided to ma Pretty sure the spike in incest porn is due to Game of Thrones, and not anime. That show REALLY normalized incest in the mainstream, consistently for 8 whole years. Before that, I don't even remember ever seeing incest of any kind, let alone between actual blood related siblings in a popular TV show. But I think more than anime or hentai, Japanese AV is more responsible for the increase in incest porn in the western/American porn industry. Just like hentai, there is a hell of a lot of incest in JAV, and those are in direct competition to western porn, since Japanese porn is more popular than not just hentai, but even other genres on a lot of porn sites. The western porn industry is even starting to produce serious porn with "realistic" drama after seeing how popular JAV is, when previously western porn usually used to be corny and over-the-top. GoT normalizing incest? Are you definitely sure? If they were, why almost all people despise Cersei and Jaime if incest are normal? And why Cersei and Jaime didn't want the whole world know about their relationship and their borned kids? Normalizing and putting such act into the scene is a different thing, IMHO. |
May 23, 2019 10:28 PM
#177
Anime can't normalize incest any more than Game of Thrones can. |
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May 23, 2019 11:24 PM
#178
Reinhard said: Nah. Game of Thrones already did that. This Step-sister porn and that kind of shit started getting much more featured on Pornhub after GoT blew up with the incest stuff. |
May 23, 2019 11:28 PM
#179
Incest is keeping the royal bloodline stay pure... So, if the anime character are normal people that doesnt had any royal bloodline... then it was ilegal |
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May 24, 2019 1:26 AM
#180
It was a thing on Porn productions even before anime was a thing, also the southern U.S didn't need any anime to normalize this act. Just try to not get gang raped on your family dinner and you should be fine. |
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May 24, 2019 2:42 AM
#181
Incest is normal in most hentai but in anime it is not that much common. The creators make it look like its not incest even if it is, |
May 24, 2019 3:32 AM
#182
Pickle_Jar said: Incest is normal in most hentai but in anime it is not that much common. The creators make it look like its not incest even if it is, Da fuc 'it looks like its not oncest but it is' even goddamn means? |
May 24, 2019 3:47 AM
#183
I don't really understand with people that have incest fetish, since I don't even want to imagine I f*ck someone that has a blood related to me. But I'm really sure this is just for franchise, I'm really sure especially someone who doesn't have an actual brother/sister, since one of my friend, a boy. He said he want to have a little sister if he can, and I'm just like "Wtf dude, get some help!" |
May 24, 2019 3:54 AM
#184
Maybe not for the average viewer but sure it can. Fill your head with enough of any medium and it can start to affect your real life perception. |
May 24, 2019 1:52 PM
#185
I wish it were, but I don't see how. Yes anime is kinda mainstream at this point, but the reaction I see to most incest shows is disgust. If the show is good, then they'd wish there was no incest. Which is a damn shame, because the stigma against incest is one of the stupidest things I know of in modern society. |
May 24, 2019 2:05 PM
#186
Pickle_Jar said: Incest subtext seems to be really common in a lot of Japanese media and treated like casual humor or even portrayed as not humorously at all.Incest is normal in most hentai but in anime it is not that much common. The creators make it look like its not incest even if it is, |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
May 24, 2019 2:15 PM
#187
Sphinxter said: F they really do work out with anything even their siblings. Fine by me as I dont have one, can't really seem to comprehend the feeling.Pickle_Jar said: Incest subtext seems to be really common in a lot of Japanese media and treated like casual humor or even portrayed as not humorously at all.Incest is normal in most hentai but in anime it is not that much common. The creators make it look like its not incest even if it is, |
May 24, 2019 2:26 PM
#188
Pickle_Jar said: Well I'm fine with it too; I'm just saying that incest subtexts are really common in Japanese media even in media that don't feature it as a centrepiece.Sphinxter said: F they really do work out with anything even their siblings. Fine by me as I dont have one, can't really seem to comprehend the feeling.Pickle_Jar said: Incest is normal in most hentai but in anime it is not that much common. The creators make it look like its not incest even if it is, Scenes like this: Will rarely be featured in Eurogenetic media — the story is not about incest; it's just thrown in there; a clingy sibling that behaves very incestuously and later down the story even remarks that one of his goals in life is to overcome crippling social anxiety and to normally "flirt" with his sibling. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
May 25, 2019 12:50 AM
#189
Sphinxter said: OOF. So conclusion is that japenese people promote incest in a way to entertain the audience. That part makes it complex for the rest of the world to understand whether they are trying to influence us by incest or just making it a genre of entertainment.Pickle_Jar said: Well I'm fine with it too; I'm just saying that incest subtexts are really common in Japanese media even in media that don't feature it as a centrepiece.Sphinxter said: Pickle_Jar said: Incest subtext seems to be really common in a lot of Japanese media and treated like casual humor or even portrayed as not humorously at all.Incest is normal in most hentai but in anime it is not that much common. The creators make it look like its not incest even if it is, Scenes like this: Will rarely be featured in Eurogenetic media — the story is not about incest; it's just thrown in there; a clingy sibling that behaves very incestuously and later down the story even remarks that one of his goals in life is to overcome crippling social anxiety and to normally "flirt" with his sibling. |
May 25, 2019 12:56 AM
#190
Dave_Adrian said: A_Lonely_Jedi said: Dave_Adrian said: We all know there's a lot of anime about incest... what do you guys think? Tbh, I'm just making this thread bcuz I'm starting to think that my cousin is kinda hot... and I'm wondering if it's bcuz I've watched too many anime with incest in them.. I am also a little worried for you though lol. Eyy m8, Im pretty sure a certain sister/cousin is also in love with the Black Swordsman himself (sugu got some big melons tho) Your first mistake is thinking that this shit is the Black Swordsman. He's not. This is the Black Swordsman. Secondly, anime is normalizing incest the same way it normalizes slicing people in half with a katana; i.e, it's not normalizing shit. |
May 25, 2019 1:20 AM
#191
No - Well this is a tacit admission that you watch Hentai: Dave_Adrian said: We all know there's a lot of anime about incest... what do you guys think? Tbh, I'm just making this thread bcuz I'm starting to think that my cousin is kinda hot... and I'm wondering if it's bcuz I've watched too many anime with incest in them.. But overall.... I have to agree with you. Anime uses many justifications in its promotion of incest amongst some characters. The popular trope is that they are step-siblings, but that also seems to be disappearing for something more direct. But than again, sexual behaviour in Japan seems to be borderline offensive if you look at some anime. Even if one is not arguing from an incest point of view, they regard misogny at times as being cute and funny (just look at all of the patting in the original dragon ball) |
May 25, 2019 3:12 AM
#192
yhunata said: Dave_Adrian said: A_Lonely_Jedi said: Dave_Adrian said: I laughed when I read the name of this thread and I laughed after reading it.We all know there's a lot of anime about incest... what do you guys think? Tbh, I'm just making this thread bcuz I'm starting to think that my cousin is kinda hot... and I'm wondering if it's bcuz I've watched too many anime with incest in them.. I am also a little worried for you though lol. Eyy m8, Im pretty sure a certain sister/cousin is also in love with the Black Swordsman himself (sugu got some big melons tho) Your first mistake is thinking that this shit is the Black Swordsman. He's not. This is the Black Swordsman. Secondly, anime is normalizing incest the same way it normalizes slicing people in half with a katana; i.e, it's not normalizing shit. it's a joke m8.. of course Guts is the goddamn Black Swordsman, Kirito is basically just some neckbeard playin too many world of warcraft |
May 25, 2019 3:14 AM
#193
UknwWhu said: No - Well this is a tacit admission that you watch Hentai: Dave_Adrian said: We all know there's a lot of anime about incest... what do you guys think? Tbh, I'm just making this thread bcuz I'm starting to think that my cousin is kinda hot... and I'm wondering if it's bcuz I've watched too many anime with incest in them.. But overall.... I have to agree with you. Anime uses many justifications in its promotion of incest amongst some characters. The popular trope is that they are step-siblings, but that also seems to be disappearing for something more direct. But than again, sexual behaviour in Japan seems to be borderline offensive if you look at some anime. Even if one is not arguing from an incest point of view, they regard misogny at times as being cute and funny (just look at all of the patting in the original dragon ball) I kinda agree with you fam, a lot of shit that Meliodas did to Elizabeth in Seven Deadly Sins is borderline sexual harrasment, and the author just treats it as some kind of comedy relief like 'hoho he's a funny pervert' |
May 25, 2019 3:24 AM
#194
Incest is a good things in anime but a bad things in rl. That's all. |
May 25, 2019 8:02 AM
#195
Pickle_Jar said: I don't think they're trying to influence anything deliberately as much as that Japanese media just seem to be far more comfortable with deriving humor from subjects like incest, sexual harassment, racism, and domestic violence that would be considered too sensitive in other cultures.Sphinxter said: OOF. So conclusion is that japenese people promote incest in a way to entertain the audience. That part makes it complex for the rest of the world to understand whether they are trying to influence us by incest or just making it a genre of entertainment.Pickle_Jar said: Sphinxter said: F they really do work out with anything even their siblings. Fine by me as I dont have one, can't really seem to comprehend the feeling.Pickle_Jar said: Incest subtext seems to be really common in a lot of Japanese media and treated like casual humor or even portrayed as not humorously at all.Incest is normal in most hentai but in anime it is not that much common. The creators make it look like its not incest even if it is, Scenes like this: Will rarely be featured in Eurogenetic media — the story is not about incest; it's just thrown in there; a clingy sibling that behaves very incestuously and later down the story even remarks that one of his goals in life is to overcome crippling social anxiety and to normally "flirt" with his sibling. |
It is obvious that "obscenity" is not a term capable of exact legal definition; in the practice of the courts, it means "anything that shocks the magistrate". — Bertrand Russell |
May 25, 2019 8:29 AM
#196
This comes from who has never watched an incest-themed anime, nor read a manga about it. I am fond of battle-themed and psychological horror stories, whether anime, manga or novels, and I've never, ever in my life thought of justifying nor appreciate what happens in those narrative universe when thinking about it in a real life context. What happens in fiction is fiction. We humans created fiction and produce fiction because we can make things happen there which should not be happening outside, in the real world. So if any of you has serious issues distinguishing a fictional universe with the real world, then you guys ARE the problem and not "Anime normalizing incest", nor "Game of Thrones normalizing war and prostitution". If you cannot tell fictional works and real world apart, then you should probably seek for professional help. No offense or disrespect intended but you would like to calm down when saying that fictional works "normalize incest". Seriously. |
May 25, 2019 10:49 AM
#197
More than 200 replies... let's make it to 300 folks!! |
May 26, 2019 8:34 AM
#198
May 26, 2019 9:08 AM
#199
skull90 said: I think yes and i like it a lot, maybe because I do not have a sister. Oh but the cousins are allowed, that's normal. Back it up a bit there m8... you really think a thing between cousins is normal? |
May 26, 2019 9:27 AM
#200
Dave_Adrian said: skull90 said: I think yes and i like it a lot, maybe because I do not have a sister. Oh but the cousins are allowed, that's normal. Back it up a bit there m8... you really think a thing between cousins is normal? Not really, but it should be normal. If I was a father I would prefer my daughter to be with my nephew, it's better than some deceptive asshole, right? |
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