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SSL443 said: Cyborg_Icarus29 said: This show can be summed up with one phrase. Good concept, flawed execution. The writer has some fun ideas but the writing is frustrating. Most LN adaptations suffer from the same problem tbh. This series doesn't even have good ideas. It's the same shit with a veneer of edge to make exceptional people think it has "potential". The best you can say is that the concept is novel at the highest, most abstract level. "Hey, how about an isekai protagonist who isn't overpowerd and constantly validated at every opportunity?" What an amazing, original concept!!! Eh i'm talking about the concept of the show in the earlier episodes. it's not original or "good" from a critical point of view but it seemed fun and interesting for an isekai show. the novelty is gone now and the show turned into another cliched isekai with retarded characters and frustrating writing choices. |
| judgin by the reactions from people who read the source material, that long monologue of Naofumi telling everybody off is definitely an excuse to squeeze in a recap in this annoying Spear Guy trying to deflect blame away form himself during that monologue is so cringe |
Cyborg_Icarus29 said: Eh i'm talking about the concept of the show in the earlier episodes. So was I. Nothing truly original about it, except by the lowest standards. |
Yourmom53 said: I dunno, common sense? Dead things roth and need to be buried oterwise they start pandemics. I do not know how sheltered city kids are today but this used to be common knowledgeI said it before and Ill say it again how the hell was Ren supposed to know that leaving a dragon corpse was going to lead to a plague if anyone is at fault its the villagers for making it a tourist attraction @Fede_5000 that is because the knowledge on how to do this was lost for lots of years @crosswrm in Dororo they fcked up the source material really bad . They wanted to make Daigo and Tahomaru not completely evil and they messed the story. Took so much to fix ut that we have an episode released at preproduction quality with sketchy drawings and animation even being released a few days late and taking one week break. |
nightcrawlercypMay 15, 2019 10:50 PM
| Good episode! I knew that other two heroes couldn't be dead, and they showed up for help! I am glad Naofumi managed to accomplish Fitoria's promise, and said everything they feel about other three heroes, and what all of them did wrong toward Naofumi, obvious Naofumi dont forgive them, but they have to beat pope together, hope after this episode the annoying spear hero open his eyes! Btw, filo reactions towards spear hero were priceless| I am truly hyped to see next episode! |
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| 30 minutes. NOTHING FCKING HAPPENED I was ready to see the Naofumi beat the pope's ass but all we got was a damn recap. My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined. |
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| What a let down. This is getting worst and worst from episode to episode. Same happened to Slime... |
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| Shield hero: I'm not going to play along with you idiots argues with the other heros for 8 minutes letting the pope get mana Shield hero: nvm I'll join you guys now The stalling just to have this fight next week was annoying. Yet another series letting me down this week. |
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| Think i might take a break and finish this off all at once later with how the pace is going. Dont know how they're going to squeeze all the waves / main event in. |
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| Filo was such a mood in this episode. Not only is the Spear Hero annoying, everyone else in this series is too. |
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| 24 minutes cliffanger. Second part of this show is a joke. |
Daniel_Naumov said: FuMomo-kun said: Just because someone takes his side, Naofumi is not afraid to point out their mistakes as well. He is a surprisingly respectable character. Nao-chan got everyone to talk. That is a good way to build a relationship. Hiding things makes it hard to gain trust. Motoyasu is such a scum. He is just interested in blaming others and not taking the tiniest bit of responsibility. I love how Filo blames Motoyasu for everything. Haha I realised that the pope blew the castle walls last episode. He is dumb, I guess. I thought the Pope was using a black hole type of power, but it seems I was wrong. He was doing something much scarier: putting people in a church. ((((；ﾟДﾟ))))))) By the way, what is Mana? I hear that word a lot, and I can kind of guess its meaning, but I just want to be sure. I can Google it, but then I might get annoying ads related to it. Mana is the most generic word used to describe almost every concept of magical power in fantasies. Something like an energy supply for spells and incantations. Quite widely used, never played a fantasy game? Not that I care. You are welcome. Oh, that makes sense. It's like a magic fuel! Yeah, you're right, I've never played a fantasy game. Rather, I've only ever played flash games that used to be popular when I was in school. |
LightoLhxd4 said: crosswrm said: why should Dororo not even be loyal to the source, if you don't want to be disappointed to watch OPM S2, AOT S3 Part B, JOJO Golden Wind, the 3 shows are loyal to 95% of the manga, and the event is the best this yearI can't wait for the show to end for me to get rid of this burden. Why I didn't start watching Dororo back then rather than this? My general impression of Dororo is that it didn't have a drop in quality, which turned out not to be the case, as @nightcrawlercyp already pointed out that for me. And that question of mine was more of a rhetorical question anyway... About the other shows, I've dropped OPM S2 on episode 1. The rest, I've been watching them and they are great. |
cross3773May 16, 2019 8:25 AM
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Yourmom53 said: Dead things decompose and provide nutrients as you said only when they are buried. When they are not the decomposition process involves lots of gas being released as a result of chemical reactions. germs spores and bacteria use those to spread and infect other organisms. The reason why generally in nature pandemics do not start every time an animal dies in the forest is because flies ants and other animals eat most of the soft parts before it has time to decompose. In some cases rain acts like an insulant. Next or in human settlements this does not happen so bodies have to be burned or burried. Not sure what you read but it was either incomplete or wrong.nightcrawlercyp said: I dunno, common sense? Dead things roth and need to be buried oterwise they start pandemics. I do not know how sheltered city kids are today but this used to be common knowledge Dead things also decompose and provide nutrients to the soil so instead of wondering how sheltered city kids are how about you open a science book edit: one more detail. If the animal is small enough like an ant or worm decomposition does not generate sufficient energy for the organism I mentioned to spread. Also in nature you have two trofic chains: the live one and the dead one. live one a eats b who eats c. dead one: c eats carcass of b which eats carcass of a. Or c eats carcass of both a and b. |
nightcrawlercypMay 16, 2019 9:32 AM
| The eiposde in nutshell: You know this danger we're in atm? Let's ignore it and have a chat. This how's title spells 'dragon ball' wrong. The whole fight could've been done in first 10 minutes had bow and sword 'heroes' been backed by anyone else. How would i've arranged the episode then? First 10 minutes: butchering the fanatics. Rest is spent on exposition dump and petty squabble. Make this trainwreck end already. |
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| Sentence of the episode: "Spear guy is so annoying." Filo said this a few times, but she was spot on with her words. Motoyasu is an annoying guy, indeed. =/ The whole episode have the whole group still in the hole while the pope's ego continues to inflate to the point that I hope someone just decks him in the face. Seriously, he needs it, BADLY! However, it was good to see that Ren and Itsuki alive and well, as their whole party barely escaped with the thanks of the Queen's shadow unit. I'm just happy that Naofumi took the time he needed to set the record straight to the other heroes about their mistakes and shortcomings. Some of his words were harsh, but it was easily deserved, too. Now that all of the talking is finally done, the whole group can now get on with sorting out the Pope, whose next big move, cathedral, seems reminiscent of Fate's Nero Cladius's noble phantasm. Either way, I just want this guy to get destroyed.......badly. X_X |
Arutemusan said: I think in the first ep is mentioned that except Naofumi they all died to get here. About Motoyasu he was always an idiot when it comes to beautiful girls I wonder, if anime shows us the background of other three heroes in future episodes. We see their bad sides, but we know nothing about their previous lives, except for the part, that they liked playing computer games. There is certain "depth" in the character of Naofumi, but other heroes are just dummies. The Spear Dummy might have a very strict and manipulative parents ( mother?), who didn't allow him to have friends and isolated him from other people. So he started to play online games to find friends. That would explain, why he is naive and trust Bicchi so much. The Sword Dummy might be a disabled guy, who tries to become the strongest person in any game and doesn't work in a team, beacause he just tries not to depend on others. The Bow Dummy might be hurt with unjustice in real world like bullying or whatever. Or he might be a coward, who was afraid of fighting unjustice in real life, when he was able to, so he tried to do it in the games at any cost. It would just make so much more sense, because Naofumi can actually help them all. Despite been betrayed and hurt before, he found people, he can trust and rely on. He also understands, where the line of true justice is. It might be a great developement for the characters. Unfortunately, for now other heroes are just annoying, selfish guys who are kinda playing a video game and don't care about the world. Why? Just because Shield Hero should be better than them. |
Best Tsundere girl confirmed !!! Dudi4PoLFr said: Also, Pope's super attack is basically Nero Claudius noble phantasm? Glad I'm not the only one who thought that. |
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| What's with the shitty pacing of this episode? |
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Yourmom53 said: Are you serious? Anyone who has gone hunting knows that you don't leave bodies to decompose. Which is what he did, not once but twice. Remember the wave boss in episode 3? Him and the others left it there.I said it before and Ill say it again how the hell was Ren supposed to know that leaving a dragon corpse was going to lead to a plague if anyone is at fault its the villagers for making it a tourist attraction |
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| Another great episode I don't see any problem with the pacing |
| I don't know why people here dislike the Pope. He's an extremely polite and educated man. He let that bunch of stubborn, feeble minded numbnuts talk and talk and talk and never once did he interrupt their important conversation. |
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| Wow thank god it wasn't just me who thought this episode was a dumpsterfire. The pope is a boring cliche villain, I just want to see him die quickly because he makes everything incredibly stale. The fight between the heroes is laughable, the "final move" of the pope... I couldn't care less. I hope this is not meant to be exciting, just get this shit over with. Sad to see everything go downhill this much. |
| Filo said exactly what i was thinking lol this ep idk was kinda annoying the whole pope guy is just dumb and then everyone finally realizing they was stupid lol i feel like that could have all been done a lot faster but it took a whole ep and with not that many eps left it made things even more annoying imo next ep finally things will happen so am looking forward to it |
| "one step at a time" |
Lel0uchZer0 said: Artgon said: The story of this episode has seemed a bit lazy in every aspect, it does not have a clear reason why to gather them in one place, it is strange that all this happens at an accelerated pace and without so much deepening. Now as for the characters are just as idiots from the first episode ... How does it not make sense? Motoyasu and naofumi are tgere because naofumi wanted to talk to him Ren and itsuki came to help them cause they knew about the pope Yes, but the problem is how fast things happen inside the anime, just until recently they were so comfortable in a place quietly and then come the heroes, an army of the queen and a crazy believer who basically feels forced to hate the protagonist, my complaint is not so much about the events but their narrative, and of course we should not forget the diabolus ex machina in the whole series. |
| They kinda messed up, having him stay in rage shield the whole time, plus no mental burden... Will they just skip him powering up?.. |
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| The reason why Naofumi went off on the other 3 heroes is because they haven't really admitted that they fucked up. When Motoyasu put his hand on Nao's shoulder, expressing his pity that the latter got framed, it rung hollow. And considering how inept Motoyasu is, Naofumi really had to spell it out for him how he fucked up. Itsuki intervenes asking Naofumi to give Motoyasu a break for him (Itsuki) which is ironic considering that he's guilty of making similar screw ups. And of course, Nao lets Itsuki and Ren have it, too. Naofumi lecturing them was not a good decision on his part as talking isn't a free turn (thank god). However, that's part of his character of having trust issues. Motoyasu and Itsuki act like as if all is well when obviously, it's not alright. When he tried to talk to Motoyasu, the latter attacked him. Regardless, this episode was completely boring and predictable, with no tension whatsoever. Next to nothing happened to advance the plot. The events from the last couple of episodes could have been compressed into an episode or even half an episode; but instead they've been dragged out to pad the runtime. This whole sequence with the pope is nothing more than a giant plot convenience to get all the heroes on the same page. Sort of agree. Some of the scenes were anime exclusive and dragged out too long, though they weren't completely pointless. It helped explain/hint the motivations behind Myne's false rape accusation. Quite contrary to this silly notion that it's only for revenge porn. It also points out why the other 3 heroes are weaker and not competent as heroes: them treating the world like a game. Rather funny that this has already been pointed out in past threads, but apparently "the 3 heroes are incompetent solely to make Naofumi look good! Hur durr!". Well, the show was nice enough to spell that out for you. Naturally, things end on yet another cliffhanger, because that is the only way that this show knows how to maintain interest or a semblance of suspense. What a joke. And what do you want the anime to do instead? Conclude the episode without a cliffhanger which would make it worse? Mod edit: removed baiting |
BarnaldMay 17, 2019 9:13 AM
| Anime Pope is a cuck |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| I mean, it was okay. It was basically just a recap episode which is fairly no bueno, but at least it wasn't a BAD recap episode. The Cathedral thing at the end looked good. The pacing felt kinda bad, so hopefully it picks up next episode? |
| @LightoLhxd4 it's not a problem of adaptation but of formats, in a novel or book a speech in the middle of the action looks good, but in an anime it's totally idiotic, From a narrative standpoint having Naofumi finally vent his frustrations about all the shit he had to go through and the other 3 heroes actually listen instead of dismissing him this time must have felt extremely cathartic for the audience who empathise deeply with Naofumi. But for everyone else, this was such a stupid and petty thing for Naofumi to do. they are trying to make the scenes a copy of the novels, but a good adaptation is not about copying the same thing, it's about improving them that is why many adaptations of novels do not work, interrupting the action by giving a speech, a monologue or exposing infodump breaks the rate of the story, the most correct would be to eliminate it or seek to expose in a visual way but it is very hard to translate the written format. |
Yourmom53 said: nightcrawlercyp said: Dead things decompose and provide nutrients as you said only when they are buried. When they are not the decomposition process involves lots of gas being released as a result of chemical reactions. germs spores and bacteria use those to spread and infect other organisms. The reason why generally in nature pandemics do not start every time an animal dies in the forest is because flies ants and other animals eat most of the soft parts before it has time to decompose. In some cases rain acts like an insulant. Next or in human settlements this does not happen so bodies have to be burned or burried. Not sure what you read but it was either incomplete or wrong. edit: one more detail. If the animal is small enough like an ant or worm decomposition does not generate sufficient energy for the organism I mentioned to spread. Also in nature you have two trofic chains: the live one and the dead one. live one a eats b who eats c. dead one: c eats carcass of b which eats carcass of a. Or c eats carcass of both a and b. 1. You pretty much refuted your burying point because like you said a body needs maggots, worms, and rain in order to decompose and 1st and 3rd thing is hard to get when you are buried 2.The dragon corpse was on top of a mountain hours from the town, that's hardly "near the town" so its not like its the corpse was near the town 3. I dont know what that edit has to do with anything 1. Are you for real? you know worms and maggots live underground as well right? Also that rain water seeps through soil? Also those just speed up the process which is important when not buried. To decompose a body just needs humidity bacteria and a small amount of heat. Unless you are in an environment that is extremely hot or extremely cold generally it will decompose. The body has bot humidity and bacteria and heat from tge atmosphere or ground is generally enough. 2.that is correct. but there seem to be no scavangers on that mountain top to eat it. Not even fungae. So is safe to assume there was no animal to consume it close enough. 3.just wanted to give a more complete explanation. The size of the animal is important. Just the amount of putrescide that corpse produces is enough to make people sick. Being on a desolate mountain makes it even worse because it generally means that the wind will push it downhill. 4.One question: have you ever looked to see what happens to a dead body when left unburied? Yourmom53 said: size and environment matters. You are talking about forest. Here we have plane/steppe and a desolated mountain top. Also a deer is small. Even a wild boar or bear is small. We are talking at least elephant size when talking about the dragon.Demyx_IX said: Are you serious? Anyone who has gone hunting knows that you don't leave bodies to decompose. Which is what he did, not once but twice. Remember the wave boss in episode 3? Him and the others left it there. You dont leave dead bodies when you hunt because its is wastefull and unless you killed a bunch of deers in the same place youre pretty much fine |
nightcrawlercypMay 16, 2019 11:20 PM
| Wait, after the meeting with the queen there will be too few episodes left for the island arc but too many overall, does that mean we'll be getting fillers towards the end or did I forget some in-between arc? |
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Yourmom53 said: Unless said carcass is in an area that can/will infect the environment. Like next to a water suppy or somewhere, that has a settlement downwind of it.Demyx_IX said: Are you serious? Anyone who has gone hunting knows that you don't leave bodies to decompose. Which is what he did, not once but twice. Remember the wave boss in episode 3? Him and the others left it there. You dont leave dead bodies when you hunt because its is wastefull and unless you killed a bunch of deers in the same place youre pretty much fine And about your decomposing point from a previous post, you do realize that the dragon that literally had no plants around, right? So what plants were going to get nutrients from a rotting corpse? |
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| Another great episode for not change. Liked how Naofumi put the three others hero in their places. |
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nanidatosama97 said: This episodes pacing is bad yes but it was such a good cathartic release to see naofumi tear into everyone who deserved it for once and not be stopped by anyone before he does. Feel the same here. It feel kinda stupid that they just talked and did their talk while the evil pope was just hanging in front of them Franck_Nicolas said: they destroyed all the tense from this giant battle with cheap talkings in the middle of the battle Exactly, I hope they dont drag things in the next episode. |
Yourmom53 said: kater_tot said: I think the way to resolve things and work together better is for all FOUR of them to admit that they made some bad choices like being stubborn, ignorant, arrogant and what not. That's the only way they can start back at square one and put everything right. Well Naofumi cant admit he is wrong because that would destroy the wish fulliment What wish fulfilment? |
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LightoLhxd4 said: yes, it's true, but MANGA was originally good until VOLUME 4 at the moment, and since entering VOLUME 6 the giant turtle bow has begun to turn boring Fede_5000 said: I wonder why they do not replicate more of those weapons, they go around anoying the heroes instead of helping in the waves, Oh of course! someone has the answer that in the novels that weapon consumes much mana blah blah.... but at least it would appreciated that people who are not heroes will try to do something by the waves, but it is too much to ask a this story which breathes artificiality in every molecule of their existence. There is a good reason why they need more than fancy weapons and prayers to beat a wave, but that will not be shown until the next wave happens. Considering the OP is showing some of the key characters of the next arc, they sure will adapt the next wave. |
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| I'm really glad and all that Naofumi gave those three thugs a talking to but man, it shouldn't have been done in the middle of the battle. Oh well, gotta wait again till the fighting. |
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