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vitaminB said: This show is a clusterfuck. Both key elements, warfare and politics, are like written by a 12 yo who has zero knowledge about how neither of those work. One of the worst script and character writing I've ever seen. At some points I had to speed up the video simply cause I no longer could take the idiocy that was going on on the screen. My score is 1/10, and if MAL allowed, i'd just rate it 0. Clearly not what I expected from a show that's being literally worshipped as world's finest masterpiece, which I believed it was, until i watched it. Makes me wonder if like two thirds of its worshippers are really anything more than just bandwagon. Why stop at 0 bruh, why not -10? |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| Finished it in 1.5 months, absolutely brilliant. The ending is probably as perfect as one could imagine - the new generation is ready to live on and replace the legends of the previous epoch. Maybe the story will even go full circle - in the end, the deeds of men remain the same, regardless of the epoch. As for the final episode, it just reassured my love for Oberstein. As he had said previously in the series, he was ready to die for the sake of the Kaiser without any hesitation, and he did it in order to buy Reinhard some time to die peacefully. Reinhard didn't even learn about Oberstein's sacrifice (if it was intentional, and I believe it was) on his death bed. In a way, Oberstein is a bit like Reinhard's loyal dog (in a good sense). Maybe it even explains the fact that the only living being Oberstein cared about besides Reinhard was his dog. I guess they just had a lot in common. I don't really believe that Oberstein's death was not a planned suicide. In fact, it was true to his character - what happens with a shadow of a star when it goes out? The shadow disappears. It's a logical conclusion to Oberstein's story. In fact, every character in LOGH finds this kind of conclusion. I can't think of anyone, whose death was out of place. And as for the living - they have pretty much left to do! I'm also happy that while this is the end of such a great saga and I will never be able to experience it again for the first time, I still have 52 prequel episodes to watch, and the mere thought of returning to the characters I love and care about warms my heart. I just hope that the prequels are as gorgeous as the original series. |
St0rmblade said: what happens with a shadow of a star when it goes out? The shadow disappears. It's a logical conclusion to Oberstein's story. In fact, every character in LOGH finds this kind of conclusion. . Very nicely put. I never saw that quote as a metaphor for all of the characters. But it makes a lot of sense now. St0rmblade said: I still have 52 prequel episodes to watch, and the mere thought of returning to the characters I love and care about warms my heart. I just hope that the prequels are as gorgeous as the original series. Not as gorgeous, but its good enough for anyone who is missing those characters. It's very heartwarming indeed, and the prequel OVAs end at a point where My Conquest is the Sea of Stars connects :) So if you watched My Conquest is the sea of stars and then Overture to a New War before the main OVA, your viewing experience comes back full circle. |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
eyerok said: St0rmblade said: what happens with a shadow of a star when it goes out? The shadow disappears. It's a logical conclusion to Oberstein's story. In fact, every character in LOGH finds this kind of conclusion. . Very nicely put. I never saw that quote as a metaphor for all of the characters. But it makes a lot of sense now. St0rmblade said: I still have 52 prequel episodes to watch, and the mere thought of returning to the characters I love and care about warms my heart. I just hope that the prequels are as gorgeous as the original series. Not as gorgeous, but its good enough for anyone who is missing those characters. It's very heartwarming indeed, and the prequel OVAs end at a point where My Conquest is the Sea of Stars connects :) So if you watched My Conquest is the sea of stars and then Overture to a New War before the main OVA, your viewing experience comes back full circle. Another quote from Oberstein on this topic from episode 26: "Shadows must accompany their light. But if the light dims... Don't the shadows, too?" He just foreshadowed his own death, wow. As for the Gaidens, I finished them today and they're pretty great, I should say. It was very pleasant to see cameos by different characters destined to be the core of Reinhard's and Yang's team in the future. And they end right before the films and the beginning of the main OVA, which is pretty nice too. |
honey--mint said: Then this is clearly not your cup of tea isn't it? This show is a clusterfuck. Both key elements, warfare and politics, are like written by a 12 yo who has zero knowledge about how neither of those work. One of the worst script and character writing I've ever seen. At some points I had to speed up the video simply cause I no longer could take the idiocy that was going on on the screen. My score is 1/10, and if MAL allowed, i'd just rate it 0. Clearly not what I expected from a show that's being literally worshipped as world's finest masterpiece, which I believed it was, until i watched it. Makes me wonder if like two thirds of its worshippers are really anything more than just bandwagon. Even though this was an adaptation of an award-winning manga series, I think a lot of the characters were very well-developed (even if there are over 300 characters in total). Plus this show is meant to be slow and meticulous with the notion that you should pay attention to every single detail being presented, which for me made this show one of my absolute favorites because I like a show that can present a good/great story (my other favorite being Avatar The Last Airbender). If slow and meticulous isn't your thing then there's plenty of other shows for you to watch. |
honey--mint said: Hey, can you delete this post so people don't have to read it when they finish the show and want to talk about itThis show is a clusterfuck. Both key elements, warfare and politics, are like written by a 12 yo who has zero knowledge about how neither of those work. One of the worst script and character writing I've ever seen. At some points I had to speed up the video simply cause I no longer could take the idiocy that was going on on the screen. My score is 1/10, and if MAL allowed, i'd just rate it 0. Clearly not what I expected from a show that's being literally worshipped as world's finest masterpiece, which I believed it was, until i watched it. Makes me wonder if like two thirds of its worshippers are really anything more than just bandwagon. |
honey--mint said: Most people enter this thread through the LOTGH main board, it's just also listed in general discussions.eglepe said: Hey, I'm sure you noticed, but this is not a fan thread. If you can't handle the fact of people having opinions different from that of yours in general title discussion it's not really my problem.Hey, can you delete this post so people don't have to read it when they finish the show and want to talk about it |
eglepe said: honey--mint said: Most people enter this thread through the LOTGH main board, it's just also listed in general discussions.Hey, I'm sure you noticed, but this is not a fan thread. If you can't handle the fact of people having opinions different from that of yours in general title discussion it's not really my problem. Well it is an episode discussion, and she posted her personal opinion so it's okay. The only part of the post I have a problem with is the attack on the fanbase, but that's alright. We all have those moments.. St0rmblade said: Another quote from Oberstein on this topic from episode 26: "Shadows must accompany their light. But if the light dims... Don't the shadows, too?" He just foreshadowed his own death, wow. As for the Gaidens, I finished them today and they're pretty great, I should say. It was very pleasant to see cameos by different characters destined to be the core of Reinhard's and Yang's team in the future. And they end right before the films and the beginning of the main OVA, which is pretty nice too. That's the quote I was referring too. Nice observation there. Yeah, the prequel OVA's are very nice, overall. |
eyerokMay 14, 2019 8:15 PM
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
eyerok said: It's just a bit of a bummer when you're excited to talk about a show you just finished and the post on top is some low effort contrarian crap. I guess we'll get a new page soon enough.eglepe said: Most people enter this thread through the LOTGH main board, it's just also listed in general discussions. Well it is an episode discussion, and she posted her personal opinion so it's okay. The only part of the post I have a problem with is the attack on the fanbase, but that's alright. We all have those moments.. |
| I think Gigguk said it perfectly during his video about classic anime "One of the greatest stories to have been told in the history of anime" "A tale so grande, no other anime comes close to the scale, depth and density of the saga told here" "A one of a kind experience you can't find anywhere else in this medium" "A full-length epic you gradually immerse yourself into" If you find shows boring quickly or you're into faster-paced, more action-packed anime then this show isn't for you. You don't need to be an elitist or a smug prick to like this show either. This show can be enjoyed by anyone. |
| This one took long enough... I started this back in 7/7/2008, had in on hold forever, restarted it a few years ago and finally finished it. I'm having a hard time giving this a 10 because the animation just isn't up there with others even at the time it was made, but everything else about it is masterful. |
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| I"m glad I took an eye for this magnificently beautiful series. All those dramatic experiences were an unforgettable experience for me. 9/10 RIP Oberstein, he's one of my favorite character from this series beside Reuenthal |
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| What an epic series all around. I remember enjoying all of the episodes except one, if I recall correctly it was episode 70 when Yang re-took the Iserlohn Fortress by making the Imperial Admiral look like a retard. I did not expect Oberstein to go out like that and I like that they left it at our judgment whether he wanted to protect the Kaiser or it was a miscalculation. The Kaiser sadly succumbed to the illness but he managed to leave an offspring behind. His death empties my emotions. Epic series all around, 10/10. Reuental was the best character of this show, then followed by Reinhard. Mittermeyer is a strong candidate as well. |
| Die Sage ist vorüber, die Historie beginnt. I don't know how I'm supposed to feel now.. 10/10 |
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| After re watching I could say I really HATE Julian he is every thing I despise about Yang x1000 In fact I dislike the whole yang crew except dusty and yang,Julian is a shitty mary sue copy cat ass character and I hate him with a passion because of them this show is a 8 instead of a 9 thanks to the awesome admirals on the empire side. |
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| I’m very impressed with this show. I started it groaning that it was really long, considering it takes me so much effort to even watch anything over ~26 episodes, but the details for the characters and plot was well worth the meticulousness. On the other hand, I will say that is not an absolute perfect piece due to the overload of details as well... I believe in some of the beginning or middle episodes there could have been dialogue shaved to strengthen the piece. I wouldn’t say any of the episodes (besides the two about Terra, which would have better fit as a special imo) are unnecessary in its entirety, but I can’t help to wonder if this wouldn’t have benefitted from dropping a culmination of lines or short battle interaction sequences to make for a tighter story. That being said, the rest of it was absolutely incredible. I walked into this critical, and honestly poked fun at it in the start, but ended up falling in love with quite a few characters. Yang was definitely the star for me, but so many have a lot of brilliance. Shout out to Oberstein thinking about his dog in his last moments and being amazingly impartial despite all the pushback he constantly received due to natural human emotion and suspicion of his calculating personality. I would certainly like to rewatch this and detail where exactly I felt the small pockets of lull for me were personally, but I will say the last 30 episodes were perfection, as with the majority of the run time. I’m quite humbled and shocked this anime made it into my lower top 10. 9/10 |
LycanSep 22, 2019 8:39 AM
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after having rewatched it, id say LOGH is now tied for my all time fav anime Oberstein did nothing wrong |
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| I very much enjoyed this Shakespearean esque space opera of a show. Oberstein did nothing wrong, and Death to Republicanism! |
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| I just finished LOGH and wow... it was really amazing ! I don't have much to say, it was not perfect but the downs are completely nothing compared to all the good thing that LOGH had to offer ! Yes it is a very ambitious anime, the beginning was a bit hard to watch (about 15 episodes) but the rest was great. It goes up in my top 10 !! 9/10 |
| I thought the Grand Bishop left the earth RIP Oberstein, he didn't make any mistakes. From his personality he knew exactly what will happen to him The story ended after Reinhard's life ended Dusty, Frederica, Julian Hildegard, Wolfgang Are the only main characters left in the end I wished there's some kind of wrap up to show all characters that still alive |
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| I guess I should've gotten suspicious of a maniac that's carrying a mummy with him. Glad to hear that Josef didn't die. Obersteins death was something already foreshadowed by himself. Given his words from back then it's so fitting that he acted as a bait. Selfless till the end, a man who lived for the empire. And that Reinhard didn't learn about this incident was also just consequent. Surprising was still the fact that had a dog at home. This kinda made me wish for a slice of life spin-off depicting his private life xD R.I.P. And wow. Although I didn't like Reinhard quite as much as the good old Yang, his death still ended up being the saddest for me. He accomplished so much and everyone was there( well, only those still alive of course) yet it had something so tragic that he failed at things he really wanted. The scene with Felix and the ambition at the very end was also really nice. My only gripe is that the final season felt rushed, especially towards the end, it easily could've been twice as long or at least with another additional 5 episodes or so. Having that said, it was still fantastic and this ending was without a doubt one of the most emotional ones I've ever seen. Nonetheless one outstanding piece of fiction and I was honestly entertained for every single second. I mean, this series has it all. Grand world building, large cast of compelling characters, nearly perfectly paced( except for the last season as mentioned above) and dense plot with tons of interesting conversations. Some probably thought with all that came also a lot of unnecessary information, but imo it's that attention to detail what made this universe so fascinating and authentic. There was action, politics, "history", philosphy, drama, romance, comedy, a coming of age story. It offered so much variety and precisely that's why I think it's a series that can be enjoyed by most. I can't really think of anything similar in this medium. And props to the narrator, he was the best guide you could think of and he provided a lot of the enjoyment. I would like to write more, but I feel a bit scatterbrained because there's so much to say about this series that it's kinda overwhelming. One last thing for sure, tho. LotGH is an easy 10/10 |
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| There was a lot to like about this show so I will lost some complaints. 1. The conspiracy plot with Phezzan and Terra was weak and shouldn't have even been in the show. 2. The free planet alliance cast is all garbage except for Yang 3. There were some major plot direction errors like killing off Kircheis instead of letting their relationship struggle blossom as Reinhard makes good and bad decisions. 4. Season 1 felt like the only season with any real strategy in battles. 5. Weak space battles. 6. Less talking about the occurences happening in the universe and actually SHOW US what is happening. 7. OP and ED for season 1 completely blew the others out of the water. Season 4 OP and ED are very bad. 8. Too many characters on the empire side. Would have been a better decision to focus on about half the cast size so you get to sympathize with them more. 9. Reurenthal revolt was dumb and forced. 10. Season 2 was bad. Great show. 9/10 |
DhaarokFeb 14, 2020 7:04 AM
| I'm here just to say that I'm genuinely afraid that I will never watch anime this great again. |
| Great (even if also sad) ending to a great anime! I had mixed feelings about Oberstein throughout watching the show but also feel that he redeemed himself through his sacrifice for Kaiser Reinhard. He and the Kaiser himself are surely in Valhalla with the rest of their fellow comrades and even some honored members of the Alliance. I've heard that people especially here on MAL thought very highly of this anime and I fully agree with them. I'll definitely rewatch the whole thing again, as well as watch the prequel and side stories. But I'm going to miss watching this every night for a while, I truly enjoyed it. This series is definitely a 10/10 for me, perhaps even an 11/10! |
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| After all the praise I read, I somehow expected more depth regarding politics, philosophy and characterization in those 110 episodes. But in the end, it is just like watching some superhumans duking it out among themselves. Philosophy, politics and the rest of humanity seem just like a decoration to the titanic struggle among the main characters, who are not that different regarding their methods. Expanding on someone like Job Truniht could have made the show more interesting I think, because he could have given the story some human conflict that feels real. It is not bad, it has some great moments, but it has no real depth in my opinion. Even titanic struggles have been done better. Like in Hunter x Hunter Chimera Ant, because of the bigger emotional impact I felt... Just my personal taste. |
EstefanApr 21, 2020 9:47 AM
| FIRST of all R.I.P. to Yang Wen-Lii and Reinhard & to all those that died as well ! What a ride this one was, ngl there were some episodes that i found them boring but it was worth, i was so sure Reinhard was going to die but i tried to believe he wouldn't, but in the end i was wrong :/ 10/10 |
| This series deserves a solid 8/10, but I gave it a 9 because anime standards are pretty low, to be honest. Space tactics were awful, they made combat episodes the worst aspect of a series about huge battleships firing at each other. Only the second season had some entertaining skirmishes, but they weren't even that spectacular (older shows like Gundam and Macross did a better job at this). The rosen ritters were also awful, they managed to make melee axe combat unexciting by succeeding every single time with no noticeable loses (at least Poplan's squad suffered some loses from time to time, poor Konev). This show's not about action though, but about history, politics, and drama. But even that wasn't as flawless as some fanboys here claim: Some major factions like the evil space-zionists and the retarded Goldenbaum nobles were badly written, and there were some very campy episodes early on, and some very forced ones later on the series. The writing was often inconsistent, sometimes it was great, a few times it went above most people's heads, but many other times it treated the viewers as morons. It's a very enjoyable and well written show, don't get me wrong, but this is no masterpiece. |
HeirofZorJun 5, 2020 12:21 PM
| Let me be honest guys. I went in wanting to hate this series. I was always tired of hearing all the praise this series got. As a big shounen fag, I wouldn't normally watch something like this normally. But it's really good. It's dense, it;s thought-provoking and I found myself attached to the characters before I realized it. Not many people I would recommend it to but if I think they could enjoy it I will. I didn't really enjoy it until I got the mid to late 20's and definitely mid season 2. |
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| I expected more from Oberstein what a quick ending he got.So Reinhard died not knowing what Oberstein did and how he died? Whaaat? Did his wife deliberetly lied to him or she hasnt heard about Oberstein yet? Also, before the cult leader died he said there are more people that want to hurt the Lohengramm family, but we could nott find out because Julian killed him right away. So who are those other bad people ? |
Mila91Jul 3, 2020 7:14 AM
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| And so the great journey ends with this epic episode. The great man who we followed for 110 episodes, finally meets his... beautiful end. Everyone's watching from Valhalla with a glass of wine in hand. WE NEED MORE OF THESE SHOWS!!! 10/f-ing 10!!! |
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| SIEG MEIN KAISER REINHARD VON LOHENGRAMM This universe was too small to contain your dreams and ambitions T__T |
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Estefan said: After all the praise I read, I somehow expected more depth regarding politics, philosophy and characterization in those 110 episodes. But in the end, it is just like watching some superhumans duking it out among themselves. Philosophy, politics and the rest of humanity seem just like a decoration to the titanic struggle among the main characters, who are not that different regarding their methods. Expanding on someone like Job Truniht could have made the show more interesting I think, because he could have given the story some human conflict that feels real. It is not bad, it has some great moments, but it has no real depth in my opinion. Even titanic struggles have been done better. Like in Hunter x Hunter Chimera Ant, because of the bigger emotional impact I felt... Just my personal taste. You could've been taken seriously if it weren't for that penultimate paragraph |
| 23:29 on July 26th, Space Calendar 801, New Imperial Calendar 3. Reinhard von Lohengramm was 25 years old. His reign lasted just over 2 years. The legend ends, and history begins. Time well spent. Legend of the Galactic Heroes is one of those stories where I wish I was fluent in Japanese. There was much eloquence and wisdom from the dialogue I could understand. Thank you Central-Anime for capturing dialogues, monologues, narration, etc. with rich and detailed (and magniloquent) vocabulary to reflect the robust and noble personalities of both the Empire and Alliance. Was Oberstein's sacrifice a furtive plan to execute his own death or a miscalculation on his part? Or both? The world may never know. Were that we could have just one more "page to history". (111!) It'd be nice to see Julian discussing constitutionalism with Hilda, Dusty writing his memoirs, Frederica laying Yang to rest and spending time with the Cazellnu household (and improving her cooking). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dictating his will on his death bed: "Give the six High Admirals the position of Imperial Fleet Admirals. That, however, must be done after my death, in the name of the Kaiserin, who will be regent." His last words to his sister, Annerose: "I had a dream, Sister." "Still, you haven't had your fill of dreams, Reinhard..." "No, I had plenty...the dreams that no one had ever seen before...all too many of them. Sister, thank you for everything. Sister...here. I no longer have need of it. I will give it to you. And...I'll return Kircheis to you. I'm sorry that I've borrowed him from you for such a long time." A blessing for his son, Alexander: "Aside from something like the reign of the Empire, as a father, I wanted to leave my son, Alexander Siegfried with a friend on an equal footing. It's a selfish wish, but I wonder if you'll accept it... You're a good boy, Felix. Please be a good friend to Alec from now on." Concerning Oberstein who has been mysteriously absent "It seems the Chief Minister of Military Affairs isn't here, so where is he?" Hilda wipes his brow. "The Chief Minister of Military Affairs is absent due to compelling reasons." "I see. That's right - what that man does always has compelling reasons." His last words to Hilda: "Kaiserin, I'm certain that you'll govern space more wisely than I could. If you want to move into constitutional polity, that's fine. Either way, as long as the one who holds power is the wisest and most powerful in the universe, all will be well. If Alexander Siegfried does not have the capacity, there's no reason to sustain the Lohengramm Dynasty. If you do everything as you wish, I have nothing more to hope for." His last words. The ambitious youth reaching for the stars with his best friend never left. "Once we seize space, we'll all..." Having heard his last words, his Kaiserin firmly declares: "The Kaiser didn't die of illness; He passed away having used up all of his lifetime. He didn't fall from illness. Everyone, please don't forget that." |
xxxATiONNov 24, 2020 11:55 PM
| A good author leaves the audience enough material to be satisfied with, yet yearning for more. |
BrumaHobo said: This series deserves a solid 8/10, but I gave it a 9 because anime standards are pretty low, to be honest. Space tactics were awful, they made combat episodes the worst aspect of a series about huge battleships firing at each other. Only the second season had some entertaining skirmishes, but they weren't even that spectacular (older shows like Gundam and Macross did a better job at this). The rosen ritters were also awful, they managed to make melee axe combat unexciting by succeeding every single time with no noticeable loses (at least Poplan's squad suffered some loses from time to time, poor Konev). This show's not about action though, but about history, politics, and drama. But even that wasn't as flawless as some fanboys here claim: Some major factions like the evil space-zionists and the retarded Goldenbaum nobles were badly written, and there were some very campy episodes early on, and some very forced ones later on the series. The writing was often inconsistent, sometimes it was great, a few times it went above most people's heads, but many other times it treated the viewers as morons. It's a very enjoyable and well written show, don't get me wrong, but this is no masterpiece. The thing is that this show isn't a masterpiece but so much media in America and Japan that compete with it are so garbage that it is basically a masterpiece on a comparison level. |
| After putting this show off for years I finally decided to give it a try. I had the utmost of expectations that I thought would never be reached, yet I was blown away. Truly a fucking incredible anime. |
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| I wished they used the first ending but still, this last episode left me completely satisfied, top tier anime. |
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