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mary_zervou said: Katojana said: extremely disappointed about the fat guy. The manga version was 1000% better... (FYI: In the manga raphtalia immediatelly stabs him in the shoulder, then they have the talk and ultimately raphtalia stabs him with the magic sword, actively pushing him out the window with naofumi rescuing her from falling) The rest of the episode was great In which chapter does this happen?? Chapter 22 - Fate-found Noble |
| Hearing Raphtalia crying in the background after finding Rifana's body was heart breaking. That was one tragic backstroy and in the end so satisfying seeing that fat guy get crushed underneath a CGI T-Rex! |
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| mfw the insert song towards the end was sung in Swedish lol |
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Eisigerhauch said: In the manga, she pierces the noble's shoulder tossing him and her through the window. She gets caught by the hero seeing the noble covered in blood on the ground; they assume that the noble is dead. I wished that that scene was put in the anime because it was pretty badass moment for Raph. It also built off of Raph and Melty's conversation at Reichnott's mansion, which another scene that the anime didn't adapt. |
Wellp, i can't complain. I did some rambling on the previous episode on how triggered i'd be if the bastard didn't die, and they almost went the annoying moral highground method, but at least he killed himself. I'd say if she can't do it, let Naofumi or Filo kill the bastard lol. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
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MrMickeei said: Right? At first I didn't notice, but then as time went by I was like, *Is that a Swedish word I just heard?*. Very bizarre indeed. Why would they even have a random Swedish song in an Isekai set in a medieval parallel world? Maybe because it sounds... foreign? I have no idea. I want to find the lyrics though, because it sounded like a lovesong or something (from the words I could hear, since it wasn't that easy to hear). Well, well, at least Sweden is getting some recognition from Japan, that is always cool. (If someone finds the song, I would be happy if you shared it, because I want to to hear how well/badly it fits with the moment in the anime). Zacko said: Ahahaha, the swedish song caught me completely off guard. Any info on why they picked a song like this? Väldigt oväntat, lite konstigt, men ganska coolt.  The Swedish are coming, the Swedish are coming! The've got lingonberries! Londonboende Australiensaren Kevin Penkin börjar bli en rätt känd animekompositör nu, och detta verkar vara den andra låten han skrivit som svenska Maria Andersson sjunger. Den första var "Vid en horisont" som hördes i första avsnittet av "Norn9: Norn+Nonet" London based Australian Kevin Penkin is starting to become a well-known anime composer now, and this seems to be the second song he wrote, that Swedish Maria Andersson perfomes. The first was "Vid en horisont" ("At a Horizon") that is heard in the first episode of "Norn9: Norn+Nonet" https://myanimelist.net/anime/31452/Norn9__Norn_Nonet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6Zwrk6nJe8 |
SSL443 said: Zaugr said: And the MC asking for forgiveness from Ralph because "it's the right thing to do" and seemingly taking the teacher/mentor role despite not understanding any of what she or the others went through or having really any actual grasp of the situation, that's insulting (done presumably for the sake of wanking off about how "cool" the MC is and his "handle" of the situation to the audience, like with most shitty, cheap Isekai stories). And he really showed a lot of emotion for his close friend while she was in complete distress and confronting her past torturer... I don't know. I feel like most people in his position would have been uhhhh, upset or maybe angry? Good point to bring up. It really emphasizes how little development there has been of Naofumi's character, but the writing is acting like he is much deeper and more complex than he actually is. I think you're right about the motivation, Naofumi is written to be "cool" and in control - regardless of whether it makes sense, and at the expense of any emotional depth to his character. It's the same reason he always has that constipated grimace on his face. The show is pandering at this point. Any original good ideas that were there have been buried under the garbage writing. They were buried since episode 1 though. These last 2 or 3 episodes just emphasize all the problems the show had. Well, I guess in the early episodes at least it wasn't as edgy as it is now. |
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| That was a very interesting episode. Based on the title I already had the feeling it was gonna be Raph’s backstory and it was done quite well. The emotions and feelings were shown very good. Anyway thanks to Noafumi, Raphtalia almost got killed and let that fat evil person alive... It’s also nice how Keel can see now how much Raphtalia has grown and become such a strong fighter as she is now. I really like all these developments in this anime! Oh and what a nice normal-sized dinosaur that was at the end. Very spectacular... |
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| felt it was a slow episode, for some reason Raphtalia's backstory didn't hit the right emotional beats for me. Good to see she's moving on from her past though. |
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Sm0ggy said: They were buried since episode 1 though. These last 2 or 3 episodes just emphasize all the problems the show had. Well, I guess in the early episodes at least it wasn't as edgy as it is now. I mean, yeah, I agree. I was trying to be a bit more measured for the sake of the fans. |
| I also noticed that changing the Raphtalia vs Idol scene from what it was written in the LN/manga to what was shown in the anime will cause other storytelling problems down the line. |
VeryLTTPApr 17, 2019 4:45 PM
| Pretty Emotional ep digging back to Raphtalias past. It makes me sick how the nobles treated the Demi humans. It was funny when the fat noble guy fell off and almost died. |
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| I actually thought the episode was good. I'm a sucker for emotional story telling and I felt for Raphtalia and her friend. I wish every episode in the show could be like this. |
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| I love Raphtalia, but I detest this episode which was named form her, and I really wish that was not so. The writing for her this episode was ridiculous. The writers are trying to convince me that a woman brought up in a medieval society would not strike down a vicious and very real threat to herself and those she loves. They also gave her the line "I killed someone". Actually she didn't as we saw at the end of the show, thus completely removing even the shadow of Idol's death from her, but even so how the heck am I supposed to believe she never killed anyone up to that point? Haven't they been paying attention to their own show? Granted most of what she has killed have been monsters but then there were also a lot of human men at arms in the last few episodes. Am I to seriously believe that NONE of them were killed? Why must the writers in so many shows project contemporary mores onto to characters from cultures in which such mores would be foreign? That line Raphtalia uses when she decides not to kill Idol "I don't want to be like you". AGH! Killing Idol will NOT make you like him! He is doing it for sadistic pleasure, Raphtalia is doing it for the safety of those she loves. Sorry about the rant, I try not to do that on these boards, but this forced, ill-fitting morality is silly. |
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Top_Sergeant said: That line Raphtalia uses when she decides not to kill Idol "I don't want to be like you". AGH! Killing Idol will NOT make you like him! He is doing it for sadistic pleasure, Raphtalia is doing it for the safety of those she loves. I honestly think the point she was trying to make here is that...Idol was begging for mercy and he was defenseless..As big of a POS as he is, she would still be killing him in cold blood. Similarly to how if a demi-human slave begged him for mercy, he wouldn't give a damn. He obviously deserves death, but Raphtalia has a strong sense of morality and to her killing him wouldn't the the right thing to do given the circumstances. |
| I was afraid they weren't going to give Raphtalia justice after watching the first half of the episode. Her fight and reaction to Idol was different than the manga. But my fears were alleviated with the second half. Genuinely heartbreaking what they all went through. While the villain himself was weak, the impact of the atrocities he committed were not diminished. The worst part about Rifana for me, is that the bastard left her body there to rot. They didnt even bother with her after she died. This was a really important episode for Raphtalia and I felt they did it justice. |
| It's good to know that they changed the source material heavily here. I was really questioning the LN's choices of having Raphtalia 'not kill' the noble dude and eventually her lamenting that she killed someone, with Naofumi of all people who himself is quite the spiteful person comfort her. It felt rather inconsistent with their characters. Still a shame that they chose to change it in the anime. I like the premise of expanding on Raphtalia's backstory, I've only read the WN so this expansion is welcome and I think it's well done. She's already such a lovable character and her backstory really only makes you love her more, she deserves all the love she gets and more. <3 The core theme of how her broken spirit is mended by Naofumi with her inturn healing his broken spirit is one of the things that I've loved the most about this show, but even though I'm so invested in their characters, this actions of the characters in this whole killing the noble ordeal just felt very inconsistent. Naofumi of all people wouldn't stop her, neither would Raphtalia think twice about cutting down someone who has wronged her so much. The scene where the noble dude grabs her hand was just so out of place given that she's a proven fighter and wouldn't let her guard down like that. The scene with Naofumi comforting in the cellar is nice in driving home Naofumi and Raphtalia's 'relationship' but it just doesn't work cause everything that lead upto it was just well incoherent. I'm glad to hear that the LN does not take this route but I'm also saddened to see that the anime chose to do so. Decent episode overall, despite everything I said above. |
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| Wow! On the outside it may not seem like a very emotional episode....but the music added with the story crushed me. I SHED THE MANLIEST SINGLE TEAR BTW. |
| gonna be a meh from me as well was not expecting that to go on as long as it did was hard to care about all these non-existent characters and after seeing the outcome of the noble and finding out it was changed for the worse because before yeah killing is bad but this dude is a piece of shit if this episode wasn't evidence enough of showcasing that so to make Raph use the "you'll live to atone for your sins" without any kind of punishment seems a bit wack like girl i get why you'd want to kill this guy or at least hurt him ,felt very much they just wanted to keep her pure and innocent of any kind of darker acts even changed from her "self-defense" thought of killing someone into nothing because the guy ended up being a live and actually dying to some awful CGI dino |
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| Typical life, bad guys never die... Damn, what an emotional episode, poor Raphtalia :( The music was also on point, what a fantastic yet sad episode. That guy got the best death he deserved. |
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lakelurk said: decent episode but i am sad they changed so much stuff from the LN Really? I only read the manga and I want a confirmation to the change in this episode in the LN |
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| I wish that fat c*nt gets tortured first then died. It's not fair that he got immediately smashed by CGI dino. |
| Man I was thinking how it was pretty lame that they went the cliched route for Raphtalia not killing the dude, but was at least happy he died in the end. Now after finding out what happened in the LN I'm just disappointed. The flashbacks and cellar stuff was alright tho. It's good to see the severe discrimination rather than just be told about it. |
| Holy crap this episode was POWERFUL! I kept hearing I would tear up so I tried hard not to tear up...yeah mission failed. Brilliant episode. Then that ending!!! Oh boy next week is going to be amazing! |
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| I don't know man, i just wasn't that big of a fan of this episode. I can't put it on my finger but it just pained me to finish it. |
rickfurious said: So many changes. It's expected but I didn't expect they'd waste a whole episode on Raph finding her friends. Next episode should be good. I actually like that they did that. The one thing I hated about that part of the manga was that it felt really rushed. I felt the anime did a little better job of establishing Raphtalia’s character. Although, I didn’t particularly like how they changed the scene between Idol and Raphtalia. I felt like the manga did that better. |
Killuan said: mary_zervou said: Daamn.. The feels in this episode. Raphthalia-chan's cry was heartbreaking. Also I have a question. Keel-kun is the same age as Raphtalia, right? When they were kids they seemed like they had the same age. But now Raphtalia looks a lot older than him. Is it because he was malnutritioned and depressed that his growth was delayed, whereas Raphtalia had the chance to eat and train and be happy? That helped her grow faster? Did you forget that Raphtalia only grew older because she leveled up by fighting for Naofumi? Keel is still young because they never leveled up like Raphtalia did. I was just about to say, there was a whole explanation about this in the manga/anime. The reason why demi-humans are mistreated in this society is due to how much they change/grow from leveling up. Since Raphtalia has leveled up to Lv. 40, she’s “grown up” whereas Keel hasn’t leveled up and is still a kid. That’s the whole reason why Keel doesn’t recognize her at first. Slight manga spoilers that really shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone speculating what happens from here... |
| Well what a fucking surprise, we got a ridiculous "Killing him would be wrong / wouldn't help" bullshit in addition to the original "fat, cruel and evil noble" bullshit. I cannot believe I originally liked the manga. |
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| Can't sympathize with raccoon girl at all. 2/5, let this show and manga end man. |
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| They just threw all of Raphtalia's development out the window with Idol being alive at the end. The whole emotional scene, and speech from Naofumi, was rendered pointless. Unnecessarily forced drama. It was stupid of her to blame herself anyway, but then they make her "growth" all pointless anyway. This author has got no clue. |
Albi-kunApr 17, 2019 9:57 PM
| It was a wonderfull episode in some ways! I felt bad for Raphtalia for that hard past, and it was really painfull to watch, the moment when Naofumi cheered her up was really heartwarming and emotional, i am glad Raphtalia found and saved Keel and other from her old village, and R.I.P Rifana, you didn't deserve that! Was really satisfying see that fat disgusting Noble falling from the windows, obvius that bastard was still alive and realeased a beast, i am glad that beast killed him! Looking forward next fight! |
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| The zombie dragon looked cooler than the t-rex. |
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| I liked fat boy getting squished by T-Rex. Lol All in all a good episode. I wish Raph’s buddy had made it. |
| I feel that the emotions here are really forced and cringy though (the previous ones are too, but this one really takes the cake). "If only I was stronger, I could've kept everyone safe..!" I meaaaaan, she was like less than 10 years old (both age wise and physically) so even if she started training the moment she was born, I doubt she can ever be strong enough to fend off the assault on her village anyway. So it feels really unnatural for someone to think that things could have been prevented since there was probably no chance for her to negate that from happening at all. Janethan23 said: The zombie dragon looked cooler than the t-rex. Agree. The zombie dragon looks a lot more threatening and powerful too. But I'm interested to see what kind of power the dinosaur holds that the past heroes had to seal it instead of killing it. |
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| Fucking Naruto man,fucking Naruto, don't go naruto style ! at least in manga raphtalia stabbed the guy with a real sword and they pushed him out of window. i wanna throw up every time i see fucking Narutos absolute forgiveness style! |
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vipergod said: She sliced his belly not stabbed. Also I agree with the absolut forgiveness thing but if they would not have done that some would have reed. Look at tge previous ep comments. And is not a bad compromise. She sliced him with the energy sword not because she wanted to spare him but because she was unabke to get to the physical one.Fucking Naruto man,fucking Naruto, don't go naruto style ! at least in manga raphtalia stabbed the guy with a real sword and they pushed him out of window. i wanna throw up every time i see fucking Narutos absolute forgiveness style! |
| So they tortured the demi-humans for fun? What the hell... I wonder why Raphtalia specifically said she wanted to meet the Shield Hero... Ah yes, the "summon-the-powerful-beast-into-getting-killed-by-said-beast" cliche. Next episode is "Filolial Queen"? Filo gonna evolve next episode? |
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