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Mar 23, 2019 4:17 AM
#1
| After seeing the top-notch quality of every episode in 'Mob Psycho 100 II', from the quality of the animation you'd expect them to have a lot of time on their hands. However, they seem to have been printing out over 3+ quality animation shows every year since 'Full-metal Alchemist Brotherhood' came out in 2009. I then glanced at the track record for a majority of their competitor studios and I believe that Bones has a greater track record than it's competitors, purely based on how well they adapt and animate the individual source material. At this point I have started to wonder if the employees are ok... |
Mar 23, 2019 4:28 AM
#4
| Is this even a question? Cowboy Bebop movie Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Soul Eater One Punch Man Mob Psycho 100 seasons 1 and 2 My Hero Academia seasons 1, 2 and 3 |
Mar 23, 2019 4:28 AM
#5
Mar 23, 2019 4:31 AM
#6
| At least,int this season.maybe.But it's definitely a great studio. |
Mar 23, 2019 4:48 AM
#7
| Madhouse would like to have a word with you. |
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Mar 23, 2019 4:49 AM
#8
| According to my GRAPH statistics, it's currently on 56th place for me personally.. So yeah.. Matters of tastes, maybe, but I don't really like works by this studio myself.. Though, every studio isn't producing only anime that are 10 for me, because every studio tries to produce different stuff.. ;p |
Mar 23, 2019 4:52 AM
#9
MikominMM said: Wrong decade for this to be relevant.Madhouse would like to have a word with you. |
Mar 23, 2019 4:56 AM
#10
| If we're talking about animation alone, then I think that ufotable takes the top spot. Everything that they make usually has great animation, or at least from the things that I've watched. |
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Mar 23, 2019 5:02 AM
#11
| at the point, they're definitely amongst the top (for shounen anyhow). looking forward to bsd s3. |
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Mar 23, 2019 5:05 AM
#12
| In terms of animation they are certainly at the top. |
Mar 23, 2019 5:17 AM
#13
MikominMM said: Madhouse would like to have a word with you. Madhouse is dead now, maybe five years ago this would have worked. |
Mar 23, 2019 5:22 AM
#14
| That's a weird way to spell WIT. Maybe your keyboard is broken? |
Mar 23, 2019 5:23 AM
#15
Mar 23, 2019 5:24 AM
#16
BestBoiEren said: Lol. WIT is a subsidiary of Production I.G.That's a weird way to spell WIT. Maybe your keyboard is broken? |
Mar 23, 2019 5:25 AM
#17
| Well HELL YA!!! Its really doing a great job when it comes to animating either its Mha or mob psycho 100 they r putting full effort in it compare to other studio |
Mar 23, 2019 5:29 AM
#18
phantom346 said: Nah. Madhouse is and always will be Top Studio! They may have been Gods in the past, but they are surely on the decline. |
Mar 23, 2019 5:29 AM
#19
| A really good studio but I think Madhouse and Trigger are better |
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Mar 23, 2019 5:35 AM
#20
| I generally have a strong attachment to shows done by BONES. They are the best when it comes to animation. Shows like Kekkai Sensen, Mob Psycho 100, Space Dandy, and FMAB don't just have good animation, but they also show experimentation which I think puts them one step further than other studios. |
Mar 23, 2019 5:40 AM
#21
Mar 23, 2019 5:59 AM
#22
| Seems like a good studio, way too focused on action stuff to be more of my liking though. |
Mar 23, 2019 6:04 AM
#23
| Well, I've been having them as my top studio for a couple of years now. I don't think it's a particularly recent trend. On the one hand their whole catalogue is just very good, very few weak shows, lots of great ones, and they also happen to mostly do stuff that I'm very interested in with my personal taste. On the other hand they have a track record of providing some of the best sakuga in all of anime at least since the Bebop Movie. From Sword of the Stranger to Mob Psycho they keep one-upping themselves in that regard. In general everything they do, especially recent stuff, just looks really sharp and on-point and they are very good at capturing the right atmosphere for a show, be it the chaotic pulp-fiction-on-steroids Kekkai Sensen or the more mysterious and spiritual Noragami. Their shows often suck you in by just feeling very well-rounded, every aspect of them (music, designs, animation, pacing etc...) being sychnronized very well. Whenever they have a new show coming up I have very high expectations, tho of course not every one of them comes close to becoming one of my favorites. For example I wasn't that much into Hisone, but it was still pretty good at least. Only real disappointment I can think of in recent years was AICO. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Mar 23, 2019 6:06 AM
#24
| I like them too, but personally I prefer Production I.G. They never disappoint me. Kuroko no basket, Haikyu, Usagi Drop, Attack on Titan, etc. And this season Kaze ga Tsuyoku Fuiteiru is wonderful. |
Mar 23, 2019 7:02 AM
#25
| I'd say Science Saru (Devilman Crybaby, Ping Pong, Lu Over the Wall, Walk on Girl and the upcoming Noretara) Something needs to break the mold once in a while |
Mar 23, 2019 8:01 AM
#26
petran79 said: I'd say Science Saru (Devilman Crybaby, Ping Pong, Lu Over the Wall, Walk on Girl and the upcoming Noretara) Something needs to break the mold once in a while I don't know, it's kind of preliminary to me. To name a studio that is basically "Yuasa does stuff" amazing is kind of putting all the merits on one person and one particular style. If the studio grows and isn't just the means of a single author to create his own projects, but manages to build a consistent team of diverse viewpoints, then of course. I think it's promising and I hope Yuasa's influence and artistic vision help create and feed these diverging views. But right now it feels like a one-man army and I don't need a whole studio for that. |
Mar 23, 2019 8:03 AM
#27
Optigisa said: Is this even a question? Cowboy Bebop movie Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Soul Eater One Punch Man Mob Psycho 100 seasons 1 and 2 My Hero Academia seasons 1, 2 and 3 >Implying that Soul Eater adaptation was good |
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Mar 23, 2019 8:07 AM
#28
| P.A. works is the best studio. They never disappoint |
Mar 23, 2019 8:09 AM
#29
| Well Bones is a great studio But for me always A1 Pictures is the best |
Mar 23, 2019 8:11 AM
#30
| Ufotable is a fucking beast on fight scenes/backgrounds/effects but i think their character animation is a little bit on the inconsistent side, sometimes it looks epic, sometimes it looks so rushed. added that the shadings are rather minimalistic. But i find ufotable really really underrated. KyoAni takes the cake for character animation and consistency tho |
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Mar 23, 2019 8:13 AM
#31
Kuro_Neko04 said: Optigisa said: Is this even a question? Cowboy Bebop movie Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Soul Eater One Punch Man Mob Psycho 100 seasons 1 and 2 My Hero Academia seasons 1, 2 and 3 >Implying that Soul Eater adaptation was good Talking about the animation and the visuals only. I do not like FMA (2003) |
Mar 23, 2019 8:16 AM
#32
Optigisa said: Kuro_Neko04 said: Optigisa said: Is this even a question? Cowboy Bebop movie Fullmetal Alchemist and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Soul Eater One Punch Man Mob Psycho 100 seasons 1 and 2 My Hero Academia seasons 1, 2 and 3 >Implying that Soul Eater adaptation was good Talking about the animation and the visuals only. I do not like FMA (2003) Oh ok honestly I don't remember animations and visuals because Soul Eater was literally my first anime and seven years has passed since then. But I just remember the last arc in general was wrong as heck and they ruined the best part of the manga imo lol. |
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Mar 23, 2019 8:18 AM
#33
| For me it's David Pro, they did not much, but pretty much everything I've seen was great. Last in particular with the new Captain Tsubasa, Hataraku Saibou and Golden Wind. I'm already looking forwards to Fire Force this summer. |
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Mar 23, 2019 8:49 AM
#34
| It's #1 in my graph statistic, so yeah it's the greatest |
Mar 23, 2019 8:51 AM
#35
jal90 said: petran79 said: I'd say Science Saru (Devilman Crybaby, Ping Pong, Lu Over the Wall, Walk on Girl and the upcoming Noretara) Something needs to break the mold once in a while I don't know, it's kind of preliminary to me. To name a studio that is basically "Yuasa does stuff" amazing is kind of putting all the merits on one person and one particular style. If the studio grows and isn't just the means of a single author to create his own projects, but manages to build a consistent team of diverse viewpoints, then of course. I think it's promising and I hope Yuasa's influence and artistic vision help create and feed these diverging views. But right now it feels like a one-man army and I don't need a whole studio for that. I noticed there are two animators from Spain over there, a rarity in anime studios nowadays. Abel Gongóra and Juanma Laguna. Latter is one of the architects of the studios Flash animation, having also produced for Cartoon Network (Adventure Time) and Disney Xd.I like the international approach to animation. I think it is the opposite really.They do stuff on their own! His resume reel is impressive, including both anime and cartoons.Sakuga and reels are really mind openers! |
Mar 23, 2019 9:02 AM
#36
petran79 said: jal90 said: petran79 said: I'd say Science Saru (Devilman Crybaby, Ping Pong, Lu Over the Wall, Walk on Girl and the upcoming Noretara) Something needs to break the mold once in a while I don't know, it's kind of preliminary to me. To name a studio that is basically "Yuasa does stuff" amazing is kind of putting all the merits on one person and one particular style. If the studio grows and isn't just the means of a single author to create his own projects, but manages to build a consistent team of diverse viewpoints, then of course. I think it's promising and I hope Yuasa's influence and artistic vision help create and feed these diverging views. But right now it feels like a one-man army and I don't need a whole studio for that. I noticed there are two animators from Spain over there, a rarity in anime studios nowadays. Abel Gongóra and Juanma Laguna. Latter is one of the architects of the studios Flash animation, having also produced for Cartoon Network (Adventure Time) and Disney Xd.I like the international approach to animation. I think it is the opposite really.They do stuff on their own! His resume reel is impressive, including both anime and cartoons.Sakuga and reels are really mind openers! That's very cool of course. But that doesn't make the case better. Both of these animators are people Yuasa has worked with, knows their work, and trusts. It's great that they have an opportunity at the anime industry. And it's great that the studio allows these directorial projects to happen with a team of relied animators from all over the world. The problem is that these are still directorial works that respond to a single artistic sensibility. Science Saru is Yuasa. He founded the studio and decided to use it to create his own projects. And the resume is probably excellent because the guy is amazing and the team of animators he picked is great and varied but the point is that there's nothing more to the studio than this guy's vision. I'd like that in the future we didn't just have Yuasa but a bunch of artistic and authorial views that stem from his creative philosophy and apply it to explore diverging pathways, but so far it hasn't and it doesn't seem to be happening soon. |
Mar 23, 2019 9:03 AM
#37
| to me it’s definitely madhouse ! but bones doing consistent great work |
Mar 23, 2019 9:09 AM
#38
FMmatron said: For me it's David Pro, they did not much, but pretty much everything I've seen was great. Last in particular with the new Captain Tsubasa, Hataraku Saibou and Golden Wind. I'm already looking forwards to Fire Force this summer. isnt golden wind's animation too stiff?? |
Mar 23, 2019 9:12 AM
#39
| while you all are discussion which is the greatest anime studio... shaft masters the art of head tilts...kill em with kind tilts? |
Mar 23, 2019 9:14 AM
#40
Mar 23, 2019 9:17 AM
#41
| Bones might be a great studio an all, but they've been doing a lot of sequels lately. If you look at the last 2 'new' series' they've done they've generally been less well received It also depends on the genre as well. Like no matter what Production I.G will always be the kings of the sports genre |
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Mar 23, 2019 9:20 AM
#42
jal90 said: petran79 said: jal90 said: petran79 said: I'd say Science Saru (Devilman Crybaby, Ping Pong, Lu Over the Wall, Walk on Girl and the upcoming Noretara) Something needs to break the mold once in a while I don't know, it's kind of preliminary to me. To name a studio that is basically "Yuasa does stuff" amazing is kind of putting all the merits on one person and one particular style. If the studio grows and isn't just the means of a single author to create his own projects, but manages to build a consistent team of diverse viewpoints, then of course. I think it's promising and I hope Yuasa's influence and artistic vision help create and feed these diverging views. But right now it feels like a one-man army and I don't need a whole studio for that. I noticed there are two animators from Spain over there, a rarity in anime studios nowadays. Abel Gongóra and Juanma Laguna. Latter is one of the architects of the studios Flash animation, having also produced for Cartoon Network (Adventure Time) and Disney Xd.I like the international approach to animation. I think it is the opposite really.They do stuff on their own! His resume reel is impressive, including both anime and cartoons.Sakuga and reels are really mind openers! That's very cool of course. But that doesn't make the case better. Both of these animators are people Yuasa has worked with, knows their work, and trusts. It's great that they have an opportunity at the anime industry. And it's great that the studio allows these directorial projects to happen with a team of relied animators from all over the world. The problem is that these are still directorial works that respond to a single artistic sensibility. Science Saru is Yuasa. He founded the studio and decided to use it to create his own projects. And the resume is probably excellent because the guy is amazing and the team of animators he picked is great and varied but the point is that there's nothing more to the studio than this guy's vision. I'd like that in the future we didn't just have Yuasa but a bunch of artistic and authorial views that stem from his creative philosophy and apply it to explore diverging pathways, but so far it hasn't and it doesn't seem to be happening soon. But isn't that kinda the way a lot of great stuff in anime works? Ghibli was basically Miyazaki & Takahata doing their projects. You can argue that the Madhouse glory days were just Maruyama producing stuff he liked. I'm sure there's more examples. One person with a vision is likely to create better stuff than a bunch of people without any coherent vision. Plus I don't feel Yuasa is that dominating in his works, he leaves a lot of the storyboarding and directing of individual episodes to other people and he isn't like, idk, Shinbou where everyone of his shows has the same aesthetics. Kaiba, Tatami Galaxy, Devilman and Ping Pong all have pretty distinct visuals from each other so reducing Yuasa works to just one artistic view doesn't feel right. It feels like he's letting the artistic visions of the people around him shine through his works just as much, it's just that they are likely not going to be completely opposite of his, but rather in sync with each other to some degree. But I don't think that means that he's dominating and asserting his vision over everyone else, he just picked people whose artistic visions worked well with his own in the first place. That doesn't mean those animators aren't expressing themselves in his works tho. The fact that he assembled a trustworthy and talented team is also more of an upside compared to the freelancing that most studios partake in. That just makes it more meaningful to take about the studio as one consistent entity, which only gives it more relevance in a discussion like that. Of course I don't really know the inner workings of Science Saru, I just wanted to provide an alternative interpretation of the studio. That being said I'd also say it's too early for Science Saru to be in the debate, simply because it's just much more impressive if you have a catalogue of 20 or 30+ good to great shows than just having a handful. I've seen a bunch of studios impress me early on only to then either stop producing anime soon after or start making a lot of less-than-great shows watering down the quality of their overall catalogue. I don't expect the latter to happen to Science Saru, but it is definitely too early to make any calls. |
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Mar 23, 2019 9:24 AM
#43
| I'm completely biased since Bones is my favorite studio so I'm inclined to say yes.... |
Mar 23, 2019 9:33 AM
#44
Tripl3R said: FMmatron said: For me it's David Pro, they did not much, but pretty much everything I've seen was great. Last in particular with the new Captain Tsubasa, Hataraku Saibou and Golden Wind. I'm already looking forwards to Fire Force this summer. isnt golden wind's animation too stiff?? Nobody said fluid animation would be the prerequisite, OP just pointed out the quality of the animation to reinforce his opinion. Personally, David Pro did just better last year. They gave me 3 awesome shows last year of which 2 are still airing. Also, I really dig their expressive style and how it utilizes minimalistic movements. |
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Mar 23, 2019 9:34 AM
#45
Optigisa said: MikominMM said: Madhouse would like to have a word with you. Madhouse is dead now, maybe five years ago this would have worked. What about A Place Further Than The Universe and Death Parade? These are all quality shows. |
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Mar 23, 2019 9:34 AM
#46
| I mean, @Pullman, I love everything Ghibli and its brand created through Takahata's and Miyazaki's recognizable styles. But I wouldn't consider it a good example for new studios to come. It worked very well for a long while, but its future has been always at risk and the generational passage has always been widely acknowledged as an issue. New talents who started and/or were given an opportunity inside the studio ended up leaving. Miyazaki and Takahata have been great creators bringing amazing work through decades but as head members of Studio Ghibli they were just too prevalent for anybody else to take over and make the studio self-sustained through generations. And yep, my issue with Science Saru is that it's too soon. It's promising, but it's promising for Yuasa's projects so far only. I think it will grow, particularly if he keeps relying on a consistent team of animators and directors. Some may want to take further steps and they will surely be given the chance to. When it happens, the studio will grow. |
Mar 23, 2019 9:37 AM
#47
| Typed my answer prior to reading Pullman and your post.I agree it is too soon but at least it is better than nothing jal90 said: That's very cool of course. But that doesn't make the case better. Both of these animators are people Yuasa has worked with, knows their work, and trusts. It's great that they have an opportunity at the anime industry. And it's great that the studio allows these directorial projects to happen with a team of relied animators from all over the world. The problem is that these are still directorial works that respond to a single artistic sensibility. Science Saru is Yuasa. He founded the studio and decided to use it to create his own projects. And the resume is probably excellent because the guy is amazing and the team of animators he picked is great and varied but the point is that there's nothing more to the studio than this guy's vision. I'd like that in the future we didn't just have Yuasa but a bunch of artistic and authorial views that stem from his creative philosophy and apply it to explore diverging pathways, but so far it hasn't and it doesn't seem to be happening soon. One man vision is not only peculiar to Saru though. Ghibili was marred by it for decades and is still trying to cope with Miyazaki's gradual departure. Saru does much better in this regard. I think his philosophy is similar with his co-animators.I would not say it strictly a one man vision studio. It also feels different to the Yuusa of the previous decade, having improved imo. Fortunatly Yuusa's vision so far is far from one dimensional and offers a lot of variety. He has the international approach perhaps more than any other director currently. This alone gives the studio something different. This reminds me of the unfair reviews the movie Lu over the Wall received, labelled as cheap Flash animation. |
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Mar 23, 2019 9:41 AM
#48
Mar 23, 2019 9:51 AM
#49
| nah, gainax, shaft, and kyoani are easily better choices than bones. Even trigger, as far as ambition goes, is better than bones. While bones does do good animation, i feel like it lacks identity and aesthetic in comparison. All the studios I mentioned have really pronounced styles that really compliment their works, while bones just kinda follows the manga of whatever work they got the rights to. Before bones can even be in the running for best studio, it needs to make more works that really capture its unique style. When i think of gainax, kyoani, shaft, and trigger I can instantly think of an anime they've made that captures their style. So what is the best studio then? In the past it was probably gainax or shaft, but currently I think kyoani makes the best animation |
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