SAO Creator is heavily influenced by Political Correctness in the US that he will make more Strong Female Characters.

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Everyone knows that SAO is the Justin Bieber of anime for being trash but now it just cross the line of trash that the creator is now accepting request from SJWs in the west.

Now let me quote the one from Sankakucomplex (can't add link because NSFW site)

''Sword Art Online creator Reki Kawahara has admitted he is so cucked by the climate of political correctness overseas that he has started to fill his works with empowered queens so as to appease the more cancerous elements of his barbarian fanbase and not be accused of misogynistic wrongthink.

Sitting down alongside Nio Nakatani (artist for manga “Yagate Kimi ni Naru”) and Ai Kayano (Seiyuu for Sayaka in Yagate Kimi ni Naru and Alice for Sword Art Online), Kawahara revealed how badly he fell for the strong independent womyn meme, and that he actually thinks the opinions of his programmers are correct (and maybe also that he spent altogether too much time reading yuri manga)''

Click here to see the interview

I'm sure you won't believe it but it's true
Do you think this will affect the anime/manga/LN industry?
What would you do if this happens?

source : https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-01-21/sword-art-online-author-reki-kawahara-says-female-characters-should-not-be-treated-as-trophies/.142337

zalapeno said:

San-Diego said:
Everyone knows that SAO is the Justin Bieber of anime for being trash but now it just cross the line of trash that the creator is now accepting request from SJWs in the west.

Now let me quote the one from Sankakucomplex (can't add link because NSFW site)

''Sword Art Online creator Reki Kawahara has admitted he is so cucked by the climate of political correctness overseas that he has started to fill his works with empowered queens so as to appease the more cancerous elements of his barbarian fanbase and not be accused of misogynistic wrongthink.

Sitting down alongside Nio Nakatani (artist for manga “Yagate Kimi ni Naru”) and Ai Kayano (Seiyuu for Sayaka in Yagate Kimi ni Naru and Alice for Sword Art Online), Kawahara revealed how badly he fell for the strong independent womyn meme, and that he actually thinks the opinions of his programmers are correct (and maybe also that he spent altogether too much time reading yuri manga)''

Click here to see the interview

I'm sure you won't believe it but it's true
Do you think this will affect the anime/manga/LN industry?
What would you do if this happens?

source : https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-01-21/sword-art-online-author-reki-kawahara-says-female-characters-should-not-be-treated-as-trophies/.142337

i didnt expect this, but if he do that i'll stop reading his novel. Dont get me wrong, i dont hate yuri but that is not suit my taste. And please no more heroine in SAO, we need guy like Eugeo to be Kirito's best buddy, there are already lot of heroine. Also, lot of people like the bromance between kirito and eugeo and thats what makes this alicization good

So what just becouse he wants to increase his females representation and give them more emphasis on their lives and stop using the word heroine and start making the female characters more like a protagonist is ..a bad thing

and wont being down playing the male characters involvement

AND BEFORE PEOPLE START GOING ON THE BANDWAGOON HES TALKING ABOUT PROGRESSIVE (maybe) AND UNITAL RING NOT WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN THE ANIME ATM

Also like 40% of vol 21 is on silica and lesbeth with a few back story's and more development .

While kirto and asuna are doing their own thing

No where does it say he will actually write a Yuri relationship into SAO .

Mattinator95Jan 23, 2019 4:28 AM

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I liked SAO Alicization until now, but now I'm thinking of dropping it. I will wait to see and if it gets SJW enough I'll drop it.

One thing is for sure I will not be watching any other SAO ever again!!!

Jan 23, 2019 5:57 AM

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I liked SAO Alicization until now, but now I'm thinking of dropping it. I will wait to see and if it gets SJW enough I'll drop it.

One thing is for sure I will not be watching any other SAO ever again!!!

The anime currently isn't going to be affected becouse it has already been written for like 2 years now he talking about improving the female characters and give them more representation in the next arc that he's currently writing now . And he didn't say he will put. Yuri in Sao only that he would like to write one . One day

He mentioned how he dislikes how he wrote his female characters in the past and wants to him them some indepence and empthises on there lives so they aren't just trophy s and said he won't be down playing kitro as the main character like most people are probably thinking

Mattinator95Jan 23, 2019 6:25 AM

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i saw this and this is all i have to say

I absolutely

LOVE

what he's doing

BUT

i absolutely

HATE

why he's doing it

Jan 23, 2019 6:51 AM

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I like how people who doesn't like the series to begin with gives a lot of crap about it.

Anyway, the series is about to end anyway. If he give female characters stronger role, I don't see what's could be bad with that.

Do people love Kirito that much?

This is just an excuse for people to reignite their hateboner for the series.

Jan 23, 2019 6:52 AM

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EcchiGodMamsterP said:
i saw this and this is all i have to say

I absolutely

LOVE

what he's doing

BUT

i absolutely

HATE

why he's doing it

Depends what does he mean exactly that he will to some extent use PC . As it could mean something else in Japan

obviously being me, thats the kind of thing i LOVE to see in anime

nothing is sexier to me than female characters in positions generally associated with guys as well as when they get treated like guys

im just hoping like you said, he keeps his wokeness "japanese" and still does things that will trigger westerners

as long as he keeps them the same as the other girls then there should be no issue

Jan 23, 2019 6:52 AM

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i saw this and this is all i have to say

I absolutely

LOVE

what he's doing

BUT

i absolutely

HATE

why he's doing it

Because he got opinions of overseas fans on how he writes is female characters yet when he decides to write them with more representation people still complain .

Also people seem to think Yuri will be in Sao. It was never stated he only showed interest in writing a Yuri relationship one day . That can mean many things

Jan 23, 2019 6:54 AM

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Mattinator95 said:

EcchiGodMamsterP said:
i saw this and this is all i have to say

I absolutely

LOVE

what he's doing

BUT

i absolutely

HATE

why he's doing it

Because he got opinions of overseas fans on how he writes is female characters yet when he decides to write them with more representation people still complain .

Also people seem to think Yuri will be in Sao. It was never stated he only showed interest in writing a Yuri relationship one day . That can mean many things

is there ANYTHING that people in the anime community don't complain about?

Jan 23, 2019 6:58 AM

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Mattinator95 said:

Because he got opinions of overseas fans on how he writes is female characters yet when he decides to write them with more representation people still complain .

Also people seem to think Yuri will be in Sao. It was never stated he only showed interest in writing a Yuri relationship one day . That can mean many things

is there ANYTHING that people in the anime community don't complain about?

True . But i got a feeling the interview is getting misunderstood . Can't tell for sure what he plans to do as he hasn't really started yet . But apprently he foucsed on 2 of the less written girls in the lastest volume .

Jan 23, 2019 6:59 AM

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Mattinator95 said:

EcchiGodMamsterP said:

is there ANYTHING that people in the anime community don't complain about?

True . But i got a feeling the interview is getting misunderstood . Can't tell for sure what he plans to do as he hasn't really started yet . But apprently he foucsed on 2 of the less written girls in the lastest volume .

hey man.. i want more girls to get into the battles, especially bad ones

i just don't want obvious wokeness XD

Jan 23, 2019 7:07 AM

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I liked SAO Alicization until now, but now I'm thinking of dropping it. I will wait to see and if it gets SJW enough I'll drop it.

One thing is for sure I will not be watching any other SAO ever again!!!

EcchiGodMamsterP said:
i saw this and this is all i have to say

I absolutely

LOVE

what he's doing

BUT

i absolutely

HATE

why he's doing it

Author is not Talking about SJW, he don't care about SJW.

What he is referring to when he said "feedback from oversea" is the huge amount of vocal SAO hater that were saying he got created girls to just be throphy for Kirito.

this is exactly what all the haters were complaining about, and he just said he try to not be that way anymore.

the politically correct that he is talking about got nothing to do with SJWs and they are not even liked in japan.

moreover, the reason he talk about writing yuri is because he is in a interview with a yuri writer that he was a fan of. the author of Bloom Into Yui.

also keep in mind SAO was written in 2001 to 2008 until the end of of alicization, so this whole anime we see now is a decade old.
He already write Mother's Rosario which was a story about girls and with Asuna and Yuuki as the MC of it back in 2004 ! so these are his own idea and way of thinking. and not just coz he want to please some SJW lol

his Vol21 which is the only new story he write in main SAO is also very good and he just using all the old cast of females more and not making any special shit like suddenly making them lesbian or adding a new lesbian girl lol

Jan 23, 2019 7:11 AM

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Mattinator95 said:

True . But i got a feeling the interview is getting misunderstood . Can't tell for sure what he plans to do as he hasn't really started yet . But apprently he foucsed on 2 of the less written girls in the lastest volume .

hey man.. i want more girls to get into the battles, especially bad ones

i just don't want obvious wokeness XD

What does woke mean in this context I have seen many use it but for different situation s

Jan 23, 2019 7:18 AM

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Mattinator95 said:

True . But i got a feeling the interview is getting misunderstood . Can't tell for sure what he plans to do as he hasn't really started yet . But apprently he foucsed on 2 of the less written girls in the lastest volume .

hey man.. i want more girls to get into the battles, especially bad ones

i just don't want obvious wokeness XD

what he did in vol21 is for the first time actually showing us some of Silica's PoV ! we got to see her character and detail of her other real life friends aside from the SAO gang and then we got to see her in game with Liz and Yui, solving the problem at hand and going through "danger" all of these is Great and very much needed time for them. and all of these happen while it got nothing to do with kirito.

just like how we got to know more about Klein and his guild in Ordinal Scale Movie, we finally getting some for other girls like Silica.

and while all of these are there, Kirito and the others are not cast aside either and he didn't focus too much on silica to make it boring for ppl who are not fan of that.

but he gave her some much needed independent time, coz lets be real, since she came in a small side story in Aincrad, she was only there to lose her pet ! kirito save her then use her as a bait ! then show a bit of fanservice in anime ( tho there wasn't one in novel ) and afterward she is just there in the background being " one of the kirito rejected fan club girls " and nothing more.

even in OS movie, she was only there for Asuna to try and save her and lost her memories coz she was saving her ! but Reki Kawahara was already doing her some more justice with the her liking to sing part ( even tho i found that cringe lol )

Overall, I'm LOVING what he is doing atm and It's great if he keep it just as he is doing now.
that interview is great but someone who don't know him or the whole context of the interview might misunderstand him.

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Real fans complained about Kirito not being human and that his story needs to be fixed. Not women representation since they are already strong characters themselves.

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Real fans complained about Kirito not being human and that his story needs to be fixed. Not women representation since they are already strong characters themselves.

not really, Kirito already is a human and got a lot of character in the novels, anime adaption is just bad at explaining it or they just outright cut it ! for example look at this summery of a chapter they never animated if u feel like it :
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/9zzvh0/sword_art_online_alicization_episode_8_discussion/eae0l67/

his story as well is great and got very few plot hole, there is rarely any asspull at all and everything got a nice and logical explanation.

but that's all in the novel and not the anime.

Reki Kawahara know his flaws more than anyone else.

his flaws are some female character like Silica were indeed used just like a throphy and for occasional comedy or looking cute. I explained in my post above yours.

his other flaws was his messy story pacing ! Aincrad was skipped for all of it lol although it had it's own reasons. and Alicization also just jump 2 years of academy training completely.

but these are all stuff he write from 2001 to 2008.
so in his new work, Volume 21+ and SAO Progressive he is actively fixing these flaws he have !

in Progressive he is writing about Aincrad floor by floor !
and in Vol21 Unital Ring Arc he is giving all the characters more depth and character.

Jan 23, 2019 7:34 AM

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well good good, this is honestly what i was expecting...

if he just wants more non damsels in distress for the male to save while not getting rid of those that already exist, i have no problem with that

it becomes an issue when something is completely changed just to appease a minority of sensitive whiners, as long as hes not doing that, then it should be fine

as i keep saying, i want more girls like that

Mattinator95 said:

EcchiGodMamsterP said:

hey man.. i want more girls to get into the battles, especially bad ones

i just don't want obvious wokeness XD

What does woke mean in this context I have seen many use it but for different situation s

"getting woke" means catering toward SJW complaints so just imagine how that COULD apply to an anime

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@Pedram

well good good, this is honestly what i was expecting...

if he just wants more non damsels in distress for the male to save while not getting rid of those that already exist, i have no problem with that

it becomes an issue when something is completely changed just to appease a minority of sensitive whiners, as long as hes not doing that, then it should be fine

as i keep saying, i want more girls like that

Mattinator95 said:

What does woke mean in this context I have seen many use it but for different situation s

"getting woke" means catering toward SJW complaints so just imagine how that COULD apply to an anime

XD I'm really out of the loop half the time I swear they keep adding more stuff onto SJW it's hard to keep track on what to like and dislike

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Pedram said:

Botan-Chan45 said:
Real fans complained about Kirito not being human and that his story needs to be fixed. Not women representation since they are already strong characters themselves.

not really, Kirito already is a human and got a lot of character in the novels, anime adaption is just bad at explaining it or they just outright cut it ! for example look at this summery of a chapter they never animated if u feel like it :
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/9zzvh0/sword_art_online_alicization_episode_8_discussion/eae0l67/

his story as well is great and got very few plot hole, there is rarely any asspull at all and everything got a nice and logical explanation.

but that's all in the novel and not the anime.

Reki Kawahara know his flaws more than anyone else.

his flaws are some female character like Silica were indeed used just like a throphy and for occasional comedy or looking cute. I explained in my post above yours.

his other flaws was his messy story pacing ! Aincrad was skipped for all of it lol although it had it's own reasons. and Alicization also just jump 2 years of academy training completely.

but these are all stuff he write from 2001 to 2008.
so in his new work, Volume 21+ and SAO Progressive he is actively fixing these flaws he have !

in Progressive he is writing about Aincrad floor by floor !
and in Vol21 Unital Ring Arc he is giving all the characters more depth and character.

Except his counterpart said that they aren't trophies. Even saying they have a ton of character and are strong.

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Mattinator95 said:

EcchiGodMamsterP said:
@Pedram

well good good, this is honestly what i was expecting...

if he just wants more non damsels in distress for the male to save while not getting rid of those that already exist, i have no problem with that

it becomes an issue when something is completely changed just to appease a minority of sensitive whiners, as long as hes not doing that, then it should be fine

as i keep saying, i want more girls like that

"getting woke" means catering toward SJW complaints so just imagine how that COULD apply to an anime

XD I'm really out of the loop half the time I swear they keep adding more stuff onto SJW it's hard to keep track on what to like and dislike

im constantly keeping updated, so far its seems as though japan is the only country they can't really touch

just imagine the uproar if anime got woke lol

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Pedram said:

not really, Kirito already is a human and got a lot of character in the novels, anime adaption is just bad at explaining it or they just outright cut it ! for example look at this summery of a chapter they never animated if u feel like it :
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/9zzvh0/sword_art_online_alicization_episode_8_discussion/eae0l67/

his story as well is great and got very few plot hole, there is rarely any asspull at all and everything got a nice and logical explanation.

but that's all in the novel and not the anime.

Reki Kawahara know his flaws more than anyone else.

his flaws are some female character like Silica were indeed used just like a throphy and for occasional comedy or looking cute. I explained in my post above yours.

his other flaws was his messy story pacing ! Aincrad was skipped for all of it lol although it had it's own reasons. and Alicization also just jump 2 years of academy training completely.

but these are all stuff he write from 2001 to 2008.
so in his new work, Volume 21+ and SAO Progressive he is actively fixing these flaws he have !

in Progressive he is writing about Aincrad floor by floor !
and in Vol21 Unital Ring Arc he is giving all the characters more depth and character.

Except his counterpart said that they aren't trophies. Even saying they have a ton of character and are strong.

Botan-Chan45 said:

Pedram said:

not really, Kirito already is a human and got a lot of character in the novels, anime adaption is just bad at explaining it or they just outright cut it ! for example look at this summery of a chapter they never animated if u feel like it :
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/9zzvh0/sword_art_online_alicization_episode_8_discussion/eae0l67/

his story as well is great and got very few plot hole, there is rarely any asspull at all and everything got a nice and logical explanation.

but that's all in the novel and not the anime.

Reki Kawahara know his flaws more than anyone else.

his flaws are some female character like Silica were indeed used just like a throphy and for occasional comedy or looking cute. I explained in my post above yours.

his other flaws was his messy story pacing ! Aincrad was skipped for all of it lol although it had it's own reasons. and Alicization also just jump 2 years of academy training completely.

but these are all stuff he write from 2001 to 2008.
so in his new work, Volume 21+ and SAO Progressive he is actively fixing these flaws he have !

in Progressive he is writing about Aincrad floor by floor !
and in Vol21 Unital Ring Arc he is giving all the characters more depth and character.

Except his counterpart said that they aren't trophies. Even saying they have a ton of character and are strong.

You mean the bloom into you author that he's a fan of

Jan 23, 2019 7:51 AM

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Mattinator95 said:

XD I'm really out of the loop half the time I swear they keep adding more stuff onto SJW it's hard to keep track on what to like and dislike

im constantly keeping updated, so far its seems as though japan is the only country they can't really touch

just imagine the uproar if anime got woke lol

Cough NETFLIX cough

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Mattinator95 said:

EcchiGodMamsterP said:

im constantly keeping updated, so far its seems as though japan is the only country they can't really touch

just imagine the uproar if anime got woke lol

Cough NETFLIX cough

Netflix barely has influence. They just buy rights to show it in America which only lasts about a month and then they give it to CR.

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Cough NETFLIX cough

Netflix barely has influence. They just buy rights to show it in America which only lasts about a month and then they give it to CR.

Ah ok see I'm really be out of the loop. Guess this is what happens when you spend most of your time playing video games and watching anime while working morning shifts as well

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Pedram said:

not really, Kirito already is a human and got a lot of character in the novels, anime adaption is just bad at explaining it or they just outright cut it ! for example look at this summery of a chapter they never animated if u feel like it :
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/9zzvh0/sword_art_online_alicization_episode_8_discussion/eae0l67/

his story as well is great and got very few plot hole, there is rarely any asspull at all and everything got a nice and logical explanation.

but that's all in the novel and not the anime.

Reki Kawahara know his flaws more than anyone else.

his flaws are some female character like Silica were indeed used just like a throphy and for occasional comedy or looking cute. I explained in my post above yours.

his other flaws was his messy story pacing ! Aincrad was skipped for all of it lol although it had it's own reasons. and Alicization also just jump 2 years of academy training completely.

but these are all stuff he write from 2001 to 2008.
so in his new work, Volume 21+ and SAO Progressive he is actively fixing these flaws he have !

in Progressive he is writing about Aincrad floor by floor !
and in Vol21 Unital Ring Arc he is giving all the characters more depth and character.

Except his counterpart said that they aren't trophies. Even saying they have a ton of character and are strong.

come on, they are in a interview and 70% of the start of interview Reki Kawahara was praising the other guy's work, do u expect him to say, yeh some of your female characters are bad ? ofc he will praise Reki's work as well.

they both are acting humble here and downgrading their own work while praising the other guy's work lol
specially Reki, coz it's his habit of being very critical of his own work, he write about this way back in Volume 2's afterword back in 2009 as well ! when Silica and liz were only just introduced in vol2 !

SAO indeed got some good female characters like Asuna. but it also got some bad ones like Silica.
The author know it himself,
He also mention this exactly that as he was writing the story he keep on adding more female unconsciously w'o setting a good role for them.
so what he is referring here is not Asuna or Sinon or such who each had their own Arc and their own character development. it's the one like Silica or Liz that are mainly ignored.

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Mattinator95 said:

EcchiGodMamsterP said:

im constantly keeping updated, so far its seems as though japan is the only country they can't really touch

just imagine the uproar if anime got woke lol

Cough NETFLIX cough

LMAO yep, how to take a series and change the main character or w/e else just to not be labeled an "ist"

at least its not the anime industry doing that though, so w/e

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Botan-Chan45 said:

Except his counterpart said that they aren't trophies. Even saying they have a ton of character and are strong.

come on, they are in a interview and 70% of the start of interview Reki Kawahara was praising the other guy's work, do u expect him to say, yeh some of your female characters are bad ? ofc he will praise Reki's work as well.

they both are acting humble here and downgrading their own work while praising the other guy's work lol
specially Reki, coz it's his habit of being very critical of his own work, he write about this way back in Volume 2's afterword back in 2009 as well ! when Silica and liz were only just introduced in vol2 !

SAO indeed got some good female characters like Asuna. but it also got some bad ones like Silica.
The author know it himself,
He also mention this exactly that as he was writing the story he keep on adding more female unconsciously w'o setting a good role for them.
so what he is referring here is not Asuna or Sinon or such who each had their own Arc and their own character development. it's the one like Silica or Liz that are mainly ignored.

Silica isn't even a bad character, same goes with liz. I'm not gonna argue further, and take your word that it's developing a character more.

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Jan 23, 2019 8:03 AM

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Pedram said:

Botan-Chan45 said:

Except his counterpart said that they aren't trophies. Even saying they have a ton of character and are strong.

come on, they are in a interview and 70% of the start of interview Reki Kawahara was praising the other guy's work, do u expect him to say, yeh some of your female characters are bad ? ofc he will praise Reki's work as well.

they both are acting humble here and downgrading their own work while praising the other guy's work lol
specially Reki, coz it's his habit of being very critical of his own work, he write about this way back in Volume 2's afterword back in 2009 as well ! when Silica and liz were only just introduced in vol2 !

SAO indeed got some good female characters like Asuna. but it also got some bad ones like Silica.
The author know it himself,
He also mention this exactly that as he was writing the story he keep on adding more female unconsciously w'o setting a good role for them.
so what he is referring here is not Asuna or Sinon or such who each had their own Arc and their own character development. it's the one like Silica or Liz that are mainly ignored.

He is complementing Her work .

Anyway what's this fuss about progressive and asunas treatment some says she's awesome and some say it's concerning

Jan 23, 2019 8:05 AM

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Botan-Chan45 said:

Pedram said:

come on, they are in a interview and 70% of the start of interview Reki Kawahara was praising the other guy's work, do u expect him to say, yeh some of your female characters are bad ? ofc he will praise Reki's work as well.

they both are acting humble here and downgrading their own work while praising the other guy's work lol
specially Reki, coz it's his habit of being very critical of his own work, he write about this way back in Volume 2's afterword back in 2009 as well ! when Silica and liz were only just introduced in vol2 !

SAO indeed got some good female characters like Asuna. but it also got some bad ones like Silica.
The author know it himself,
He also mention this exactly that as he was writing the story he keep on adding more female unconsciously w'o setting a good role for them.
so what he is referring here is not Asuna or Sinon or such who each had their own Arc and their own character development. it's the one like Silica or Liz that are mainly ignored.

Silica isn't even a bad character, same goes with liz. I'm not gonna argue further, and take your word that it's developing a character more.

They haven't really had that much growth though . After anicrad vol 2 Short storys they are pretty much background characters while the other 3 have had there own arcs and had more development

Jan 23, 2019 8:13 AM

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So Sword Art Online, one of the last stands of conservatism in anime, will change to cater gutmenschen? Unless I see it, I'd abstain to comment until I see actual changes since what people are commenting here that is to correct some errors of the older LNs like Silica.

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Jan 23, 2019 8:14 AM

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Botan-Chan45 said:

Pedram said:

come on, they are in a interview and 70% of the start of interview Reki Kawahara was praising the other guy's work, do u expect him to say, yeh some of your female characters are bad ? ofc he will praise Reki's work as well.

they both are acting humble here and downgrading their own work while praising the other guy's work lol
specially Reki, coz it's his habit of being very critical of his own work, he write about this way back in Volume 2's afterword back in 2009 as well ! when Silica and liz were only just introduced in vol2 !

SAO indeed got some good female characters like Asuna. but it also got some bad ones like Silica.
The author know it himself,
He also mention this exactly that as he was writing the story he keep on adding more female unconsciously w'o setting a good role for them.
so what he is referring here is not Asuna or Sinon or such who each had their own Arc and their own character development. it's the one like Silica or Liz that are mainly ignored.

Silica isn't even a bad character, same goes with liz. I'm not gonna argue further, and take your word that it's developing a character more.

yeh she is not a bad character but she is neglected very badly. we had nothing about her.
I dare say 90% of anime viewer if asked to tell u about her, can only say cute loli or the girl with the dragon pet. there is nothing much more coming into their mind. that mean she is vastly underdeveloped.

and all the time we saw her she was in the background or revolving around kirito or something kirito wanted to do. that's until OS Movie and Vol 21 which came after 2017.

Jan 23, 2019 8:23 AM

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Mattinator95 said:

Pedram said:

come on, they are in a interview and 70% of the start of interview Reki Kawahara was praising the other guy's work, do u expect him to say, yeh some of your female characters are bad ? ofc he will praise Reki's work as well.

they both are acting humble here and downgrading their own work while praising the other guy's work lol
specially Reki, coz it's his habit of being very critical of his own work, he write about this way back in Volume 2's afterword back in 2009 as well ! when Silica and liz were only just introduced in vol2 !

SAO indeed got some good female characters like Asuna. but it also got some bad ones like Silica.
The author know it himself,
He also mention this exactly that as he was writing the story he keep on adding more female unconsciously w'o setting a good role for them.
so what he is referring here is not Asuna or Sinon or such who each had their own Arc and their own character development. it's the one like Silica or Liz that are mainly ignored.

He is complementing Her work .

Anyway what's this fuss about progressive and asunas treatment some says she's awesome and some say it's concerning

Prog has been detailing the first arc and the "treatment" of Asuna is nothing more than feminist whales complaining about fiction

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Jan 23, 2019 8:33 AM

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Botan-Chan45 said:

Mattinator95 said:

Pedram said:

Botan-Chan45 said:

Pedram said:

Botan-Chan45 said:
Real fans complained about Kirito not being human and that his story needs to be fixed. Not women representation since they are already strong characters themselves.

not really, Kirito already is a human and got a lot of character in the novels, anime adaption is just bad at explaining it or they just outright cut it ! for example look at this summery of a chapter they never animated if u feel like it :
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/9zzvh0/sword_art_online_alicization_episode_8_discussion/eae0l67/

his story as well is great and got very few plot hole, there is rarely any asspull at all and everything got a nice and logical explanation.

but that's all in the novel and not the anime.

Reki Kawahara know his flaws more than anyone else.

his flaws are some female character like Silica were indeed used just like a throphy and for occasional comedy or looking cute. I explained in my post above yours.

his other flaws was his messy story pacing ! Aincrad was skipped for all of it lol although it had it's own reasons. and Alicization also just jump 2 years of academy training completely.

but these are all stuff he write from 2001 to 2008.
so in his new work, Volume 21+ and SAO Progressive he is actively fixing these flaws he have !

in Progressive he is writing about Aincrad floor by floor !
and in Vol21 Unital Ring Arc he is giving all the characters more depth and character.

Except his counterpart said that they aren't trophies. Even saying they have a ton of character and are strong.

come on, they are in a interview and 70% of the start of interview Reki Kawahara was praising the other guy's work, do u expect him to say, yeh some of your female characters are bad ? ofc he will praise Reki's work as well.

they both are acting humble here and downgrading their own work while praising the other guy's work lol
specially Reki, coz it's his habit of being very critical of his own work, he write about this way back in Volume 2's afterword back in 2009 as well ! when Silica and liz were only just introduced in vol2 !

SAO indeed got some good female characters like Asuna. but it also got some bad ones like Silica.
The author know it himself,
He also mention this exactly that as he was writing the story he keep on adding more female unconsciously w'o setting a good role for them.
so what he is referring here is not Asuna or Sinon or such who each had their own Arc and their own character development. it's the one like Silica or Liz that are mainly ignored.

He is complementing Her work .

Anyway what's this fuss about progressive and asunas treatment some says she's awesome and some say it's concerning

Prog has been detailing the first arc and the "treatment" of Asuna is nothing more than feminist whales complaining about fiction

what ? O.o
SAO Progressive was started in 2012 because A-1 Asked for story of Kirito and Asuna's first meeting for EP2 of anime.
then it continue coz Japanese fan liked more about Kirito and Asuna and they liked more Asuna story. plus Reki always wanted to write floor by floor and fix his skipping aincrad back in 2001, so he continued.
it got nothing to do with feminism lol let alone in Progressive not only a lot of asuna is focused, many other male characters are also develop and focused. and I love it.

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Jan 23, 2019 8:37 AM

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