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Sep 16, 2018 3:54 PM
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I'll definitely have to read the manga after the anime ends. I need to know what happens after that, it's already hard enough waiting a week every time
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shiro_kai said:
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Can you tell me about this unadapted part in spoiler tags?




Man that's really fucked up. Normally, I'd say it's the mother's fault for not being able to decide for herself and stand up on her own in the first place but I'm sure there are people who are like that so I won't go being narrow-minded.

It would be really nice if we see that adapted to see how normal life gets 180 degrees but maybe the studio understands that it's impossible to fit that on a 12-episode anime. In fact, I kinda get a feeling that they're cutting some parts. For instance, for not adapting a scene where Shouko confronted Satou's mother first to know where Satou actually lives.


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Tennouji said:
shiro_kai said:




Man that's really fucked up. Normally, I'd say it's the mother's fault for not being able to decide for herself and stand up on her own in the first place but I'm sure there are people who are like that so I won't go being narrow-minded.

It would be really nice if we see that adapted to see how normal life gets 180 degrees but maybe the studio understands that it's impossible to fit that on a 12-episode anime. In fact, I kinda get a feeling that they're cutting some parts. For instance, for not adapting a scene where Shouko confronted Satou's mother first to know where Satou actually lives.


They will most certainly go for an original ending, so they will probaly just left what they will really use. =/
Sep 17, 2018 9:51 AM

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I can't bear watching this series anymore

it gets more cringey until latest episode, I had enough

Can't recommend this to others... I don't feel it
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Sep 18, 2018 6:46 AM

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Probably Shio and Satou's relationship is built on a wrong perspective, but they still find it's alright to develop it.

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Sep 18, 2018 8:39 AM

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Swordarc said:
Probably Shio and Satou's relationship is built on a wrong perspective, but they still find it's alright to develop it.


One is a psycho and the other is a traumatized kid with little to no grasp on reality outside 4 walls.

I would say it isn't the healthiest pairing.
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Sep 18, 2018 8:48 AM

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Austro said:
Swordarc said:
Probably Shio and Satou's relationship is built on a wrong perspective, but they still find it's alright to develop it.


One is a psycho and the other is a traumatized kid with little to no grasp on reality outside 4 walls.

I would say it isn't the healthiest pairing.

Yeah, that's just sad and kinda edgy as well, hopefully there'll be someone brake through this situation.

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Sep 18, 2018 9:02 AM

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Swordarc said:
Austro said:


One is a psycho and the other is a traumatized kid with little to no grasp on reality outside 4 walls.

I would say it isn't the healthiest pairing.

Yeah, that's just sad and kinda edgy as well, hopefully there'll be someone brake through this situation.


Satou getting her head bashed in by a baseball bat from Shio's Brother and both brother and sister being administered into a group home and receiving mental treatment is a solid ending imo.


.... but i know it wont happen
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Austro said:
Swordarc said:

Yeah, that's just sad and kinda edgy as well, hopefully there'll be someone brake through this situation.


Satou getting her head bashed in by a baseball bat from Shio's Brother and both brother and sister being administered into a group home and receiving mental treatment is a solid ending imo.


.... but i know it wont happen

Possible ending, but I think HSL as a dark anime, may not be taken into such straightforward ending. We'll see the plot development later on.

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Sep 19, 2018 12:02 AM

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OMG! we are now close as to what happened on the cut scene of episode 1 !!!
5/5


Sep 19, 2018 12:43 AM

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I love this anime <3
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Sep 19, 2018 1:03 AM
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Shio's past has finally been revealed, especially her relationship with her mom.

That Satou and shio moment right there is a crazy one, from "i hate you Satou chan" to "i want to be with you" real quick. Well what i can say is that ALL THE CHARACTERS HERE NEEDED SOME PSYCHIATRIC CHECK UP!!! Lets see which jar wil be broken already
Sep 19, 2018 6:59 AM

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Imma finished with this show, it's enjoyable but just a bit too much really

Maybe I'll follow the manga
Sep 19, 2018 8:49 AM
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This episode was less eventful than the last.

I wonder what was going on in Satou's head as she was face down on the floor.

I would like to think that she was a bit distraught for killing Shouko. That despite claiming otherwise, Shouko's wasn't completely insignificant in her life (merely insignificant next to Shio) and her final words did reach her a tiny bit, enough to to lead to a short internal struggle.. before being snuffed out in the end.

But this being a yandere character well, I guess that she is just concerned with having to abandon the castle. For letting "something dirty" enter their castle.

As for people who noted a change in Shio in this episode, I agree. The girl who didn't know what "friends" were volunteers to be "partner in crime"? But then from the beginning I thought that Shio might have been the real instigator of everything. Like the One Ring. Or maybe a child subconsciously possessed by the devil or somewhat cursed. After all, she is in the middle of all the mess that is happening and people around her seem to be breaking one after another.

While I agree with those who believe that this anime isn't "realistic" I think that much is obvious very early on. I would have been dissapointed too, if I was lead to believe that this anime was meant to be realistic portrayal of love/relationship/madness, but from the get go, I figured that it was just going to be a train wreck because there was every indication to me with nearly every character having serious screw loose.

FWIW, I generally hate full on yandere characters, and yes I do think that Satou deserves to get her head bashed in with a baseball bat (don't think it will happen though, certainly if the manga is still ongoing then she is going to live for much longer, and it isn't unusual for Yandere MC to survive either). But I do like how they unravel what goes on in her twisted head. I guess that I find her character "interesting" (which is a lot more than I can say about, say Yuno). Oh and the fact that Shio may "love" Satou (Stockholm syndrome?) obviously doesn't justify anything.
Sep 19, 2018 2:06 PM

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Somewhat expected, though still good turn of events. I thought Shio will eventually confront Satou about her being roundabout about things all the time.

In a way I kinda want them to succeed in running away, since Shio was clearly abandoned by her mother, and Satou did save her. Even though she did treat Shio in a similar restricting manner as her mother did, that is seemingly going to change now. However I feel that they are going to get a bad ending and Satou will either end up in prison or murdered by Asahi.

The way he was walking with that bat while saying he is going to explain Shio everything about their mother was a bit creepy however. I kinda thought "You are going to explain to her with that bat, eh?", though I know he is probably going to use that on Satou instead. Maybe he broke too by now.

Only thing that does not make me want Satou to succeed is the fact that she did murder several people for her romance, and that is certainly deplorable. Even if painter himself was morally questionable, I don't think he deserved it. And Shouko was just innocent in the whole matter. On top of that, Shio does appears to have forgotten about Asahi, so it's questionable at this point if she would still choose Satou over him if she did remember.

They did clearly had a good relationship, and Asahi seems to genuinely care for her. In fact it seems he would break too if he never finds her, especially with Shouko no longer alive to help him.

Theoretically best way would be to somehow figure out how to make both Satou and Asahi happy with Shio, but after last episode events that ending is pretty much impossible. Therefore I guess whoever wins the duel that's probably going to happen next episode will win Shio. Good old ways I guess, people dueling for their love.







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Sep 19, 2018 6:16 PM

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Only thing that does not make me want Satou to succeed is the fact that she did murder several people for her romance, and that is certainly deplorable. Even if painter himself was morally questionable, I don't think he deserved it. And Shouko was just innocent in the whole matter. On top of that, Shio does appears to have forgotten about Asahi, so it's questionable at this point if she would still choose Satou over him if she did remember.


Painterman didn't deserve it?

Did you miss the part where he tried to strangle Shio?
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Sep 19, 2018 7:24 PM

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I think Shio gon die, maybe even by Satou's hands in an attempt to preserve/protect her happy sugar life.

In any case, when they go outside things are going to go down with Asahi.

Sep 20, 2018 2:23 AM

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Austro said:
MrZawa said:


Only thing that does not make me want Satou to succeed is the fact that she did murder several people for her romance, and that is certainly deplorable. Even if painter himself was morally questionable, I don't think he deserved it. And Shouko was just innocent in the whole matter. On top of that, Shio does appears to have forgotten about Asahi, so it's questionable at this point if she would still choose Satou over him if she did remember.


Painterman didn't deserve it?

Did you miss the part where he tried to strangle Shio?


I did not. But with the information we have, we can conclude it was probably temporary failure on his part. He did deserve to be punished for it, as I said his morals were certainly rotten if he could do that. None the less, I don't think murder is the way to do it. Satou however killed 2 people quite cold-heartedly. Painter was killed while strangling Shio though, so if that was the only murder, I would be willing to say she might be forgiven. However with Shouko she had time and option to decide, and she chose to kill her. As such I consider her worse. She does not necessarily deserve to die either, but she does certainly deserve harsh punishment, and if that is death, it will be one she will bring upon herself by her own actions.







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Sep 20, 2018 7:56 AM

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MrZawa said:
Austro said:


Painterman didn't deserve it?

Did you miss the part where he tried to strangle Shio?


I did not. But with the information we have, we can conclude it was probably temporary failure on his part. He did deserve to be punished for it, as I said his morals were certainly rotten if he could do that. None the less, I don't think murder is the way to do it. Satou however killed 2 people quite cold-heartedly. Painter was killed while strangling Shio though, so if that was the only murder, I would be willing to say she might be forgiven. However with Shouko she had time and option to decide, and she chose to kill her. As such I consider her worse. She does not necessarily deserve to die either, but she does certainly deserve harsh punishment, and if that is death, it will be one she will bring upon herself by her own actions.


I do not shed one tear for Painter Man or the two bullies who literally just walk around jumping people.

Of course, Satou deserves no sympathy after murdering Shouko.

I will only be satisfied if she receives justice.
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Sep 20, 2018 12:28 PM

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Shio was really puzzling this episode, throwing temper tantrums, speaking some philosphical thoughts, acting like a kid, again acting like an adult. That was way too dramatic.

On the other hand Satou`s reaction to the past episode`s ending is pretty great. She got wrecked really hard by the heaviness of killing her "friend".

All in all, I am definitely waiting for a "grande finale".

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They just cut out one of the biggest misfortune/tragic backstories of all time (not really) to save one miserable episode.

I don't really wanted to watch/read it all again, but it does add a lot to understand "how broke" the mother was.


Meh, so they decided to cut out one of the most important backstory because they used way too much time on this retarded Mitsuboshi? Seriously? Give me a break.
Sep 21, 2018 10:30 AM

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this was a really good ep really cute but after looking at the comments and finding out about the back story they cut out wow i couldnt help but go and read it and wow did they cut something huge.. though it does happen when it comes to some series becoming a anime but still

but even so in the end after reading it i cant really feel sorry for the mom as she did it to herself... sure its pretty messed up but still (im sure some of you will understand when you read it..)

all i gotta say is anyone watching this should all go and read the backstory asap cause wow its a must to know just why things turned out the way it did

with that said waiting for the next 2 eps is gonna suck cause i wanna know what happens next won't look at the manga fully till the anime ends but that back story i had to as its really a lot and shouldn't have been skipped but then the anime would have had to been longer than 12 eps also seems like this just might have an anime original end from the looks of the manga is still on going

but we'll see
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"one step at a time"
Sep 21, 2018 10:40 PM

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shiro_kai said:
Tennouji said:


Can you tell me about this unadapted part in spoiler tags?




I hope this doesn't get adapted cause I'll get even more sad (and because I legit spoiled myself if this does get adapted).

It seems like one of the few who actually understand this is SoraSenpai. Yeah this anime gets ridiculous. but it's not too farfetched at times such as Shio loving Satou. I mean why wouldn't she? Satou at this point has shown more love towards Shio than her mother who abandoned her. (Which has something to do with her backstory). We're in the end game now and I hope most strings get wrapped up. It really does look like it'll end with the apartment complex in flames and the building jump.

Episode review though, this was expected after the highly suspenseful and eventful last episode, it needed to cool down again before throwing us into that big finale.
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Poor Taiyou-kun. He got raped again hahaha
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Oct 2, 2018 9:11 PM

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I don't know why, but this was the most disturbing episode for me.
Oct 8, 2018 11:45 AM

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Another surprise! Shio's mom abandoned her, I thought she was dead!!!
Oct 15, 2018 3:24 PM

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Damn this episode was packed with emotions! Really do wonder what the last two episodes will have to offer, but things sure won't be looking too good!
Nov 6, 2018 5:21 PM

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Well, Shio’s mom seems like she gave up custody to me. Satou deserves full rights.
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Dec 29, 2018 2:54 PM

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How could I possibly love this any more than I already do? After watching sooo many forgettable SoL moe anime finally this stands out. Wtf is this score though? Every generic seasonal gets 7,5-8 easily and something extraordinary like this has barely a 7? Lmao MAL, never change

So Satou never actually kidnapped her and Shio was afraid of going outside before they met as well. Satou did really nothing wrong here, well, aside from maybe last ep
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Unpopular opinion. Best episode so far. Not much to say other then I wonder how events will play out here. Don't want to make too many hasty statements.
May 14, 2020 8:09 AM

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...ok, wow. i had stopped watching this series for a good while (got busy with other things). This episode was my first episode back, and it honestly made me feel a torrent of emotions. I was sad, creeped out, angry, shocked, sometimes all at the same time. damn if this series isn't effective.

I honestly can't feel anything but pity for Shio. poor girl was mentally tortured for years. of course she will ignore the horrible crimes satou did, as she was literally the only "adult" who ever took mercy on her. Satou fully deserves to die and i hope she does, but i also hope that by then Shio would be with her brother and not learn about it. Poor girl doesn't deserve any more sadness.

I didn't get why her mother did a 180 and left her though, but it was alluded in the post ending scene that that will be explained, so we will see.
May 14, 2020 8:56 AM

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How could I possibly love this any more than I already do? After watching sooo many forgettable SoL moe anime finally this stands out. Wtf is this score though? Every generic seasonal gets 7,5-8 easily and something extraordinary like this has barely a 7? Lmao MAL, never change


exactly my thoughts. when i looked at this anime's rating i was like "WTF?!". any generic harem anime gets over 7 yet this one isn't even a 7. guess this anime's storytelling flew over the heads of tons of people (like the ones complaining about how shio should have hated satou for that confession when satou was literally the only person who ever loved her, or the ones complaining about her "i hate you" who clearly have no clue that children act like that literally all the time with their temper tantrums (and we don't know how long that door stayed closed, so there is no reason to think it was "just a few seconds" like some claim here). it is unfortunate that the anime's rating got reduced because of its scenes going over the heads of those people though.
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FFTHEWINNER said:
Comander-07 said:
How could I possibly love this any more than I already do? After watching sooo many forgettable SoL moe anime finally this stands out. Wtf is this score though? Every generic seasonal gets 7,5-8 easily and something extraordinary like this has barely a 7? Lmao MAL, never change


exactly my thoughts. when i looked at this anime's rating i was like "WTF?!". any generic harem anime gets over 7 yet this one isn't even a 7. guess this anime's storytelling flew over the heads of tons of people (like the ones complaining about how shio should have hated satou for that confession when satou was literally the only person who ever loved her, or the ones complaining about her "i hate you" who clearly have no clue that children act like that literally all the time with their temper tantrums (and we don't know how long that door stayed closed, so there is no reason to think it was "just a few seconds" like some claim here). it is unfortunate that the anime's rating got reduced because of its scenes going over the heads of those people though.
Wow now its under 7. Just shows how much normies influence scores on MAL. Even on more niche shows like this, though I guess some got tricked into viewing it thinking it was another generic replaceable SOL comedy show and got disappointed it wasnt that. Its not even like this is badly written either.
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Comander-07 said:
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exactly my thoughts. when i looked at this anime's rating i was like "WTF?!". any generic harem anime gets over 7 yet this one isn't even a 7. guess this anime's storytelling flew over the heads of tons of people (like the ones complaining about how shio should have hated satou for that confession when satou was literally the only person who ever loved her, or the ones complaining about her "i hate you" who clearly have no clue that children act like that literally all the time with their temper tantrums (and we don't know how long that door stayed closed, so there is no reason to think it was "just a few seconds" like some claim here). it is unfortunate that the anime's rating got reduced because of its scenes going over the heads of those people though.
Wow now its under 7. Just shows how much normies influence scores on MAL. Even on more niche shows like this, though I guess some got tricked into viewing it thinking it was another generic replaceable SOL comedy show and got disappointed it wasnt that. Its not even like this is badly written either.

Just fully finished the series and i agree with you. Other than a small plothole in the final episode, this anime was truly captivating and told the story damn well. It is unfortunate how underrated (literally) it is.
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FFTHEWINNER said:
Comander-07 said:
Wow now its under 7. Just shows how much normies influence scores on MAL. Even on more niche shows like this, though I guess some got tricked into viewing it thinking it was another generic replaceable SOL comedy show and got disappointed it wasnt that. Its not even like this is badly written either.

Just fully finished the series and i agree with you. Other than a small plothole in the final episode, this anime was truly captivating and told the story damn well. It is unfortunate how underrated (literally) it is.
yeah shows like this here are rated really badly on MAL. But under 7 is just hot garbage. You really cant trust MAL scores anymore.
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great episode and nice transition after the murder, we found out how Shio got separated from her mother and how Satou became so obsessed with her. Now this will turn like a eloping adventure till they will get caught or who knows. I'll def read the manga.
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shiro_kai said:
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Can you tell me about this unadapted part in spoiler tags?




Damn. I might've started taking the show seriously if they'd shown that. Or I might have dropped it because it was really hard to watch.

As it is, the characters are so off the rails that I can't root for any of them and they act so freaking unrealistic that it's funny. There can't be a good ending to this story.
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Damn. I might've started taking the show seriously if they'd shown that. Or I might have dropped it because it was really hard to watch.

As it is, the characters are so off the rails that I can't root for any of them and they act so freaking unrealistic that it's funny. There can't be a good ending to this story.


Definitely heavy. But would probably make it one of the most memorable anime episodes ever. Wish they had the balls. :(
Oct 2, 2020 11:37 PM

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her mom is so fucked.... hope we see how shed doing though
Oct 15, 2020 9:58 PM

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Legally, it's questionable
Morally , it's disgusting
Personally, I like it
Dec 22, 2020 2:05 PM

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This makes me lower the score to a 6. It feels dumb. You're trying to make me feel bad about Satou and then be happy at the end, after Shouko getting killed. Also Satou telling Shio "I killed a person, it's currently in our house, A DEAD HUMAN, I stole, I did all sorts of bad things and Shio is just "yes", "yes", "yes". She's not even 10 years old,(judging by what Asahi said, probably 8 and you're telling her those things like she'll understand them. Also Shio 5 years ago was doing all those things when a 3-5 years old baby cant do shit. Doesnt make that much sense tbh. Same with Shio just straight up yelling something random on the balcony. And also, this was weird cause like, 4 or 5 episodes ago, Shio told Satou that "I dont need my mom, you are better than her" and these 4/5 episode did nothing cause Shio said the same thing at the end "You are not my mother, I love you" or smth like that. The last frame was amazing tho, with Asahi at the end, that makes not drop the score to 6 but Idk.
This comment feels rushed but I gotta watch the last 2 episodes before going to bed.
Alex_TheForestDec 22, 2020 2:15 PM
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones!

Apr 12, 2021 8:37 AM

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Fuck this writing... Just 2 more F'ing episodes left.

What's wrong with Shio's stupid mom? Why didn't she leave her abusive husband?! Why leave Shio in the F'ing street?! What kind of imbeciles inhabit this world?! Was Shoukou the only normal human?!!!

I haven't seen such abominable humans since "Hell girl"!

I thought Satou and Shio relationship would go downhill from now on, but Shio suddenly decides to be her sidekick and even closes eyes on murder. Fucking hell mate!
May 20, 2021 5:45 AM

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Satou really looks like she has nothing left to live after killing Shouko like It's nothing

Finally, past scenes on what really happened to Shio and her mom and her mom was also losing her mind Satou's world just crumbled from hearing Shio hates her and that makes me conscious about what's gonna happen if she breaks

Asahi is going to need a lot of power and effort to take Shio back considering how dangerous this crazy yandere is better to watch out.

Sep 7, 2021 7:55 AM

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it was obvious from the first episode, but Satou is way too dependant on that child. Also now I guess we know why Shio only has bad memories of her mum whilst her brother seemed to have good ones.

Also it just felt very rushed honestly
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Did anyone else get jumpscared when the brother suddenly spoke towards the end jesus christ ;_;

I'm surprised that Satou didn't kill the mother. I guess it makes sense the way she found her but then why did Shio have amnesia? Was it her repressing things I guess?
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I'm really unsure of what to think about this anime now. Every type of love shown thus far has been incredibly toxic or dishonest, but with the current developments, it seems that Shio and Satou may actually manage to develop a healthy relationship, somehow. Of course, that's only because Shio is insanely mature for her age, but even still, it's just so conflicting
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Wow, the backstory is kinda insane but it's interesting to finally know how Satou met Shio. I wonder where it goes from here
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It's makes 0 sense why matsuzaka is not arrested yet. Shio brother is really that naive? Police station exists, hello?!
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