hazarddex said: people are making this political cause its a "tranny" (even though its not), and trying to shove useless lgbtq shit into the show. Botan-Chan45 said: STFU PLS, she/he isnt a fucking tranny. Also to the tard saying it's a pride flag, its missing some shit you idiot. Fucking hate when people try to push a political message into a show that has none. why does it matter if they are trans? doesn't make it political. people write characters for the sake of characters. |
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Botan-Chan45 said: hazarddex said: people are making this political cause its a "tranny" (even though its not), and trying to shove useless lgbtq shit into the show. why does it matter if they are trans? doesn't make it political. people write characters for the sake of characters. really? i don't think anyone really making it political. honestly it feels more like your making this into a political issue. oh god they interpreted it differently. not like this has happened with books, movies, tv shows, anime, etc since the dawn of time! HOW DARE THEY! once again. its not like trans being in anime is even a new thing |
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Botan-Chan45 said: hazarddex said: It's not a tranny tho you idiot. It's just a cross dresser you complete mong.really? i don't think anyone really making it political. honestly it feels more like your making this into a political issue. oh god they interpreted it differently. not like this has happened with books, movies, tv shows, anime, etc since the dawn of time! HOW DARE THEY! once again. its not like trans being in anime is even a new thing You seem to be taking this very personally for a piece of fiction. There backstory left a lot up to interpretation. getting upset over people viewing it differently makes you better then them how exactly? |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
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This Didn't know people like that existed in anime community as well... |
| I stopped thinking about looking for porn of Lily. Of course it had to happen to the loli. At least shota fans have their feminine trap. Call me whatever the hell you want. I don't do male > call himself female = now female. |
sonictoryuiaiNov 30, 2018 5:53 AM
Botan-Chan45 said: hazarddex said: So I can stop seeing idiots debating over a fucking chopping off a fictional penis.But why? how does this hurt you? its a fictional character. they have there interpretations you have yours. no ones calling for your execution are they? Neither side has proof that the other side is wrong. so what do you hope to achive by just being so easily triggered by other peoples interpretation? God damn. Look, there was an account that got tons of interactions yesterday on Twitter with people just swallowing their "facts" by saying that Lily wasn't a trans and the CR subs were spreading misinformation, posing as a Japanese native of all things. This kind of shit that was proved wrong from many fronts including actual Japanese people is not a personal opinion, it is something made in bad faith. Of course there is a debate on the term "trans" when some people and cultures do not even accept that it's a thing, some others would consider genitalia to be an all or nothing and etc. But some people are lying on purpose, are spreading misinformation using as always this "CR is full of SJWs who will ruin anime" thing to appeal to the gut of the more reactionary anime fandom, and are clearly aggressive towards the presence or the idea of a character being trans. Having a trans character that is portrayed in a good or respectful way matters in the industry because it's a form of representation of a social minority that they don't often get in media. That's why a lot of people loved this. Nobody is forcing anybody to be happy with this. Some people are. Let them be. And if you don't believe that this character is a trans, it's your personal interpretation in the end, as long as you are being honest. Some people spotted "trans" as soon as the comments about puberty were made. I got the idea when Lily said "Masao was my old name". Some people didn't even see or interpret it like that. It's normal. And it's also normal that not everybody has the same definition of what being trans is and for instance they don't see a character as a girl if they are confirmed to have a penis. What can I do to convince them? Throw medical and legal concepts they just don't accept or see as valid due to their culture? And with how difficult it is to reconcile opinions that don't even come from the same background, you then get people who are so annoyed and so bitter about some others liking the idea of a trans character that they have to make up an identity and a set of arguments to try to prove them wrong because apparently people being happy for what they consider good rep is a bad thing and should be eradicated from the fandom. Or as you do, throwing your usual "they want to insert politics in my anime!!!" paranoia and then proceeding to spread your word of God because you are angry about people interpreting things one way you don't and liking things in a way you don't accept. Tl;dr you are a fucking idiot and lack self-awareness to a degree that I find very comical. |
jal90Nov 25, 2018 3:32 AM
oryouohagi said: [ I think being a trap is a bigger category, than what being a trans is, or even what a character's chosen gender or sex is for that matter. She's a trap, because her sex is not what the viewer percieved up to the point of the reveal. By the little I know, Lilly CAN'T BE a trap. A trap would be more like a cross-dresser. When busted would say, "yes, I'm a man". This is not what happens with Lilly. Lilly never says on implies, "yes, I'm still Go Masao", on the contrary, Lilly explicitly says "I'm not Go Masao anymore, I'm Lilly". Go Masao was a boy. Lilly is a little girl. That's the thing with trans people and gender, it doesn't match with their biological gender. Botan-Chan45 said: STFU PLS, she/he isnt a fucking tranny. Also to the tard saying it's a pride flag, its missing some shit you idiot. Fucking hate when people try to push a political message into a show that has one. Transgenderism is more a fact of life than political. Here's the thing dude, there's not really a message here, there's no politics. The one pushing politics agendas here is you, with your agenda against trans people, you see? That's why this episode was so brilliant. Like I said it's fact of life, that's way this episode wasn't about a trans girl, it was the tragedy of a father and his lost child. When a story include trans characters, like I said again, it's because it's a fact of life, they're real, it's not necessary to push some sort of message that you may perhaps don't like. The only doing damage here is you, and first on yourself, with all this hate and intolerance in you heart. I pity you. |
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Botan-Chan45 said: Lobinde said: No you dolt, there is no message in this show. Keep your political shit off this show.The message is clear even if the colours aren't in the exact same order. Stay in denial bucko You sound angry because this show doesn't cater to your political tastes. I'd say keep your politics to yourself. :^) |
Botan-Chan45 said: hazarddex said: It's not a tranny tho you idiot. It's just a cross dresser you complete mong.really? i don't think anyone really making it political. honestly it feels more like your making this into a political issue. oh god they interpreted it differently. not like this has happened with books, movies, tv shows, anime, etc since the dawn of time! HOW DARE THEY! once again. its not like trans being in anime is even a new thing Why isn't a crossdresser a political thing then? Men don't usually crossdress. :Thinkingemoji: |
HeroicIdealism said: Thanks for convincing me to never watch this shit. Why is Japan obsessed with guys who look and act like girls? To scare away people like you. |
PaninaManina said: By the little I know, Lilly CAN'T BE a trap. A trap would be more like a cross-dresser. When busted would say, "yes, I'm a man". This is not what happens with Lilly. Lilly never says on implies, "yes, I'm still Go Masao", on the contrary, Lilly explicitly says "I'm not Go Masao anymore, I'm Lilly". Go Masao was a boy. Lilly is a little girl. That's the thing with trans people and gender, it doesn't match with their biological gender. I can respect that Bernrika said: HeroicIdealism said: Thanks for convincing me to never watch this shit. Why is Japan obsessed with guys who look and act like girls? To scare away people like you. At least, only the men of culture remain like this HeroicIdealism said: Thanks for convincing me to never watch this shit. Why is Japan obsessed with guys who look and act like girls? Lily is girl tho, so don't worry about it |
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HeroicIdealism said: Thanks for convincing me to never watch this shit. Why is Japan obsessed with guys who look and act like girls? I have to ask. Does people really don't know that inserting your penis into the anus of your male friend was considered a very masculine thing in great part of the world since immemorial times? Seriously, I'm not joking, I'm sincerely asking. HeroicIdealism said: If I'm prejudiced against effeminate men who are generally obsessed with sexuality and self-victimization, then so be it. People may think about samurai as bastions of masculinity but fail to noticed that homo interactions wasn't ill-seen by them. Until very recently this was the ideal male relationship in Japan, Lilly wouldn't necessarily be seen as "effeminate". The perceptions change with times, all this hate for homos looks very new to me. It's funny seeing the "Greek World" revolted by the moral degeneration of the "Easterns", it's just ironic. |
PaninaManinaNov 25, 2018 6:33 AM
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>I'm not scared >I WON'T TOUCH THIS SHOW WITH A 100 FOOT POLE You sound pretty spooked to me. |
jal90 said: Jal stfu you monkey, go suck your tranny bf off. It's clear to me that i triggered you since you only write 4 paragraphs when mad.Botan-Chan45 said: So I can stop seeing idiots debating over a fucking chopping off a fictional penis. God damn. Look, there was an account that got tons of interactions yesterday on Twitter with people just swallowing their "facts" by saying that Lily wasn't a trans and the CR subs were spreading misinformation, posing as a Japanese native of all things. This kind of shit that was proved wrong from many fronts including actual Japanese people is not a personal opinion, it is something made in bad faith. Of course there is a debate on the term "trans" when some people and cultures do not even accept that it's a thing, some others would consider genitalia to be an all or nothing and etc. But some people are lying on purpose, are spreading misinformation using as always this "CR is full of SJWs who will ruin anime" thing to appeal to the gut of the more reactionary anime fandom, and are clearly aggressive towards the presence or the idea of a character being trans. Having a trans character that is portrayed in a good or respectful way matters in the industry because it's a form of representation of a social minority that they don't often get in media. That's why a lot of people loved this. Nobody is forcing anybody to be happy with this. Some people are. Let them be. And if you don't believe that this character is a trans, it's your personal interpretation in the end, as long as you are being honest. Some people spotted "trans" as soon as the comments about puberty were made. I got the idea when Lily said "Masao was my old name". Some people didn't even see or interpret it like that. It's normal. And it's also normal that not everybody has the same definition of what being trans is and for instance they don't see a character as a girl if they are confirmed to have a penis. What can I do to convince them? Throw medical and legal concepts they just don't accept or see as valid due to their culture? And with how difficult it is to reconcile opinions that don't even come from the same background, you then get people who are so annoyed and so bitter about some others liking the idea of a trans character that they have to make up an identity and a set of arguments to try to prove them wrong because apparently people being happy for what they consider good rep is a bad thing and should be eradicated from the fandom. Or as you do, throwing your usual "they want to insert politics in my anime!!!" paranoia and then proceeding to spread your word of God because you are angry about people interpreting things one way you don't and liking things in a way you don't accept. Tl;dr you are a fucking idiot and lack self-awareness to a degree that I find very comical. |
Botan-Chan45Nov 25, 2018 8:34 AM
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
| @HeroicIdealism I would be the happiest man alive, if half or even greater part of humanity perished, solving all problems at once, although I don't see why having more "nuclear families" producing children help anything in this situation. Not that arguing on the internet would solve anything |
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PaninaManina said: >saying anime is realoryouohagi said: [ I think being a trap is a bigger category, than what being a trans is, or even what a character's chosen gender or sex is for that matter. She's a trap, because her sex is not what the viewer percieved up to the point of the reveal. By the little I know, Lilly CAN'T BE a trap. A trap would be more like a cross-dresser. When busted would say, "yes, I'm a man". This is not what happens with Lilly. Lilly never says on implies, "yes, I'm still Go Masao", on the contrary, Lilly explicitly says "I'm not Go Masao anymore, I'm Lilly". Go Masao was a boy. Lilly is a little girl. That's the thing with trans people and gender, it doesn't match with their biological gender. Botan-Chan45 said: STFU PLS, she/he isnt a fucking tranny. Also to the tard saying it's a pride flag, its missing some shit you idiot. Fucking hate when people try to push a political message into a show that has one. Transgenderism is more a fact of life than political. Here's the thing dude, there's not really a message here, there's no politics. The one pushing politics agendas here is you, with your agenda against trans people, you see? That's why this episode was so brilliant. Like I said it's fact of life, that's way this episode wasn't about a trans girl, it was the tragedy of a father and his lost child. When a story include trans characters, like I said again, it's because it's a fact of life, they're real, it's not necessary to push some sort of message that you may perhaps don't like. The only doing damage here is you, and first on yourself, with all this hate and intolerance in you heart. I pity you. LMFAO this is gold. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
| @HeroicIdealism dont try to argue with them. They spout "finally representation" because they feel attacked for saying they are a trap or "misgendering" them. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
HeroicIdealism said: Good thing you are not in a position of power. If you were, we'd all be dead. I don't want mass genocide - nay, extinction. God, I wish I could do that for real. Not the animals tho, they deserve way better. |
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PaninaManina said: For those still in denial is good to point out that the anime made very clear what it was doing.  Oh no... I liked Lily so much... |
| what is with these bigots who are so obsessed with the sex of a fictional character. It can be a trap or trans or whatever she wants to be, it dosent affect anyone in any way. It seems like these bigots, want all people to be as miserable as themselves. Anyway, This series is more unique now with the addition of a trans character, but it's too early to figure out whether it will go in a good or bad direction |
HeroicIdealism said: oryouohagi said: God, I wish I could do that for real. Not the animals tho, they deserve way better. Animals are not as innocent as environmental misanthropes want to believe. The wild would turn a tame house cat into a ravenous beast, lest he isn't killed. Oh, I thought you were serious, goddammit, bamboozled again. And define innocent. I'm a nihilist apparently (笑) |
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AsukaHellsoldier said: When did i say i hate trans explicitly? God your too dumb for being a 20+yr old dude.HeroicIdealism said: I want a society where people are unified, genuine unity, not divided with diversity. Heterosexuality along with gender roles allows for healthy nuclear families and stable societies. There are many facets to what created a more depressed, divided society, but to keep it short and to stay on topic: the accepting of mental illness as totally healthy (transgenderism), accepting a lifestyle that generally does not lead to stable, long lasting relationships (homosexuality), that lifestyle of which is generally very promiscuous and hedonistic, does not lead to unified, happy, healthy societies. Homosexuality is one of many problems of which are acceptable by modern society. I have an even stronger distaste for heterosexuals who are promiscuous and don't have children when they can and who forgo love in pursuit of lust (sluts, both men and women). These are all degenerate. I want monogamous love and meaningful lives to reign supreme. LGBT's "love wins", however? It might as well be a codeword for "lust wins". I can't be damned to respond to the rest of your post right now. Whenever you feel like replying to the rest, I'll read it. But I must reply to this. A false Unity that supresses the real Diversity. There are already a few names for that: Rwanda (The Rwandan Genocide of 1994), the Holocaust (whose victims include the Jews, the Roma, Handicapped and the LGBT among others), and Myanmar (the Rohingya genocide going on right now). You see, the world is Diverse and always has been. And who gives anyone the right to try to change that? On the grounds of what? Real Unity is obtained when you accept the differences. I have Asperger's Syndrome, and I cannot change that, no matter how much I tried. And I don't have to. Likewise, Gender roles is basically saying that the woman should stay in the kitchen. So, when a little girl dreams of becoming a doctor, should she supress her dream on behalf of a False Utopia? The real specialists, the psychologists, declassified Transgenderism as a mental illness. Assuming it ever were one, the only way for them to be happy would be to live the way they are. But the false Utopia that you propose does not give room to individuality. There are quite stable relationships in homosexuality, and there would be many more if people stopped persecuting them. Try keeping a stable relationship fearing being fired for being gay, or becoming friendless and without a family for being gay. This Is What I mean with ''taking everything for granted''. You can't understand the persecuted. You have things they don't have, and you don't realize it. Nobody is going to kill you for walking out with your girlfriend. They can't say the same. Finally, wheter you agree with them or not: People have the absolute right to control their lives. To decide to have children, and to do what they want with their bodies. It is their body, after all. You may find the choices questionable, but ultimately that does not invalidate anyone's humanity. Also, you'll need an Objective argument for why ''sluts'' are evil. True Unity is Respect. You live your life, with the one you love. I live my life. Would you like your life to be dictated by someone's view of the world? No substance and no maturity in your argument. And for someone who hates ''political commentary'' on your anime, you sure are filled with ''political commentary''. After all, you wouldn't hate an anime where the protagonist hates on a trans girl. You'd applaud it. ''Political Commentary'' means, quite simply, everything you dislike. Spare me your Hypocrisy. Spare Us All from your A-R BS. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
HeroicIdealism said: oryouohagi said: Oh, I thought you were serious, goddammit, bamboozled again. And define innocent. I'm a nihilist apparently (笑) If you're a nihilist, as in, life has no meaning, well... I don't like that philosophy, but it doesn't inherently have much to do with empathy for animals. EDIT: 笑 means Lol according to Google translate. Am I missing your sarcasm or something? No, I meant that innocence is an obscure term defined by society, so it's not definite, thus an animal acting like an animal is at the end of the day just an animal acting like an animal. In other words, nothing is really innocent, if you don't accept the definition. I used that emoji, because it's a kind of an embarrassing thing to say haha |
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HeroicIdealism said: oryouohagi said: @HeroicIdealism I would be the happiest man alive, if half or even greater part of humanity perished, solving all problems at once, although I don't see why having more "nuclear families" producing children help anything in this situation. Not that arguing on the internet would solve anything Good thing you are not in a position of power. If you were, we'd all be dead. I don't want mass genocide - nay, extinction. Favorite person: Hitler. Checks out. |
Right, you also happen to talk like a /pol/ neo nazi as a joke too. |
The best joke of all, gotta say |
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HeroicIdealism said: oryouohagi said: No, I meant that innocence is an obscure term defined by society, so it's not definite, thus an animal acting like an animal is at the end of the day just an animal acting like an animal. In other words, nothing is really innocent, if you don't accept the definition. I used that emoji, because it's a kind of an embarrassing thing to say haha Oh okay, sorry, I just now realized that I misunderstood what you meant when you said "I'm a nihilist apparently". You were responding to me calling you an environmentalist misanthrope. I called you that because you seem to care for animals (though maybe that isn't exclusive to environmentalism, but I don't know a more fancy term for "animal lover" 笑) and you don't seem to like humanity (which is what misanthropy is). Nihilism means to believe that life has no meaning. So maybe you're all three: an environmentalist misanthropic nihilist. 笑 (now you have me using it! :P) Anyhow, that is true, innocence is subjective, most things are, but I would argue that what we define as innocent for humans should also be applied to animals. I wouldn't say that a lion/tiger/whatever who hunts a baby gazelle is "evil" but I wouldn't call it innocent, either. I'm not an existental nihilist, I'm more of a moral nihilist, as innocence is a moral definiton, and I just can't see the point of those. And yeah, you described me quite on point though, I'm not going to deny that I'm a misanthrope either, although I'm quite ashamed to admit that haha. |
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AsukaHellsoldier said: >tells me shit about his knowledgeBotan-Chan45 said: When did i say i hate trans explicitly? God your too dumb for being a 20+yr old dude. You go straight to the insults rather quickly. I aced Philosophy and Geography, and was pretty good at Biology. Sorry to disappoint you on the Dumbness expectations. By your use of trans slut like tranny on this thread, I think we're settled that at least you don't have much regard for them as human beings. >does this on the internet You sir are the embodiment of triggered |
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