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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Sadaharu’s putting himself through a lot for this. For a mascot who kinda didn’t have any real role during the endgame arcs, it’s surprising and satisfying that he’s given such a high importance in the final arc. Damn Hitsugi hurt the dog real bad. The guy has like no importance in the story at all, yet randomly comes to kill the dog :/ That injured Sadaharu really gets me emotionally. But luckily, Gintoki makes it just in time. I love how Gintoki always manages to defeat Hitsugi in the matter of seconds. But Utsuro and the rest of the Yorozuya are here. Seems like Sadaharu’s preventing himself by being consumed by the Altana and is trying to take it down from the inside. Well, as long as he gets that done before the Hinokagutsuchi crashes on Earth. Sadaharu’s the only character that took Utsuro by surprise I bet, lol. Yorozuya’s gonna give their best here right now, especially since they’re the only ones against Utsuro right now. Meanwhile Utsuro’s just saying his typical demeaning words, lol. And it seems like Hitsugi appeared again, only to be taken down in mere seconds… again. Damn, got a stab on Utsuro with the Altana sword. Both eyes too! But that doesn’t mean shit to Utsuro, since he still wrecked the Shinsengumi so easily. Poor Yamazaki too! Even when Kondo got a hit, Utsuro was quick to stab himself to stab Kondo... twice! Geez, Hijikata and Sougo went ham and got rekt in seconds. Everyone is completely annihilated. Shinpachi's the one one up. In the manga, he only got one blow. In the anime, BNP gave him mad love!!! Everyone's turn to beat the shit outta Utsuro now!! 7 chapters adapted. A couple of dialogue aside and unnecessary minor space scenes aside, it was faithful and covered everything worth covering. Artwork was mostly top-tier. Most animation cuts in a single Gintama episode ever. Never seen action get this spread out for a 24 episode. Even Gintoki vs Takasugi was half flashbacks per episode. Previews for next episode look promising too. And this is why last week looked like trash. BNP gave their all today, and probably will continue that next week. The way Utsuro moves is just amazing. I took like 200 random-ass screenshots because the episode hyped the shit out of me, so I'll just send the link to an unorganized upload: https://imgur.com/a/E4A9pXq |
GoldenDevilGamerAug 19, 2018 10:16 AM
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crystalblade13 said: This season will probably cover up to Chapter 677. So that means 21 remaining chapters will get 12 episodes. That's more than enough timeI'm really happy to hear that it delivered! Can't wait to watch it once I get home! Them screenshots look epic as hell, I hope you're right about next week getting a ton of love too. As happy as I am about this episode though, it's really starting to look like BNP is gonna try to adapt the 3rd part of the arc right here and now. I am terrified for the 3rd parts pacing. Please let there be some magical chance that BNP can make it like 16 episodes or something at least. 30 chapters, many with lots of dialogue, in 4 and a half episodes is basically impossible without heavy content cuts. |
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GoldenDevilGamer said: was it actually confirmed though what the episode count is going to be?crystalblade13 said: This season will probably cover up to Chapter 677. So that means 21 remaining chapters will get 12 episodes. That's more than enough timeI'm really happy to hear that it delivered! Can't wait to watch it once I get home! Them screenshots look epic as hell, I hope you're right about next week getting a ton of love too. As happy as I am about this episode though, it's really starting to look like BNP is gonna try to adapt the 3rd part of the arc right here and now. I am terrified for the 3rd parts pacing. Please let there be some magical chance that BNP can make it like 16 episodes or something at least. 30 chapters, many with lots of dialogue, in 4 and a half episodes is basically impossible without heavy content cuts. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Godammit, cannot believe that the Anpan God died so abruptly. RIP Yamazaki. Anyway, the episode was epic as hell and I was in awe for 20 minutes. What an episode! Next week cannot come soon enough. |
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| Hype episode, that was amazing. Seeing Sadharu get hurt like that completely destroyed me, that limping walk, his damaged face and the scene where he pushed Gin-san away was so sad. :( The fight scenes were amazing, like really really good. Utsuro's movements were animated so well. Like Wow. :o I was ginning when everyone made their appearance to fight Utsuro. xD I still kinda think they made Utsuro far too OP in the story, it's kinda like what happened to Aizen from Bleach, I guess he does kinda have the weakness in the Altana crystals but still. Is Yamazaki actually dead? I can't believe they killed him off just like that? :O Next episode is looking even more hype, I can't wait. |
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| This episode was awesome as fuck. Utsuro was absolutely destroying everyone, but it's starting to look like his time might be up soon. I was really hoping Gintoki would use the sword he got from Umibozu for a longer time, too bad it got destroyed so soon. Also, Shinpachi had a pretty badass moment, it was nice to see him stand his ground against someone who, at full strength, could probably take him out instantly. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| oh my gOD WHAT !!! SO MUCH JUST HAPPENED,, ............................. i'm actually speechless. |
Vacu0usAug 19, 2018 1:09 PM
GoldenDevilGamer said: This season will probably cover up to Chapter 677. So that means 21 remaining chapters will get 12 episodes. That's more than enough time The more this season goes on the more I am stressed that they are cramming the whole thing into 13 episodes. Wouldn't there be an announcement for the next episode to be the last one if they were doing part 3? And why would they rush this part so much if they were getting another season? Nah, I think this will be it unfortunately |
Son_nish-kun20 said: Ok so I don't read the manga so I have absolutely no idea and please no body spoil anything but I wanted to know if there is going to be another season or will they wrap everything up in this season with just 12 episodes? Nothing is confirmed by now, everything said here is just a speculation |
| That was a fantastic episode, really intense action where one could feel the despair that comes from Utsuro's power, Shinpachi got a lot of respect from my part after that scene at the end. |
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JizzyHitler said: No confirmation yet.GoldenDevilGamer said: was it actually confirmed though what the episode count is going to be?This season will probably cover up to Chapter 677. So that means 21 remaining chapters will get 12 episodes. That's more than enough time Nobraniarcanin said: Idk man, I loved the fast pace. It creates the tension of an lack of time. Imagine if they ended on the Kondo scene. It would be a hype end, but the next episode, the Shinsengumi would look pathetic again. And Shinpachi got more than enough. Hell, BNP added so extra attacks for him because in the manga, he only did one blow.Damn, that was rushed. Ok, the most important was covered, but some scene w/ Kondo or Shinpachi were cut, and I have the feeling that there is not enough time, like in the manga, to feel the character's feelings. For exemple, in the manga, Kondo stab Utsuro at the end of a chapter, saying more badass things, and you all that Yamazaki part was more painful. The same for Shinpachi, I didn't felt stunned like in the manga. That was the negative part holiday498 said: Considering that the manga is ending at the end of September, it's impossible for BNP to animate the end because Sorachi doesn't tell them anything early beforehand. Plus, they started production for this episode half a year ago, back when everyone thought that Gintama will have a 10 or less chapter long epilogue. Considering how everything is structured, Gintama can't cover the ending in this courGoldenDevilGamer said: This season will probably cover up to Chapter 677. So that means 21 remaining chapters will get 12 episodes. That's more than enough time The more this season goes on the more I am stressed that they are cramming the whole thing into 13 episodes. Wouldn't there be an announcement for the next episode to be the last one if they were doing part 3? And why would they rush this part so much if they were getting another season? Nah, I think this will be it unfortunately |
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| Poor Sadaharu. Please don't attack the dog. :( Still can't believe the weapon Gintoki obtained from Umibouzu just got destroyed from the get-go. But then the Shinsengumi and the Yatos come to save the day! Well, not really. They're all dying, rip. Poor Yamazaki, he just got a glimpse of hope when he saw that Sougo and Hijikita were coming to save him. :/ Hijikata and Sougo make a great duo together, lol, but they still got beaten along with Kondo. Holy shit Utsuro is even faster than during his previous fight with Sougo though. Also, Kamui becomes Kagura's shield. The most hype moment of the episode is probably Shinpachi's scene, he really got the spotlight this time(Kondo also did), I really loved this character more after reading this chapter in the manga. It's also nice to see the yorozuyas fighting together. One thing I really liked this episode is how the artstyle/animation got gradually better, I was disturbed a bit with the CGI mobs but the episode still looks really good, especially when compared to the previous one. Next one will probably be of the same level too. HYPE! |
| It was rushed to hell, but I don't care. That was very intense and I loved it. I have no idea if Yamazaki is dead but I feel like it is? Seeing him die in an anticlimactic way actually fits his character if you know what I mean? BNP had a poor outing last week, and whilst there were hiccups here and there, the action looked much better in this episode. Generally, a really entertaining episode. |
| Oh hi MAL, it's been a while. Personally i really love the intensity of this episode. Yes, the amount of chapters adapted was so absurd, and some OSTs are kinda out of place for me. But overall it's really enjoyable. |
| "The night is in its darkest just before dawn. But keep your eyes open. If you avert your eyes from the dark, you'll be blinded by the rays of a new day. So keep your eyes open, no matter how dark the night ahead may be." - Gintoki Sakata |
GoldenDevilGamer said: Considering that the manga is ending at the end of September, it's impossible for BNP to animate the end because Sorachi doesn't tell them anything early beforehand. Plus, they started production for this episode half a year ago, back when everyone thought that Gintama will have a 10 or less chapter long epilogue. Considering how everything is structured, Gintama can't cover the ending in this cour I wish you were right, I mean I would love a good adaptation of the last part, but it still doesn't make sense why they are rushing so much though these chapters. I mean the whole season feels like a race, not just the early episodes. Sorachi could easily tell them the ending since the manga chapter would be out before the potential episode 13, or they might make an original ending (I hope that won't be the case though). If they make another season, amazing, but I'd rather be prepared for the rushed ending. Like you said, they didn't expect the manga to go on for that long, so maybe they HAVE to do it in this cour for some reason |
GoldenDevilGamer said: i really think its better to prepare for worst case scenario of them rushing through the final chapters than us getting a 2 cour series then, I think best we can hope for at this point is a unusual episode count like 16 episodes or something but it seems far more likely to me they would just end the series the same time as the mangaJizzyHitler said: No confirmation yet.was it actually confirmed though what the episode count is going to be? |
JizzyHitlerAug 19, 2018 3:38 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Jesus, Utsuro is way too op and having the ability to regenerate is reminding me too much at Cell or Buu, lol. And Yamazaki, please survive this. |
FMmatronAug 19, 2018 3:57 PM
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holiday498 said: It makes sense why they're adapting so much. This episode was in production in early 2018. Back then BNP thought that if they end the fight by episode 8, 4 more episodes would be enough to cover the epilogue and end the series. They never knew that Sorachi would extend the epilogue for almost 30 chapters. If that was the case, they would've slowed down a bit. GoldenDevilGamer said: Considering that the manga is ending at the end of September, it's impossible for BNP to animate the end because Sorachi doesn't tell them anything early beforehand. Plus, they started production for this episode half a year ago, back when everyone thought that Gintama will have a 10 or less chapter long epilogue. Considering how everything is structured, Gintama can't cover the ending in this cour I wish you were right, I mean I would love a good adaptation of the last part, but it still doesn't make sense why they are rushing so much though these chapters. I mean the whole season feels like a race, not just the early episodes. Sorachi could easily tell them the ending since the manga chapter would be out before the potential episode 13, or they might make an original ending (I hope that won't be the case though). If they make another season, amazing, but I'd rather be prepared for the rushed ending. Like you said, they didn't expect the manga to go on for that long, so maybe they HAVE to do it in this cour for some reason Also, Sorachi's never in contact with the animation studio, since they've had a conflicting relationship since 2012. Sunrise hated that Sorachi delayed the script for the second Gintama movie, causing them to make Enchousen, and Sorachi hates that he only got a fixed payment for the movie's success and no royalty pay. Ever since then, neither of them talk about each other. |
GoldenDevilGamerAug 19, 2018 4:15 PM
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| I don't know what to say... As an anime only watcher, that was amazing. So many feels and epic moments in one episode. The next episode is hyping me up as much as gintoki va takasugi. Feels good to be on these forums again. |
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GoldenDevilGamer said: I highly doubt no one at jump was in contact with the animation studio for timing when its meant to end, and if thats true then thats not reassuring and more or less just spells out doom that they most likey going to rush the final chapters to get them out in 1 cour cause they probably wouldnt of booked a 8 month timeslot if they really thought it was ending shortly after thisholiday498 said: It makes sense why they're adapting so much. This episode was in production in early 2018. Back then BNP thought that if they end the fight by episode 8, 4 more episodes would be enough to cover the epilogue and end the series. They never knew that Sorachi would extend the epilogue for almost 30 chapters. If that was the case, they would've slowed down a bit. I wish you were right, I mean I would love a good adaptation of the last part, but it still doesn't make sense why they are rushing so much though these chapters. I mean the whole season feels like a race, not just the early episodes. Sorachi could easily tell them the ending since the manga chapter would be out before the potential episode 13, or they might make an original ending (I hope that won't be the case though). If they make another season, amazing, but I'd rather be prepared for the rushed ending. Like you said, they didn't expect the manga to go on for that long, so maybe they HAVE to do it in this cour for some reason Also, Sorachi's never in contact with the animation studio, since they've had a conflicting relationship since 2012. Sunrise hated that Sorachi delayed the script for the second Gintama movie, causing them to make Enchousen, and Sorachi hates that he only got a fixed payment for the movie's success and no royalty pay. Ever since then, neither of them talk about each other. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: Not really. Jump probably wasn't sure about when Gintama was about to end. They can't animate the ending in time. At most, they need 3 months of production time, and with BNP not having the manga content early (like FMA: B did), no matter what, even if they want too, they can't cover the manga's ending, since the manga ends next month. The only issue is whether or not TV Tokyo will give BNP another 3 month time slot.GoldenDevilGamer said: I highly doubt no one at jump was in contact with the animation studio for timing when its meant to end, and if thats true then thats not reassuring and more or less just spells out doom that they most likey going to rush the final chapters to get them out in 1 cour cause they probably wouldnt of booked a 8 month timeslot if they really thought it was ending shortly after thisIt makes sense why they're adapting so much. This episode was in production in early 2018. Back then BNP thought that if they end the fight by episode 8, 4 more episodes would be enough to cover the epilogue and end the series. They never knew that Sorachi would extend the epilogue for almost 30 chapters. If that was the case, they would've slowed down a bit. Also, Sorachi's never in contact with the animation studio, since they've had a conflicting relationship since 2012. Sunrise hated that Sorachi delayed the script for the second Gintama movie, causing them to make Enchousen, and Sorachi hates that he only got a fixed payment for the movie's success and no royalty pay. Ever since then, neither of them talk about each other. |
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GoldenDevilGamer said: I mean we'll see over the course of the next 5 weeks but I'm not buying that at all and I sure as hell know japanese broadcasting times are not something so easily swapped out. I hope your right but highly doubt it and it sounds like if anything your saying is true its spelling doom that the production will be absolutly horrid.JizzyHitler said: Not really. Jump probably wasn't sure about when Gintama was about to end. They can't animate the ending in time. At most, they need 3 months of production time, and with BNP not having the manga content early (like FMA: B did), no matter what, even if they want too, they can't cover the manga's ending, since the manga ends next month. The only issue is whether or not TV Tokyo will give BNP another 3 month time slot.I highly doubt no one at jump was in contact with the animation studio for timing when its meant to end, and if thats true then thats not reassuring and more or less just spells out doom that they most likey going to rush the final chapters to get them out in 1 cour cause they probably wouldnt of booked a 8 month timeslot if they really thought it was ending shortly after this |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: Oh no, when I said another 3 months, I didn't say consecutively. I meant if TV Tokyo would give the series another season sometime in the near future. Otherwise, there's no way the anime can cover the ending, not when this cour will probably end the same week the manga's final chapter is out.GoldenDevilGamer said: I mean we'll see over the course of the next 5 weeks but I'm not buying that at all and I sure as hell know japanese broadcasting times are not something so easily swapped out. I hope your right but highly doubt it and it sounds like if anything your saying is true its spelling doom that the production will be absolutly horrid.Not really. Jump probably wasn't sure about when Gintama was about to end. They can't animate the ending in time. At most, they need 3 months of production time, and with BNP not having the manga content early (like FMA: B did), no matter what, even if they want too, they can't cover the manga's ending, since the manga ends next month. The only issue is whether or not TV Tokyo will give BNP another 3 month time slot. No matter what, they can't cover the end of Gintama's manga within this cour. They need the storyboarding and the script of an anime episode done at least 3-4 months before an episode's broadcast. Assuming episode 12 of this episode was in-production since March, they can only cover a bit of the third part. They probably underestimated the length of the epilogue. |
GoldenDevilGamerAug 19, 2018 8:03 PM
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GoldenDevilGamer said: oh ok if thats what you mean then i can buy it, I feel like they'd probably still try to drag it out to 12 episodes which if they actually plan proper original content for they could likley do well with, if there is another split cour i might just dive into the manga to avoid spoilers and embrace the expected dissapointment of the ships probably not sailing.JizzyHitler said: Oh no, when I said another 3 months, I didn't say consecutively. I meant if TV Tokyo would give the series another season sometime in the near future. Otherwise, there's no way the anime can cover the ending, not when this cour will probably end the same week the manga's final chapter is out.I mean we'll see over the course of the next 5 weeks but I'm not buying that at all and I sure as hell know japanese broadcasting times are not something so easily swapped out. I hope your right but highly doubt it and it sounds like if anything your saying is true its spelling doom that the production will be absolutly horrid. No matter what, they can't cover the end of Gintama's manga within this cour. They need the storyboarding and the script of an anime episode done at least 3-4 months before an episode's broadcast. Assuming episode 12 of this episode was in-production since March, they can only cover a bit of the third part. They probably underestimated the length of the epilogue. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| This episode was a fucking mess. Utsuro has lost all the intimidation he had when he first appeared, the fights are just single-shot pans or scenes that barely last few seconds and end far too quickly. This season is going down the drain fast. |
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| Hype episode. Utsuro is terrifying and ridiculously op. At least they are starting to turn this fight around towards the end. |
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| Sadaharu saved everyone. Damn, I know Utsuro is an immortal monster but he is too much. His immortality is going away! |
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| 7 chapters in a single episode. Wow. I kinda understand people who thinks it feels rushed. All those deaths, and we had like 3 seconds to think about them, unlike in the manga. So, we are in a really weird situation here regarding the ending of the anime. We have a few chapters of this arc, which should be only enough for 1 more episode. So here are the options: 1, The season ends with only 8 episodes, and we get a third (aftermath) season. I highly doubt this option. 8 eps in a season? Nah... 2, 8 episodes of story + we get funny/filler eps. That wouldn't really fit here either imo. 3, Those remaining 4-5 chapters each get an individual episode. That seems impossible after burning through chapters in such a fast pace. 4, The mangaka already told the ending of the manga to the animator staff, and we are also getting the aftermath. This seems the most possible option, although the mangaka wasn't sure about ending the manga, so there's not much time to end the manga. This means the anime and the manga would end kinda simultaniously. 5, we get an original anime-ending? I really wonder what's going to happen in this season, since they burned the chapters so quickly. |
| It is absolutely sad to see one of the greatest anime ever made have such shit animation. It keeps getting worse. Gintama is 10/10 and I'll always love it, but this animation is garbage. I've said it in the thread about last week's episode, but yea.. I wanted Gintama to continue for a long time still and not end, but seeing what is happening... better not drag it out. Animation, pacing etc will only get worse from here, it seems. Love Gintama. This new animation is real shitty though. |
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crystalblade13 said: Says the guy that has given every single Gintama entry a 10 out of 10? Maybe you're a little biased, have you ever considered that?most of the scene looked great this episode, what are you talking about? And how is Utsuro losing his credibility when he literally just solo'd an army of yato, shinsengumi, and like 6 main characters? While blind I might add. You are looking for complaints. The choreography itself was at the higher level of Gintama's usual choreography, I can confirm as a manga reader- where choreography and art are all you get in the fight scenes. No, the only great choreography in this episode was when Toshi and Sougo went against Utsuro, and that only lasted 5 seconds. The rest was either done in a flash or with a single slash which might as well not have been shown because what's the difference? Have you forgotten how amazing Utsuro was when he first appeared? He took on EVERYONE, and the fight wasn't over in just a few seconds or with a single slash, he recked them again and again and they weren't even able to touch him. THAT was amazing. THIS is absolutely horrifying and a waste of a perfectly good fight. |
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MrMik1995 said: Well, it was delayed due to Sorachi, but it wasn't his fault: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-12-22/gintama-2nd-film-slated-for-next-summerGoldenDevilGamer said: It makes sense why they're adapting so much. This episode was in production in early 2018. Back then BNP thought that if they end the fight by episode 8, 4 more episodes would be enough to cover the epilogue and end the series. They never knew that Sorachi would extend the epilogue for almost 30 chapters. If that was the case, they would've slowed down a bit. Also, Sorachi's never in contact with the animation studio, since they've had a conflicting relationship since 2012. Sunrise hated that Sorachi delayed the script for the second Gintama movie, causing them to make Enchousen, and Sorachi hates that he only got a fixed payment for the movie's success and no royalty pay. Ever since then, neither of them talk about each other. I've heard about Sorachi not being paid royalties but what's your source for Sorachi delaying 2nd movie script which led to Enchousen? But Enchousen was never supposed to be a thing. The reason why it got a "final" movie in the first place was because sales had a decline, TV rating dropped drastically, and overall, Gintama wasn't making as much for Bandai Namco as it did before. They probably made Enchousen to keep Gintama relevant before the movie came out. They couldn't afford to have Gintama lose it's popularity before the movie comes out. |
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crystalblade13 said: I honestly doubt that. Especially after you said that you're biased as fuck when it comes to Gintama, and we're talking about Gintama right now.I'll be honest when something looks bad. The shinpachi scene looked just as good as the Sougo and Hijikata scene. And many, many other scenes looked great. Don't take my word for it, go to the website DEDICATED to good animation (sakuga) and see for yourself. https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=gintama Alright, Shinpachi's was also better. Still, almost half of the runtime in most scenes in the sakugabooru that you so proudly linked are just characters talking or doing nothing after they finishing 3 seconds of action. Amazing sakuga indeed.And ya wanna know what makes your claim even funnier? It's the same damn animator who did Utsuro vs everyone in Farewell shinsengumi: youhei sasaki. Ya wanna know what's even funnier? That you think that animators are always 100% consistent in every single one of their projects.Form a choreography and threat standpoint (leaving animation behind), I can't see how you think this episode makes Utsuro look bad, when he was slaughtering hundreds of enemies and tossing around umibozu and kamui like they were nothing. I never said he looked bad, just that I wasn't as impressed/amazed by his fighting capabilities as the first time he appeared. |
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joe_g7 said: crystalblade13 said: Says the guy that has given every single Gintama entry a 10 out of 10? Maybe you're a little biased, have you ever considered that?most of the scene looked great this episode, what are you talking about? And how is Utsuro losing his credibility when he literally just solo'd an army of yato, shinsengumi, and like 6 main characters? While blind I might add. You are looking for complaints. The choreography itself was at the higher level of Gintama's usual choreography, I can confirm as a manga reader- where choreography and art are all you get in the fight scenes. No, the only great choreography in this episode was when Toshi and Sougo went against Utsuro, and that only lasted 5 seconds. The rest was either done in a flash or with a single slash which might as well not have been shown because what's the difference? Have you forgotten how amazing Utsuro was when he first appeared? He took on EVERYONE, and the fight wasn't over in just a few seconds or with a single slash, he recked them again and again and they weren't even able to touch him. THAT was amazing. THIS is absolutely horrifying and a waste of a perfectly good fight. i agree other than toshi and sougo and the little towards the beginning, there wasnt much choreography involved. gintama(2015) had the best animation, cant compare this to Takasugi vs gin. still i would rather have some semblance of animation(like this episode) than having none at all(like all the previous episodes in this season). . |
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Trump_Card said: To be fair though, the Gin vs. Takasugi episodes consisted of more flashback content and talking, then actual action animation. Like, Episode 304, the fight didn't start until midway into the episode, and more than half of that half of the episode was flashbacks. Episode 305's action ended several mins before the end of the episode, and flashbacks was still the majority of the episode. I still agree though, Gintana 2015 was the peak of the series' animation no matter what. But this episode, which is all action minus that 1 minute Shinpachi flashback and a couple of dialogues here and there, did a great job with its production. joe_g7 said: Says the guy that has given every single Gintama entry a 10 out of 10? Maybe you're a little biased, have you ever considered that? No, the only great choreography in this episode was when Toshi and Sougo went against Utsuro, and that only lasted 5 seconds. The rest was either done in a flash or with a single slash which might as well not have been shown because what's the difference? Have you forgotten how amazing Utsuro was when he first appeared? He took on EVERYONE, and the fight wasn't over in just a few seconds or with a single slash, he recked them again and again and they weren't even able to touch him. THAT was amazing. THIS is absolutely horrifying and a waste of a perfectly good fight. i agree other than toshi and sougo and the little towards the beginning, there wasnt much choreography involved. gintama(2015) had the best animation, cant compare this to Takasugi vs gin. still i would rather have some semblance of animation(like this episode) than having none at all(like all the previous episodes in this season). . crystalblade13 said: Agreed. Prior to Gin vs Utsuro, almost all strikes and attacks were still shots. Not to mention, Utsuro's action in FS only is around 4 mins in total. As supposed to this episode, where it's almost an entire episode. But that Gintoki vs. Utsuro part in that episode was near perfect.It's true that he may not have had AS much time to make every scene this episode look as good as gin and Utsuro's 30 second clash in farewell shinsengumi, but it's kinda hard to when he's animating many, many more scenes here than he did in that episode. I once again encourage you to go back and watch that episode. It wasn't pure Sakuga, it had slow moments and still shots as well. |
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