lack of LGBTQ Anime fans and animes :/ RANT WARNING

Andigo said:


I think the fact you keep running into people who cant see the difference goes to show that the difference really isn't all that big. I respect your opinion and should at least respect others especially when the two quite clearly for most people go hand in hand.

The fact you see them as completely separate blows my mind as much I'm sure the fact I don't blows your mind. Chill, wanna be friends ?

Noirgyum said:
Heterosexual transexual (HSTS) here.

Why do you need LGBT anime?
it's like those people complaining of a movie having a 100% white cast or things like that, lmao.

Isterio said:
Here´s some truth, everyone who doesn´t want to accept reality, close your eyes.
Judging by the most positive outlook for LGBT people, only 10% of the world population consists of them.

This includes every bi-curious guy that tries some weird things in college and every girl that french kissed one of her female friends as well as everyone in the closet. Because statistically speaking, most of humanity consists of prudes.

If you apply those statistics to societies with acces to Anime that makes around 300 million people. Out of those around 3million are actually interested in Anime and only 300000 are intersted in LGBT content for the sake of it, thinly spinkled throughout over 100 million squarekilometers. Have fun finding an audience with those numbers.

That´s why LGBT content isn´t consumed by nearly anyone, but curious thirsty straight people, who bitch on the internet when their "specific" tastes aren´t met.

Noirgyum said:
Heterosexual transexual (HSTS) here.

Why do you need LGBT anime?
it's like those people complaining of a movie having a 100% white cast or things like that, lmao.

Andigo said:


I like the factual spunk man. Let me just quote you.

Energetic-Nova said:


As someone with Evangelion also in your favorites, I guess I got to ask:

What makes Evangelion stand out to you?

Because it sure as shit ain't the robo fights.

When I see FLCL, Eva, Gurren Laggan, and Ghost in the Shell, you really make me think you like femdoms and sub males.

But IRL, there are not that many femdoms.

MechaKnightDarek said:

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Bluekirby2 said:
Honestly why not have more gay couples in anime, nobody is harmed except for hets who think gay is bad. I think there's not enough gay male couples because most anime fans are cishet males who think of anything gay as "not masculine enough" because most cishet males are probably really insecure about their masculinity and see BL and yaoi as an attack on that which is probably why most of the gay couples in anime are lesbians. Most gay male couples in anime are either ambiguous or rapey, fucking Yuri on Ice can be interpreted as a coach-student relationship and for once I'd like to see a BL anime thats about two guys in a relationship with no ambiguity that doesn't look rapey and if you got any recommendations that follow that criteria please tell me.

There's no reason for there NOT to more gay (or LGBTQ if you wanna be as broad as possible) media in general, if your reasoning is that the gay population is less than 5% of the population how reliable are those numbers really? Ever considered some people don't want to come out because of how homosexuality is considered bad? By normalizing LGBTQ themes in anime (or media in general) you're normalizing the idea of it and by normalizing it less people are gonna be afraid to be themselves, less people will bully others for being different, etc. But I guess since it threatens the status quo then its bad :(

I could go on about this and I'd like to go on about this, but I'm wasting my time typing this. But I'm glad I know there are people here who aren't hets.

MechaKnightDarek said:
What? Since when?

Probably did. No he did not thogh I await him doing so indirectly. I already have my ideas oh what his reply will be, if there will be any.

Andigo said:


Woah, getting personal are we.

Evangelion for its analysis of human psychology, depression, self consciousness, and the importance of a mothers love. I mean you could go on all day about the depths of that show. The robo fights are also top of the line haha.

FLCL for its deep coming of age wackiness and amazing art style.

Gurren Lagann is just a perfectly written story, with the importance bro love, and why you shouldn't be ashamed to be a man, to create or standout or be dominate. In a modern world where men are becoming docile and confused.

Ghost in the shell again for its questions about humanity and what it means to be human on a subconsious level and even a physical one. The respect between comrades. Also Motoko Is my damn fav character of all time.

If you mean strong, smart, sexy woman then yeah they tend to be my favorite characters.

Energetic-Nova said:



I like really feminine, cute, short guys. Not many guys are 4’10-5’1. Not even in anime. Yet somehow, Shinji, who is shorter than Yugi, really gets to my interests.

It isn’t like there are many mentally ill people in the world either. And I really don’t like how a lot of anime portray mental illness.

Motoko btw has been on my wall as long as Misa Amane. Clearly I have some opposing taste even within myself. I tend to like my men as feminine as Misa, and my women as smart as Ami from Sailor Moon.

Andigo said:


I like my men manly ( No homo ) and my woman many different ways. But if they can fight, smart and handle a gun that a bonus.

Energetic-Nova said:



I like really feminine, cute, short guys. Not many guys are 4’10-5’1. Not even in anime. Yet somehow, Shinji, who is shorter than Yugi, really gets to my interests.

It isn’t like there are many mentally ill people in the world either. And I really don’t like how a lot of anime portray mental illness.

Motoko btw has been on my wall as long as Misa Amane. Clearly I have some opposing taste even within myself. I tend to like my men as feminine as Misa, and my women as smart as Ami from Sailor Moon.


Neon Genesis Evangelion, has feminine men and masculine women.


Generally people‘s refusal to admit certain characters are gay or bisexual really makes me just want them to be king nautically day or bisexual so I don’t have to point to a mountain of evidence which suggests that they are when it is subtotal. I just find people who go around saying oh no no no and go Kaworu isnt Gay be is just Shinji’s close buddy

MechaKnightDarek said:
Not that, could not give enough of a shit about it.

I mean since when is Gurren Lagann about any of these?

Andigo said:


I despise shinji tho, too much whining, even tho I can sympathize with him I guess. Which females are masculine? I don't see bad ass as necessarily masculine. If you mean Misato, I think she is fairly feminine. Asuka is a cunt tho... Still badass.

Energetic-Nova said:



Misato is VERY masculine. She doesn’t cook. She doesn’t clean. She sleeps around. Not an innocent virgin type which is a ideal in Japan. She drinks a lot of beer. She eats nothing but instant food. She lives in a pigsty. She doesn’t dress nicely except when expected to. She has a masculine job. And she tells Shinji really awful things like “you are a boy aren’t you?“ And tells him how much he needs to shut up and be a man. She is very aggressive.


Also Shinji had to clean even her mess and cook for her. It is like Shinji was her wife. Only had to go out and save the world after that. Misato may not be a direct cunt to Shinji but she is a really bad mom if that was what you were looking for. She has zero desire for domestic stuff in the same way Shinji is uncomfortable with being a soldier. Shinji was possibly better off alone. XD

Andigo said:


Hmm good point, I still see her as feminine tho lol. Like I said I like alot of different things in my female characters.

Energetic-Nova said:
but can you even imagine having a roommate like Misato where as much as you think she is fun to be around... is a complete slob and leaves their beer cans and chip bags everywhere?

I love her, I really do, but I would not want to live with her. Kaji cleans and is a much better choice.

Andigo said:


Yeah he is more level headed sure. Id probably rather be his roommate in that sense. But I'm sure Misato could be more tidy if reasoned with. She lives alone.. My room right now is a mess but if I shared space with someone it wouldn't be the same.

Energetic-Nova said:


Yeah. But I bet you wouldn’t do the dick move of making your roomie clean your mess....

There are just not that many anime characters that I could probably stand living with.

greymood said:
@AstZero @Ekaen Of course you "don't need to be represented", most of the stuff is heteronormative thus representing you already o_O

Andigo said:


No I wouldn't, but Shinji is a kid and living there for free. I see it as chores :P

And that's probably because the coolest ones are the most free spirited ones.

Energetic-Nova said:


Shinji is not living there for free. He is putting his life on the line every single day. Misato sure as fuck isn’t in the direct line of fire. Sure she has sympathy for him but she also tells him to be more of a man.
And Shinji does the job better than both of the girls even though he doesn’t want to.

AdolChri said:

Well, of course you wouldn't know, you are always represented lol. You probably have problems imaginings world in which you don't exist.

Energetic-Nova said:


Considering the only thing I know Serbia for... >.> I don't blame you for not wanting to be represented.

AstZero said:


Lol, i don't see myself writing anything about wanting or not wanting to be represented as I've already stated that i literally don't have enough fucks in my life to give about that.

As for the serbia thing idk what you're talking about, if you could be more specific.

Btw i'm straight so yeah just for the record.

Energetic-Nova said:


Because people get super pissed off when you make straight characters gay or trans. xD

Andigo said:


I guess in anime logic, 1 doesn't get paid to protect the world, so has no means of affording a roof over his head. She still took him in even if it was more for the worlds benefit. Also the only reason she says those mean things to him is because he complains and is uncertain and for her its her attempts to strengthen him the only way she knows how. He is after all the only kid who can sync with the eva properly (Unfortunate for him anime logic # 2).

I don't know if we are hung up on Misato because I mentioned mothers love when describing Evangelion. Sure she probably wouldn't make a good mother but I also wasn't referring to her when I said the importance of a mothers love. I was referring to Shinji and the 2 other kids ties to their mothers and the reasons for why they are all fucked up due to lack of that love, just to put simply.

Oh and yeah Kaworu is totally gay, sure. Who debates that?

Noirgyum said:


True, i would get pissed off too if there is not a purpose for that character, i'm gonna use videogames to make an example.
Erika from catherine being trans?
totally ok and serves a purpose. (the nightmares)

Tracer from overwatch being forcedly lesbians?
not okay, so.. your point is?

Energetic-Nova said:
go over to either the wiki or EvaGeeks forum for hilarity. People seriously bend over backwards trying to explain how Kaworu isn’t gay. No he cannot possibly know what love is. How because he is an angel it means he isn’t gay as that is a Lillian concept. And even go so far as to say that loving Kaworu back isn’t gay because he isn’t human. Cool changes into beastiality and that is way worse. But yeah these people are seriously more comfortable with the idea of potential beastiality than gayness.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t tell people I love them while I’m naked unless I’m into them. And I certainly don’t hold hands with ladies I don’t know in the bath. Or even at a pool. And I don’t even look out of the corner of my eye to get other ladies unless I think they’re hot and I’m trying to sneak a peek in the shower. And I would never tell somebody I was totally boring to meet them while in bed with them unless well I totally feel like I’m in love with them. And I wouldn’t except it with just a blush on my face either if somebody said that to me without any sort of denial. Shinji is always quick to defend himself against the liking of Asuka(she is a bitch, I would be embarrassed that my body wouldn’t agree with my brain too!) . He says no thanks to sexual favors from Misato and a joke date with Kaji.

They even argue over the translation of the Manga.... (and the beach scene with Misato for the anime) where Shinji explicitly says He was attracted to him. And how he didn’t want to like a boy like that and he didn’t want anymore friends. And even though in the Manga Kaworu very directly pursues Shinji like he don’t know what “get the fuck away from me” means, People st people still deny Kaworu’s obvious obsessive love for Shinji.

There is a reason why my signature is what it is.

What you’ll find is, there are a lot of people, who will say unless they explicitly state I am bisexual or I am gay, they aren’t no matter what they do, even if they kiss. Everything short of being literal gay sex on your screen, will become a debate if they even are. Hopefully you can understand my frustrated feelings when people like myself are told they just have yaoi goggles on as if I am delusional.

Seiya said:


But, according to your list, you've only seen one Anime.

Why don't you have more Anime added to your list?

zrdb said:


Trust me-I've seen hundreds of series but I'm just too lazy to list them all.

Andigo said:


Well I can see both sides of it I guess. In a human understanding of sexuality, gay is anyone who boinks a member of the same sex. In a non human way or as being that transcends us physically and mentally would you consider his actions gay or queer in anyway? or just what is to him? What does he have below the waistline, i dunno? Does his kind have a need for reproduction? Is it all pleasure to him, does he just love something he sees in Shinji that we cant see or is beyond our understanding? I honestly dont even remember what Kaworu’s is.
But I know when I think of his character and a few scenes my gaydar goes off.

Ahh I get the NoHomo thing now lol. I was just saying it jokingly to express no gay feelings to how I prefer my male characters in anime.

Energetic-Nova said:


I mean like I get it, but they use it to say it isn't gay. lol Like nothing homoerotic happened. Like nothing that could be seen as gay. Clearly just best friendos.



It is still gay. Anime Kaworu seems like he knows more about what he is doing though than manga Kaworu who I guess is a little more akin to how Asuka loves Kaji...

Obsessive love freaks me out. XD So I guess I enjoy it like you enjoy something like fatal attraction. Just because the person is not in the right state of mind doesn't mean they don't feel... and it certainly doesn't negate sexuality of it all.

I don't care if it is healthy or not. Just care if it is interesting.

Andigo said:


I always forget all the fine details of the show until I watch it again or read something like that, just reading that overwhelmed me a little bit. Makes me want to watch it again. Yeah Id agree hes pretty gay from my perspective, I mean the vibes I get when he does what he does. I guess in the end it cant matter much really just perspective. He isn't human but he looks like a guy. The scenes make me cringe tbh. But that's just me.

I prefer my romances straight, I just think men and woman are distinctly different, physically and mentally (Not due to social condition, despite what a few confused people might think) and because we are different the union between the two is more beautiful also the potential for interesting is more prevalent. These differences should be respected.

Energetic-Nova said:


I donno though, when you get two people like my husband and I together, people just think we are twins. XD It is like shipping Rei with Kaworu I guess.

Some people do it, but I wouldn't.

Having things in common though does prove to be the most effective way to have a long lasting relationship. Like if two people aren't on the same page about kids, have different religions.... some people think pets are life, and other people think pets are dirty and they would never have one by choice. And more couples divorce over sex drive than you would think....

The more on the same wave length you are, the better it is... my first girlfriend did pot and smoked cigarettes and I didn't really like it that much and I wasn't too hurt when we broke up either, even though I liked her a lot... yeah. And Alice doesn't smoke, is an atheist, likes the animals I like, and the only thing we really fight about is cleanliness.

Me, I like to throw out everything unnecessary. My husband likes to keep everything in fear of needing it later (we never need it later). I definitely don't think our fights are "fun" or make life interesting. My sister, when I describe stuff she did to me, sure, better story, but Husband and I are much more peaceful.

Andigo said:


Yeah but all those things are preference, personality, hobbies, habits.. etc. Stuff like that in common could prove beneficial, no doubt. May also cause fights, naturally for 2 self conscious beings sub consciously fighting for acknowledgement from the other... Unless your some kind of saint.

I'm talking instinctual, emotional, dare I say natural. More ingrained defining traits of men and woman. Are what need to be respected and cherished. Not to say you cant be overly feminine as a man or overly masculine as a woman. Im also sure most people dont care or will stop you either way... Of course they are entitled to their opinion, and can find it repulsive or annoying and there would be no problem with that either. I just don't find it appealing. Even just the architecture of the pinnacle male body and that of a female body represents and relates to those defined traits. And I think that's cool.

DepravedMagi said:
Thats because you're a fujoshi and fujoshis think hetero ships are inherently boring and inferior.

Energetic-Nova said:


Wow you have no idea about the biggest meme to come out of your country?

NEWBORN PORN!

Shicchi said:


I never said het ships are inferior

Since they are everywhere and is the "normal" one, I just thought rarer couples are more insteresting. Taboo stuff is interesting imo because you hardly find it in real life so you can only explore in fiction freely. It's something new and fresh that you won't find everyday.

AstZero said:


Oh you're talking about the shitstew that is the so called "Serbian film".
While in reality i don't consider it apart of Serbia's teathrical pieces more so as a bad joke especially when the only thing it has in common with Serbia is the name and some Serbian actors that were pretty much blackmailed to act in it.

I don't really consider my country being known for a retarded film like that.

We're really known as a sports nation if anything.

Energetic-Nova said:



I was never considered to have a particularly feminine body... people compared me to a 12 year old boy until I was 23.... Despite being kinda tall for a girl, I was mistaken more than a few times for a grade schooler.... Some people in high school said dating me would be like dating a young boy....


It is probably because I was so underweight and I didn’t have boobs... or hips... size 1 at 5’8... I am size 6 now at 27 but yeah... it took having a particularly bad health year...

People say I look more boyish than my husband... we probably complement each other’s more middling energy. My husband definitely reads emotions better than me. I am often so lost in my own head... thinking about stuff...

I mean, people mistake my husband for a girl a lot like I said... and when I met him, he said he was “99% gay”. And yeah he had been more with guys... but I have a “thing” for that sort of thing... my friends in high school did think I had best gaydar. If I was attracted to anyone, they were probably gay...


The stars just aligned with him. Girlfriend and I broke up, my cat had just died and I was feeling sad... and there was this pretty guy with bright green eyes like my cat... and a tinker bell scarf. People in the group called him “kitten”. One kitty died bring home a new pet cause I can’t stand being alone... lol Rebounding is good. Helps you not be sad.


But still... my body-type is certainly not ideal at all... nor is my husband’s. I am 5 pounds underweight and he is 15-20 under. Ex-girlfriend had more skills I didn’t than my husband and is, to this day, stronger than him. 6 ft tall nice hourglass figure and has no idea how pretty she was. Just really wish she didn’t smoke. Smoking is gross.

I guess I only know a little about what you speak of but... as much as I admire a more typical form, it is just not something possible for me. But maybe if it was the 70’s I would be considered more attractive lol.

Energetic-Nova said:


It really doesn't change that it is the only thing I know about Serbia. XD

So, if that is the only thing I know, is one really bad, smut, joke, I mean, it is really hard to say if I know really anything about your country at all right? Or it's people.

It would be like I guess judging the USA based on "The Room" or something. XD

Andigo said:


Everyone has a different standard for beauty anyways and different preference, The eye of the beholder and all that. Usually that preference leans more towards the pinnacle body however.

Its funny you say that. My longest lasting on and off girlfriend was only 4'11".

She had your standard child bearing female curves and b breasts, but because she was short she looked stocky in anything not skin tight, but had no fat or flab what so ever (except maybe on her tush hehe (‿ˠ‿) ＠_＠;) and also wasn't skinny but fit. If she wore baggy clothes and a hat she would look like a boy. She is also slightly tomboyish and shes has been jokingly called a boy her whole life.

Hell first time we met we were both wasted on a beach, She bet she could carry me to our cabins on her back down a rough unfinished 2km road, Barefoot no less. I said nah way you crazy. She pulled it off with ease. Im 5'11" and at the time 160 lbs pure muscle and bone :P She was a tough stubborn 1. Like me.

Then my last girlfriend she was like 5'4" so not too tall but she was skinnier with less curves, still had hints of them naturally, she was more girly, and kind as all hell.

Then the 1 before that my god didn't last long but shit, Bombshell +_+, she walked in a room doods noses exploded. Perfect hips, slim, further end of C Cup Spectrum and about and inch taller then me. This chick was out of Highschool DXD or something. She was a cunt tho, self absorbed, narcisistic. I dont talk to her anymore.

Suffice to say, I found all my girlfriends wildly attractive physically and personally, minus the cunt ofc.

DepravedMagi said:

According to your logic, incest and pedophlic relationships are okay.
Thsts not interedting, thats disgusting.

DepravedMagi said:

That's a disgusting fetish you have.
I hope you don't have siblings, thats an act of depravity.
As someone with siblings, that shit makes me feel grossed out.